Joe Rogan: I Think You Can Definitely Be Healthy and Be a Vegan

The J.Rogan experience. I don't have the discipline to sit in class and listen. I was too spastic. I wasn't interested in what they were teaching. It's so crazy that you can't sit in class and listen and yet you can do the double-header three-hour podcast. That's not hard. We're talking about cool shit. You're a cool guy. You're fun to talk to. It's not hard. It's the way the material is delivered, huh? And the last one was, you know, what you'll see, but it's way more these two guys talking than me. Oh. I was just fascinated and mostly wound up agreeing with the guy who made the Game Changers documentary, mostly with what he was saying in terms of science, in terms of whether or not it's healthy to eat 100% vegan diet. According to everything he's showing me, it is. It is? Yeah. According to everything he was showing me, and he had as much science as you could... Yeah. You know, it's just a matter of doing it properly. Absolutely. So I'm a Kevin Smith on your show. I've considered trying to do like a vegan month or a vegan week or something. I haven't gone through with it yet, but I'm probably going to... I think it's different for different people too. I really do. I think some people have real issues with it. Some people have gotten off the vegan diet and they've quit. And they were like, I just feel like a couple of vegans. I just feel like a couple of vegans. Really? Well, I mean, it's really... I think it's different for everybody too, man. I think some people can do it with no problems. And I think other people struggle more. And I don't know why. I'm not a nutritionist, but I know that a lot of people that wind up trying it out eventually give up. It's like 84% of people who are ex-vegans. I know a couple of ex-vegans. Yeah. But I don't have like a moral judgment for it or anything. I just feel like maybe it's something worth trying because I eat a lot of meat. Yeah. And I'm trying to get... I wrote a business plan for my new place, as you do when you have a new business. And the first thing on the business plan is by my 40th birthday, I want to be the healthiest I've ever been. Well, I don't think cutting meat out is the move. See, this is what I think about all this. I think you could definitely be healthy and be a vegan. According to everything this guy was showing me, everything James Wilkes was showing me. I don't really want to be a vegan. I like meat. I have no moral qualms with it and I like how it tastes. I don't want to be a vegan, but I thought maybe if I did it a little bit, I can at least... Health-wise, it's... It makes a difference? No, I think the real thing to do is omnivorous diets. And I think this is one of the things that we proved today in this conversation between Chris Kresser and James Wilkes is that the omnivorous diet is like a natural, healthy thing. You can do a vegan diet though. You can do it right. According to everything he was showing me today, and I believe this too, if you're just doing it correctly, if you monitor your nutrient levels, you take vitamin B12 supplements, which is something he advocates. I was like, that makes sense to me. But I don't believe it means bad for you. I think that sedentary lifestyle, shitty foods, people have been eating meat since the beginning of time. This is how we became people, and literally one of the primary theories for why the human brain got so big so quick. We started eating meat. We started hunting. We had more access to protein because we were cooking things with fire and we learned how to hunt better because her brains kept growing as we're just figuring out the throwing arm they think was a possible factor, like somehow or another, the ability to throw something at something and kill it, like made us much more productive as hunters. We can kill from farther away. That's key. Bro, we're so weak. All compared to animals? Yes. An animal would fuck us up. Any, even a smallish animal would fuck us up so bad. A deer will kick your fucking ass, man. A deer just kicking at you? Oh my God. Yeah. I get it. We need some help. We need some weapons for that. I wonder what we were like though. Imagine going back and seeing what a person was like when we started becoming people. How fucking freaky would that be? I feel like we'd be scared of everything. Oh my God. Just real scared. But like, what would it be like to just hang out in a tribe of Neanderthals and see what they were like with a different kind of person? Yeah. I wonder if it would be, I mean, like mentally freeing? You know what I mean? We're singularly focused on food and shelter and not, you know, I don't know if you have the, you know, you don't have a lot of like the fucking worries that we have, but it could be awful simple. But at the same time, the constant fear of starving and freezing to death, that would be shit. All of it's bad. Everything's bad. We're going to get there, dude. Don't worry. We're going to get there, dude. We're going to end up in Waterworld pretty fucking soon. Oh, dude. Don't say it. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there.