Matt Farah and Joe Rogan Go Deep on Porsches

You used to say that you liked your portion to go to the comedy store because it like juiced you up. Yeah. You still feel like that? Yeah, I like something loud. Something that's just stupid. Yeah. You got to get in the zone. Yeah, but it just gives you like a little bit of a, just like a kickstart. Yeah. You don't even have to drive fast. It's not about that. It's about what it can do. It's like you're taking it out for this like, it just moves better. It moves around corners better. It grips the road better. It feels more, more mechanical. My 911 is kind of like that, but it's actually got the elements of like a Baja truck also. So you could just fucking smash speed bumps and like, you know, those weird transitions into driveways here that everybody hates in sports cars. You got to take them on an angle and all that. Yeah. Boom. Straight in on the power. Just kind of bounce it a little bit. You could drive off of curbs and shit. It is so fun. It's all those things you love about your car, but also the things you want in like a trophy truck. Jesus Christ. It rules. Wow. So great. You should be a salesman. I am. No, I don't get kickbacks, but you should, everybody should buy an off-road Porsche. It's fucking great. That's hilarious. Yeah. Of all the recommendations. A lot of people out there. Good consumer advice. So just stay in school and get your shit together. Jordan Peterson says to clean your room. Dude, you don't want to come for me for good consumer advice. Get a safari Porsche. Probably gonna buy some stupid shit. I only have stupid cars. I love the fact that you dump so much money into that Mustang. Because I'm like, that's the no disrespect to anybody. That's okay. That's true. What I feel is the second ugliest version. It was kind of unique at the time. Yeah. It wasn't ugly at the time. You and Rutledge spent mad time talking shit about my Mustang. It's just an odd choice. Because you are connoisseur on bottom of deals, right? In my mind, why wouldn't he get a 68 Mustang? I don't have a connection to those cars. I was born in 81. So to me, the Mustangs of my youth were... That was my car. Larry Chen shot that photo. That does look pretty dope. Oh, the car was beautiful, man. That was a beautiful car. I did dump a lot of money into it. But I got on the cover of Car Craft Magazine. I had a feature in Speed Hunters. I got all my money back out of it even after I gave half the money to charity. So I got out of it pretty good. It's fantastic. And you deserve very pay with any of it. It drove really nice too. Look at the suspension, like the way it sits, rather. The fat wide tires. Got the right stance. Those are awesome wheels too. What are those wheels? The wheels are HRE RS 105s, which is a really popular wheel for the Ford GT they use. So that's probably the cheapest car they've ever been on. Can I get a side? Is there a side picture of that? The wheels retail for like 12K. They're really expensive. Really? Oh, so pretty. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure if Joe Rogan wanted a deal, we could probably get something worked out with HRE. But that car was so cool. But after it was done, like that picture you just saw is it done, basically. And once it was done, I was like, oh, fuck man. You know, this thing handles so good and it looks so cool. It could really use like 300 more horsepower. Like it was like, it was like 300 horsepower, 350 horsepower, and it really needed to be like 600. And so I was at the point where I either was going to spend two more years and 20 more thousand dollars and maybe I'd be happy with what I got at the end or it was just time to move on. And about the same time I drove Lee Keen is the name of the dude who built my Porsche and he builds and sells those. Mine is number 14 of the cars he builds. I drove his for a video and I just was so in love with it. And I just said, oh, this is exactly the thing that I need in my life right now. And so when I sold the Mustang, I gave the money to Lee Keen and got a lifted 911. That's a good consumer advice. I love the fact that you took that as your daily driver. Yeah. That's what I love. In combination with the scooter and the test cars I have. But that's hilarious. Yeah. Your number one squeeze is this Safari 911 from 1987. I didn't spend all that money to look at it. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Right. If I spent all that money, it has no collector value, right? It's just the value is what I get out of driving it. Isn't it shocking when you open one of those old Porsches, the heft to it, the surprising heft? The solidness of it. Yes. Yes. I mean those galvanized Porsche bodies from the 60s to the mid 90s are some of the finest built vehicles in terms of quality and engineering. Now they're expensive to maintain. They can be annoying. But as far as pure quality of engineering, there's nothing better. It's probably the finest car in the world from a quality perspective through most of its life. Yeah. The 964 is a really unusual one for me because that year was like they still kept the frog eyes. Yeah. But the suspension became more lively, a little bit more controllable, but yet it still maintained a lot of the old feel. Yeah. At the time, those cars, if you go back to 92 when those cars came out in 91 and you read sort of the contemporary reviews of the car, they were calling it old, slow, and heavy. They said it was a solid feeling car, but the Corvette ZR1 was way faster and lighter, you know what I mean? Yeah. And the Ferrari, let's see, well, the 348 was a piece of shit, but what the fuck else? 92. Some of the Japanese stuff, the Supra, the 300CX twin turbo, these were modern cars with turbo chargers and all this new, cool shit. And here was this sort of, well, this 911 is really still sort of the same since the 60s, you know? And so that kind of dragged on, but to revisit those cars now, the fact that they were unchanged from the 60s to the mid 90s is a positive. It's an endearing quality. It's such a, they developed that body and chassis so thoroughly over those 30 years that it's such a finely engineered thing that you can take it and build something like a singer out of it. A singer 911, it is as like, I remember their regular car, right, is as fast around Laguna Seca as a Ferrari 458 with no traction control and manually shifting. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they've done wonders with those chassis and they've really lightened them with carbon bodies and so it is possible to take that chassis further. It just would have cost Porsche. Porsche lost so much money in the 90s, dude. Porsche was really hanging on by a thread and they were losing money like crazy until Volkswagen Avenue Group came in and that's where you ended up with the water cooled cars, the Boxster and then the Cayenne. But in the 90s, when they were doing the 993s, they were losing a crazy amount of money on those cars. Really? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's a weird car, right? It's like they stuck with that crazy design for so long. Yeah, it feels old. It feels like 25 years older than it really is and yet it is so finely made. Yeah. So interesting. Right, so it was strange combination. As opposed to something like... That's a crazy one. That's a 993 GT Carrera RS. That's delightful. That's beautiful. Yeah, it's very nice. That's a beautiful car. So, you know, if you look at the passenger compartment, the roof line, the windshield, the side windows of those cars, you know, that's basically unchanged from the 70s to the late 90s. It's such a pretty shape. It's just like some shape that people just gravitate towards. And it's a... Particularly the really old ones. Yeah. There's something about an old one when you see him in person. Like if you see a really nicely done like 71 long nose. Yeah. There's something about them you're like, wow. They're so light. You know, they're kind of airy about them. I think, you know, of all the classic cars, they are the most usable, you know, to just run around the city and drive. You can drive a car from the 70s. You know, Magnus fucking drives that car. Oh, you know, he drives the cars from the 70s. Like no problem. You could do that. Dude, Magnus had this car that he sold to some rock and roll star in England. He had this silver with blue stripes and it was like a 69 or something like that. I think I remember that car, yeah. Oh my God. That car was a magic thing. He's got cool taste. So there's a video of him like driving it, going around this corner. You know, he had that video that they made about him. Yeah. It's like a little short documentary. Urban Outlaw documentary. That's it. That's it. And he comes around in this old school silver portion. You look at it like, that's a whole different thing he's doing than everybody else. And he's not even driving fast. Like you don't even have to drive fast in that thing. It weighs, what is it weigh? I mean, 2,500 pounds maybe. It's so light. Maybe. And it doesn't have a lot of power either. No. Well, one of the things I love about my car is with the lift on it and the tires, you've got like less grip than a normal 911. So if nobody's around, like I can slide entrance ramps. Like I can be a silly bastard in that car. And it's just extra fun. Look at this. Oh yeah. That is the silver car with the blue. Yeah. That's an excellent car. Even when you hear the engine, it doesn't sound like anything else. It's a weird little mechanical creature. Yeah. Because of a small displacement, that's probably a 2 or a 2.0 or a 2.2, you know? It's not like this big bore 3.8 like you've got. You know, I've got a 3.2, which is a bit more of a bassy kind of tone. Yeah. The older engines have a higher pitch. It's like really, those ones are so small. The 60s ones are little. God damn. But they're still pretty big inside. Like it's the same size inside as your car. Like you could get in it and drive it. Like even those 356s, the really old Porsches in the 50s, like those are actually kind of roomy. Like when you put that engine in the back, yeah, your feet can go pretty far forward. Oh, right. That makes sense. Yeah. And the Germans are pretty big people too. Porsche specifically is about tall people fitting. Yeah, they got barbarian DNA, man. Right? And the CEO of Porsche for a very long time was 6'4", and so he demanded. That's why Panamera looks like it does, so that a 6'4 person can fit in the back. That's exactly that reason. Oh, wow. Yeah. What'd they do with the back seat of the 911? So those are ridiculous. Well, those are for kids or whatever. Little kids too. Yeah, I think that's an insurance thing. I think by being a four seater, you might be able to... Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. I just don't have rear seats now. I don't think you could have a friend get in the back of your 911 for a couple of blocks. Yeah, yeah. It's possible. But it's more like you just throw your duffel bag back there or whatever. It's just too tight. It's too tight. But the ones you buy don't have rear seats, so what do you care? You buy the RSs, they don't have the rear seats. If I drive one of those cars, especially the older ones, like the 964 or something, I'd like the most stripped down ones. That's what I like the most. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want a radio. I don't want... I like a radio. I don't want air conditioning, nothing. I use my car every day and so I have a radio and air conditioning, but yeah, I know what you mean. But a car like that is like a little ride. It's like you're taking a ride more than it is like you're driving. Totally. No, driving is the thing. That's what you're doing. You're driving. Yeah. That's my Lamborghini I treat like that. I don't take that to do bullshit when I go out and drive that car. That is my activity. Yeah. Like Magnus, he's experiencing what a normal person experiences when they're enjoying the pleasure of driving, but he's getting way more analog, way more super light car. It's all ancient fucking technology. Those light cars are real easy to drive though. When you've got a little engine, you can have a light clutch, you can have a light shifter. You don't need... The more power you've got, the heavier duty everything needs to be. So when you dial that stuff back and the car's 2000 pounds and the engine's only 200 horsepower, you can just fingertip the whole thing. It's very easy. Yeah. My friend Todd said this to me. It was a very wise thing. He said it doesn't matter how fast you're going, it just matter how fast it feels. Totally. He was talking about like old 911. A thousand percent. A thousand percent. It's a wise perspective because you go, oh yeah, if you're just enjoying the car, you're supposed to get maximum enjoyment. It doesn't have to be attached to a number. Correct. If you didn't know how fast you're going, you weren't looking at your car other than for the purposes of safety. It wasn't a dick contest. There'd be a certain level you wouldn't want to drive at. I agree. Even knowing the speeds. For me personally, my cars have fairly low, low power. They're not crazy huge power cars. I think beyond a certain point, I just can't use it anymore. I think there's an argument for having something like a Tesla for every day and then having an engaging machine for the weekends.