#2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco

Hello Sebastian. How are you Joe? My first time here at the Austin property. Yes. And first of all, most comfortable chair I've ever said. They're great, right? I feel like when I come here, or when I come through this podcast, this is my third time on it, I feel like I'm in the future. All right. I feel like you got things that aren't even out yet, right? I just feel like this chair, the general public can't even have access to that. No, but they do, we've had these for years. Well, whatever they are. These are great. They're beautiful. Then I feel like I've never drank water out of a... Metal cup? Yeah, and I feel sustainable here. I feel like there's a reason for everything that you do. Well, there's definitely reason for metal cups. You really shouldn't be drinking out of plastic. Okay. Again, I mean, I do. I drink a plastic water bottle, someone gives you one, but I avoid them whenever I can. Yeah, of course, we all know how to plastic. When I'm drinking out of plastic bottles myself, and I don't know, I don't see that much of a... It's gonna turn you into a chick. Well, maybe. Hahaha. Is this even real water? What kind of water is this? Oh, filtered. All right, filtered water. Yeah. What is it? So super filter. Some crazy filter. Definitely a special machine that's that you can't even the water outside the right. Good water, right? Till it. That's very delicious. And then you got a whole, I don't know if anybody's ever talked about your area on your side of the table. There's just so much shit going on over there. [2:03] There's tens. There's mamm so much shit going on over there. There's tens. There's a mammoth teeth. I got a arrowhead a religion arrowheads probably 500,000 years old. You got soil on your bookshelf out there. Yes. Well, I never seen anybody jar soil. Well, that was from a gentleman who runs white oak's pastures his name is Will Harris and he He has this amazing farm. It's a regenerative farm and he gave us two Pieces of soil to Is that Karl Barker? He wants a fight. He didn't get enough biting me this morning He didn't get enough biting me this morning. One more offer. Carls getting hard, dude. He bit my finger. That was a really yip that I went in. He bit me this morning. I was like, yo. Carls goes after me. No, yeah, you went after me. But anyway, that soil, one of them is a jar of regenerative soil, which means soil [3:01] that is how a farmer's supposed to be run where there's manure and chickens and all the animals just ruminate and they live off the land in a natural way and it's a deep rich dark soil and the other soil which is pale is that's industrial soil. That soil that's been used with industrial fertilizers and the top soils dead and it's just garbage which is most of what we and it's just garbage, which is most of what we eat. See, the difference between you and I is you actually remember what the soil does and what. Is somebody getting me soil? Somebody getting me soil? Somebody getting me soil? And you said you got soil? I got, yeah, somebody getting me dirt. And I would know the difference between the two. You see the dark dirt is the good dirt. That's the real dirt. That's the real dirt. That's how dirt's supposed to look out in the wild. That's what we're supposed to be eating food from. Mineral rich soil. So you get healthy vegetables, healthy animals. That's beautiful that you have that on display. Yeah. And again, coming and taking a tour of this place [4:03] is inspiring. Coming and taking a tour of this place is inspiring You make me want to spend money Yeah, he's just spend money you definitely should spend money because if you don't spend money like what's the point in having? I know I wish I could get there, but you look at watch your ballin look at that This is what is that my wife gave me this beautiful one. What is that? My wife gave me this for a beautiful watch. What is that? It's a Cartier watch for a wedding. That's gorgeous. Let me see that. Let me look at that. Cool. That's a pretty watch. That is a lovely watch. Well thank you, Joe. I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah, she gave me this for a wedding gift. Very nice. But watch got Yeah, she got. You answered faster. She got a lot more taste than I do. I tell you that right now. I know, yeah, I let my wife pick out almost everything. When I have nice sneakers on, it's generally my wife bottom. Does your wife comment on your clothing? She does, but she leaves me alone for the most part. But she'll dress me occasionally, [5:02] if I have to go out, but I'm basically a fucking teenager. Yeah, well yeah, like a T-shirt, like a J-shirt suit. T-shirt, yay. I wear T-shirts. Yeah, they're comfortable, or jeans, they're comfortable. You know, I don't really give a fuck. I don't think I've ever seen you in a suit. I wear suits, yeah. Yeah, I have some nice suits, I have like a whole row in my office. I'm in my house, my closet filled with suits. Yeah, I got a bunch of custom-made suits. Cause I can't wear regular suits, I don't fit them, you know. There's a lot of 200 pound, five, eight dudes. It's just very odd shaped. They don't make clothing. Shimp. Shimp sizes. Short shoes. To be quite. Yeah, but it's a nice fitted suit. It's a fucking wonderful thing to have, because it just fits perfect. All the cuffs and everything. You feel different, you put it on, you know? We, all the boys, we did a show in Vegas. We did the MGM, the Grand Garden Arena, and we did a Me and Brian Simpson, Tony Hinch, Cliff and Hans Kim. And we, we got them all suits. I said, let's all get like we're doing Vegas. Come on, let's do it. [6:05] Rat pack styles. We got some of these beautiful David August suits and Jamie got one too. It was incredible. Nice. It was so much fun. Yeah. It's nice. You feel different when you show up with a suit on. You do feel different, however. Look at that. That's us. Come It's a nice sharp sharp. Everybody's looking sharp. Look at Jamie with the shades. Come on. I've got the full pulp fiction ponytail going on. Look at you. Yeah, nice, right? I feel though, with a suit. Right, and I've noticed this as I've gained some weight in the midsection, wearing a suit is becoming extremely uncomfortable if you don't have like a very kind of tight wearing a suit is becoming extremely uncomfortable if you don't have like a very kind of tight body. Right, if you get stuck around here, it binds you. Tuck in the shirt, there's the buttons. I hang around from the body. So I'm fluctuating in my weight where the suits I got right now, [7:04] I got to work in them. Yeah, well you and me are both Italian and Italians. We just love our pasta, it's a problem. It's a problem, especially. It's a problem when you, after you hit 50, it seems to not go away. It doesn't go away. The only way to go away is to not eat pasta. That's the only way. It's the only way for me, not Eposta and booze. If I cut way back on the booze and no pasta, my body just goes, and it travels back to normal. Yeah, I'm in the process of trying to get back. And it's so hard to avoid that food. The food is just like, if it's in front of me, I just have a real problem. Well, you're like to eat meat. Do you find that the meat is helping your physique and stage? Yeah, if I just eat meat, yeah, definitely. Yeah, because meat is very satisfying. Meat has what's called a high satiety rate, which means like when you eat it, you get satisfied when your body's had enough. But I always say this like, [8:01] if you gave me a steak, just a steak, 16 ounce steak, I eat it, I'm good. I don't need anything else. But if there's a bowl pasta next to that steak, I'm eating the pasta too. If there's some bread and butter, I'm gonna eat the bread and butter. Somebody rolls out dessert, of course I'll have dessert. Next thing you know, I've consumed, 1500 extra calories that I didn't even really want or need. They just, you just get addicted to just stuffing your face. Just stuff. Oh, if I don't leave like this, like my stomach literally will descend out where I look at myself in the mirror, I'm disgusted, like what have you eaten? Look at all the mass you put in your body. Because if you looked at, like, we keep your stomach like right here. This is normal my normal stomach, but if you add That much food, which is I'll consume that much food easy. It just goes right here. Oh, yeah Oh, I just look you like you fat piece of shit. You lazy [9:02] Slavinly greedy fuck Like look what you've eaten. You get any sweat at night when you sleep after you have me? I'm drenched. I have a thing called an eight-sleep mattress cover. I have one. They're fucking amazing. Okay. It's a game changer. Okay, so do you crank that thing up to 10 after you eat a meal like that to cool off the body? No, generally, if I'm sweating, it's because I'm having nightmares. I'll have some nightmares and I'll wake up drenched. Not in that thing though. That thing, generally, I don't think I have woken up sweaty since I got it. It's really, I always used to wake up sweaty. I wake up at wet sheets. Don't get sheets. No, I eat a rib-bye. I get up at two o'clock in the morning, I get up and I'm like sweating. And that never used to happen when I used to eat. I don't remember what I have the eight-sleep thing dialed into, but I got it right there at the sweet spot. [10:00] I've tried it a little too cool, a little too warm, but now I got it right there. I sleep like a baby. Do you have a heat up in the morning? I think it does. I think it's on some sort of a cycle. I'm not exactly sure, I don't remember how I set it up, but there's a bunch of different options that you can do, and you can even have a different option for you or your wife if she likes it warmer or cooler, it's nice. No, it's been a game changer for me. It does make a big difference. Yeah. Taking care of your sleep is, I've really prioritized that, especially recently, because you know, on in the club and being out late and I was doing two shows a night, which is also a lot, was too much. I was doing six hours of comedy a week, just doing three nights, just doing Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, two shows a night, but it was just, I was too tired, I was burnt out. And I wasn't getting the proper sleep because I'd get home, shows over, you know, like 12, 30 or something like that, I'd get home, hanging out with the guys at the club, I'd get home at like 130, and then I start writing. And so I write from 130 to like four [11:06] and then I have to get up at 10 to work out and like this is too much. I have to talk to my material in the day to night. Yeah, that's my right. Wow. Yeah, I almost always find that I'm most productive when everyone in my house is asleep. So I don't have to like, dad, you know, I have to think about anything, did you do this, did you put that away, did this, where's the thing? I don't have to deal with anything, the dogs asleep, everybody's cool, I can just sit in front of that fucking computer and think, you know, unless the only time that I have like free reign of my house, where there's no one awake. So I get my best. And also, I think you're jazzed up when you get off stage. And if you just hold onto that, like your brain is already kind of in comedy mode, your brain is already thinking. Yeah, for me, I do a voice message. I record the set and I'll listen to it afterwards, [12:02] but as far as like creating, I mean, I feel like after 10 o'clock, the whole body shuts down. And I got two small kids, so maybe that's why they're all really. Sure, they're all really. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, 9.30, 10. There's, there's, I talk about the two shows. I mean, I used to do two shows with my, my eyes closed. And now it's like the second show, it's like, hey. Are you taking vitamins? Uh, I take supplements like, you know, multi-vitamin. I'm sure I don't have a dialed in as- She did a dialed in as- That'll make a big difference. Much should be. But I just feel exhausted. Yeah. I am tired. Yeah. And I just constantly have to have sips of caffeine throughout the day to stay alive. That's where I'm at. You look like you wake up ready to go. Right? Right? I got this whole vision of what your day must look like. [13:00] You must spring out of bed and go, give me it. Right? Right? I never, I only I've known you, I've seen you, you on. Kid bro, you constantly look awake. What is it? It's health. The water. It's all the above supplements. Definitely. That's a big factor. I take a lot of vitamins. I take athletic greens. That's one thing I take. But I take a whole suite of different vitamins. I take a bunch of different things like vitamin D, vitamin K2. I take things for eyesight. I take just fish oil. I take creatine. I take a lot of stuff. Okay. Yeah. I took three or four vitamins ones. I swallowed it with some water. I coughed at a puff of white smoke. [14:03] Came out of my mouth. Fightin' about here. Yeah. I think the body's rejecting the white. You got it? It's gotta be a slow process. You don't wanna dive right into the amount of vitamins. The amount of vitamins I take is like half of this coffee cup. Cheese. Every day. All right. Yeah. I'm taking a cup like this. You have like a whole cabinet It's filled with supplements when I pull them out. So when you travel, what do you care, you care your suitcase of supplements? I have a bag and in my bag. Most of the time when I travel, there's a company called Pure encapsulations and they make these packs like athletic pure pack. They're great for travel. Very easy, you don't have to think about it. Just rip open the pack, take those vitamins and you're good. So when I'm on the road, generally, you getting rid of Carl? Is he too, too rowdy? He's rowdy, he wants a bite me. He's too thin. Very, very, very, how cute is that dog? He's cute, I just want a dog. I just got a dog, guys. I never, never a dog. It's a labored doodle and it's great dogs. It's extremely intelligent. Yeah, but I don't think it likes me [15:07] What I don't know. He's looking at me like I was my wife loves my kid doesn't like you. I don't know just it's Mm-hmm. It's not as excited to see me as maybe my wife and kids really and just very perceptive on the Maybe he wants to meet a man. Is he the man of the house? Well, he's becoming the man. Does he have balls? Ah, yeah. Well, keep his balls. Don't, don't. That's what the, I think the dog trainer said, just keep them keeping up with lots of things. The whole idea is you don't want unnecessary puppies. Right, I agree. Don't let your dog breed. But be with your fucking dog. But if you take your dog's balls off, now your dog doesn't have any testosterone anymore. They develop hip problems and joint problems. They're tired all the time. Just like a man. If you take his balls away, they become a unique. That's what you're doing to your dog. Okay. I've seen people do it and they're like, oh, I wish I didn't do it. Like Andrew Huberman said that. He started giving his dog testosterone [16:06] because he gave his dog, he got his dog fixed. And then his dog was like, listless all the time. And so he's like, he felt terrible. And they started doing the research on it and looking into it and like, oh, then you need hormones. Dogs do it just like people do. It's terrible for them. Yeah, we'll keep his nuts intact. I had a vet that told me that. One vet, a great guy. And he was like, don't do it, don't do it. Everybody says to do it. Like you're not gonna, you're not taking your dog somewhere and letting your dog breed with a bunch of different dogs and have puppies that are irresponsibly. So your dog has a nice yard. You're a good dog owner, you're with him all the time. Like don't worry about it. Don't do it. As long as you're paying attention to it. Yeah, just the whole idea is just to not, I mean, people are irresponsible. That's why I can't go to the dog pound. If I go to the dog pound, I will have 20 dogs I would have I would have many yeah [17:08] I always had dogs I would have as many dogs as I can I love them they're just pure love and if you have a good relationship with your dogs if you dogs love you and you love them it's like every day I wake up and I say to my dog good morning sir and he goes whoo he starts whimperpering and whining and wagging his tail 50 miles an hour. And he goes around circles. And we hug it out and I kiss him and I rub his belly. It's like we have a morning ritual. I'd love dogs, man. Oh, it's nice. It changed your life. They make your life feel with love. Cats are cool, but they're kind of a loof. You know, they want to be pet and then they go away and they're cool. They just want to go outside and kill something. Your dog is like your friend. You know, it's a hangout with you. Like I take him to work. He's like, are we going to work? That's crazy. We're going to work. Every day when I bring out the ball, I think he's going to the fucking ball! He's got the ball! He's running around circles, jumping up in the air, [18:06] trying to steal the ball from me before I throw it. It's amazing. Yeah, that's what I hear a lot of dog owners. You're not having that experience. Well, not yet. Not yet. How old is he? He's like three months old. Just spend time with him. I know. I'm playing. I'm just saying I'm getting. I don't know if it's the colon I got on I would smell awful They what the hell is it probably smell like a chemical fact? Like what the fuck is this dude smell like? Whoo, I feel I feel I feel do you work alone? I feel like you don't work alone do you work alone? What do you mean? Do you work alone? Where alone? Yeah, I saidologne. No, no, no, no, no, I don't wear cologne. No, I barely wear, I only wear deodorant because I don't wanna be offensive because I will get offensive. I'll smell terrible, but I wear natural deodorant with no aluminum in it and all that chast. Of course you do. Yeah. I don't smell you don't smell at all. No Are you sure? [19:09] I could you not smell I don't I don't have whatever it is that gives off any type of body odor I really I don't have it. I don't have you been told this by someone or you just like deduce this on your eye? I gotten sweaty many at times and I've gotten sweaty many a times. And I've asked my wife, do I smoke? She says no. So I don't emanate any odor while I'm sweating. Interesting. Maybe your wife can't smell good. No, I'm telling you Joe. Believe me, I'm very keen on odors. So if I smell anything, I make sure that that's taken. Odors are interesting because you know, your all factory senses, they detect changes in smell. They don't detect static smells. That's why people that live in an area like with a slaughterhouse, they don't freak out. Like my family used to live in Pennsylvania, and when I would drive from New York to go visit them, when I would drive through these areas where they have farms and slaughterhouses, fertilizer. It's a fucking terrible smell in the whole town. [20:06] Like how can these people live here? They don't smell it. Oh, the no body odor gene, that's what you have. People have the ABCC 11 non-functioning gene variant have dry earwax and little to no body odor. Now, hmm. I've known this for some time, right? Yeah. That I have no body odor. Now, I've known this for some time, right? That I have no body odor. But it's nice to come on the show because there's always a reference put up. I could look that up. I never looked it up and here you come and you walk away knowing that you don't have the gene that emits odor. Yeah, some sort of a gene expression. Interesting. I wonder what the benefits, we were talking about this yesterday, like people that didn't shower. There was people that went their whole life without bathing because bathing was considered a sin. It was sinful. You want to discourage people. What was that about that we're reading? [21:05] It was something religious, right? It was about like royalty and old-timey people. But St Agnes, is that who it was that went his whole life without bathing at all? His whole life, no bathing. I can imagine that. Imagine that guy smiling like, imagine what his asshole smile like. What the fuck, dude? Have you gone recently in the last ten years Imagine a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, I work out. So if I work out I wish I were. I wish and I'll cold plunge and sauna. So that's you know you just drench this way. You feel like shit if you don't wash off a little. No I agree. I'm just I think I might be showering too much. How much is shower? Well I normally get two showers in a day. Real sometimes three. [22:02] I feel like I feel like if I'm gonna go to dinner say with my wife I feel like I can't take the day shower and bleed it into the night I feel it's at the reset right to get re-ready for the nice Yeah, I want to look nice. You want to feel nice put that watch on put the watch on Yeah, go on have a nice bowl of pasta. Yeah, sweat the death. I'm talking Do you use the eight-sleep thing? Does it help you? Well, it's, again, I got this eight-sleep, it's supposed to monitor your sleep. Right. I got the horror rings, supposed to monitor it. You know what I need? What? I need accountability. I need to send the data to someone and have gone someone and have them and have them analyze it and go You know what the problem is you're waking up at one o'clock in the morning and that's disrupting your sleep But I got all this data. I got an Apple watch. Oh, I've burned 390 calories. Okay [23:02] What does that mean? You know like there's no, I have a lot of data, I don't have a lot of analysis. All right, do you have a trainer? I have a trainer, yeah. Maybe she get a nutritionist. You got some bread, get a nutritionist. What's someone we can show the data to? No, tell you what you're doing wrong. All right, I need someone to hand over the data to that. Yeah, they have like companies that do stuff like that. Okay. Yeah, you can get that done. Yeah, you should do that. Yeah, I bet the late night eating things are real problem. That one makes you feel terrible when you're sitting. Well, what's late night eating? Okay, like some say, all right, you should have dinner at 5.36 o'clock and after that, you don't need if you go to bed around 9.9.30. I mean, what's a late night meal for you? At one o'clock in the morning last night, I was cooking elks dicks. One o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Well, then you were up to 4.30. I was up to 3. Yeah. I mean, as long as you're not going to sleep, I figure out two, three hours. [24:00] I think two, three hours are a good time to go to bed after a meal. A couple hours. Yeah, but I've done it like where I eat and go right to bed. That's terrible. That's terrible. That's what one went out and I'm like, we have eight o'clock at night, we're eating next thing, you know, eight, 41 or in bed. And I'm like, is this healthy? So I should go for a walk. Go for a walk right I just saw something online that's walking. I was gonna share that. Oh, it was an agreement lab. Oh, yeah, there it is. That's from Andrew Hoobman again. Brief post meal walks and blood sugar regulation. So they explain the simple yet large positive effect that a brief post meal walk as simple as it may sound, the date is impressive and it is impressive stuff. I forget exactly what the numbers were, but you should, 35% change in your blood sugar level is by taking a walk around the block after a meal. Pretty amazing. With all this stuff that's out, right? All this information of how to live your life and you took me to a tour, you got the, you got the, the bank, the sauna, [25:03] I feel like at this age, at 50, all the stuff that you got to do to prepare for the day, by the time you're done with it, you got to go back to bed again, right? So by the time you work out, do the cold plunge, you're in the sun, you're in the tank, and then it's time to go to bed. It's time to go to bed with all it all the shit you gotta do, right? It's not that much. It used to be you just work out for an hour, you took a shower, and you went out with your day. Now I gotta go submerge myself in the water, I gotta go sweat, then I gotta go float in the tank. But the tank takes a lot of time, but the other things don't take the float tank takes a lot of time. But the other things, like cold plunge adds three minutes to my day. Sauna adds 20 minutes to my day. It's 25 extra minutes of my workout. That's it. No, I... I wasn't looking for the time break down, George. I was just thinking... But it doesn't take the whole day. But I'm just saying the amount of shit... Then you ought to eat the vitamins, the half of the cup. And then... [26:01] But it's all said done. It's time for dinner. No, no, you get things done, man. Just sit you exaggerating. I don't, I don't, I don't, it's the way you do humor. I get it. I get it. It's plenty of time. It's plenty of time. You just don't waste you to like today. I wasted an hour just scrolling through Instagram. It's one of the rare days I just felt like indulging myself. Like, it's fucking see what's going on in the world. Bunch of nonsense. Some interesting things, but just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour just wasted scrolling. Yeah, I mean, there's time, there's my numbing things that you do to kind of like whatever carry yourself throughout the day. I'm just saying 20 years ago, nobody knew about any of this shit about what you're sweating and what that does. Now with the internet you could throw up. You know, before the internet, if we were talking about walking, right, we would just go, oh yeah, now walk is good for you. Next thing, you know, now we got a whole study up on [27:02] the screen of how walking is beneficial to you and this that and the other thing. I'm just saying with the amount of information out there, sometimes it feels a little bit overwhelmed going, how much do I have to do to get through today? Well it depends on how you want to feel. If you want to have a lot of energy, like I do, you have to do a lot of things. And I firmly believe this is the reason why I'm so productive. And I think if I didn't do the cold punch in the song and the workouts and the vitamins and the eating healthy, I'd be a completely different human being. I know, that's why I'm... I wouldn't have the energy. No, I get it. There's a lot you got to do. Yeah, that's why you got to do. Like I see people on internet sweating. So I'm like, then I'm like, okay, do I got to start sweating? Is the steam room that I got at home? Is that not enough? Do a couple eucalyptic sprays breathe in, sweat a little bit, and then I come out right? That's not bad. Okay, but now do I need an infrared sauna? [28:06] Because now I gotta get the sweat that's inside, that's not coming out. But Steve, what's happening? The infrared sauna is probably very good for you, but there's not a lot of data on it, like there is with the traditional dry sauna. A traditional dry sauna, there's a lot of very beneficial data. And the thing about the difference between steam and sauna is you can't really get steam hot enough Because you'll cook because it's just too crazy You know you can't get a hundred and ninety degrees steam shower You'd literally go in there and scald your skin But you can get a hundred and ninety degree dry sauna and you go in there and you really fucking sweat Yeah, that's when your body develops all those heat shock proteins, because your body's reacting to it overheating. So it has to do something to sort of mitigate that effect. And that effect of mitigating it is what's so beneficial for your life. I mean, there's a study out of Finland. They did a 20 year study that found that using the saw on a four times a week for 20 minutes at a time, [29:03] and I think it was 175 degrees. Lower is your all cause mortality by 40%. That means strokes, heart attack, cancer, everything. Lower is it by 40%. And this is a long term study of many, many people. So the 190 degrees is a lot more beneficial than the steam. As steam at 120, is that doing anything? It's doing something, wasting time. Yeah, that's all good. A hot bath is good. Everything is good. Getting your body to heat up is good, because it gets your body to react, and it's the same thing. It develops those heat shock proteins. A really hot bath is very good for you. If you can get it a nice hot, especially if you get some Epsom salts in there, you get that magnesium. You got a really hot bath. Woo, very, very good for you. You know what I started doing? Talk about magnesium. And I don't know if you've ever done this, but I'm doing a... I got a little spray bottle of magnesium. I spray it on my feet at night and I put socks on. [30:04] Have you ever heard of that move? No. Why did you do that? So I don't mind. Look at how I'm gonna try this. I'm a guy. I'm telling you right now, this is what I do. I don't do research. None? None. I see that. I go, oh, okay, it's pretty magnesium. I was just be putting sax sex. I'm gonna try it at the night. That's it. No Google search. No Google search, no, not that. It could be killing me for all I know. I don't think it is. But I'm doing magnesium feet sack sleeps. Does it seem to have a change in the way you feel? Again, having done it consistently enough to even find out if this is helping me. Right. So I'm a guy that does like things kind of on the whim And there's really no consistency with it, right? Let's look into it for you because the magnesium foot spray that's I'm now interested like what is the deal behind that there's definitely multiple products being sold for as magnesium oil for your feet [31:02] I didn't see anything necessarily to necessarily saying need to keep socks on too. I throw the socks out just because I don't want to oil it. I don't want magnesium all over the bed. I'm trying to find like a solace. That's a good move. That's the worst of. No, that's what I'm doing. My wife is even looking at me going, Jesus gracious. I swear I'm going to get you to bed spraying my feet. I'm like, why? She's like, really? You make me see mine your feet. Is this sort of relationship? Yeah. Yeah. So, what the fuck? So I don't know if you get, the internet probably don't even have this information. I saw it like on a random, I think it was an Instagram video. Well, I would imagine it get absorbs through your skin just like the float tank does. The float tank is a great source of magnesium because there's a thousand pounds of epsom salts in the water and your skin absorbs it. So, I would imagine your skin's absorbing that stuff, your spraying on your feet. Yeah, it just doesn't absorb it as well as like an oral supplement. [32:01] Okay. That's about all it says yeah, so not good absorption, but it works a little bit. Okay, full soften I can help with cramps or some sort of nerve functions magnesium house you go sleep though, right? It's a good one for sleep. Yeah, yeah, I know sometimes when I get those IV in this magnesium in there. I feel exhausted We The I the IV again, this is another thing people do. Right. Oh, you gotta get a bag of whatever the hell's in the thing. Right. I don't even ask. I just give me the bag, whatever you, whatever you, and then I get it, right? Don't feel any different. No? No, nothing. You will if you're sick. Yeah. If you're, if you're, if you're, or I tell everybody, if you are down, if you're feeling shit and you run down, get an IV vitamin drip. It'll, it's a game changer, especially with a high dose of zinc and vitamin C. You get an IV vitamin bag and you will feel way better. Bill Burr was sick as a dog when I saw him last. [33:01] I was like, how long have you been sick for? He's like, two weeks, I can't shake this call. I go, please listen to me. I just do this. Get a vitamin IV and he texts me the other day. He's like, Dr. Rogan, he goes, it fixed me. I'm gonna do that from now on. I'm like, from now on. Anytime you're sick, you feel like shit. Get a high dose, vitamin C, zinc, B12, the whole deal in a bag. You'll feel much, much better. Because it gives your body the tools it needs to fight off whatever the fuck is trying to get you. Yeah, Joe, listen, I've done the bag, right? Well, ill. Has it hasn't helped? Well, it's helped, but not like where I came out of it. Like, this is what I'm thinking. If I take the bag and I got a cough, after I take the bag, the cough should go away. I don't want the cough anymore. Right. And if the cough is still there, I feel like, eh, eh, eh, eh. Have you ever done NAD? No. NAD is rough. How do you say nucleotide, adeninide, what does it do? [34:05] Nicotineinide, adeninide, adeninide, adeninide, adeninide, adeninide. Oh, yeah. What is it? So, NAD is a supplement that you can take that actually helps your telomeres lengthen, which is a sign of healthy, healthy bodies and young people. Found in all living cells, NAD is called die-nucleotide because it consists of two nucleotides joined through their phosphorus groups. So you take that in an IV bag and generally most people do it over a long period of time. You do it over like two hours. So you just watch a movie. Because it's very uncomfortable. What, what, to get in? Yeah, the NAD is very uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable for your stomach. It makes you like cramp. Oh, okay. You're like, whoa. If you do it quick, it's like it's a intense feeling that most people don't enjoy. What's the benefit? What does it do? There's a lot of benefits. It's a benefit for your immune system. There's a benefit cognitively. You feel much better. You just you come out of it when your [35:08] bodies replenish with that stuff. You just feel fantastic. Okay. Feel really good. That's something else I got to do. But that's one that needs some time. Unless you can go hardcore and just like deal with the uncomfortable feeling. I don't do anything hardcore. Nothing. Nothing comfortable feeling. I'm gonna do anything hardcore, nothing. Nothing in my life is hardcore. Interesting. Interesting. Do you have an aversion to hardcore things? Or is this how it all panned out? It's just how I'll pin out. Hardcore for me is... Hardcore is comedy, that's what I do. Okay, hardcore is one thing. One thing. One thing we're all in on. All in on comedy. But other than that, outside, I wish I was more interested and dove into things a little bit more deeper than I have. Everything with me is a little bit on the surface. Do you really wish that? Because I feel like if you did wish that, you would just do it. Right? [36:00] Yeah. I just wish I had the, I don't know what it is inside me that would make me want to learn more about Like I like cooking, right? But I don't dive so into it where I'm coming up with recipes and doing this and that and the other thing Right, right, right. Let's look at a YouTube video make that make the fish and then here's the fish But I don't take it to the another level. I don't go get the beautiful knife for the pots and pans and all the stuff that goes along with cooking, right. My interest level is surface rarely does it go underneath the surface. You know what I really got into out here is cooking over wood, like live like actual hardwood, not just lump charcoal, like getting wood and using an offset smoker and slowly searing the steaks, or slowly like cooking the steaks rather, and then searing them at the end over the coals, I take the coals and then I put the coals from the hard wood underneath the grill [37:02] and then see if this shit out of it. Okay, I hear that. I hear that. Yeah. And my brain is gonna explode like that again. That's too much. That's too much. That's too much. But we're all different, fast. So I know we're all different. What, like, do you know the kind of wood that it lives, you want oak generally alive oak or you want, if you want to grill hotter you like a lot of guys like Mesquite I like Mesquite and oak those are my two favorite but I'll try cherry I'll try some different woods some places you can go to get hard wood just for some because there's so much barbecue out here yeah this company that'll just deliver cords of wood to your house okay speaking of wood right I got a pizza oven my My goal is to make pizza. It's not as easy as people might think to make pizza from scratch, to dough and the whole thing. It's very hard. So I've tried multiple times. And, you know, I'm the, again, I'm a guy that, [38:01] I'll try it again and hope for a different result, but I'll do the same thing I did before. Just hoping magically, oh, it's gonna come out. My pizza don't even look like pizza. I don't even, it looks like the shapes are unrecognizable. I can't even get a circle on the damn thing. To work, I work it out. It's not pliable enough. So when I put it in there, half of the cheese flies off into the stove, I bring it out. It's a mess. Why don't you get pre-made dough? You can get pre-made dough, Joe. And for whatever the reason, I cannot get a circle with the thing. I try this. I bet if you went to like a real Italian pizza real, they would show you how to do it. Again, you went there. Joe, listen, you teach me something. I come home. I forget half of the shit I learned. I don't have any retention or comprehension on anything. Is this always been the case? It's always been the case. But not with comedy. That would. That's like interesting. [39:01] The one thing that you're successful at, like super successful at, you've like focused entirely on that. I had no more focus. The focus I have is for comedy after that the focus wanes because I feel like I just don't have, you know, that's probably a good way to live. Yeah, just say, let's just be casual most of your life and be intense about one thing. That sounds like a good balance. I don't think it's any wrong with that. Well, I would like to learn more things as I, even when you got kids now, you could teach your kids how to do the archery, you got the archery thing, you know, hunting, you know how to hunt, right? I'm trying to figure out what am I passing on to my kids as far as skill sets as a concern? Yeah, I do talking shit, huh talking shit. That's how you get it talking shit My kids are real good at talking shit These are funny things man. It's fun. We have a fun house. It's like a lot of fun shit talking That's always that's always good. Then they make fun of me too, which is fun. Like there's no, you know, I could never make fun [40:06] of my parents. There was none of that growing up. They're fucking yell at you. Oh, we had that relationship with my parents. Yeah, you can't be Italian parents. No, no, we did. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna be making jokes around. Yeah, just goofing around. Okay, they didn't. There was not a lot of joking around. No. So I love joking around. And so they make it fun to me all the time. Like it's hilarious. Your daughters? Yeah, they're funny. They talk shit. And they know that I like it. They know that I laugh. So everyone's like, we have a good time. They talk shit to each other. They talk shit to their friends. The talking shit is fun. It's like, it's a fun activity. It's one of my favorite things about a green room at a comedy club is that everybody's talking shit. You go back there, everybody's bustin' balls, crackin' on people, guys and girls, everyone's laughing, or I'll just, like shit with each other. And it's hilarious. It's such a beautiful environment. [41:02] You know, like a green room of a comedy club where you're around a bunch of good people and everyone's laughing and we're all jazzed up because you're about to do shows and oh that's how I wanted I wish you were in last night I wanted to take you to the club. Yeah I wish I would have came to the club. It's so much fun man it's such a great spot my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my center of attention or contributing to the fun. I've always been the guy that just kind of comes in quiet and listen because I don't know a lot of the comedians intimately enough to have that like comfortable. So if I walk into a room like here, I just did the show with Seinfeld, Nate Bergazzi and Jim Gaffigan. And we all backstage, I tend to be the one whose, [42:09] I listen, and I chime in every now and again. I don't have to be the guy that comes in and kind of like pisses on the room going on. That's actually good, that's a good trait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also when you're around those guys like, hey, what a great time to sit back and listen. You got side-feld, Napar Godsy, and Jim Gaffkin and a room together? Look at that. Yeah, so we had a great time, but I'm just, when did that's crazy? When did what? I was gonna say, like, look at you. You look like an Arab. It doesn't look like you. When did you turn into a guy from Palestine? I don't know. Where's that photo? What did some of the tuition for the filter on you? That does not look like you. Am I right, Jamie? I just dark. No, no, no, no. Dark. The guy, he came off a yacht. There's no other way. Like, the screw, he looks like a guy in the get octopus. I got Mediterranean one. You don't even look like you. [43:06] Like in that photo, you look handsome. Don't get me wrong. You look great. But you don't look at you. No, you know what it is. Everybody else is white. That's what it is. Super white. When you're next to Jim Gaffigan, right? Right, right, right. Of course you're going to look like you are the favorite. That he looks like a normal color in that which is wrong. Yeah, look at that. Look at that. Well, that at least looks like you. That other photo did not look like you. Maybe it was the lighting, Joe, but that's me. I was there. I believe you. I'm 100% believe you. I'm just saying that. Like, go to that last photo, Jamie. I'm not lying. Right. Go to that last photo Get the fuck out of here, then I you That's some that's some dude that works for the Saudi Arabian government I Came over here Make some sort of a deal to try to get comedy to go over the Middle East. I know a lot of guys You do comedy in the Middle East and they give you like a list of shit you can't talk about I did it oh wait [44:01] Bunch of comedians that scares me a List of shit you can't talk about, like what if I slip up? Yeah. What if there's a moment in the crowd where someone yells something out? And I think it would be funny to say something. And whoopsies. Yeah, there's a lot of editing. Now you're in jail. Yeah. Yeah. Who had a problem with that? Who was it? Someone actually went to one of those Middle East countries and did a gig and almost got arrested. It was Eddie Ift. Yeah, he, the only thing that saved him, I believe the story was, I believe it's Eddie. I think the only thing that saved him is some of the royal family thought he was hilarious. They didn't have a problem with what he said at all. I think he called someone sir when he not supposed to call him sir You supposed to call him your highness or your excellency? And he was referring to people in the audience and talking to them and calling them sir And then they were trying to rest him afterwards. Geez Yeah, yo Like sir's not good. That's that even like I thought it was something. No, it wasn't anything [45:03] That's why I'm nervous like that's not, I mean that's not even anything crazy. That's nothing. But your brand of humor, did you take that and did you do corporates and that wasn't your style? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody that I've ever known that's done a corporate after they do them, they go, why did I do that? Ron White just did one. He was his worst fucking experience in my life. But they offered me a shitload of money and I said, yes, I kept saying no, but they kept coming up with higher numbers. And eventually I said, yes, and he was fucking terrible. Tony Hankscliffe just did one. He said it was fucking terrible. They're always terrible. You like him? Joe, I gotta be honest. I don't mind a corporate. Really? I really don't mind a corporate. Yeah, you have had those awful corporate gigs where, you know. What percentage of what? I just ran into Sandler. He told me he ate dick at a corporate gig. Yeah, I mean, Adam Sandler. Yeah, they're not. They paid to see Adam Sandler. They knew Adam Sandler was gonna be there and it's still sucked. It's the environment sometimes. It's like you're walking into whatever they just had their [46:06] Breakout meeting and then they're coming and oh, it's comedy, but it's just the different vibe They're all scamming about their careers. They're all networking. Yeah, fuck and making their little backstabby moves But you call them you call them out on that you know you kind of like do material about what they're going through during the three day Sales meeting at the Venetian right, you know, so you kind of like do material about what they're going through during the three-day Sales meeting at the Venetian right, you know, so you kind of relate to I actually I don't I don't mind them as much as other You know comedians are corporate this I actually don't mind Jay Leno loves them. Yeah, I mean that's where he's made the majority of his money Jay you know Jay Leno all those fucking cars he has, never spent a dime of his tonight show money. I know. Never spent a dime, puts it all in the back. It's amazing. All those cars, it's all him doing gigs. Well, here, you didn't grow up with money, right? So, now you're super successfully got this money. [47:02] Was there someone that taught you how to manage money or how to look at money in a way where you're like, okay, I have a good grasp on this. Yeah, I mean, money manager would have you, but I'm just talking to your relationship with money, is it like, yeah, we're here, you live it up, spend it, or is it more like, do you ever think this is not gonna be the most Popular podcast ever or do you even do you even think that way? I don't think that way. I never thought it would be popular in the first place When I first started doing it there was just me and Brian Redban in my fucking living room like and then Comedians Joey Diaz come over Eddie Bravo comes over are he comes over we just Haven't fun just talking shit. I comes over. We're just having fun. Just talking shit. I never imagined. I didn't plan for it. Like when everybody has those vision boards, like this is how you become successful. You have to manifest it. I didn't manifest this at all. Zero. The most successful thing I've ever done by a long shot and I've put zero management into it. The all I've done is just keep doing what I enjoy doing [48:09] and it turns out other people enjoy too. That's it. It's just talk to people like yourself, talk to funny people, talk to interesting people, talk to people I agree with, talk to people I disagree with, have civil conversations with people who you disagree with things. It's good for you too. Just all I do is just do what I enjoy doing. If I could do this for free, I would still do it. I enjoy it. So you do this podcast. Yeah. You have no aspirations of the zero the hugeest thing ever, right? I don't even have any aspirations for growth. I don't say, you know, when by this time next year, I'd like to have no. No. You just focus on. What I'm doing, yeah. I'll put it. I feel like everything else is a distraction. Like as long as you're making enough money, Brian counts it something he wants, and I never forgot it. He said, and we were kids, we were in our 20s. He said the only amount of money you need [49:00] is so that you can go to a restaurant and not care what things cost. Everything else is bullshit. If you got enough money, you can go to a restaurant and you don't worry. Just order a bottle of wine, order meat, order whatever you want to eat. You don't think about the price. He goes, that's real freedom. Because everything else, like all that other shit, you forget. That's all just becomes complicated. You don't need that. Which is just real freedom is the freedom to not worry about your bills. That's the real, like I experienced that leap, that jump when I got a development deal. So I was like, I guess I was 25, 26 maybe, 25? I got this development deal from Disney. And it was like $150,000. And I couldn't believe it. I had $150,000. This is nuts. And I felt like a physical weight lift over my shoulders. Because back then I was a road comic, you know, you do a gig on Thursday. It's 200 bucks. You do a gig here. It's 150. You know, you're scraping together enough money [50:02] so that you could pay your bills and eat. And you were always worried about gigs. Always trying to fill my book. Always trying to call booking agents, drive to Connecticut, drive to Jersey. Where do I go to make some money? And it was all just trying to stay alive and trying to make it, right? Trying to become like a, like I didn't really think I was a legit professional comedian. It could all go away. And so I got that development deal and it was the nuttyest feeling in the world. It was like I felt lighter. I felt lighter. And then I was like, oh, that's the key. Like get the monkey off your back. Get the bill monkey off your back. And that's the real freedom. The real freedom is not being rich. You don't feel any different being really rich other than the stuff that you can do. But the way you feel in the day is the same way you feel if your bills are paid. That's what you want. All that other shit is like the other thing I noticed when I moved to California was the first time I had a nice apartment and I'll never forget this either. I was sitting in my apartment and it was a beautiful place in North Hollywood, had a loft, had a pool table in my apartment. [51:06] I was like, this is amazing. How is this real? How's this mind? After a while, it just became my house. And then I realized, like, oh, this is the same feeling I have when I'm home that I had in my shitty apartment in New York. It's the same feeling. It's like, oh, this is home. It's the same feeling. It's not better. It's not worth the amount of money that it costs. If you're like renting a house, it's way over your budget and you're doing Uber just to try to pay your bills. It's not worth that. It's, it's, it's, what's worth it is, if it's coughed, if you have a TV and you have a nice bed and you can cook your meals. You're good. That's what you need. That's all you need. Everything else is just like the amount of effort that you have to put in to make the amount of money to get all these other things. Leads you in this constant state of anxiety. I think people just get lost in this idea of constantly making more and getting more and chasing more. [52:04] I just concentrate on what I do. That's all I concentrate on. I concentrate on work, I concentrate on comedy, I concentrate on UFC fights, I concentrate on podcasts. And I don't think about those other things. I don't think about the direction of my career at all. Well, that's a great way to look at things because the only thing you really have control of is what you do have control of is. What you do. What you do. What you put out. So you being a pioneer in the podcast world, right? You and Mark Merren, I feel like we're kind of, Adam Curry was the first. Adam Curry was the original. The MTV VJ. He's still got a podcast now. He's excellent. He's a good friend of mine. And he's the number one guy. He's the pod father. Okay. He's the pod father. He's three named it. They started it off together. Yeah. They started doing it years before I ever did it. And yeah, Mark had his a little bit before mine. Adam Corolla was the first because Adam did it off of radio. So Adam [53:01] had that radio gig where he took over Howard Stern slots when Howard Stern went over to serious. Remember that? So he had this morning show and that morning show was doing real well until, do you remember they used to have a talk radio station in LA before podcast? There was like Tom Lycus was on there and there was a bunch of good shows. Yeah. And that also made me think about doing podcasts too. I mean, I didn't know that a podcast was ever going to be a thing. But I was like, this is a talk radio station now. Like talk radio got so big, mostly because of Howard, I think. But because, but there was a whole station where you could listen to the station. It was all talk radio all day long. There was a science guy on their late night, I forgot what the hell his name was, but yeah you're right. There was like a station had all these kind of cool talk formats. And what I'm saying is for me, I'm not so versed on the history of podcasting, but for me, I just remember [54:01] you as being one of the first guys. Yeah, we were first. Okay, so now you're here. When you look at the landscape of podcasting from when you started to where it is now, do you go, wow, this is amazing and all these people are doing it. Is could anybody do this? It feels like everybody has a podcast. I feel like there's a specific skill set to podcasting. Do you look at what you did early on and what you're doing now and go, wow, look at the growth as far as- That's definitely a lot better. Yeah, I'm definitely better at talking to people. Yeah, it's a skill. You learn it. It makes you a better conversationalist in the real world for sure. Makes you more considerate. It's like comedy, right? And it's like you weren't the podcaster you were. How long you been doing this? It's about 15 years. 15 years somewhere around there, closing down on 15 years? Yeah, so it took 15 years to get it to, I mean, obviously you've been successful for longer than, but it took a long time. [55:01] It took a long ass time. And I think nowadays, it's just, there's a amount of time you gotta put into something in order for it to be a gem. Yes. But, you know, even just the entertainment landscape as I look at it, has entertainment changed where now we're looking at the phone and we're looking at somebody do something crazy at their house. There's a guy I've been watching this insane, his name is insane. He's catching eggs in his mouth, right? Do you see this guy insane, insane, I forget the name of this, insane shame. This guy catches eggs from how far away? 50 yards, they're throwing eggs in this guy's mouth. He's got the best mouth on the internet, right? Does he break the eggs? Or does he catch them and not have a break? Oh, they're like hard like hard boiled or a meatball. Oh, this guy's chucking meatballs. And he's catching them in his mouth. 50 yards. That's a skill. So I'm watching it and I can't yeah, this is this is okay. Okay, the marshmallow combine [56:12] Is he's not catching all of them no, he's he's catching all these kids him and that's spitting them out. Oh my god That's insane Who throws a marshmallow 50? Yeah, I think I think they're, I think they're like ex football players or the guys that are throwing, that's a guy's doing routes. Catching marshmallows in his mouth. So this is crazy. People are trying to block them. That's crazy. He's catching the marshmallows. That's amazing. Okay, so that's a skill. So I'm watching this now. All right, this is entertainment now. Okay. He's got a million followers. He's saying Shane once. Yeah. SHY. He's diving off speedboats catching him in his mouth. I mean, look at this guy. Who would have ever thought that that would be a thing? Oh, he dives into a ball. Yeah. This is a real. Oh, well, this is real footballs. So, as entertainment in your eyes, [57:07] change where it's changing, where this is now what people are watching instead of maybe a movie or a TV show. Well, it's definitely consuming a lot of your time. I mean, if you look at your screen time, like if you look at my screen time on my phone, on an average day, it'll be more than four hours. And how much of that is doom scrolling a lot. A lot, so that's entertainment. So would I have been watching television during that time? No, probably not, because you could take your entertainment with you now, which is even more distracting. Yeah, but you're not watching. You said you did an hour of Instagram. You're not watching like a movie or a documentary. Sometimes I am. Yeah. I mean, I spent a lot of time doing that too. But I do that in certain places. Like I'll watch a documentary on an airplane or I'll watch something at home. But I generally don't take my phone and I'm walking around a house watching documentaries. [58:03] Right? Because you sit down. You would sit down and enjoy that. But this is something that I would probably, if I was on my phone from the kitchen to the bedroom, I'm watching a guy catch, catch, Mark Bell is a question to you is. Okay. If the internet or social media wasn't around, do you think that guy would be around? Do you think this wouldn't be doing that? But do you think this was existing 30 years ago where somebody was chucking marshmallows and catching them just for fun? Yeah. And we didn't see it. There's probably a guy in the neighborhood that could do it. And everybody would come over and watch Bob catch marshmallows with his face. Yeah, I'm sure. But it just never would have been the discipline that it is now where this guy's got like fucking, the guy's blocking him and he's juke and left and right and catching marshmallows in the air with his mouth. It was pretty impressive stuff. So do you think the social media and internet spawns this type of stuff? 100% 100%. Yeah, 100%. And it is a new form. That's another thing you could say about podcasting too, [59:02] because before podcasting, no one thought that the time when you're driving or the time when you're at the gym is time that you could be entertained by something other than music, right? Most of the time, unless you're listening to talk radio, of course. But now the podcast thing is like you could pause it at any time, you could start at any time. So if it's an interesting podcast and you got a two hour road trip, now you're occupied. Now the road trip's easy because now you're driving, but now you're listening to some funny fucking shit and Joey Deez is telling stories and it's great. I mean, so this like this area of entertainment wasn't available. It wasn't being utilized before. And so what podcasts are really good for is it allows you to be entertained and occupied while you're doing other shit I don't think most people who consume podcasts just sit there and listen or sit there and watch I think a lot of times like maybe you're cooking and while you're cooking you got your earbuds in you listen into a podcast or while you're driving [1:00:01] Or while you're on the fucking treadmill and you're bored, you get to listen to some interesting shit. And I get a lot of messages from my friends that will tell me, oh, I was at the gym and I was listening to Shane, it was hilarious. You guys are killing me. Like that kind of stuff is, or, hey, this is guy, with that power plant, you Egyptian pyramid guy, you believe that? What do you think about that? I was at Now, freaking me out. So it gives you this opportunity for entertainment that didn't exist before. That's not completely useless, right? Like the scrolling for stuff, the guy catching marshmallows in his mouth, I'm not getting anything out of that. It's fun. It's interesting. It's kind of useless. But podcasts are not, you know, you do get to sit in on interesting conversations, you get to consider ideas that maybe you never considered before. So it wasn't available before. And because of phones, and because everybody has, it's so easy to get a podcast. Everybody has access to them. Do you listen to podcasts? Yeah, all the time. Are you going to them for comedy or more informational podcasts, what's your, what's your forte? [1:01:03] I listen to a lot of different podcasts. I listen to podcasts that are comedy podcasts. I listen to history podcasts. I listen to podcasts about science. I listen to podcasts about, you know, pretty much everything, hunting podcast, you know, which are very valuable. Hunting podcast, because hunting is, it seems easy. Like the idea seems easy to people. It's not. It's really hard. And there's a lot of things that people learn along the way on in their journey of hunting and they'll explain it to you. And so if you encounter that, I'll say, oh, Ravi Warren said, when you do this, be careful of that. Now that's in my head. It's a way to accumulate information. Yeah. And I listen to this Huberman. Yeah, he's great. And half of the stuff goes over my head, you know, like, he's hard. He's hard. You got to make, you even want to do podcasts with him. I have to make notes. I make notes, then I ask him afterwards and, you know, but he's very fact-based and he's a great guy too. I have to ask you to stop talking about here but a new place. [1:02:05] Do you ever have somebody come on the show where you're nervous to have them? Like, oh man, this is... Oh yeah, definitely. Like, who are you nervous to interview? Roger Penrose, Nobel Prize winner. He's just a brilliant mind and older, you know? So I'm like, how is this conversation going to go? How do I engage him? I don't want him to feel like he's wasting his time here, so I want to be prepared of good questions and I don't know how much the experience those guys have on podcast or how much an experience they have at all with comedians. You know, I don't want to fuck around too much. I just want to just get the most out of him that I can get. I just wanna try to massage his wheels and ask the right questions and be curious about all the right things and be informed enough to know what the right questions are. And what I'm actually, and also very fascinated by his research. So I really, it's like having an opportunity [1:03:01] to talk to such a brilliant person. You know, like he's done a lot of research in the big bang. He's got a very interesting thought about the big bang that he doesn't think the big bang was the beginning in the universe. And that's something that a lot of physicists are considering now. It's very fascinating stuff. The idea that the universe is eternal or much older than we think it is. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, you gotta be a chameleon. You got so many people different people coming in here. Yeah. You can accommodate the, you know, the doctors to what have you. And you gotta like adjust. You do have to adjust, yeah. To every different personality. It's just an art form. But it makes you more flexible as a person too. You can have conversations with all kinds of people. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's better. I like it. It's a lot better than the way I used to think before I started the podcast. You know, 2009 I was very close-minded. I was doing it just for fun. I mean, I was open-minded generally, but not like I am now. I wasn't aware of why I thought what I thought and what my biases are and why I think of things in certain ways instead of considering them from a broader perspective. [1:04:06] But when you do a podcast, you're kind of forced to do that because there's a lot of times, even if I agree with someone about something, I have to take the position of someone who's skeptical and ask them a question like, but what about this? So instead of just confirming them and us existing in an echo chamber, I'll try to offer consideration like, okay, but why? Someone could think of it this way. Do you think of it this way ever? Have you ever tried to think of it this way? And just like see, you know, how their brain works. Everybody's brain is, you know, they're different. You know, you have children. And one of the things you find out when you have children is, bro, right out of the box, there are different people. There are different people. It's fascinating. Because you, you know, you meet a kid and he's four, you're like, look at that smart kid. You know what, an interesting kid. But you don't, you didn't get to see that kid with his brother and his sister and all of them coming out of the same woman and going, this is all from the same father. Like this is nuts, they're totally different things. They have different personalities, different likes, different strengths, you know, it's [1:05:08] really interesting. Yeah, it's crazy to see, I mean, my daughter and my son, the differences between them. And you don't really notice it or don't really pay attention to it until you have kids of your own and you actually see it go, oh, this one's outgoing, this one's shy. Yes, this one likes piano, this one likes tea ball. So it's like, even me and my sister, you have brothers and sisters? Yes, I mean, my sister and I, although very similar, also very different, and it's really crazy as a parent to, and also you wanna to you know you want to give them structure you want to give them kind of the best things you grew up with from your parents and then put those you know give them to your kids as well but you also want to see them flourish in their own personality so you know the parenting thing is you know I take it extremely serious like I want to give I want to be there for my kids [1:06:06] I want to I want to I don't want to work so much where you know You know like even even coming to Austin, Texas for podcasts or going to Dallas for a show It's like yeah, you have to think about it. Yeah, it never used to think, I would be like, bookie, just get it, just bookie. And now it's more like, hey, you know, are we coming to this run? Are you guys gonna come to New York? We're gonna bring more families. That helps a lot. Yeah, that helps me a lot. If I could take my family with me. You know, I take them with me a lot of times on Vegasrips too. It's nice. Yeah, it's nice, especially now that the kids are getting older that could travel more. Also Vegas is a fun place to do stuff. You know, there's other stuff we could do before the fights. I don't know if you ever done escape rooms. You ever do escape rooms? No? No, escape rooms are fun. I'm claustrophobic. [1:07:07] And this just happened to me recently. Don't get that tank then. Don't get that sensory deprivation tank. If I could do that, it happened to me on an airplane. Oh, no, sitting at the window seat. It just overcame me. I get out of here. And ever since then, like I get I have to have an aisle seat. If I go to a theater and watch a show I have I can't be confined You just came out of nowhere. I didn't know where I had an airplane And I had to go in the back for two hours and hang out with the flight of tenants and like stand on rest of the the Wow, so did you tell them what was going on? Yeah, I said listen So did you tell them what was going on? Yeah, I said listen I'm freaking out I'm crawling out of my skin. I'm sitting next to two people. I feel like I'm trapped I can't get out so I'm very anxious now if I get out an airplane and Here's one okay, go out of there plane [1:08:01] Hey, hey to do this, but there's a family and the father's like, do you mind changing seats? So my daughter could sit next to me. I said, where's the seat? And he's like, it's the window seat. And I got, I can't go over there because I'm claustrophobic. And of course, he was looking at me like I was making it up because I would've. Right, you know, I mean, somebody told me that, I'm like, this fucking asshole, why don't we sit with my daughter? Right, but it's so bad where I just, I can't sit at the window. Well, he could always ask somebody else. You know, he could just ask someone else. Yeah, but you were by yourself. I feel like I'm, I feel like I let him down. Yeah, I'm sure he did. Yeah. I'm never that guy. I'm always very cooperative, whatever we need. Yeah, me too. I always move seats. Yeah. I'm always worried about other people freaking out. Like, there was a video that just went viral recently of some guy saying he was gonna take the plane down. Dude, the guy stood up and then, you see that guy, Jamie? I said about someone freaking out. I worry about another person that you're gonna have to deal with. [1:09:06] I feel though if somebody's freaking out. You think he stabbed people. Didn't he stab someone? He had like a little knife on him and he stabbed a couple of people. Yeah, he was saying that he was gonna take everybody out. Oh God. I feel if you're on an airplane and that's happening, you would be one of these guys that would handle it, right? Yeah, the problem with handling it is you're probably going to get sued and you might even get arrested and depends on how much damage you do. You could permanently damage someone. People are very flippant about beating people up but you could easily permanently damage someone. You could, people are very flippant about beating people up, but you, you could easily permanently damage someone. No, I believe me. I believe you can. I'm just saying you have that, I think that instinct, you know, like, what's the problem where I have more of an instinct of, is there a Joe Rogan on the plane? I was on a plane once the lady asked me if I would help her because these two guys were fighting one guy [1:10:06] Got in first and he put his briefcase Above this other guy seat and then he sat down and the guy who is right behind it goes. No, no, that's my spot That's my seat that spot over here's no, it's not it's first come first serve put it somewhere else It was open I put it in there and he goes, no, that belongs to my seat and then they started getting like belligerent with each other. It started getting like to the point like, oh my god, are these kids kind of fight in first class. And so then this fucking lady who is the the flight attendant she came in and told them both she was going to have the remove from the plane sit down and shut up and then she came to me and she goes, if anything goes down, you're going to help me, right? That was like, what do you want me to do? Because if I'm going to help you, it's going to get real messy. You're going to say that you said it was okay for me to do that to that guy? [1:11:00] Like, you know, I'm not going to, like, I'm'm not gonna play nice. If you're on a plane and you've gotta take someone out, you have a very short amount of mood. It's gotta be very violent. You gotta debilitate them. You gotta like take them apart right there. You can't like hope that you can hold onto them and then they relax, then what you go back to your seat, then I gotta, you gotta put them out. Yeah. You gotta, you gotta risk. You gotta risk. You know. As you're talking to me, I feel like you're going through a bunch of different moves of what you could possibly do. It's gotta be violent. If you're gonna, if you got a guy like that with a knife, you're not grabbing that guy. You're not just grabbing that guy and bringing him to the ground and holding him down. You're going to beat his fucking brains in. You're going to stop his body from moving. Because otherwise it's dangerous. Like you're in a position where you're being forced to use violence against some irrational, [1:12:00] possibly schizophrenic, who knows what the fuck's going on with this guy. He could kill everybody pastor stabs fellow traveler with weapon of pens and rubber bands on Seattle to Vegas flight Okay, so what's going on? Fashioned a handmade weapon before launching an unprovoked attack against a man seated across the aisle Yeah flying Flying used to be Look at his pen. He's so he developed up made a weapon out of his pens. He taught all his pens together and held on to them Wow, he said I Planned on attacking and killing him the defendant stated Jesus Christ Defendant felt the mafia had been chasing him the last few months. Yeah, so you go So he skits a phronic and you know, they don't have fucking scans for that when they bring them in I'll during the interview the defendant admitted to the FBI agents that he was trying to stab CR in the eye to reach CR's brain to kill him okay He was protecting a seven-year-old son [1:13:01] The victim's wife was also hurt in the attack because she was shielding the couple seven-year-old son. That's awesome. The victim's wife was also hurt in the attack because she was shielding the couple seven-year-old son, Jesus Christ, man. So this guy just decided that this guy was in the mafia, that was coming after him and he snaps and he wants to kill him. What's going on on airplanes? Why is there all this violence now? I think it's on airplanes. First of all, there's a lack of respect for authority that came with the whole defund the police thing. So there's like a people are more belligerent towards authority. So you have that. And then you have the general heightened level of anxiety of the population post COVID went up substantially. COVID fucked a lot of people's lives up. We got lucky. We were very fortunate. We make money. We were able to make money during the up. We got lucky, we were very fortunate, we make money, we were able to make money during the pandemic, we had enough money to be okay. A lot of people that's not the case. So so many people lost their businesses, so many people lost their livelihoods, so many people have a deep distrust for the government and the world now. And then there's this thing where people [1:14:02] are being coddled for being mentally ill, where you're almost like having a mental illness is something you can talk about. It makes you interesting. So I think people encourage mental illness. They encourage breakdowns, and they do it all the time in the real world, and so they think they could do it on fucking planes. And then you got genuinely mentally ill people who are just out of their fucking minds, who really shouldn't be out there in the world And you know they think the mafia's after them and they're making a fucking handmade shank while they're sitting in 16A You know the whole thing's nuts and it's just like I think people are just much more on edge right now than they've ever been before And I think a lot of it is a function of mainstream media. You're being fed every day. The worst shit that's happening in the world. Gaza, Ukraine, you know, the fucking ocean's boiling. Oh my God. What is happening? Putin's doing this and jeezing, paying his in control of that and the fucking borders open. Ah, fentanyl. Ah, you know, it's just like everyone's on edge. So you get all those [1:15:04] people and you stick them in a fucking tube tube and then you fly them through the air where there's no one that's really there's no authority figure on that plane there's these women these poor women or men or whoever they are that's flight attendants that have to fucking deal with these people and most of them are just regular people they're not mean they do have uh... those guys that hide undercover that are on planes occasionally what do they call those guys yeah what do they call them air marshals they stopped doing that all the security right to get the report all the security to get on the plane once you're on the plane no security yeah they got they got security i walk around whole foods making sure you don't steal an apple. Yeah, you're a 35,000 feet up and what, the flight attendant's gonna subdue a guy with pens, I mean. Exactly. And who's gonna get hurt along the way? What if he did stab that guy in the eye? [1:16:01] You know, like Jesus Christ. You know, even Mike Tyson got in a fucking fight on a plane. Some guy kept fuck with him, he turned around and beat the shit out of the guy. And now Mike's getting sued. I saw that. Yeah, I think I should go to, they should ship that guy somewhere where it's terrible. You gotta live here now. What's, what's, what'd you take on this Tyson thing? I go back and forth. I don't generally like the idea of 58 year old men fighting. It seems crazy risky at this point in your life. You're definitely going to be slower. You're definitely going to be, your reflex is going to be slower. You can't take shots as much. But I don't think that a 50 year old man today or a 58 year old man today is the same thing as what we thought of as a 58 year old man when we were kids because of hormone replacement. So because of nutrition, hormone replacement, science of recovery, and they've got Mike Tyson doing everything. He's doing all kinds of things. He's not a regular 57 year old guy. [1:17:01] And then you see him hit the pads and he go Jesus Christ man. I mean this is a terrifying human I mean he's Still fucking terrifying hitting the bag hitting the pads that he still has the ability to deliver those punches And if any one of those hits anybody they're fucked you're fucked. He's not it's not like of those hits anybody. They're fucked. You're fucked. He's not, it's not like his punches are, you know, 30% of what they used to be. They're like 80 to 90% of what they used to be. Yeah. Somewhere in that range, it's probably a little slower than he used to be. He used to be insanely fast. There's a video of Tyson hitting the bag as a 19 year old and he's throwing these combination. He's like, and he's throwing these combination like two hundred ten pounds two hundred fifteen pounds throwing combinations like sugar a lenders like it's it's insane to watch he was so fast and that was a big factor in his success he does not have that kind of speed anymore [1:18:01] but he's still fast is not slow joe i mean we're just we're just watching a 58 year old man. Crazy, right? Now, if you 30, 40 years ago looked at a fit. I was watching the, we are the world documentary, and I'm looking at the people. Kenny Rogers is in that, and I'm going, I'm probably 60 years old here, right? And I look at, it's 47. 47 years old in the, are the world so the the aging process has I mean No way 58 year. Yeah, it's guys 47. That's crazy younger than I am. That's crazy. He looks He's 10 he's 10 years younger than me in that video Yeah, yeah, so Yeah, the 58 year old man now. Look at you young ass Billy Joel. Tina Turner. Billy Nelson look young. Damn. Hold William Nelson there. I know. I know. 100. No. Holy is 90 now. I know how old is that. [1:19:02] 52 years old in that video. Is he really? Yeah. It's amazing. So you're right. 58 how old is it 90 52 years old in that video is he really yeah, it's amazing So you're right 58 years old is it's very different different what was forming when he came back 45 when you won the title 43 I think it was 33 or 36 when he was coming back and everybody was mocking him and then he beat Michael Moore when he was 45 years Old he's the oldest man to ever win the heavyweight title. And that was before, hormone, place, that's what I'm saying. I think Tyson is a 45 year old formant, no? Yeah, it's similar. I mean, formant wasn't as fast even back then as Tyson is now. Tyson's still faster, but he's smaller too. George is a very big man. George has enormous, he has hands that are like the size of cigar box. They're fucking giant fists, which is a big factor in punching power. This was George at 45 years old. And Michael Moore, who was a sensational light heavyweight, was kind of undersized as a heavyweight. [1:20:00] As a light heavyweight, he was a fucking assassin. But George caught him with a one, two, and put him out at 45 years in aweight he was a fucking assassin, but George caught him with a one two and put him out at 45 years in a fight he was losing. I mean Michael Moore was out boxing him But here here even at 45 you don't look at that boom You don't look like no Tyson at 58. No, right? No, he was much slower But George was always kind of slow. He just has thunderous power He was never like a real fast guy Like Ali or any of those other guys. He was just thunderous ridiculous power George was just terrifying and I don't know the ins and outs of boxing But is this Logan Paul is he a is he a legitimate boxer a legitimate boxer? Yes People mocked me when I was saying that before, but now I think people are coming around. And the way I look at it, I say if this kid was not a YouTuber, if he wasn't some guy that you knew from the time he was like 16 years old on YouTube, and you just saw him box, and you saw him knock out former UFC champions, you saw him beat legitimate boxers or beat athletes and beat a bunch of MMA fighters. [1:21:07] You'd go, this kid can fucking fight. He knows how to fight. Like, it's not, it's not, nothing he's doing looks wrong. He's not like sticking his head straight up in the air and winging punches to his eyes closed. He's fighting well. He looks good. And if he was just an up and coming boxer that was this exciting, like highly promotable, like really good at selling fights, he'd be like, this kid's the future. He's really something special. And the fact that he's willing to fight Tyson, even if Tyson's 57, just the fact that he's willing to actually take a chance at Mike Tyson not being able to do what he used to do. Because that's what he's doing. The gamble is, like, there's not a fucking chance in hell that Jake Paul would survive against the Mike Tyson that beat Marvis Frazier. You ever watched that fight? That's my favorite Mike Tyson fight. Because that was Mike Tyson [1:22:00] before he won the title. It was ABC Y World sports and Joe Frazier was had been talking shit about Tyson that was in his prime. He'd beat Tyson and so he had a son fight Tyson and it was an execution. It was an execution. Is that the one in Lanark City where it lasted one round? One round. Let's let's watch it because it's one of my favorite fights to watch Tyson because it's Tyson in his prime where he was fucking Terrifying he was so fast and he would do angles and he was bobbing weave and you couldn't hit him and he was just common at you And he was young. He was 20 years old at the time. He he was he couldn't be stopped No one had the solution and I I submit that that Mike Tyson the Mike Tyson won the title against Trevor Burbick the Mike Tyson that beat Larry Holmes I think that Mike Tyson is the best heavyweight of all time. I don't think anybody fucks with him. It just he didn't maintain that form and he wound up losing the bus to Douglas and you know, it's [1:23:01] I look at fighters when they're in their absolute prime. Like what, what did you, what have you ever seen that was better than this? And with Mike Tyson, I've never seen anybody better. I've never seen any fighter, even Ali in his prime, even Ali when he was cashless clay, I never saw anybody who looked like Mike Tyson in his prime. I think it just, you can't maintain the kind of focus that was required to be this guy Look, I mean marvelous looks fucking terrified and he should be Because he kind of knows I mean marvelous was a good fighter My marvelous was a good fighter, but this is just a terrifying mismatch Like if I had if I was a Vegas odds maker I would put this at a million to one. I'm like, he has to break his leg. Like he has to fall down and twist an ankle. Like otherwise, he's so Tyson was 20 and Frazier was 25. So do you think this is this is the last we see of a guy like a Tyson? Is there another [1:24:01] Tyson out there? Or is it they can always emerge. Combat sports always, so this is the beginning of the fight. Look, he's just moving forward. And Fraser's just trying to just bob and weave and find his openings, but Mike never gives you any time, man. He never gives you any time. He's always right in front of you. And he's just measuring you. And it's just a matter of time before he catches you. And here it is. Bim! Look at this. Oh wow. Oh wow, I, bro. He just puts him away. Just puts him away. It's an execution. It was just a matter of Mike Tyson closing the distance. This Mike Tyson, as fast as he was, as hard as he hits, I maintain he's the greatest. Yeah, I mean. The greatest heavyweight ever. Like that Mike Tyson those fights were you wanted to see executions. You didn't think anybody was going to beat him. Everybody he fought looked like they were about to die when they were in that ring. I don't I don't think we see this again, Joe. You never know. It can happen. Jake Paul's favorite. He's a favorite. Yeah. Well, he's 27 years old and he's a really good boxer. He's a very good boxer like he's a legitimate professional boxer [1:25:08] He fought Tommy Fury who's also a legitimate professional boxer a real good one He's you know, he's Tyson Fury's younger brother and he lost a close decision But it was a good fight a real good fight against a good fighter. He can fight. Yeah But if that Mike Tyson from Marvelvis Frazier fought Jake Paul, Jake Paul's dead. He's dead. He's not gonna make it. So you have to say how much has Mike Tyson lost from that 20 year old guy in the 37 years since then, which is, it'll be 38 by the time they fight. He'll have turned 58 by the time they actually fight. Yeah, but that's the best it gets, right? The best it gets. The best it gets. By 37 years, you gotta feel like it's, you know, yeah, he's lost some, but. He hasn't lost everything. He hasn't lost everything. Yeah, if you see him hit those pads. Absolutely. He has not lost everything. But he's lost like maybe just normal right. He's still not normal but he's still like a professional heavyweight boxer. [1:26:08] He's still terrifying. No I'm not saying he's not but I'm just saying even even coming off the best I still think he wins. You coming off it's hard to say because you never bet against a 27 year old fighting a 50 year old. I just what I have in my brain and I can't get out is that. You know, I'm saying like it's also his mind. You know, like Mike Tyson's mind has switched over into war. Like he was doing this interview and someone said to him, he goes, he goes, you look like you're in your 20s. Like what are you doing? He goes, I just eat raw meat. Cause I eat raw meat. He goes, you're eating raw meat? He goes, yeah, I'm eating raw meat. He goes, because that's what I'm gonna eat when I fight. I'm gonna eat him. It's raw meat. Yeah, he's like, Jesus Christ. He said this fucking mode. He's in that God of war mode and that he's still got that in him and I'm telling you if you keep giving that guy hormones [1:27:06] And you keep giving that guy supplements and you keep and he's constantly training his look at this I'm after eating that because my point will be raw meat my point of view on me. That's right. Do you think my point of view? Now, I saw the beginning of this interview where he had a shirt on, right? And he was sweating so much he had to take the shirt off. And they just put the microphone on his shoulder. Yeah. Bro, he's in Savage mode right now. He's in Savage mode. If I was Jake Paul right now, I would be shitting my pants. Oh, bro. If I'm fighting this guy and he sees me eating more on me, I call the fucking thing off. It's all the experiences that he has had as a conqueror. You have to take those into consideration. When a man has smashed men before, just smashed men. [1:28:02] Like when no one can stand in front of them. That is in his mind still. That's in there. There's a dark chamber in his mind that he can open up. And I think he's got it open. The question is can his body move along with it? But that part of his mind, like you're clearly seeing, he's terrifying when he's in the zone. I changed the shape of the table because of him. This table was, we had the table that was this size at the old studio and the new studio, I was like, maybe we'll make the table smaller. It'll be more intimate, it'll be closer to the guest. So we had Mike Tyson in when he was 300 pounds and he was just eating and having fun and smoke and weed. He goes, I don't even work out. He goes, if I work out, I'll excite myself. It'll excite my ego and then I don't like that person. So he just decided that he was just gonna be chill Mike Tyson. And then he got this offer to fight Roy Jones Jr. So he gets in insane shape. And the next time I see him, the second podcast we do, [1:29:03] Mike now weighs 230 pounds, and he's got these muscles in his forearms. So he's sitting there, and he's a different human. He's so intense that I was like, if this table was closer to him, I would be nervous. Like I wouldn't be able to do my best job as a podcaster. Literally, that's the reason why this table is this width is the second podcast I deal with Mike Tyson. Even Jamie, Jamie, when Mike left, Jamie's like, that's a different person. That's a totally different person, right? I was nervous the whole time. I was so glad I was close to the door. I'm hoping you were the first. So intense. He was so intense. And that was a fight with Roy Jones Jr. Where he just decided, you know, to have one more legends fight. And he got like, look at him. Dude, he's just, what the hell? What do you need to get an exciting? I'm serious. They might. Oh, you got both things playing at the same time. [1:30:00] Oh, that was so good. You had animosity towards so you could finally get your hands on them. Hey, um... What does it mean when fighting gets you wrecked? What does that mean? It's a good question. She means you're getting excited. Yeah. So that's going through your mind right now. Well that's how I get when I was a kid. And sometimes I get the Twinkle. The Twinkle. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like you reached a state as a human being, as a champion, as a ferocious fighter. You reached a state of ability and of accomplishment. The very few humans were, I don't know if you can hear him breathing. He's breathing. Yeah. It's like a line. It's like a line. When you're hitting the bag, when that heart's beating again, because I'm firing them up right now. You're Mike, mother fucking Tyson. So when you're doing all this shit again, you're still Mike Tyson. Those thoughts have got to be burning inside you again. It's got to be pretty wild. I don't know. It's, um, it's wild, but I believe it's rightfully so to be that way. [1:31:10] I don't think I'm massive, but I just don't have to deal with it. I don't let it overwhelm me. No, of course not. It's a strange conversation to have, because he was so focused and so intense, you know, it was almost hard pulling Conversation out of them and any time did you feel afraid? No, I'm always afraid with a brother guy Kevin Hart said if best he goes it's like being a room with a lion Jamie Foxill joke is like some of the people that loosen the room. They don't know who's it is because like some of the people that loosen the room, they don't know who's it is. Yeah. Yeah. And James got to play him in a movie, which is gotta be terrifying. Like don't piss that guy off. I never talk like that. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sir. I'm curious. I'm gonna watch the fight. We're all gonna watch the fight. [1:32:01] I'm gonna watch it. I mean it's brilliant move by Jake because like if he was gonna fight anybody else people would watch but with the same amount of people watched. No. No. This is the one and this is the one where the old heads are all sitting around like going. Oh well back in wait until he gets a hold of Mike Tyson boy he's gonna regret that. All the old guys are like pulling for him like come on Mike come on more, you got one more in you. Well, I think we see a different Mike Tyson than we did when he fought Roy Jones, right? I think the Roy Jones fight they made an agreement not the punch in the head. I'm pretty sure, because I watched that fight carefully many times and it never looked like he was targeting Roy's head, which makes sense why Roy agreed to the fight. I think they probably made an agreement. It would be like a real boxing match, but just don't knock me out. Because he Roy is a smaller person, much smaller. Roy was at his very best, he was 168 pounds. And then when he was weighing a 175 pounds, he didn't even have to cut weight. [1:33:02] He was playing. He Roy famously played a basketball game a full basketball game the day of his fight Played a basketball game and then went and boxed the face off of somebody for 12 rounds Wow, you know, that's how good Roy was in his prime, but Roy was 168 pounds in his prime. He wasn't Mike Tyson's size. Mike Tyson's fucking enormous. He's just a different mass. He's the width, the density, it's terrifying. And if they're older guys, I could imagine them making an agreement. Cause if you watch the highlights, Mike never punches them in the face. And even if they do punch each other in the face, it seems like it's just like jabs and small punches. It's almost like sparring shots. It's not like anybody's really winding up. You know? But really like throwing everything at it. This fight doesn't have that stipulation? No, I do not believe that's the case. I think this fight is going to be a real full bore, [1:34:00] 100% fight. It's not even an exhibition. It counts on their professional record. So it's a professional fight. It's not even an exhibition. The counts on their professional records. So it's a professional fight. Okay. Yeah. Is it eight rounds? Eight, two minutes rounds, but you're the judge. Yeah. They made it two-minute rounds because Tyson's old. And they were gonna do 16 ounce gloves with a down to 14, I believe. Is that the case? I think they're 14 ounce gloves, which is not much bigger than a regular glove. You know, regular gloves is 10 ounces in the heavyweight division, six ounces in lighter divisions. I think they use eight in some divisions too. But most like big guys use 10 ounce gloves. Yeah, it's, it's, again, talk about the change of entertainment, even in the boxing world. We interviewed Dana White on our podcast, and he's got them sure you're aware of the slapping thing, right? Yeah. Now, is that just, if I slapped you right now, [1:35:00] right, is that different than taking a punch? Not at all. No, it's terrible for you. Yeah, you do. They're basically agreeing to brain damage. They're agreeing to let each other get slapped in the head. Because you have to get slapped. You have to stand there and get slapped. And the only thing they could save you is if your slap is so good and you win the coin toss or whatever the fuck they do decide who slaps who first. Yeah. You slap that guy unconscious and then it's over. And that happens. Guys get slapped uncom... I mean, you're literally taking a full-on blow to the face. Your hand can hit pretty hard if you just think... think of that. Try doing that with your knuckles. It's hard to do. It hurts. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't hurt at all when you do that. You can slam. So you could really fucking slap someone. You know, guys have knock guys out slapping them many times. It's not hard to knock. You could KO someone. Boss Routin was one of the, you know, all time greats in MMA and he started his fighting in an organization called Pancrease. And [1:36:03] Pancrease in Japan, this was the early days, but like as the UFC was just emerging, they started doing fights with no gloves on, but they said instead of punching, you could only slap. So what boss Routin, he's got very flexible wrists. So he would pull his hands way back like this and he was basically just punching you with the palm of his hands. So he wasn't throwing them like you would think like a bitch laugh. He was throwing punches with his palms. He was uppercutting guys and not gonna unconscious with his palms. So that is what you're agreeing to. When you're standing in front of a guy and you're letting a guy whoop you in the head, you're agreeing to getting, you could easily get KO'd, easily get your job broken, easily get your eye socket shattered. Are these X, this is boss. So look how you see how you drop that guy with that palm strike? With the way he throws it, it's like a punch. Boss was a fucking animal. [1:37:02] He was an animal, like terrifying human being. Great guy, but man in his prime, he was just fucking animal. He was an animal, like terrifying human being. Great guy, but man in his prime He was just Destroying people. He was one of the first high-level strikers that made his way into Mixed martial arts and he eventually became the UFC heavyweight champion. Well, see what was the Kickboxer from Holland the motherland of kickboxing. Oh Oh yeah, some of the all-time greats came out Holland. Yeah, for whatever strange reason, it was like, it was a background of Kyokushin and a lot of them got into kickboxing and Muay Thai and there was a guy named Ramon Decker's. He was like to this day, one of the most legendary Muay Thai fighters of all times is dude who came out of Holland and went over to Thailand and just fucked everybody up You ever heard of Ramon Decker's show Ramon Decker's highlight reel he was like a mini kickboxing Mike Tyson Yeah, it's it was a monster because a lot of the guys that went over the Thailand they were bigger than the ties [1:38:00] But Ramon Decker's was the same size as the ties But he was just fucking ferocious. Look at this motherfucker. Bro, he kicked guys so hard that he shattered his ankle so many times that he had to get it fused. And his doctor was like, you have to stop fighting or you know, you're going to lose your foot. And he was like, yeah, yay, yeah, whatever. Just fucking bolt this thing down so I can get back at it again. I mean, his highlight reel is just fucking terrifying. It's just him mauling people. But these kicks, right? I mean, doesn't it hurt? The kicker as much as it does. No, not as much, but it definitely hurts. I mean, especially if you hit the in step on like an elbow or something like that. Yeah, but shins, shins are pretty good at tolerating pain. My joke, come on. I mean, I hit my shin on my bed frame, I'm down. [1:39:01] Yeah. That's just, well, you get conditioned, you know, you get conditioned to the part where you can... You can bang your shin against things, those can't even hurt. Don't these guys train on trees? Yeah, they train on banana trees. Fuck, it's a bad man. In Thailand, they'll do the kick banana trees. But banana trees are pretty soft. You can kick a banana tree. And they give out, they give a little bit when you hit them. It's not like a regular tree. I've never seen a banana tree. I've been around a banana tree in Thailand. I kicked one just to see what it was like. Cause I've seen a lot of videos of these guys kicking them. Yeah, it's not the worst thing to kick. It gives a little bit, so there it is. Cause it gives. See how it gives when he's kicking it? It's flexible. Like you could actually train on a banana tree. It's not a bad thing to train on. He's good at it right in half. Yeah, see it moves. It's really not that much different than a heavy bag. It just looks crazy because you're like, my god, he's kicking a tree. Yeah, yeah. But there's heavy bag. Like we have a heavy bag out there in. And that's just to condition your shins. That one's horrible. [1:40:06] That one you kick, it's like, oh, what are you normally? Usually it's cushioning, like there's foam, and then it depends on what the stuffing is. Sometimes they stuff it with rags and cloth and stuff like that. And the whole idea is it's really packed down tight and it's heavy, so it's like 130, 150 pounds. And it's long and you can do leg kicks on it. But the sand one is just hard as a rock. It's just thud, thud. And you do that just to condition your shins. That's the one you practice on just to condition yourself. Yeah, I wish I could do some of this stuff with the... I've always wanted to get into a fighting, just for self-defense. But I have detached my biceps. So I have holes in my arm. I have no biceps. Well, I have a bicep, but just not the short one is gone. How did you touch? [1:41:01] Poke up and no biceps. What? Really? Yeah. Nothing happened? There's no trauma that I kid pin point that this happened. Now I have kids, I was putting them in the car, maybe a kelp from them. No, it didn't feel nothing. Really? Looking in the mirror one day and I know, I brought my wife over and I go, is there a hole in my arm? It's not. No, I show you. Let me see. Oh wow. I've seen guys have that before. My friend Matt Sarah has that. He is like, his bicep, when he makes a bicep, like half of it is missing. Okay. Matt Sarah's a fighter?led up on one side. Matt Sarah's a fighter? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a comedian. Yeah. And I gotta hold it my arm. That is hard. But you have most of your bicep. Yeah, but that's an underside too. Same side? That one, did you go to a doctor? Yeah, he says, and nothing you could do about But he said it's detached. What's going on? [1:42:05] And you don't know why. No, I'm not. Both. So then I'm thinking do I got some weird Mediterranean type disease where like, shit starts detaching? People from, my dad's got it. Really? But he put a luggage and overhead compartment, that's what his snap, his bigger bicep is living in his, his elbow. Oh, Jesus. And you still get that fixed Compart and that's what his snap his bigger bicep is living in his is elbow. Oh Jesus and You should get that fixed if you do it right away right away. I didn't catch it right away So it seems like with you there was no trauma. No, it doesn't even make any sense No sense everybody I know that's done that like it's usually boxing or Jiu-Jitsu or lifting weights or something like that It's painful as fuck instantly There's a video of a guy doing curls and as he's doing curls his biceps snaps and curls up You see like it's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. And I've heard the same thing But it's painful, but I have no pain no nothing. Well, it doesn't seem like it affects your range of motion either No, there's no you can do everything. There's no problem [1:43:02] But now I'm thinking can I even work out the bicep? Because I'm afraid that one's gonna snap. No, you should, because if you don't, the bicep is not gonna be strong enough to do the extra work that's required missing that other one. Yeah, definitely, you're fine, you're fine. Yeah, you could do everything. You just gotta get strong. Just strengthen all the surrounding tissue, you're fine. What's the ads of a guy who doesn't really do any strenuous, no tennis, no nothing like that? To lose both of his biceps, right? By 50. Right. And now I got it in my head that everything's gonna fall apart. Everything's gonna snap. Yeah, but you haven't lost your biceps. Your biceps are there. It's like whatever that other thing is, that attaches, that's not there anymore. But I don't think you need that. I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry about it. I legitimately, I wouldn't worry about it. I would just start working out. I would just like get really into like strengthening everything around it. That's right. [1:44:05] Especially since you can't fix it. Can't fix it. But Matt does everything. I mean Matt is a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu and his biceps weigh worse in years. His is pulled all the way up to the top. So like at the bottom, like when you make a muscle like this part, he doesn't have this part. Yeah. It just flat. Yeah, it's meant to. And it's like a little bit up here. I've seen a bunch of people who have that. Okay. That's a common thing. Yeah. I'm just shocked that it happened so early in life. It doesn't make sense that it didn't hurt at all. That seems weird. Strange. But you seem like you have full range of motion. Yeah, no, no, I'm not. I'm active. No way man. I used to love biceps. I'm a palliant. They're still there. But listen, along in a mirror, with the shirt off. You don't like it? No. You used to love doing biceps like that. You love to look stereo-self? Yeah, doing biceps. That was my favorite exercise. [1:45:03] It's a thing. And oh yeah. I literally never do that. And never do biceps. Ever. Well, the growing up, that's what we always just do. Like 20s, 30s, 40s. You're doing it in a bice. Right. Curls for the girls. Curls for the girls, man. And now I got holes in my arm. I don't think it'll affect you. I bet you can still do bicep curls, no problem at all. I bet your biceps will grow. I don't think it's a problem. I don't think it's a problem. Okay. I don't know what happened. I don't understand it. It seems weird. And maybe it felt like it happened when you were way younger. You just didn't notice it. Maybe you got It's just a dramatic aesthetic, I mean, aesthetically you would have... So you just noticed it one day? One day doing my hair. Weird. Dropped my arms, looked in the mirror. Ha ha ha ha. I thought it was a shadow from the things. Oh yeah, it must be a shadow, but no, it's a... There's a hole. So a hole. And I didn't catch it in time, and now I'm walking around with no biceps. That's so strict. But you do have biceps. Well, yeah, I miss in one of those things. [1:46:06] One of the big biceps. You didn't need it, obviously. I wasn't using it. Fell apart. It's like an appendicitis. Yeah, it's like this guy isn't even fucking interested in this muscle. It's just quit audio. Do you have a trainer? Yeah. So how often do you work out? I do about three or four days with the trainer and I do two days Pilates. Oh nice. Which has helped my sciatica. So I started three months ago. I have a sciatica two and a half years affecting everything including my comedy because I'm physical. I like to move but the pain was relentless. Mm-hmm. And I'm like I gotta I didn't want to get the surgery. Was it a dissect to me that they're trying to get you to do? It was relentless. Mm. And I'm like, I gotta, I didn't wanna get the surgery. Was it a dissact to me? They were trying to get you to do? It was spinal. I don't know what exactly, because I don't listen. And I don't know anything as far as like the research. Right. The guy told me what it was. I'm like, okay, well, I went here on the other way. Right. But But stenosis of the spine that's what is happening and whatnot. So and some L3 L4 [1:47:07] You know what you need to get that will help you a lot a lot. There's a thing called the the decks It's it's one of those Teeter products where you you hook your legs this thing and you lean your body forward You know those ones you hang by your ankles those are good those are really good They're great for a lot of reasons but this one is my favorite for low back decompression. This thing right here. We have one out there. I'll show it to you. It's called the DEX-2. It's an inversion and core training system. But the thing that it does the best is when your legs are supported, you know, you can do like back extensions and stuff on it, but I really don't use it for that. Mostly what I use it for is just decompressing. So I get on it and all your weight is now on your thighs, and all the weight of your upper body from your hips down is just decompressing. And you feel it pop, like I'll lie in it and it goes, [1:48:02] pop, pop, pop, pop. Like I'll feel it decompressed. It's amazing. I love it. And it also, you can do back extensions when you're on that same incline, and it's really good for strengthening those muscles. And also sometimes that helps me loosen them up even more. I'll do a set of back extensions on it, and they'll really like deeply relax and let it pop and all right yeah decompression of the back and spine is very important that's why yoga is so good because you're stretching and decompressing things and if you're tight and then everything's tight as you get older like you just keep shrinking you know that's what happens to old people they're fucking the space in between their spine goes away and then they get this hunch and then they're immobile you don't want to be immobile. No. No. And I felt like there was this lagre. Pilates have definitely changed my life. Pilates is amazing. They're very, very good for that. Yoga, very, very, very good for that. Anything you're using your whole body like that, you know. And for a lot of people, there's a lot of contributing factors that lead to sciatica. There's tightness of the hamstrings. There's tightness of the upper quads [1:49:07] that also affects your lower back and compresses everything. When I have back pain, one of the things that I do is I sit on my heels and I lean all the way back. So with my legs bent and it really stretches out my upper legs, my thighs, my quads. And when I do that, I feel it in my lower back. Like I feel my lower back relaxing. Like I feel stretching out. And then I'll do a bunch of other different exercises like that, but that's what keeps me from having that pain. Yeah, the importance of stretching, I found this. Huge, huge. It's huge and everybody's lazy. Nobody wants to stretch. Even me, even when I get done with the workout, I'm like, I could stretch, I should stretch, but I wanna go eat. And sometimes I'll just go eat, but most of the time I stretch. And when I do, I always feel way better. Like before a big show, I always stretch. Always. In the back? Yeah, I just lay down on the floor and start stretching. And when I do that, I was like, everything just feels better. Because the physical tension that you carry in your body, [1:50:06] if you can mitigate some of that, you just feel a little looser. You get out there, you feel loose. It's just age really cropped up on me. It's a mother fucker. Really cropped up on me. It's a mother fucker. So I'm doing all I can to kind of combat that. How Goldie now? 50. When you see guys that are 50 that don't take care of themselves, though, you see the difference? That's scary. That's scary when a guy's never taking care of himself and then he's 50. And you're in a state of total, I could pull your arm apart. I could just grab your arm and pull it away from your shoulder socket. There's nothing keeping that thing in there. Like you just, you made out of jello. Your body doesn't have any need to be strong because it never gets used. So your body just deteriorates. And this like sunken lump. And now you're in pain all the time. And now you got problems all the time. Now you don't even fucking energy to do things that you wanna do. For me the whole thing is mitigating mental illness, [1:51:03] like mitigating anxiety and stress and anger. Get that out, clean your mind out, and then make sure you have energy. The only way you can get things done is if you have fucking energy, especially like writing. Like, if you don't consider writing a physical health thing, but if you're tired, you're not gonna write as good. You're not gonna have the enthusiasm, you're not gonna have the energy. It's like for everything you need energy. And there's only one way to get that. You have to have a healthy body. You have to. It's like a part of the job. It should be a part of the job. I tried to have the fact comedians. I'm like, I know you're great. But look, we lost Patrice when he was in his 40s. If Patrice was alive today, he'd have the number one podcast in the world Patrice was alive today. He'd be selling out arenas. We've lost him because he just didn't take care of himself That's it. It's the only reason why no, it's super important not only for the comedy But even looking at my kids now I'm an older father so I want to do those things with my kids whether be skiing right [1:52:00] I had fun. They went skiing where we went skiing in December and Right, they went skiing where we went skiing in December and my wife loves skiing and of course I'm at the fucking bottom of the hill waiting for the I'm I'm pitch I'm you know what I've become or was becoming say hi to daddy You know like we go to Disney like they're on the rides. You don't do the rides. Oh, fuck no, I never though I throw up in my lap of the booties rides. Really? Yeah. All of them? Yeah. No space mountain. So fun. I got a week's stomach. claustrophobia, no biceps and... At fear of rollercoaster. It needs to be a lot worse. No, I'm fine, I'm fine. Yeah, I complained for the sake of comedy. I know, but I'm blessed. Yeah. You're back out here in August, what are you doing in August? [1:53:02] I'm doing the Moody Center. Nice. Moody Center. Nice. Moody Center. That's a great, great venue. I've never been there. I heard it's brand new, but it's so good. Yeah, it's amazing. It's an amazing venue. Yeah, it's, this is a great town for comedy right now. There's a lot of, a lot of didn't get out here to do it, but I definitely wanna do the ship of here great things about it. Yeah, next time you head down, come by, hang out with us for a couple of days. We do shows Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, or my shows, and this shows seven nights a week. Great, yeah, I wanna make it more of a meal next time I come out. Yeah. This is kind of an in and out thing. I want to utilize the, I want to see if I get in the tank. Yeah. Yeah. Are you good? No, maybe maybe. You want to take an edible first? I want to really do it. Yeah. No. You know what? Baby steps. I want to do an edible, but I want to, like, I know some people come in here and go, hey, you got an edible, like, don't do that. [1:54:06] I can't do anything unless they do a pest run at home. Right, right. So, whatever you got here, what is this, Rogi? What is this? These are just nicotine. Oh, that's nicotine. What's the good, I'm looking to get into maybe an edible every now and then. Well, California is the perfect place to do it because you can get those nice 10 milligram edibles. 10 milligram, you eat the whole thing. Easy. We try five, just try five, eat half of it. And what is this, is this the type of thing where you're like, oh, hey, this is great, or is this the work? Or deep paranoia, depends on how much I don't need to be paranoid Go down dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark I think I think about the solar flare You heard about the solar flares? There's a solar flare that is supposed to reach us on the 10th and the 11th To some mass coronal ejections that could play havoc with our communication systems or satellites [1:55:02] Could you shut down the power grid if one's big enough? You haven't heard about this? Don't come on like I mean communication systems or satellites, could you shut down the power grid if one's big enough? You ever heard about this? Don't come on like I mean. I barely heard about this. A friend of mine who's actually a legitimate scientist, actually warned me about this. He said it's really strange that we're not being told about the potential impact of this. Earth prepares for solar storm impact from three CME cm this weekend. Solar activity has reached high levels in the past 24 to 36 hours with background flux at or near M10. I don't know what that means. The most significant developments from the sun include the growth and merging of regions 3664 and eight, as well as the production of numerous M-class solar flares and two X-class solar flares from what CME is coronal mass ejection that are expected to arrive at Earth this weekend. Joe, no, keep this up there. [1:56:01] If this was me and you sent me this article, so read this about solar flares. You know, would it turn me off right from just visually? Three, six, six, four, three, I see that in a paragraph, I ain't reading it. Just the numbers alone, the regions. Yeah, I'm the opposite. Whatever you read just now, didn't even register in my head, couldn't even comprehend it. Did you get any of that? For me, what I got is a deep respect for these people that are not just watching the sun, but they've made regions of the sun. So they can refer to these specific regions where this solar activity is taking. Yeah. So I was saying, the 10th and the 11th, that's what my friend was telling me. X2.23b flare. He was actually concerned that his wife is going to be out of town while this was happening. He's like, you should have food and you should be prepared. Yeah, despite this, go back up. The region continued to produce optical flares, radio bursts, and an isolated emclin. [1:57:00] That's one of the craziest things about the sun. The sun is not static. It's like, it's like, it's all over the place. It's got these giant ejections that happen that could cook our satellites. And in the past, before we had the kind of infrastructure that we have today, there was a big mass ejection, I think that they recorded in the 1800s that like took out communications for whatever they had back then. You know, I like the sun, Joe. You like a tan? Beautiful tan. Are you a beach guy? Do you like going on beach on vacations? I love the beach. Little margarita, sit there. A little margarita, a little Mexico beach. Fine. Sit down and my kids build a little sand castle. Go in the water. Mexico makes me nervous. Do you hear about the surfers that just got killed in Mexico? Why, why do you gotta ruin a job? They found them in a well. Shot in the head in the well. They stole their car. Shot them in the head and threw them down a well. I'm at the beach with a margarita and you're in a well with three [1:58:07] gondons. Why do you got to root the visual for the joke? Come on. I mean I don't know what happened to these guys but shit go. Yeah, you can go sideways. When you're in Mexico, no, Mexico surf or death, man charge charge confessed to girlfriend. Oh wow. Kill these two dudes over a car. Their bodies are found dumped in a cliffside well six days after they disappeared each with a gunshot to the It's terrible. There's shit. There could yeah, there was a fourth body that had been there longer was Unconnected to the case. All right. There goes their spot. There goes the family trip to Mexico. That's their spot is unconnected to the case. All right, there goes the spot. There goes the family trip to Mexico. That's their spot. Most of the time people go to Mexico, it's no worries at all. Yeah, no, I went down there once and I was worried and I saw Holly Berry there. I'm like, oh, she's here. No, I'm not worried. Yeah. I feel like she's gonna Holly Berry anywhere. It's like, it's okay I don't know. [1:59:07] Mexico worries me though, but it's just like it's controlled by the cartels. The country's essentially controlled by the illegal drug market. So you would not go to Mexico. I've gone to Mexico. I love Mexico, but it is what it is. It's a different kind of sketchy. And they're generally protective of tourists. Generally, you know, they don't want to come. They don't want to fuck. And then the government will come down on them if someone kills tourists. It could happen on Wilshire Boulevard. It will happen on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles. That's why I don't live in Los Angeles. I know. Yeah. Many can happen anywhere really. Anywhere now. But Los Angeles is a higher likelihood of shit going sideways. Yeah. No, I agree. What's it like? What's it like? You enjoying it? There's been many of conversations over dinner. What are we doing here? Yeah. I'm sure you went through that prior time. Well, I know you looked out here for a little bit. I looked out for a good time to look. Yeah. Now That is a lot of great houses that are available. A lot of money came here, a lot of people came here, [2:00:06] a lot of building got done here. There's a lot of, I have a great real estate agent if you're still interested. The growth is exponential. The quality of life is fantastic. It's much better. Okay. But I got off the airplane. The heat. And I was sweating right out of the gate can't take that I don't know I don't like heat I don't like heat you don't like heat. I don't like humidity So that is a big big factor Of moving anywhere whether it be Florida, Texas Los Angeles gets pretty fucking hot dude It does get hot. I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm just saying this is like a different kind of heat for me. It's a wet heat. It's uncomfortable. It's better for your skin though. But maybe. And we've often tossed around to his Los Angeles to place for us. [2:01:00] But with me is I got a family there. I got my mother there my sister's there. What about San Diego? No, no big San Diego really no. I love it down there. I love Florida. Florida's great to talk about there I have family in Naples hot as fuck hot as fuck though. Yeah hotter than here Yeah, I feel like if you go to one of these places that people are dumb or two their dumb or in Florida Yeah, they Okay, generally. They're some brilliant people in Florida, they don't get me wrong. But I would, if you know, if you had to do like a statewide IQ test, it might be disturbing. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. A lot of people escaped to go to Florida. Florida is a place where people ran from their past. I just feel like if I go to Florida, I'm running from paying an exorbitant amount of money in taxes. That's true too. And quality life might be better. It would be better. And that's Texas too. Texas does enough state taxes either. California has 14%, which is insane. [2:02:01] It's insane. It's so high. This morning I took a beautiful walk Along your what is this a river you guys? Yeah running through the city bird lake. Yeah, lady bird lake right right about the bats Yeah, and at a night and just let people hello. No, it's night. It's a it's a nice vibe out there. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna lie but I'm rooted over there. So I was rooted too. Yeah, I gotta have, I'm rooted over there. So I was rooted too. Yeah, I know. Yeah, but it's not worth it. It's not worth it to be rooted in a place that sucks. I understand. It's just the conflict of feeling like, why am I still here? I don't have any of that here. I had that feeling for a while in LA, even before the pandemic, like do I really need to be But I just didn't know another way to do it. It was like there's no other way to do everything that I want to do Podcast comedy. I mean LA. This is like I guess is where I live from the time you started to think about moving to the time you moved What was what was that year twice? I've been thinking about it for a long time. You know, I lived in Colorado for a little bit in 2009 [2:03:03] But I had been thinking about it for a while, but it didn't seem possible. But then when the pandemic hit, it was like, okay, the whole world is different now. Now you gotta move. You gotta get the fuck out of here, because LA was going sideways. And I am of the opinion that once things start going bad, it takes a long time, especially in a Democrat controlled state. Takes a long time for things to turn around. If they turn around at all, and everybody has this idea, oh, this is LA, LA's like that. I'm like, no, it's not like that anymore. They're burning cop cars to the military, looting businesses, they're letting people do it. There's smashing grabs, they're just telling you, you can't shop after 6 p.m. This is madness. We gotta get the fuck out of here. That was my take. My take was like, this is not the same LA anymore. You don't stay in your house while it's on fire, just because like, Pove it, but it's my house. No, it's on fire. You gotta get out. So that was my take. And the family was on board? Yeah, they loved it. Well, the kids The kids were young enough, you know, my youngest were 10 and 12 when we came here and we got [2:04:05] them to my real estate agent. She's brilliant. She took us to the lake and the girls were on a boat. We were all hanging out, we were jumping in the water together and swimming and people listening to the fucking Leonard Skinner and people were singing and drinking and it was like, everybody's having fun and there was no masks. Whereas in LA, everyone was like terrified and locked down and so this was in May of 2020. We were only, there was only two months in the pandemic and I was already trying to get out. And then by August, I was already here. It was like, fuck you guys. And then by October, Dave and I started doing shows. We started doing shows at Stubbs. And then November, we started doing indoor shows here, like Jesus Christ. It was, and then it was crazy. And then the influx, everybody started moving here. Scora moved here, Tony Hinchcliffe moved here, Brian Simpson moved here, Derek Poston, Asana Mott, [2:05:00] they moved here, William Montgomery moved here, Ron White was already here, Duncan Trussle moved here, Tim Dillon moved here, it's just started getting crazy. Joe DeRosa just got a spot here, Joey's coming next week. It's been amazing, but it had all those things had to take place in the exact right order. It's almost like you had to hit every green light on the road. Just all the things had to happen the right way to be able to happen. Yeah. To make what actually took place. It's kind of crazy. It is not that this place, I mean, I just looked around the city, I mean, the amount of buildings that are going up is crazy. The only thing I do see, do you think the infrastructure of the city can withstand the amount of people here, like the roads and the traffic? They're doing work on that. They're expanding things. There's gonna be growing pains for sure. There's obviously a lot more traffic now than there was 10 years ago, but it had always been growing. Because I remember, my business honest on it was out here, and so we were coming out here for on it, and every time I'd come out like over the years I'd notice like traffic was picking up more and more before the pandemic you know so [2:06:08] but then during the pandemic obviously there was a massive flux of people like we're getting the flock out of California and that was the the biggest factor. I'm not arguing with you Joe it's a great move. I know it just takes you you have to decide because no no place is gonna be like oh my god This is perfect. Yeah every place is gonna come with a thing But this thing is like also like way cheaper. It's way cheaper to live here Yeah, you get more for your money if you're trying to buy a house and your state taxes are non-existent Which is just way better? Because because like if California was perfect and I had to pay a lot of money, but they kept the streets clean and there was no crime and everybody's having a good time and there's great schools and great social programs like this feels good. I'm like, yeah, I'm spending a lot of money in taxes, but man, I live in a fucking utopia. [2:07:01] I love it. It doesn't feel like that at all. It feels like you're getting fucked by people who tell you they're gonna fuck you and they have to fuck you. And if you don't want to get fucked, you're a part of the problem. Yeah. Like, oh, okay, I gotta get out. I don't feel like that here though. I don't feel like that here. I don't feel like that when I'm in Nashville. I don't feel like that when I'm in Florida. I think there's parts of this country that haven't lost their fucking minds. And people gravitate towards those parts, where people realize, hey, there's some real need for law and order. There's some real need for rules. There's some real need for, you know, you kind of have your fucking ducks in a row. You can't let psychos take over the school systems to teach nonsense. Like there's a real, there's a good mixture. And I think Austin's the best mixture because it's a liberal city. It's a very, very progressive city that's surrounded by ranchers. It's surrounded by fucking people in the small towns that are all, you know, driving pickup trucks [2:08:02] and shooting signs. And it keeps everything balanced. It's a nice nice balance here because even the most liberal people here They're so much more reasonable than liberal people that I would meet in LA Liberal people in LA were cult members and they felt like if you weren't on their team You are some kind of a Nazi and you know, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. You definitely should lose your job You are some kind of a Nazi and you know, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. You definitely should lose your job. It's a tough place to live, Joe. I'm not gonna argue with you. When you come back in August, I'll take you around. And it'll be a good time to know if you hate it because it'll be hot as fuck. Oh yeah, no, it's kinda gonna burn my skin on. August is gonna be sweaty and hot, but it's beautiful. And the food. Ooh, there's so much good food here, Sebastian. There's so much good food. So much good food. Now I come back where we'll do a proper Austin run. All right, do it for a few days. Do you got anything to tell people about? Got a major tour, July 11th called the In-Ait-Rite tour. [2:09:02] In-Ait-Rite? A lot of stuff in Los Angeles. Right. So that starts to my level in the North fork for ginia and currently shooting bookie. Oh yeah you're on a show with a Chuck Laurie show. Chuck Laurie show on Max which were in our second season we're shooting that and who's in that with you? Omar Dorse's in it Andrea Anders Vanessa for lead I've heard good things about it. I heard it's great show really fun show. I want to watch it Yeah, it's so it's on max. It's on max. We have eight episodes on there right now and nice we're filming Well, that got Chuck Laurie that fucking guy's done it all. Hits, bro. Hits, gay butt. Nothing but Hits. My family's addicted to the Big Bang Theory right now. So my youngest, my wife and I watched the Big Bang Theory. I've watched like a hundred episodes over the last four months. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Fucking great. I underestimated that show tremendously, because I had seen clips online, I'm like, this show sucks. And then you watch it, this is a funny show. It's a really well made show. Really great writer. And you know, I don't, this is my first [2:10:11] TV series. So to have this guy. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So I did a pilot years ago with Tony Danza playing my dad and I've never got off the ground. How is it like being Tony Danza? Oh great. It's a group of Tony dads a taxi and I was the boss and I If you played my dad and he was really really good, but that was a network show and never picked it up And I'm making for camera like multi-camera sitcoms anymore. Yeah, that works. I don't know about networks but miss Pat miss Pat Yeah, she's got a multi-cam. Okay, but I mean you any network tell like what is on like network tv unlike thursday night now what's that is it all like the bachelor show yeah i think that kind of shit reality may be dating shows game shows reality shows yeah [2:11:01] uh... but yeah not used to be all sitcoms used to be all sitcoms you know you were part of that world. Well, that's why watching the Big Bang Theory make me say, like, I enjoy sitcoms. It's a great way to consume entertainment. You don't see them anymore. Yeah. Look at this again, man. The next on the show is my wife. Karen. So it was like a talk to camera. Oh, so I would do will talk to camera and I'll add pop back into the scene So the talk to camera from me would kind of was like oh, I could show my comedy a little bit here And then I go back into the scene, but yeah, man I want to see it comes are gonna come back I hope they do if networks are smart that put together some multi-cam sitcoms because there's it's a fun art form. It's still a fun way to consume humor. Yeah, it is. And it'll come back. Okay, back. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know either. We'll see. We'll see you in the evening. Maybe. And also I have a podcast, Pete and Sebastian show, which we're now, to say how to Pete for me. I haven't talked to Pete forever. Pete's a good dude. I can't believe that you said before I saw you here today that I haven't seen you in four years. [2:12:07] Five. Is it really five? 2019 I believe was the last time I was on your show. But I've seen you since then. I don't think you've seen you at the store. I don't think it's 2019 I think. But before the pandemic I think I saw you. Yeah that was 2019. Yeah five years ago. Yeah almost. It marked I'd definitely haven't seen you out here as my first time. Right out here. But I want to tell you congratulations on all your success. Thank you. Even walking through this place before I came in to know like you know I saw you at the commie store hanging out in the parking lot and now you a, now you're floating in a tank in your own warehouse, tumble-oom. Like, congratulations to you too, because I remember when you first started, I really do. I remember your first struggles at the store. Oh, yeah. And I remember I saw you, I was in Vegas, I was working in Vegas, and I was in my hotel room by myself, flippin it to the channels, and I saw your special. And I think it was a showtime special. [2:13:05] And I remember tweeting it, like, it was fucking great. No, it was great. You actually reached out to me and said, hey man, this is really good stuff. It's funny, Eleanor Carrigan, I was on a podcast and something sent it to me and she's like, oh my God, it's a special. It was awful. Just like that. Awful when he first started. Everybody at the comedy store knew it. They're like, how did this guy get past? And I'm sitting there listening to this going, fuck, I didn't even, like, I didn't think I was bad. You know, like, it's funny, like what you think you are and what people are saying. I didn't know any of that. I thought, oh, no. Well, the problem was you started out as an open micer at the comedy store in Los Angeles Which is crazy. Yeah, that's like learning how to play football with the Giants Yeah, like it's nuts like that just the idea behind it's nuts like it's a very very difficult way to break in the comedy And so everybody's terrible in the beginning if they've seen me six months in there. Oh my god [2:14:05] He fucking sucks like how did he get past seen me six months in there. Oh my god. He fucking sucks Like how did he get past I know but to hear it. Oh, yeah, it was like oh No, I did and not to even know you suck Like I knew I was like learning but I was like I didn't know people were like this guy should be pumping gas So you know, you know what I don't know if you've ever had this on your podcast of what, what do you guys, North of like, 2500 episodes here? Something like that. I drank way too much water, right? Before the podcast? During. Oh, so you got a pee right now, real bad. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I see your face. We can wrap this up. The tour, all that. Where can the people find the information? SebastianLive.com. Get your tickets to the floor. Get your tickets. It's gonna be, and I can't give anything away, but I'm into a lot. [2:15:02] I like production at my shows. Not only the comedy comedy but the experience. So we got some surprises under. Nice. And coming to Austin, Texas. When is that August 9th? August 9th. If I'm here, I'm there. All right. I would love to see it. Great to see you again. And congratulations to all your success too. It's been beautiful to watch. Thank you. Very, very, very very very happy for you. I appreciate it. You have a me on your show. My pleasure brother. Anytime. Next time it's not wait for years. No. Come back. Come back in August. We'll do it again. Alright. Appreciate you brother. Bye everybody.