The Complicated Truth About Mountain Lion Encroachment

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Matt Farah

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Matt Farah is a car enthusiast and the host of “The Smoking Tire” seen on YouTube and also a podcast available on Spotify.

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I flashed this up, you didn't... I don't... This was taken in Northridge a week ago. What is that? It's a mountain lion on someone's roof. Oh, fucking hell! Dude, fuck that. Apparently there's two of them. What? In Northridge? Two on the roof at the same time? Yeah. Oh my god, that's so crazy. Hide your kids, hide your wife. Yeah. Well, they're looking for dogs and cats. One of the things they found out when they killed them in San Francisco in the Bay Area, they have real problems up there sometimes. Yeah. Especially some of those homes that like... They're like... Sort of like... Like we have Malibu with the mountain lions live real... Yeah. Close proximity with the people. So they do these stomach examinations. They find it's like half dogs and cats. Well, the cat that I said that could open doors and shit, he wanted nothing more than to kill one of my other cats. He was a Russian blue. Had three legs. And he was really, really smart. We adopted him and we tried for like six months to make it work. We tried everything. Everything you could think of to make it work. You brought a criminal into your home. Exactly. And I didn't know. And we had to... We rehomed him with my brother-in-law and his wife. And he like got along with the dog and was having the best time and chill. But he thought he fucking ran shit. He thought he owned the neighborhood and he ended up getting eaten by a mountain lion. Yeah. Yeah. Three legs versus a mountain lion. Good luck, kid. R.I.P. Morgan. Smartest, fastest three legged animal you've ever seen. But fucking... Yeah, and mountain lion won. Maybe he's a little cocky for his own good. A thousand percent. He thought he ran shit. That's hilarious. Imagine the moment when you realize that that's a giant you... You know, you think you're this bad motherfucker because you could jack most animals. And then you realize, oh my god, this is 140 pound of me. Yeah. Fuck this. It was never seen again. Bro, we're so weird that we let those things just wander around us. We're so weird. I always think it's really strange that I live with another species in my house. I think about that very often. I mean, mountain lions. Oh, yeah. As opposed to what? Exterminating them. Fucking holocausting them. Killing them. All of them. Genocide. I don't advocate that. I don't think the vegans... Don't get me wrong. Would advocate that. I don't think we should kill them. All I'm saying is it's really interesting that we have this thing that we sort of agree. Rarely. Rarely kills people. But it does sometimes. And we want to keep it around. Sounds an awful lot like the sharks, bro. And we also have to acknowledge that they're running out of shit to eat. You know? It's not like we're gonna have... Are they? Yeah. That a thing. Listen, man. When was the last time you saw a deer? I mean, fairly recently, but not often. Not here. It's pretty rare. Yeah. Even if you live where deer are. Like I used to, growing up in the suburbs of New York, I used to see deer like daily. Do you think deer are on the pill? No. What do you think is going on? I've lived in a city and I haven't paid attention to the deer in the suburbs. I'll tell you what's happened, man. Cats. Oh. They moved in and started jacking deer and coyotes. They moved in and started jacking deer. Cats are fucking up deer? Big cats. Oh, mountain lions are right. Sorry. Bobcats are fucking up deer. Oh. Everybody's fucking up the fawns. Everybody's fucking up the babies. Yeah, yeah. So when the babies are born, they have zero chance. These big fucking big wild dogs. It's a coyote. Is that everywhere or just outside of LA? Mostly around us. If you go to like Iowa, they have too many deer. Like you'll be driving. So why are we hunting deer and not mountain lion? Well, you can't hunt mountain lion in California. They don't have a- Is there a predatory cat that you can't- That you should hunt? I mean, I don't know. You can give- See, the thing is like the people think that you need to control their population. Right. This is where the argument is- It gets real interesting because it branches off between people that are very much animal advocates, animal rights first. They want animals to rule and to be able to have their own freedom on their land. Yeah. And to just whatever happens happens. Like mountain lions killing deer and all that kind of stuff and let it all take place. And we should interfere with that and we shouldn't hunt. There's people that really think like that. And they have their arguments and they have their reasons. But the reality of animals is if you have large predators and the large predators runs out of things to eat, it's either going to go further and enter into new areas looking for food and it might get hit by cars or it's going to branch out and expand. It's going to expand its range. And in expanding its range, it's going to find a farm or it's going to find a dog in the backyard. It's going to find something because it's just trying to get food. And like how many of those are we willing to have around us? I'm not saying that we should kill mountain lions. I think it's wonderful that they live- Are they endangered? No, not really. So why can't we kill them? They hunt them in other parts of the country. Why can't you kill them? Oh, okay. Well, California doesn't- You're protected. Yeah, well, the only time California kills them really is when they get what's called a Depredation Order. Like if someone has something happen, like if you run a farm and a mountain lion starts killing your livestock, which does happen. A lady in Malibu a few years back had a, I think it was an alpaca farm and this fucking mountain lion killed like a ton of them. It was just killing them. They seem easy to kill though. I think it killed a goat too. I think it was just getting a kick out of killing things. It was just fun. But they said it wasn't even eating them, which was really nuts. That's strange. I think he couldn't get it out. It's probably a really big animal and he couldn't get it out. He probably didn't feel comfortable enough to eat it while he's in there. So he's probably really confused. Did he kill them all at once? Oh shit. Well, I think it was over a couple of days, but it was kind of a killing spree. See if we'll pull up Malibu. It's sociopathic. It's kind of like that man. Because like, who's just killed for fun? First of all, when you think about Malibu, do you really think about an alpaca farm? No. Well, no, I think of that as a Topanga. Right, right, right.