#2004 - Ice Cube

Eight hours a day he just bringing he bringing Snoop like a hundred blunts in a bag here you go Snoop he's the one dude that's exempt anywhere he goes no one's gonna fuck with Snoop with weed he smoked weed at the White House yeah he said he went in the bathroom and got down I said oh man you know I said yeah you know he blazed anywhere you know church swimming pools he inside the pool blazing underwater he's got a card you can just let him slide yeah yeah he Snoop you know what you gonna say what are you gonna say it's gonna say man everybody loves the same thing with Chappelle when we go to without with Dave David just fire up in a restaurant hey man you know you in the house nobody what they gonna say dude I mean who wants to be part of his next comedy special the person that told Dave Chappelle you came blaze in a Ruth Chris well hey man thank you very much for being here I really appreciate you want some coffee now thanks for having me you know I probably had too much coffee yeah today you know I mean I probably had about two cups already so I should be cool till this afternoon so I saw this video where you said you're doing just a podcast tour yeah I'm gonna hit everybody you know everybody I want to talk to me you know I'm saying I just want to be able to get the message out to the people talk to the people you know I've been trying to push push my league and mainstream sports media have really you know basically ignored what we doing why I think that is I think they're nervous about the NBA they're nervous about their relationship with the NBA could be damaged if they promote the big three I would think it would help everybody yeah I mean it's basketball in the summer you know they got the WNBA but we really don't play at the same time you know they got the games we got our games I and you know what's what's crazy is we got there you know former Hall of Famers as a part of this league and they wanted to be a part of this league so it's not like we hijacking them or we yeah you know kidnapping them they want to be a part of this league they wanted to be successful and they want to make money in the summer so I don't know what what the NBA is thinking about trying to deprive dr. J and Rick Berry and Iceman George Garvin a little check in the summer what like what's the problem yeah it doesn't seem like it would compete at all it seems like it would enhance it would make it's when you have more basketball for basketball I mean basketball fans they have a season and this when it's over it's over yeah the fact there's more basketball seems to me but I'm a person it's like I feel like there's enough pie for everybody with everything I feel like that with fighting with MMA when there's a new organization comes out I'm like good good give people more opportunity to make money without a doubt you know and this it's about who do it the best and we're not trying to compete in any way shape or form with the NBA we're very complimentary so I don't understand why they would you know do some of the things that's being done behind the scenes that well they're like encouraging people to not do it encouraging people to not sponsor us I mean like really yeah I mean encouraging networks not to play us really yeah those things we've been able to survive but you know at a certain point it's just redundant and ridiculous and we got to fight back some way shape or form it just in my mind it seems silly it seems like it only enhance but that's what happens when you get big corporations man yeah and you know what Joe it's not the players it's not the owners it's not GM's or scouts because they you know name a big owner he probably loves the league and we've heard from a lot of them that they love the league they would love to invest and the players love the league they come to the games they play in the league when they're done with with the NBA GM's scouts come sitting next to me on the front row and be like oh man you know and they even pull some our guys put them in the G league a couple our guys made it all the way back to the NBA you know 10-day contracts things like that so it's not the culture of the NBA it's just the suits it's the corporate people you know I mean it's the brass it's the it's the top guys that are scared of what we got just scared of competition in general always well they think they own basketball they think like we own basketball but it's nuts it's fucking nuts because I don't I don't hear kids running out saying mom I'm about to go play NBA right no they say mom I'm about to go play basketball with my friends yeah so basketball doesn't have an owner and they are I think intimidated that we have changed the game you know and we haven't changed it just to change it we've changed it for the better and we've changed it within our own version of the sport so we're not trying to change five on five we're just trying to introduce three on three and elevate it to the professional level which we have I only think that would be a good thing those suits are silly it is a good thing man they are silly that's why I'm here man you know it's like it's time for these you know suits to get out the way and you know let the relationship flourish if it's gonna flourish and even if it don't look we're doing fine when our sixth season our ratings are growing you know we did you know 500,000 people on CBS this Sunday that's awesome crazy where this idea come from me and my guy Jeff you know we've been working together for over 25 years like everything in the last 25 years we we kind of been you know cooking it up so you know we see Kobe scored 60 points in his last game now this idea had been blowing in me but it was like you know it's sports I'm an entertainment guy you know I'm in rap I'm in the you know music and movies and television and that so it had just been sitting there and this dude hit 60 points in his last game and then there's nowhere else you can see him play he's done by wave going to tunnel and we're like that sucks it sucks that we cannot ever see Kobe Bryant playing a professional basketball game again it's got to be other guys that people want to see that still got it they make they may not be able to play 82 games you know I mean they may not be able to play back-to-backs and three games in four nights but half court three on three to fifty they gonna look like all-stars and so that's where the idea started to germinate and that makes sense too that's just the breakdown as you get older you just can't do as many games that makes sense yeah I mean they still can play like if you put them out there one game give it all you got against the 20 year olds those though they'll do great but if you haven't played the next day you know they just can't recover as fast as the 20 year olds yeah so you they look like they can't play you know the next day so by having a week off you get to recover it's like football you know you get get a chance let your body recover heal so by the time that next weekend come around you're 100% ready good to go let's do it especially with the way guys train today where older guys can train today and you know with the science of sports nutrition and yes science of recovery they're just so much but no worries there's so much better at it now maybe I've ever been before we changed our mind we got rid of this we heard you was on Joe what can we do this is so stupid that's the thing with older fighters too they have a hard time getting through camps that's yes part it's like they can still fight but getting through a eight-week camp is two a days all the sparring yeah too much yeah I remember I forgot the football player he played for the Giants receiver plexico burris plexico burris the coaches hated him cuz why don't you say hated him you know just exaggerating but they didn't like the fact that he would not practice at all come in the game on Sunday and score a touchdown it's like it goes against everything that they preach you have to practice you have to practice you have to practice then you are conditioned to score the touchdown but he's like no I got to recover I got to recover I got to recover and then by Sunday I can go out and score a touchdown and that goes against coaches philosophy but he knew his own body of course and and and you know we all know our own body to a certain extent yeah you know and I think you should always save an athlete from himself but you shouldn't push an athlete before he's ready to go yeah yeah it's it's it's always different for different people too like yes we'll recover quicker it's just you know as athletes get older in particular they get more and more wise to that more and more wise to like how their body works and what they need to do and not need to do yeah you know the you know I heard one player say that man they don't pay they don't pay me to play in the game like I'll do that for free 70,000 15,000 fans who wouldn't do that for free they pay me to practice they pay me to show up on time they pay me to do all the stuff I don't want to do and you know that makes sense but sometimes you don't practice somebody just because you're paying them yeah well the difference in like you could never do this with foot when football players are done they're kind of done because they're just the damage they take some you know I think it depends on the style and I think you could do you know interesting flag version of football I think you could sell it if it was you know thought about and really worked on to to be you know pleasing to the fans how would you do that like what would make because people love touchdowns but they also love tackles they love people getting hit yeah I mean there's a few ways to do it you know you could you could do pads 7-on-7 and and kind of you know open the game up a little bit so it's not so many collisions coming from so many different yeah less people more space more skill set not so brute but a little bit of hit could do it that way too yeah that could that could work the flag one I would think would be kind of tough it's tough because people look at flag as as kind of like a side you know a byproduct of football not real football well almost like football for kids yeah but they you know but guys that go out and play two-hand touch all day you know yeah so maybe that's it hmm who knows well it's interesting when fighters figure out ways to do that too like what Floyd is doing what Floyd is doing is so interesting he retires from fighting he says I'll just start boxing people have no chance hey why not you know I mean exhibition like we saw that in well what is rocky 3 or something yeah yeah yeah he's like he started doing exhibitions with Hulk Hogan and you know exactly exactly and got caught I mean got hurt like you know dealing with that so I mean I think people want to see Floyd fight you know some people want to see him lose you know I never wanted to see Floyd lose and so he'll always have some interest you know even if he's fighting you know what he did is it's just complete genius yes first of all from just changing his style right he broke his hands a lot so when he was younger they called him pretty boy Floyd yeah then he changed his name to money and when he changes in money turns heel he became like this guy taught and everybody wanted to see him get beat yeah and he's the most unhittable guy in the history of the sport yes sir he's right up there with Purnell Whitaker like those are the two guys that I say like the most elusive guys in a modern nut you know past Willie pep in modern era Purnell Whitaker and Floyd Floyd's even more impressive because he stands right in front of guys he stands right in front of you and you can't hear right in front of you and you can't get a good one you can't get shit on it's the maze it's one of the most amazing skill sets he's like a he's like a you know one of those like Minnesota Fats kind of pool players that know all the trick shots and yeah you can't beat him you know a guy that can you know you know play a hand or board game or or ping-pong you just he just know you just can't beat him and he just he's that way in boxing yeah he just knows all the tricks of the trade and he's just better his way more information about where you should be for week where he can hit you and where he should be where you can't hit him it's just he's got it all in his head he knows what punch can be thrown at what time what punch can't and so he just when he knows you can't throw a punch that's where he is and when he knows you can that's where he ain't my favorite fighter I've had a lot of favorite fighters but one of my favorites was the Canelo fight because it was just a master class yeah master class and just a young incredibly promising champion a guy who's gonna be an all-time great but not yet not yet not ready for that guy you know Floyd always catch him young young or old yeah yeah you know and he tapped you up and he said thank you yeah you know next I did a smart thing to he got him to cut down 152 pounds yeah I'm a little lighter yeah a little smaller a little more dehydrated a little weaker yeah a little weaker and then just box him up yeah but if you see what it did to Canelo's game like you see Canelo when he fought Danny Jacobs later on he said he was moving like Floyd like he mirrored that you have to yeah you dealing with a master and when you fight a master or you you know if I wrapped against a master or if you know you spar against a master you better to take a few tricks of the trade yeah which you you know that's the whole thing about respecting the game Daniel Cormier always says you get the rub like when someone fights for the title and you fight a world champion you feel what that's like okay and you either get way better or you kind of like realize I'll never beat that guy and never get that yeah there was like a lot of like during the Tyson era nobody got the rub you got in there and you were like fuck this I mean Tyson had you so many he has so many psychological advantages yeah you know everybody else you know you know give me the pretty roll put this satin on the robe I need to you know I need to look I had to have flares coming from my my tassels you know have to be right you know I got to look pretty coming in there Floyd coming there gladi gladiator style yeah how Mike had a towel over his head with a hole in it and and no socks on he ain't here for none of that he just here to whoop your ass and you know and he psychologically beat a lot of people before he even landed that fatal punch oh yeah even after the buster Douglas fight that didn't even take it away from him a lot of times when a guy gets knocked out like their aura of invincibility goes away but with Mike it was still there yeah cuz people are always scared of the you know when you snap nobody want to deal with crazy you know I mean everybody could deal with everything but you know everybody get out the way it crazy yeah yeah when Mike was screaming I'll eat your children man yeah this is the walkout look you just pushing everybody out the way nobody even want to give him a dap because they don't know if he gonna knock them out on his way to the ring yeah that's I mean this is some of the G is shit ever yeah you know I mean like just a top cut the towel in half man yeah you know man got time for this shit I'm ready knock somebody the fuck out it was a special time in boxing because who's a long time where the heavyweight champion you know Larry Holmes didn't get his due because he beat up Muhammad Ali so everybody's always mad at Larry yeah and then when Mike Tyson came along it was like all of a sudden there's like a real heavyweight champion where everybody wants to see him fight yeah you know he was my my first experience of a guy who was just you know the incredible Hulk like going and knock people out you know two or three rounds it's over and you know I grew up watching Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes and all the other fighters in between you know I wasn't really you know old enough to appreciate Joe Frazier and nothing like that but when Tyson came around he was like oh this is what this is what you want in a fighter that's why he was a superhero yeah I was like this is what you want you want that attitude you know pretty fighters are okay but you want you want a ferocious fighter yeah pretty fighters are fun to watch Floyd's look as a person who appreciates but Floyd can do the way he expresses himself it's just it's genius is genius boxing when you know a lot of people want to know like who's the best ever I feel like you go on who got hit the least who won the most fights and who got hit the least if you look at that Floyd's at the top of the heap by far like no one's even close yeah and count the money yeah yeah I gotta say he you know he is the best you know when you want to see like a destruction the Mike Tyson fights were a completely different kind of an event yeah you know the thing is is you know I think people would love Floyd if he you know had a little more pop on the punch you know I mean he can hit you and get you and pop you and drop you and back you up and do all those good stuff and make you look bad and I think you know he's he's just people you know fault him for not you know when he hit it you know it hurt yeah well he always had hand problems multiple hand breaks yeah what was very unfortunate but that also probably contributed to how skillfully was because you couldn't get guys out with one shot so he had to just always be in the right spot piece you up hit not get hit just the way he did it standing in front of people's I don't think folks understand how hard that is to do so crazy yeah it's a it's almost like magic it's almost like magic you know how you know like you stand in there you say come on come with your best shot and you can't get it you can't land it how how why why can't I land everybody thinks they can too that's what's interesting yes especially in this whole promo tour he's doing where he's just running around doing these exhibitions they all think I could probably in a shot no it's just he's 46 no they're talking about him fighting Pacquiao let them doing it again I'd watch that yeah I mean hell yeah fuck I don't think I don't think age should really keep you from checking out somebody you know who's a master yeah like especially he's fighting some of his age yeah it's it's two masters going at it and you know ages is just a number you know it's really just a number it's not it's not reality reality is how you feel you know so it's a saying if you didn't know how old you were would you know how old you are hmm some people would it's it's an indicator of how well your body's functioning it's a pretty good indicator though if you said someone wants a fight in their 60 you go yeah yeah yeah you know it's too old to see fast skills yeah but have you ever seen an old man fight it's pretty interesting you know a couple old dudes you know I mean I seen on the internet a couple dudes get at it and it's uh it's fun you know one round get down yeah we got the 60 year olds with the one round get down we're gonna go as long as they can before they fall out you get fucked up as a 60 year old though you don't recover yeah that's just kicked as a 60 year old you might be fucked for the rest of your life yeah you're risking a lot yeah some people would do it though you know I've seen some guys are young that got fucked up that were never the same you know it's it's um it's through it's the roughest way to make a dollar in the rough it's the roughest and UFC even take it to another notch cuz you know somebody can kick your mouth open kick your jaw open yeah knee you in the face elbow you in the eye socket yeah or just you know I mean you know pull your shit out of socket yeah yeah it's like it's a rough game it is it's a rough game you know tap out baby tap out yeah it's just but it's the most exciting thing to watch combat sports to me is just like man when you watch like a world title fight there's very few things whether it's boxing or MMA like when Terrence Crawford's gonna fight Earl Spence yeah that fight is going to be crazy yeah man that is a crazy moment we got two undefeated champions in their prime yes and no one knows what's gonna happen yeah you know it's uh it's interesting you know sometimes those fights they're just two skill you know have you ever seen guys this fight they're too skilled and they they're just both missing cuz they can't hit each other cuz they both got the skills you know so and they don't want to take too many chances and open up yeah so hopefully it's not one of them I don't know hopefully it's one of those they take it personal from the first couple of rounds and yeah I can't imagine Terrence Crawford's never been in a boring fight ever neither is Earl Spence I think they're gonna go after each other well they know how to tattoo they opponent so I can imagine them just tattooing each other you know back and forth yeah I'm interested to see how Terrence what Stancy uses too because he in my opinion he's the best switch hitter since Marvin Hagler nobody switches like Terrence yeah Terrence just he's southpaw then he's Orthodox and it's just as good from both sides and you got to like do all this calculating in the middle of the fight and switch it up everything's coming from a different angle now yeah your brain is yeah it's not moving as fast as it should be that's such a big body can't move that fast if your brain is right you have to think and so much yeah yeah it should be instincts but yeah it's gonna be an amazing fight and you know worried a little bit about Earl you know he's been in those car accidents well that doesn't one there's one of the Ferrari that's a crazy car and you could have died not 100 if he didn't have a seatbelt or he wasn't wearing a seatbelt but if he was wearing a seatbelt he might be dead if he was yeah he got thrown from the Ferrari he's in a convertible have you seen it now I haven't seen the car you seen the video I haven't seen the video oh shit watch this this video is crazy here it goes Wow yeah so he got thrown out of the car and that's how he survived I didn't look at this like that yeah geez do 100% could have been dead yes 100% that was a terrible accident it's hard to say that you 100% I mean he rolled like five six seven times look at that card if if he wasn't a master athlete could he had survived that and who knows what happened to him when he survived right like he hit his head did he hit his neck like what is he okay like is he 100% or is he always gonna be a little fuck from that there's another angle Wow Jesus oh my god that's one of the most horrific ones I've seen but he was okay that's good amazing amazing cuz like a talent like that to take that guy at a young age is so horrible yes yes it would be it would be devastating to give these dudes money and they you could just go buy one of those cars it's kind of crazy you could just go buy a 700 horsepower car you don't even know how to drive yeah yeah I know I used to there was a trip cuz I remember being at the studio echo sound one time and Tupac came he pulled up in the Benz it's like oh man Pac you Benz is like yep I don't have my license man I hope I don't wreck it man park that car man you don't know how to drive it's like no I'm having New York man so long I'm worried about driving I'm like oh you know I think he did wreck it a few times you know I'm saying for those all said learning how to drive first car yeah it's Benz you know like 500 what was the first thing you bought when you started making money man the first thing I bought like the first car oh man I bought a Honda Accord I bought a Honda Accord you know they had just come out with a new model it was about it was about 20 G's and I was like you know I'm sick of rolling around here you know at first I had like a sidekick you know Suzuki Oh no, I remember those. Sidekick and I was like man I need some I need some luxury you know I mean I'm starting to make money you know let's go down here and get this Honda Accord Kim she's my wife but she was my girlfriend at the time so we went down there place on I think it was Los Hiena could had a Honda Spot and I just went in there and bought a black Honda Accord cash wow yeah that's a pretty reasonable car but you didn't go crazy I only had 20 G's so if I'd have had 40 out of both you know probably a BMW you know I mean three series of some so you know at the time it was the first cool thing I was able to buy and and not sweat it you know I mean like that's the key is the buy it and not sweat it right yeah if you buy in it and you sweating is still you like damn I remember I remember one day I remember Drane Yella they got checks I think they got checks for like thirty five thousand dollars next thing I seen them they had both have vets I think Corvettes and I was like how much you put in thirty one how much you pay for you was thirty three like y'all broke now so what we look good it's funny but that's the temptation you know yeah I mean you know you man you like you only live once and we know a lot of people that die young and so it's kind of like get it why the getting is good yeah it's also you're young when you're young when when I first started making money my manager thought I had a gambling problem yeah he called me up he said you are you having a gambling problem cuz he knew how much money I was burning through I go no man I mean lobster yeah I'm like I mean steak and lobster I'm taking my friends out like I'm spending money yeah I mean that's what you do you know and it feels good yeah it feels good it was good to finally be able to treat and and not you know worry about what it's gonna look like or that's the big thing is the worry I remember the first check I got a check from Disney for a development deal from Disney in like 1993 and when I got the check it was like weight lifted off my shoulder so it's like this like I could look at my bank account I got money in the bank account yeah I could pay the bills I got off to think about the bills right now it was like like I was lighter like without a doubt yeah I mean it does weigh on you when you can't you know when you don't know exactly where the money's gonna come from you know the bills here you know when you gotta pay it but you really don't know exactly how this is all gonna come together you know you you hope the universe bless you with a opportunity yeah and and so to not have that worry it is a weight lifted off you know and I wish I wish more people could feel the weight lifted off but there's another thing the more you make the more you spend so sometimes the weight comes back back on you know I mean the weight comes back on and then you have employees and that's another way that's a different weight that's like you think about other people's families yes you're making money for them too yeah you know you really you know that's why I don't do nothing crazy you know I'm not in the skydiving nothing like that you know I'm definitely not going down in no damn submarine yeah what the fuck Titanic I don't do I don't take those crazy chances cuz you know I got generations depending on me yeah and so you know got to take that responsibility serious because you never know when others in my family bloodline or whatever are gonna be able to have the opportunities that I have you know even though my son O'Shea Jr. you know he's working constantly he's in Spain right now yeah he is that's amazing that he's just carrying on that's beautiful it is that must make you very proud man it's like the best one guy asked me you know how does it feel saying your son you know straight out of Compton and does so well I said it's like it's like winning the Super Bowl on a team and then your son comes and win the Super Bowl for that same team that's the feeling I don't know if anybody has ever had that feeling but it seems like that's how I feel it's like I won with NWA and he won with NWA that's amazing that's man what a perfect person to play yeah how who would be better to play you it's perfect it's perfect I mean before he you know decided to take the movie you know I would take him on tour with me and we would do we was doing that anyway he would jump on stage he would do dope man and you know I'm like oh that's my son you know and I'm like man he he got that swagger up here mommy of a young me okay so when it was time to do the movie when it was really a go I went to him and I said hey man this this NWA movie looked like it's gonna go he was like cool man that's good good luck man that's great like hold on hold on I said uh I want you to play me he was like okay and I'm like wow that was too easy you know I mean I was like you know that was he was like okay and he just kept on walking I'm like wait a minute and then I said I gotta see if he's serious or he's just you know saying okay just to say okay but it's a hell of a lot of work so I start putting him through the through the ringer a little bit you know I was like hey man we got an acting we got an acting coach for you you know LA you need to go down there on Thursday you know you need to be there at this time that boom boom boom all right all right and he would go and I'm like okay he's starting to go but is he just going is he participating is he into it you know boom so I'm gonna try something else I sent him to New York to a guy for you know training acting like I'm sitting wallow it in New York to see if he'll do that because that's when he'll bail be like oh you know I got something to do so he got on the plane flew to New York work with this cat flew back now when he flew back I was checking him out saying what he was doing you know we was far from actually casting a movie at that time and then he was like uh he came up he was like I'm gonna go work with my coach today I'm like what so yeah me and my acting coach we're gonna get together we're gonna do a couple of things I'm like he's into it he's into it yeah so then I let him do that so now I have to approach Gary Gray now Gary Gray is the director of straight out of Compton he also directed Friday and he directed it was a good day you know these are some of my biggest projects and when I told him he was like yeah man it's cool you know he's just thinking about who you gonna get to play him I said okay guess who I want to play ice cube he's like oh I said my son he was like what the fuck man thought we was making a real movie man we are making a real movie what you talking about I said he's gonna be great in it he's gonna be great if you get the part he'll have to audition and Universal sign off on him but you're gonna work with him just like John Singleton work with me you know I mean John put me in boys in the hood I didn't act I was no actor I was just a rapper and he saw something in me put me in the movie and he helped me through it and the rest is history and you're gonna do the same thing so make a long story short so audition time screen test time now my son going there and he said he got pissed off cuz it's five other fucking ice cubes they're all this he's like these dudes think they're about to take this he said man I felt like I had the family name on my back I had to go in there and house this shit and he said you know when he left the screen test Donna Langley from Universal called me and it was like your son was great he was actually the best one and we're gonna sign off on it wow yeah it's cool cool story that's a great story it's great story the way you made him do it too that's so smart he worked harder than any of the other actors like two years of grinding because you know the coaches son always he get it to worse right now I mean yeah and and it was no different on this movie of course he had I had to make sure that he won and he set up his self for a career in this game that's amazing that's me your career like it's one of the things that's so fascinating about your career it's like there was never anyone like you before that did what you did you went from gangster rap to like family movies yeah like no one's ever done that and then sports entertainment like you you branched out into so many things but the key part of it that people need to understand today is when you guys came out when nwa came out the whole world went what the fuck yes the whole world I remember I was I was in Revere Massachusetts I was on an elliptical machine at the gym and a friend of mine told me you gotta listen to this shit and I had a cassette walk my man yeah so I'm there with a cassette walk man on the elliptical shit elliptical machine listening straight out of Compton going holy shit like this is why there was nothing like that before that and I remember like laughing while while I was riding the elliptical I'm like these guys are out there fucking my yeah this is crazy and then there was like the tipper gore shit where Al Gore's wife was trying to censor rap music the PMRC parents resources against music council or something like that and that was the Democrats folks that that's the reason you have an advisory sticker on the record because that was the compromise they were saying you know I sent my sent my daughter to the record store to buy a record she came home with fucking two live crew I know this shit was gonna be like this you know so you know the compromise from the the record industry was will put a parental advisory sticker on the record to so if a parent was buying a record for Christmas you know they parent parents was like I want to short you know I mean they go by the two short record put it in and they like the hell so we were the first group to put that sticker on our records we were the very first group because priority records designed that parental advisory sticker and yep that sticker and it was it was actually it had to be stuck on the record like a sticker and they had to go through all our records in every record store and put the sticker on so the next time we did artwork we just planted it in the artwork and then kids wouldn't buy your shit if it didn't have to say it's like he was putting a putting the sticker on clean records that's like a clean record not one ounce of profanity on it but they was putting the parental advisory because kids was looking at it was like we're just sticking with notes that's the opposite effect that promotes it yes that's what exactly what happened it promoted it to live crew is the first band that got arrested though right when the first band got arrested on stage I believe yeah I'm not sure you know history rap got a long history you know I don't know if somebody you know tackled you know cool her cuz somebody right here I but but uh that's the one that went you know nationwide news and yeah he got arrested yeah yeah Luke Luke fought for all of our freedom of speech to be honest you know if they would have took Luke now and the two live crew at the time and said that this music is too obscene and you can't sell stuff like this you know everything was probably be so you know sterile right now you know yeah oh for sure it did well that's the same thing with Howard Stern and radio yes you know they went after Howard think they find them insane amounts of money for the Howard Stern show yes and if you just folded and gave into that there probably no podcasts or it would have taken a lot longer exactly figure this out yeah it's incredible it's incredible when when you stand up at the moment of truth you know yeah like it's important for us to stand up at the time that is going on and not back down in there and try to regroup yeah and then go at it you know it's it's really important it is for people to stand up for themselves but it's hard yes it's hard today more than ever because you get so much pressure people like especially during Covid people ganged up on people people were doing the man's work for the man's like yeah who the fuck are you trusting like why are you trusting these people that have been lying forever yeah man it was wild during that time like you know people being bullied into doing things that they didn't want to do a lot of them didn't want to do it they they did it because of their work or their yeah you know their situation or yeah a lot of them are hurting right now yeah I know you know I know a guy that's you know been dealing with tonight is since since he got it and so I know you know quite a few people that got fucked up some of them pretty bad it's just it was just there was if you wanted to do it in a textbook way like if it was a conspiracy that's how I would do it I'd isolate people make them stay at home take away their livelihood make them scared give them small checks you know and then give them this thing that you got to take to get back to normal won't get back to normal yeah go take that don't worry it's safe and effective safe and effective safe and effective and then you have all this pressure and everyone is yelling at you if you don't do it if you don't do it we're not gonna get back to normal and everybody got scared and everybody just stepped in line it was strange it's strange yeah it was you know stepping in line sometimes is not the way to go no it's not always the way to go is no you're trying to prevent and try to make things off smooth and easy and no issues and and back to normal and all that and the world might be back to normal but are you right normal well you got to be able to make informed decisions yes and when you can't make an informed decision you're being pressured anyway it's like what we how long and this is the thing that was driving me crazy before the election all when Donald Trump was president all they were talking about is I'm not gonna take the shot you're gonna take a shot that Trump made who's gonna take that shot even Biden was saying it who's gonna take it Kamala Harris is saying they're all saying it don't take that I would never take that and then all sudden Biden becomes president and they're like you gotta take it because that's the same thing this is the same thing you know why it takes to develop a vaccine this is the same vaccine same one you guys were just talking shit and you know no matter who tried to give it to you at the end of the day it wasn't ready it's not ready you know six months now to try to turn this thing into something effective that was totally you know experimental totally experimental and everybody who who took it was was basically signing up to take an experimental drug drug and I'm not anti-vax I've been faxed before like we had vaccines have out all of them everyone I was supposed to get exactly but those have been some been around 80 years some around yeah 5040 and I just wasn't comfortable after six months I was ready to take it the UFC allocated 150 vaccines I think for all their employees and this is when we're doing shows during the lockdowns yeah so we'd go there's a covid bubble you get tested you get tested the day of the event and I was there and they said oh we got the vaccines you want to take it I said yes so I called up the doctor I said hey man can I take it and they and they said yeah hold on we'll set it up I was gonna take it like before the show I thought it was just like a flu shot give me that thing it's normal right and they call me up and they say no we can't do it until Monday we have to it has to be done at the clinic can you can you go on Monday I said I can't I go better be back for another event two weeks okay we'll do it then during that time it got pulled during the time it got pulled for blood clots and two guys I knew had strokes guys and yeah and then I was like okay what is going and then my friend got it and got over it quick and I was like what's going on my real estate lady had it and she didn't even have any symptoms she tested positive twice and she's like well I got isolate but I feel fine and I was like what is this is a death sentence or is this like how many people are asymptomatic and you find out like 65 percent of the people are asymptomatic like what the fuck is going on here yeah and then I knew some people that got in and got real real sick but they were fat or they were out of shape or they had other problems then I knew a few friends were real healthy that got it they got wrecked because they didn't take it seriously and they kept working out so there was a lot of confusion yes and you know it was a lot of a lot of fear but when I finally got it and I got over quick and then they started attacking me for taking a horse medication I was like what the fuck is going on shouldn't you be more interested in the fact that this deadly disease hit this 55 year old dude and he was better in three days isn't that more interesting like why don't you ask what I took yeah why did I get better what is it yeah I wasn't vaccinated yeah I wasn't vaccinated but I got over it quick so what's wrong with that in any other fucking rational sane world when there's a disease and someone goes to a doctor and gets medication for that disease and gets better in three days you go oh well that's a way to get better from that disease yes not this is one singular thing that you have to do that I can't even do now because I already have antibodies like this is stupid it's crazy and you know the thing is is when money is the driving force and you know I don't know if they can even get money off of what you took you know I mean it seems like something's been around for a long time that's what's just one of the things I took and and and there's no money in it right no new money in it yes zero money in it so that's really what it's all about you know it's not about if it worked or if it's effective it's about they can't make no money off of it and we got this new stuff that we can make billions so that's where the pressure comes from and that's why they pushing it that's why you have to think for yourself because money is driving these people to give you bad advice or give you the wrong advice or or the high you know solutions and cures and remedies from you and and you know you got it once you once you peep that out you have to take a step back and make sure that you're you're following the money to make sure it's not it's just so hard to take you down in the middle of a pandemic that's why it was so hard because everybody was just like locked in their house and scared especially in California the attitude in California was so much different than the attitude here we came to Texas and like don't have a fucking mask on this is crazy yeah just out normal yeah Kelly they went crazy with it you know I was using a mask really to as a disguise finally walked finally walked through here nobody asked for a selfie you know I mean cool so you know I kind of like I got the mask in my pocket for that too you know I mean pop it on airport it's just a disguise now yeah well finally you can wear a mask yeah the time and that's what I tripped off to I was like they letting all these people stand around in these stores walking through these stores with their face covered yeah and banks yeah when it yeah exactly when is a guy just gonna pull out a pistol and they'd be like I don't know they all have masks we don't know who it was it was a man who's that mass man well it's happening so often in New York City they made people take their masks down when they went into stores they made that a rule so the camera can get a shot of your face I'm supposed to keep this on protect everybody well and then they found out real early that it didn't even work they knew early that those things were bullshit but it was a it was a thing that get you to comply with yeah and it's also you did it so you didn't feel like an asshole if everybody had a mask on you didn't you felt like an asshole so yeah and you know people were looking at you like you're the one spreading all the way down here yeah yeah it was crazy I knew a guy got sick wearing the mask like he had this cloth mask that he just felt it was the thing I was gonna protect them I'm like dude you're breathing in and like wash that thing yeah no say you breathing that you I don't know what you breathe you know I'm saying take that off your face yeah you wouldn't want that on a wound you know right you know a dirty ass rag over a cut he's breathing through it all yeah every day getting right in your bloodstream yeah you smoking weed through that thing yeah it was just weird this is a weird time I saw that you would you'd have to pass on a movie because they wanted you to get a shot yeah you know they are strangest thing you know so we're doing a movie we're doing a movie I'm like okay and then all the producers in Hollywood decided that they don't want anybody on their movie set that haven't gotten a vaccine and what year was this this is 2020 okay so it's in the middle of it yeah I mean we're coming out of it I think it might be 21 when we know okay everything is going back to normal but it didn't the I believe the news came out during 2020 and so you know I never thought it was a producer's mandate you know I thought it was a studio mandate but I think the studios really wanted to have you know kind of a little out so they put it on a producer's like this is not us this is this production that production this production that production I'm like but it is every production so you mean tell me every producer in Hollywood has this mandate give me a break it has to come from the studio to hit every producer because every producer don't think the same like right some producers you know had their own different opinions so anyway it was a studio mandate they put it on individual producers so producers talking to my people and they're like if he don't take it you know he can't be in the movie it's like it's not taking it it's not taking it so okay can't do the movie okay no problem now I didn't go out telling everybody what happened I didn't put the word out that I didn't even tell people that I wasn't vaccinated I didn't tell people not to go get vaccinated I didn't tell people that I'm not doing this movie because I don't want to be vaccinated but somehow someway the news hit the you know I don't know if Hollywood reporter or somebody put it out that this is why cube is not doing the movie and I thought it was chicken shit thought it was you know it's like what happened to the hippo laws you know or OSHA one of them I forgot it because you know where you're not supposed to reveal a person's medical status and here it is they print mine and so I just thought it was bullshit and and it just kind of snowball you know I'm like what they want is for people to tell me I'm stupid you know I mean they want people to tell me you turn in nine you turn it down nine million dollars you stupid you know I'll do anything for nine million dollars how stupid can QB and I don't care about that you know it's like I didn't lose nine million dollars because I never had it like if you never have some shit you can't lose it okay you lose it when it's in your bank account then you look up and it's gone you know I'm saying but if you never had it I didn't lose it it just was never given to me and so you know they they tried to you know put it out there and they tried to put my business in the street put pressure on me everybody around me telling me how stupid I am so I can go get vax to say you know please let me do the movie you know that was never gonna happen I don't care if it was 20 million that was never gonna happen and if you got injured from that vaccine you would have paid that 20 million to be healthy again damn right damn right yeah damn right there's a lot of people out there that wish that they weren't forced into making that decision and that's what the real lawsuits are gonna come from the real lawsuits since you can't see the vaccine companies they're gonna start suing these businesses and they're already lining up without a doubt without a doubt it was a gigantic error and and they're you know they they fired a lot of people you know I think they fired a lot of cops in New York and they had to hire them back and give them back pay and give them back pay but what about the ones that were injured that took the vax yeah you know they gotta have some kind of a repercussion because you know they they just proved it they just kind of told on theirself that we got this wrong yeah and nobody wants to talk about it that's the crazy thing because all the nobody can yeah you know that's what I'm talking about the the gatekeepers nobody can't talk about it because somebody above them told him no from this outlet that outlet you know the NBA going back to that you know I'm just kind of putting it in perspective but the guys in the NBA used to talk about the big three if you go back to year one all the time and then they just stop and then I asked you know I asked my guy you know what happened man why y'all stop they told us we couldn't mention the big three anymore on air so I'm like that's chicken shit you know that's that that's that bullshit that I'm talking about yeah that you know I'm talking about what happened to me but it obviously happens everywhere to all of us you know I mean and and we gotta somehow some way get these people out of our way or not support what they're doing and producing you know some of these mainstream outlets are really just an extension of these corporate conglomerates who want to you know kind of control our emotions control our movement control our spinning control our personalities control our mind and you know what we're gonna do about it like at the end of the day you know I'm saying like we're gonna just sit here and let it happen day after day till we're steamrolled and and and wore out and have no fight in us or we gonna stand up where we can you know I mean and push back when we can I know everybody can't in all situations and don't feel bad when you can't but when you can and you know you can do it yes do it like when you have the leverage take it yeah take it like like you have see when you got the leverage you gotta go yeah use that yeah to your advantage you might not always have the leverage you might not always have you know the right timing but when you do when you can we we gotta we gotta buck buck back you know if not we're just gonna continue to get steamrolled and not be heard and cancelled and all this kind of stupid stuff yeah we're just repeating patterns that are played out throughout history yes when people get power they want to have ultimate power they want more power any obstructions they see to their goals any things that people were doing that would get in the way they want to silence that stop that they want to bust unions they want to do whatever the fuck they can to consolidate their power yeah and it's uh at a certain point is just ridiculous yeah and um it was not good for us these are some of the most unhappy people in the world who is just concerned with more and more power and they're powerful you know whenever you saw a guy who was maxing out you know bench pressing or whatever and blew out of his shoulder like lunch times like it's like you was maxed out the last time you maxed out why are you trying to max out even more and more and more and more and then you blow out your shoulder you know what i'm saying so at a certain point you gotta know when you got enough of this and enough of that i think the money people though they never think that way because it's all about numbers like the whole thing is numbers it's not like look i put out a new album look i put out a new movie i'm creating a thing i'm putting together stuff for them it's always numbers it's all numbers it's just numbers and so you never feel satisfied and there's always a guy with a bigger jet there's always a guy with a bigger house there's always a guy with more of this more of that and yeah yeah and usually you know you can find happier people with way way way less way less yeah way less yeah if your goal is happy that is not the occupation you should be in that's not it no yeah those people are miserable yeah and they're always chasing and they're never satisfied you know that to me is torture in itself well it's also stupid and if and if you run into corporation it's actually your obligation your obligation to your shareholders to continue to make as much money as possible so you're trapped in a system that obligates you to behave and think that way and if you don't you won't be competitive yeah it's uh it's an ugly game you know and and i don't see where where people are being thought about in these type situations you know it's all about you know capital don't care yeah capital has no emotions capital only respects capital yeah the only time it respects people's opinions is when people boycott shit and it works like this bud light thing yeah then and now people like don't do that again yeah like be careful because look what happened to bud light well who controls bud light that's the question why would they make a dumb decision like that are they trying to ruin bud light and why would they want to ruin bud light are they trying to take down some of our most iconic american brands and why would that help i don't think they were trying to i don't think they had any idea this was going to happen this is uh esg thing that everybody has to dedicate a certain amount of their time to you know woke stuff who who man who mandates that it's a good question where does the esg money come from is that uh government like where does that come from and it's they they have scores and the esg score of your corporation determines what you get and the problem is also you get these people that are coming out of college like this this lady who made the decision for bud light you know she's gone through the university system she's in the corporate system and she's a woman and she thinks you know we have to be more inclusive and that's all the language everyone's using today yeah so they don't know any real people they don't know regular people they have no idea that if you take a brand bud light which is like known for you know blue collar drinking people that they like to watch football and drink bud light and then all sudden you have this mentally ill person who's just an attention whore and you make a big deal out of putting this person 365 days of womanhood you put that on a bud light can and they freak the fuck out yeah and then kid rock shoots a bunch of them and then it's on once kid rock shoots your cans you got real problems yeah i'm pretty sure you do uh yeah man it's kind of like i think you gotta you gotta still ask why like what you think there's like a conspiracy well you know who's getting hurt who's getting hurt in this whole thing is it the bud light um anhyzer bush brass are they are will their bonuses be affected will their checks and salaries be affected you got this lower level person fired and a bunch of middle class guys are paying the price because you got distribution centers you know the guys that deliver the beer nobody want and now they're out of a job now you're really attacking the middle class um by by making a brand that's so big um take a hit like that you know the quickest destruction of a company in history bud light sponsors toronto pride parade so you know it's um oh there's a when was this that was just the other day oh that's so silly they're leaning into it why would you the gays are mad at them the the pride people are mad at them because they didn't support dylan mauvaney so they they like kicked it out you don't win you know either way at the end of the day but um you know i think about the companies that own these companies the people that own these companies and why would they let a decision like that take the company down i don't think they thought it was going to i think this is a legitimate public outrage one where they just pushed too far and people went fuck you and it wasn't even like a real like promotion it was a thing they sent a can to this person this dylan mauvaney person but i don't think it went anywhere else i think it was just like here this is for you and you put it on social media they made some sort of a partnering deal you know and that was it so why target do the same thing well i think that's an esg thing that's an esg thing right and target lost billions of dollars too because people people are sick of this shit they're sick of social things like that that are controversial getting stuffed into your face and where you have to accept it yeah and people like i don't want to accept it just like just coming here for fucking toilet paper yeah i think you know people got to keep it in perspective as well too you know i don't think people grab a beer to be so i mean to to you know to learn about the newest social event or the social situation going out grab a beer because you want a beer hang with your buddies or hang you know people that enjoy beer and y'all shoot the shit and politics really shouldn't be in somebody's beer mug you know they just don't get it they think it has to be in everything everybody because of social media everybody feels like they're fighting some sort of social battle with everything they do and you know and this is one this is another one it's like it's like forced compliance you have to you're forced to comply with this and you know it's fucking up women's sports in a huge way in a huge way and you know some organizations are pushing back against that and some people are pushing back against the organizations that are pushing back against it which to me is insane like if you care at all about biological women you should be against that what i mean what if like lebron said he wanted to play in the wba i'm retiring from the NBA because i'm 49 and i'm gonna play in the wba well they wouldn't be able to stop it if he just decided to say publicly i identify as a woman what are they going to do they can't do anything and then that would be the end there would be dave shapelle's a bit about it yeah brian scores 100 again tonight well there was some fucking knucklehead that was getting an interview they said if mike tyson identified as a woman should he be able to fight women and they're like well the short answer is yes oh lord it's so crazy yeah it's okay there's also different specifications it's like what you have to do and how long you have to take hormones before you can identify as a woman and compete as a woman like just fucking stop who's gonna check all that yeah there's a reason why there's women's sports and there's a reason why there's men's sports and it's we're not talking about who you are what your truth is live your truth i mean title nine just got you know what just turned what 30 or yeah something like that you know i mean so protecting women's sports yeah yeah which is which is great because it forces schools and you know they make a lot of money you know teaching whatever they teach in them schools and they should carve out some for women to be able to play for their school you know that's great and um so i don't understand you know sometimes things don't make crazy man sense then when they when they don't make crazy man sense i just back out and stop thinking about it yeah it's probably a good move because you're not gonna solve it i mean people are i think ultimately it gets solved where people just don't accept it anymore and then hopefully it'll go i mean maybe they could just develop a transgender league where trans people play against trans people that would be great why not but you can't pretend you're a biological female just because you wish you were like you can't pretend when it comes to women's sports you can't pretend when it comes to women's rights issues it's like that's not this is this you don't want men dominating that because that's what it is it's men entering to women's spaces yeah and whether they're ultimately they identify as a woman that's great but you physically you're a biological male yeah yeah and you want to compete against them you want to play rugby against women get the fuck out of here get the fuck out of here that's crazy they want to dominate they want to dominate there's a lot of that they want to dominate they want to be winners yeah yeah fall sudden you give a woman and a winner and just kick everybody's ass yeah you know how you used to like play the kids in basketball like they ate shack out there you just shacked yeah it's the ultimate sandbagging you know it's like you know you have a giant advantage like the one that drove me the craziest was the mma fighter yeah because that person became a woman for two years and then started competing as women and not telling them and saying it was a medical issue it's i don't have to disclose a medical condition like no no no no no that's not what that is if they if that person said that they were a woman and and competed against women that's deception that's a fucking lie but if you said you're biological male and the women still want to fight you okay all good yeah you know um it's tricky man it's like a slippery slope yeah you know that really starts to get bizarre after a while you know because where does it where does it um actually in at the end of the day you know yeah what does somebody say i don't i don't identify as black i want to be another color yeah purple i'm purple what you laughing at me you get purple you laughing i'm gonna cancel your ass you laughing at me because i'm purple yeah that's basically yeah well we you know you might as well you know i'm i'm a i'm a chicken dinner i'm macaroni and cheese i'm rice i'm the rose yeah you know i'm a chicken dinner man yeah identify as younger people it's like the whole it is a slippery slope yeah because people can you know people always can be extreme with stuff like that they're extremely there and they keep pushing boundaries and they're pushing boundaries on age of consent now which is crazy you know there's um there's people that are also pushing back against calling people pedophiles they're saying you should call them minor attracted persons man come on it's insane i mean you're getting academics that are saying this it's insane yeah it is it's you know it's it's borderline madness somewhere almost there yeah well it's the end of an empire yes and you know there's this guy douglas murray he's his english british intellectual and he said that every time uh a civilization is close to collapsing they become obsessed with gender it happened with the ancient greeks the romans it's just some weird thing that happens when everything is just going too good and life is too easy people get obsessed with the weirdest things and now we're obsessed with gender wow it's the beginning of the day too yeah who knows i mean maybe we'll bounce back you know get a good president in there you know turn it around you know i don't put a lot on the president i don't put a lot on the president well i wonder what would happen if robert kennedy jr got in there very interested to see what happens with that guy yeah you know he's uh you know he's he seemed like a guy who at least is down to deep dive yeah and talk real and and you know really try to dissect what's really going on instead of just going with the herd which would be easy for him to do and like go with the herd you know he maybe you know even ahead more or he may even be doing better you know when they poll thinking like 20 percent of people or something yeah he'd probably be doing better probably doing better and you know instead of you know maybe he'd be one of they one of their guys and so by him going this route it's uh it seems like he's on a more noble route and we just check him out and see how he navigates some of this stuff he's definitely on a more noble route and it's definitely not something he planned to do initially i mean he was an environmental attorney he was the guy that cleaned up the hudson river they would go after these corporations that were dumping toxic waste and and that was his thing it was like mercury in the water and and and you know trying to hold the corporations accountable and then these women started showing up every time he would speech give these speeches and they said we want you to look into mercury in vaccines yeah and so this is 18 years ago and so for 18 years this guy's been saying all this stuff about environmental concerns and that was what his whole thing was and then it wasn't until covet came along and then he wrote that book the real anthony fauci detailing you know what it is that these people are actually doing and how they are engineering these viruses and they they give grants and it's it's dangerous gain of function research and then they give you one medication that you have to take and everybody gets on board with it and they're making fucking billions of dollars yes and no one's talking about yes and no one's talking about what he's saying and he's saying it in a well-informed way and he's expressing it to people like this is this is the playbook they always use and they just used it on everybody look he's dealing with the same people we probably all are dealing with and and it's really time for us to really um come up with a with a plan on how we're gonna deal with this because it's just going to continue to happen yeah it's just going to continue to happen you know i don't have all the answers um but i think we need to collectively start to you know not just give give a pass to people doing things like this um and you know we've got major outlets that's not delivering the right message to the people not delivering the right message um basically steering them the way that you know these super rich people want us to go um and it's not cool no it's not and i'm hoping people wake up enough to at least slow it down because yeah people are pushing in a very obvious and very specific direction they want digital currency centralized digital currency that they control and they want to get everybody on a social credit score system and they're probably connected to some sort of a vaccine app or if you want to travel around all they would need is another pandemic to try to push that shit through and they're already talking about that it's very spooky because when you look into the history of this this lab and them funding it and this getting out and the way they responded to it the whole thing is so scary because it was effective it was effective and very very financially effective i mean they made a lot of fucking money yeah and if they could do something similar again and then clamp down more on people that's what scares me this this talk of centralized digital currency that's what they have in china if they if you fuck up in china and you get a bad social credit score because you tweeted something they didn't like what now you can't buy a plane ticket now you can't buy a car now you can't get a loan now you can't do something you you step the fucking line and people self-censor they don't want to be a part of that and now they got you yep they got you want your self-censor yeah got you where they want you yeah we know that they were involved in twitter we know that the the government was involved in silencing different voices you know they stopped that hunter biden laptop story from getting out before the election it's just it's so obviously dirty shit i did a record card everything's corrupt and uh it is when you really look around and it's like where is the where is the people that's doing the right thing yeah you know where they at have you thought about doing anything with politics no i would never i would never do nothing with politics like does anybody try to pressure you what you mean like you should run for mayor i tell him i'm already the mayor you know it's like only thing i would do i was i said uh king me you know just only thing i would accept is turn you into a king turn me into a king president and politician begging ass politician uh powerless puppet oh no oh no oh no you know i talked to one guy who actually spends the money that the government uh allocates so you know that kreinger say this industry is going to get this many billions um it's up to him to say where that money goes and i'm like well how often do you talk to people at congress he said never he said they can't even get me on the phone i'm like what he's like he said these people can't even get me on the phone man i don't listen to them you know i mean i just tell him where the money gotta go wow so he gets to decide you know he's part of the government that you know when they allocate the money it goes to these different agencies and departments and and then they allocate where it goes um they can't spend any of it so they can't take it but they can spend it and then they could develop relationships with the people that give the money yeah so um so you know the people in congress are to me actually powerless they're just theater at the end of the day well the theater who also gets the inside trade yeah that's the beautiful thing exactly i mean they know where that money's going yeah you know i mean they might not be able to touch it but they can be on the other end to make sure you know their investments are carved out and they make them pretty penny off of it well not only that they do it openly in front of everybody and it's not illegal and every time people call to to ban it they were like nancy pelos is like what now yeah we are we're not gonna do that why would we do that yeah ladies are at 200 million dollars she makes 200 grand a year she's better at stock trading than warren buffert and george soros yeah why wouldn't she be she know where all the body i mean she know where everything is gonna hit it's crazy what's gonna hit when it's gonna hit and how much it's gonna hit for and unless that's illegal fuck you like look fuck your whole system exactly because you know um it's easy to you know it's easy to corrupt these people you know i mean it's all money did you ever think you would have to think about it so much though like i didn't think about this so much like 10 15 years ago um well i always have my kind of you know every since you know people like tipper gourd come after you oh yeah you pay attention to where the shots are being fired you know so before then just a little you know sitting my pops would look at the news and yell at the screen you know i mean that's how that's how i know what was bullshitting what was real you know because and then you know i started doing my thing and then like the law the fbi you know all these agencies started to come down on us really scared the shit out at the record company because we wouldn't we could care less like we was like today we got the fbi letter what was the fbi letter we got fbi letter they sent the letter to priority records saying they one guy was like i'm you know part of this department of the fbi and we're very concerned with this record called straight out of Compton you guys got a song on there called fuck the police and we think this song could encourage you know people to go against law enforcement blah blah that's and blah blah that and basically you know we'd like it if you guys took it off the shelf you know i'm saying to that tip so you know they call us up there you know they panicking and we don't know why they want to come they just like man you gotta come over we gotta talk to you get up there and it's like pull out this letter fbi and we're like it's like man do you know what this is this fucking agent he he sent me this letter and you know they was all like nervous and shit and we're looking like a letter that's all you get they're not gonna come in here and try to fuck with us like they're not gonna you know i mean arrest us cuff us rough us up none of that and we're like y'all scared over a fucking letter come back come back to south central with us you know i mean deal with the sheriffs down there you know i mean they do way more than give you a letter so we felt that it was like you know easy was like we're gonna be big as fuck after this and and and and but but the guys at the record company this was the first time they ever dealt with like pushback first time the government probably even knew they existed so they were freaked out and we uh we were like okay we was looking for them to raid our houses and shit like damn because we we're not seeing the bat around we're not seeing them run up in people houses on dope charges whatever you know especially in the late 80s early 90s that's like they got a kick out of just running up in people houses and shit so um we were like looking for that to come for the in the next you know next few weeks we was looking like oh they bought the his and it never happened so he was like what's the what's the issue what's the problem so it was just that letter and that was it just that letter and then we made the letter public and they kind of just backed off and shit and then it became this big story of you know the fbi hates this group i think we was on the cover like one of those you know new york magazines and it was like the fbi hates this group yeah look at this yeah fbi hates this man wow yeah easy was right yeah he was that's the letter wow look at that a song recorded by the rep group nwa on their album entitled straight out of Compton encourages violence and disrespect for law enforcement officer and has been brought to my attention i understand your company recorded and distributed this album and i am writing to share my thoughts and concerns with you advocating violence and assault is wrong and we in law enforcement community take the exception to such action violent crimes a major problem in our country reached an unprecedented high in 1988 78 law enforcement officers were feloniously slain in the feloniously slain the line of duty during 1988 four more in 1987 law enforcement officers dedicate their lives to protection of our citizens and recordings such as the one from nwa are both discouraging and degrading to these brave dedicated officers music plays a significant role in society and i'd want you to be aware of the fbi's position relative to this song and its message i believe my reviews reflect the opinion of the entire law enforcement community huh yeah never met this dude nah nah never interesting yeah 1988 was a different world and that was the first that was like the first moment of that where the you know we had heard that like the government and politicians were concerned about rap music without a doubt um and then it just you know they didn't come after me but all these other different agencies were starting to hit us up and you know they were going they start going after ice tea you know a little bit because he body count did a song called cop killer and um yeah you know it was it was uh it was a time when we grew up real fast we had to understand that you know this is bigger than hip-hop um and we gotta we gotta stand up for what we know is true and right it's like we're not making shit up you know go down you know um i've seen guys tell cops you know i mean take off that gun take off that badge and we can knuckle it up in the streets and do it like men and uh so you know we knew that sentiment was out there where people was really like yo um if you're not gonna if you're gonna act like a thug you know i'm saying let's thug it out you know i'm saying are you gonna act like an officer then we'll we'll we'll you know um you know we'll respect your authority you see what i mean so it was a lot of cops that we respected that came through that and they would treat us like you know real humans you know not like you know suspects you know i mean you don't want to buy come through just treat you like a suspect you ain't out here doing nothing these dudes uh so we knew some dudes that would come through and talk to us tell us you know y'all need to watch out be careful you know i'm saying and you know do anybody know something that happened around the corner and all these little stuff and we like nah nah nah but they was respectful and and we respected their authority then there was others that would come through you know look at your crazy uh harass you you know we was kids on the bikes we saw one day they came we were like eight nine years old man we on our bikes got our bikes laid down we made a ramp we all kicking on the grass resting looking at our bikes like their fucking motorcycles and shit like you know and um man sheriffs hit get the corner came all up on the grass and like get against the car all that you know bullshit and we kids they know we kids sitting on the bikes man what what you think we did you know i'm saying like rolled on some of my grass i mean what you think we out here doing yeah yeah so what was it like when the album came out like interacting with cops most of them was cool actually so most of them most of them said they listened to the song um in the movie we get ran out of detroit like they ran us off stage because we sung the song a lot of undercover police you know throwing m80s and shit on the yeah so we thought they were shooting at us so we run off they catch us they round us up and you know they like thought she was gonna come to detroit right talking that cop i mean that uh fuck the police shit and can't come through detroit talking that we should run you out of jail you know i mean we should lock y'all up and blah blah blah and we like listening we listening and he said um but if y'all got a couple pictures y'all got a couple eight by tens y'all sign it for my daughter we ain't gonna have no problems so you know we was pissed but we was like man easy was like get them t-shirts get them everything they need come on come on come on come on come on and so you know we signed and shit you know reluctantly you know but the concert's over yeah they they turned the concert out yeah i mean they they ran us off stage after three songs and they got pictures and then they got pictures and they got autographs for their daughters and they let us go they just said you can't come to detroit with that bullshit wow so it was only detroit that was the only place that fucked up Cincinnati they ran us off really man they would they would uh have us they would they before every concert the a sergeant or captain or somebody would come in with a city ordinance of what was obscene in their city in their town and what could be said on stage and what couldn't be said and if you say any of this or do any of this we will arrest you after your performance wow like what words i mean fuck mother fuck really um oh my god yeah it was the 1950s again yeah it was like on that tip um wow and this is 88 around that yeah 88 89 wow and we hit the stage we like man we would tell the audience you know what these motherfuckers told us backstage they said we couldn't say fuck we couldn't say shit we couldn't say this we couldn't say bitch you know i mean we're gonna start this off with a bitch is a bitch a bitch is a bitch you know so um we would do our shows you know sometimes they would just let us go and then sometimes you would like after the show you'd have to look and see the look in like the security and everybody facing you knew okay they on us so many a times we we come off stage but then we like switching jackets like people handing you jackets handing you different shirts and shit so you can put them on and walk through the backstage because now cops was like where they at you know we're those guys that was on stage and uh in cincinnati i had to i saw him coming i saw him all like looking around and i didn't have a chance to change my shit so they was looking for me and so uh i hit the exit i just i went outside i went outside the concert and it was people like flowing in and out and uh it was like cute what you doing out here i said man they looking for me he's like i jumped in the car with them like fans and shit i jumped in the car they drove me across the bridge just to uh kansas i mean uh kentucky is right across from cincinnati we sitting there waiting for anybody to drive up nobody drove up and they ended up driving me back to the hotel and then you got easy and dre where the fuck was you where'd you go man we all got citations and we gotta come back here they want us to fly back here to go to court and they couldn't they was looking for you they couldn't get you i was like man i dip i dip and i'm gonna dip again next show you know i'm saying it was it was crazy um did they have to go back they had to go back to court yeah they had to go back to court and fight it and what happened i don't remember because i end up leaving the group and i'm leaving the group so i don't really know what happened kind of after 89 with everybody you know wow what a wild time it's crazy crazy but fun like we were living the time of our lives because we never knew we was going to be this popular throughout the country we thought the records that we did were just local you know we was going to be you know hood stars you know i mean right there in our neighborhood people was going to love us but outside of Compton South Central Long Beach Watts we were like you know people they're not even gonna know what we're talking about right little did we know that everybody was kind of going through the same things that we were going through that's so wild so what like what was it like when it blew up i mean that had to be for you to be a young guy in this you know hip-hop just in general was relatively new yeah and for it to blow up that big that had to be a wild like change of your life it was you know because you think you think you're only going to be an underground artist like before we sold our records records like ours would be in the section with like the the Red Fox Records and the Richard Pryor the Eddie Murphy the Dirty you know you know comedy dirty comedy records that's where you would find these dirty hip-hop records and it was a few you know um it was a dude named um uh Blowfly Blowfly would have songs called he had a song he got one a song called Rap Dirty and like those kind of songs would be in this section that nobody went to unless you just wanted to laugh or something so we thought our records would end up there and that being and it just it just blew up MTV banned our straight out of Compton video and that blew the group up because people wanted to know why did they do something that even MTV was scared to show and so we went from thinking we were going to be in that little bend to they putting us in the front of the record store and promoting that you can get straight out of Compton here wow and so it just took us from you know that back of the store stuff to prime real estate how many records is straight out of Compton so um I don't know the exact end figure but even that while I was still in the group we was like two million records and then it was just growing so by now it's got to be up to at least four wow that had to be a fucking crazy experience to not think that that was ever going to happen and then boom it was you know controversial band in America we went from being straight locals to like being everywhere matter of fact I I went to school after I was in the group like I was like you know I can't I can't hang my hat on this I'm not gonna be able to live you know I mean on dirty rap records you know I'm saying can't play them on the radio you know only underground people are gonna hear it so I went off to a trade school Phoenix Arizona called uh Phoenix Institute of Technology where'd you go to learn architectural drafting really yeah wow yeah I took drafting in school and I dug it and sent some pampling in the mail you know if you want more information fill this out little postcard I filled it out and fucking showed up to my house and it was in there talking to my mother and father I'm like what the hell you're going to school what I gotta show I gotta no you're going to school like damn damn how long was that for a year wow yep yep fall up fall of 87 to the um fall of 88 wow so you got out of trade school and then the album blows up I mean we got out of trade school and then we was working on easy solo album easy does it his solo album came out right before nwa and that you know that blew him up and we were along for the ride so when the nwa record came and he was a part of the nwa group it just put a spotlight on on the group and then the record was crazy so just took it to the next level what was your earliest influences in hip-hop um curtis blow run dmc um sugar hill gang um um raccoon big daddy cane biz marquee salt and pepper you know like the greats all the greats beastie boys ll kujay for sure you know we loved ll like ll was the man always and so do you when was the first time you actually performed how old were you um I was probably 15 is that local thing yeah well you know we would do rap battles so we would go up to people's school and find out you know everybody didn't rap like like now everybody raps but back then it was like a niche group so we was we had honed our skills so we would go up to different high schools and hop defense and and nutrition and shit and like find a spot in battle you know me so it was it was fun i was like it was like a karate master looking for a spar you know we walking around it's like who go to that school can't they who rap over there who over here it's like man some dudes in my school man they can bust me y'all should come up here you know i was trying to set it up for friday y'all come up here friday hit the fence you know we bust and then y'all got to get out before you know i mean the counselors come you know i'm saying so we'd find ourselves going from different high schools we would ditch our own school to go up to different schools and and rap against people but um first time i really hit the stage we uh we did this contest called the best rappers of the west contest and um we entered our song and man we made it all the way to the finals they did the finals at the olympic auditorium in la that's what they used to do all the old wrestling matches and fights um so they used to roll a derby there too um thunderbirds and so we there we performed drake came you know drake was in the world class wrecking crew dj crew you know so everybody uh family friends and they messed up our tape like you know our music was instrumental but it was cassette and when they hit it it was in the wrong spot they didn't rewind it so we got it was off cue and then they had to rewind it and then start over the thrill was gone we lost we lost we came in second place and so that was my first taste of you know hitting the stage you knew that's what you wanted to do i loved it you know i had a great time yeah i did and hanging with drake more and more you know he saw us that night he knew we had got kind of robbed a little bit and he was like we'll let you we'll let y'all perform at doodles which is the club he deejayed in Compton it's right there on central bou central avenue and um we went down there you know it's it's a party i mean full of bloods it's like full of Compton bloods pyro's all through this place this is right in their neighborhood and Dre is like y'all better be good y'all better be good man these dude i don't know what they're gonna do they might throw shit at you you know i want to fuck you up y'all better be good that's all he kept saying so we were like damn we gotta think of something clever we gotta be good we gotta be good so we started doing parody raps we'd take the hit song and do a dirty version of it rock sand rock sand was the hit song that was out utfo and we we made a song called diane diane and it was dirty version of it it went crazy it went crazy so we knew like oh damn this this is a style like we can we can do our own raps hardcore like this we don't have to try to be you know fat boys we don't try to have to try to be uh yeah these we can just give it to them raw how they want it talk about the neighborhood you know yeah that's what we start doing so that's interesting like that so that sort of led to the way the band became doing that show yeah yeah and doing that show we see i wasn't in nwa i had my own group so we start working with easy and nwa is actually an all-star group it's it's easy kind of plucking different people from different groups putting them together and saying we're gonna make we're gonna huddle up and make these dirty records and then after we finish y'all can go back and make y'all clean little records that's kind of how nwa was formed wow yeah so they grabbed ray and yellow from wrecking crew they grabbed me i was in a group called stereo crew we changed our name to cia criminals in action but lonzo made us call ourselves crew in action because he was like nobody gonna buy a record that's like criminals so so and then you had easy you know i mean so we formed nwa rain come came later when i went to school that's when rain came mc rain so yeah and then what happened is we do the record it blow up and everybody say uh tell the groups amen this shit is popping in no way in the world we are going back to being nobody in our groups you know i mean we gotta run with this and it just i'm still running with it euro is known for your lyrics you're a great writer like if you did you always have that ability do you wait did you write before you wrote lyrics yeah but you know what i what i did when i was young you know the teachers would always ask like well okay what you do over someone vacation what'd you do right right down what you guys do so mine would be thorough you know i would be able to really explain everything that i did and they were really impressed my teachers were impressed that i could remember all that and put it in a comprehensive form where they can read you know my whole summer really and so by getting those kind of you know extra credit for being good or you know teacher hang your stuff up there you know you're like okay i can do this i could do this same with art you know and i actually they had me do a speech doing my sixth grade graduation like they asked me would you go up there and address the graduation class so you know the writing that speech these things i knew okay i could i could put words together and i could speak him in front of a crowd and it wasn't a nightmare so when it was time to rap and time to rhyme which was a couple years later when i turned 14 then i was able to put it together and feel like okay i know how to write and i know how to rap so jump in front of the crowd get busy that's amazing that's that's that's so interesting that that's the genesis of your writing because it makes sense because like your writing was always so thorough well thought out you know and when you went solo that was like very evident it was very evident like this is great fucking writing like the that the lyrics back then like that's my favorite era yeah hip-hop is like early 90s late 80s early 90s like in the east coast like cool mo dee yeah yeah yeah prolific yeah set the bar you know those guys started to set the bar higher and higher and you know you had to keep up to even get attention so yeah you know those early pioneers of hip-hop even ll was you know amazing lyricists wordsmith you know the original rock the bills he's another guy has done everything yeah he's uh movies i call him you know the hip-hop lebron you know he he's been doing this since he was 15 at the highest level and never came down you know so it still looks great yeah still you know looks like um superstar yeah so it's cool you know to find you know to be friends with these guys that uh that i looked up to so much as a youngster that was there was a weird time though the east coast versus west coast shit yeah very weird yeah it was um you know people equated to Tupac and shit i mean and bad boy and defro but it was actually bubbling before that it was to me an industry thing in a way like new york had the throne for so long and here you go well at least a decade or more and here comes these west coast rappers you know kind of taking attention away and so the the the industry people it started to bubble up with them that yo we're doing real hip-hop they're just doing gangster records you know and so that started to to kind of get into the artists you know i mean that that that sentiment started to poison the artists and the artist named tim dog did a song called fuck compton like out of nowhere we was like damn we we like new york why y'all you know why why he take a shot and nobody really rebutted him like you know they kind of let it slide and then more and more artists start taking shots here and there and and then the thing with bad boy and defro it kind of just took it over the top it just made it because they were the hottest labels you had the hottest label on the east coast battling with the hottest label on the west coast so that made that undercurrent of animosity that was growing blow all the way up it looked like it was a feud how did that ever get resolved i think when when a tupac got killed and then biggie was murdered shortly after people realized this is a dead end road like people stopped listening really to east coast and west coast at that time and that's how the immersion of the south came you know the south was there bubbling they was doing their thing they had groups that were that was making a dent but at one point all the hip-hop fans were so fed up with the east coast west coast beef that they said you know we're just gonna pay attention to what the south is doing you guys gotta heal your wounds and come back and so that's the emergence of the south and you know all the groups that came out back then were you were you touring on the east coast yeah so what was it like when you were touring on the east coast in the middle all that shit um i mean it was always love you know i mean some fans took sides but most most of it was you know industry stuff and they were kind of caught in the middle so and i did a i did a record called you know bow down with the west side connection which we addressed a lot of the beef because we felt like most of the industry was in new york at the time so we felt like we didn't stand up for ourselves in some way shape or form what we accomplished the last decade would be erased and eroded and dismissed discredited and we wouldn't we would be played out you know i mean we wouldn't have longevity so you know there was you know back and forths but at the end of the day you know Tupac being killed biggie being killed was just a wake-up call for the whole industry that's sad that that's how that's how the wake-up call had to go it's crazy crazy yeah i mean that i remember i was uh on news radio on the set of news radio when someone told me Tupac got killed everything how is that possible how is that real um yeah i just you know it was a new day like it's like oh we we're in a new era where celebrity means nothing you know celebrity means nothing anybody can get it yeah so it's damn near like we back where we started from back in the hood you know trying not to get it and here you're a celebrity and you can still get it how dangerous did that feel to you back then um you know no more dangerous than it feels when any of people you know any person i know gets shot you know it feels like you know damn you know this never ends um i don't remember taking any more precaution than i usually would um but i knew people you know some dudes was getting bulletproof trucks and shit and bulletproof vans and all this stuff i was like nah ain't going to that extent it's just a crazy time in music history too because you know there'd never been like rock bands that were feuding with each other the point where you were worried about people getting murdered no not that i know of um you know rock bands do feud they usually don't do diss records either right you know they just feud or they have subliminal subliminal disses it's never like the diss record thing was wild that was really the first time artists ever went after each other like that yeah it's uh but you know it's it's like it's like spawn it's like battle it's like you know it's part of the game so it's welcomed in a way um you know you you spar you practice you know how to fight and then somebody getting your face in challenge you like okay this is what we do there's a rumble you know i'm saying so it's like you grow battling you know you got your raps you say you cocky shit you know i mean and somebody want to you know put it on wax and battle like we can battle on wax any day you know i'm saying so let's go for it when did it feel like for you all that shit sort of like went away like the feud stuff the every when did it seem like it was just back to just making music um for some reason i think uh like 9 11 like that tragedy of 9 11 for some reason like it seemed like from then the feuding stopped and um people kind of reassessed and reorganized their thought process when it comes to that like they it was like that that's when it seemed like a ceasefire just was the best thing to do because you know the like the country went through a crazy shake up yeah yeah and um it's a trip you know you had groups like you know rocking a red white and blue and he was like into you know you know patriotism and really uh into you know uh oh you know we got other forces out there that's trying to take down new york city you know i mean we can't can't be hating on right on new york after that like we all gotta band together that was the sentiment it's crazy that sometimes it takes something like that like a national tragedy to wake people up to what's really important yeah major shake up so how the fuck did you go from nwa your solo career and then movies and then family movies like was that was there like a resistance for that people like did you listen to his old shit you know i mean because people were taking their kids to see those movies and then those kids became ice cube fans and then they go into your old shit like wow yeah i mean it's a great um it's kind of like you know they're caught in the ice cube vortex in a way you know saying because um here's how it happened like um here's how it happened like i'm in the nwa i go solo i'm just trying to be the best rapper in the world that's all i'm concerned about and i meet this kid john singleton who's an intern i meet him at the arsenio hall show he's an intern there i'm there to talk to arsenio to say dude you had two live crew on why don't you have nwa on so never had that conversation with arsenio because john singleton is talking my ear off and he's like i'm a junior at usc i'm put you in a movie i'm like dude what i'm not an actor you know i mean i thought you had to go to juliard for 18 years to be an actor so i'm like what what you talking about man nah and then he pursued me two years dude two years he and then he finally said yo um i got the movie you know we're gonna do it and and so that was boys in the hood so he discovered me that's how i got into movies and when we doing that movie he's saying when you're gonna write a movie like what dude what are you talking about why you keep hitting me with this stuff that i don't do he said man you can write a song like that you can write a movie like that i'm like okay i go by a computer that same day and final draft which is a script writing and i'm like okay i'm gonna write a movie like a draft which is a script writing and i started writing a script like don't know one thing about writing a script just start writing one and it was terrible but he helped me he just kept telling me keep writing keep more pages just keep going till you finish it and um long story short end up a few years later writing friday okay friday 1995 comes out big cult classic um so as i as the years go on i got these little kids coming to me doing all these cuss lines from friday like what's your little ass doing watching friday you know so so i did i did another movie called barbershop now that's an already comedy friday so i do barbershop it's good reaction people love it it's pg-13 so the movie is bigger because it it appeals to a bigger audience um so i'm like damn we was able to work it at rated r we able to work it at pg-13 what if i did a pg movie because i still got little kids coming to me talking about you gotta knock the fuck out of me seven right i need to do something for your little seven-year-old ass so you don't have to go watch friday you know what i mean you should be watching friday when you get about 11 12 not seven so i was like you know i was with revolution uh joe roff over revolution and he was like yo we got this movie that adam sandler was going to do but he can't do it will you take a look at it i'll see y'all take a look at it and it was already are we there yet i'm like oh this is a kids movie you know he's like yeah that's okay i think i can you know tailor make it where it fits me but yeah let's give it a try and we do it and of course everybody go ape shit like cube you gangster what you're doing these kids movies for what's wrong with you what the hell's going on man you don't got some all this stuff they was talking right so movie comes out and kids like lose their mind they love the movie so now this is the vortex right they come in they love are we there yet five six seven eight eight by the time they get 10 or 11 somebody doesn't show them barbershop or maybe friday so they they they love me from are we there yet now they love me from friday and then somebody says listen to this and hands them my music when they get about 15 14 and they say i love this guy and then i got fans all ages who love ice cube because they've been like walked up from are we there yet to barbershop to friday to my music which is a whole different animal i don't think there's anybody else like that that has that varied of a career um i don't know i haven't thought about it but it's pretty cool and dynamic you know i know i met your daughter she's 27 yeah and first thing she was exposed to was i'm only there yet yeah she's a fan you know i'm saying so that movie was a way to stay connected to the younger generation always without the parents saying do you know who this is right this is ice cube he used to be blah blah blah blah blah blah now the kids know who i am before the parents even have to point it out yeah so it's been a great thing for my career as far as longevity and gaining new fans without necessarily having to have an a new hit record right right right we have a giant library of content yes yeah yeah and this it's cool because you know there's always gonna be kids always gonna be new kids so there's gonna be something for parents to try to shove them fun to watch to take their time and are we there here is a cool option you know i'm saying so and then we did are we done yet and you know people are asking me when you're gonna do the next one i'm like y'all want a third one okay let's think about it you gotta do a third one we'll see we gotta talk to joe and revolution and you know get it right when i found out that you wrote friday i was like that's insane that's incredible yeah me and me and dj poo that's a funny fucking movie yeah yeah it is you know i mean dj poo he's one of those he's like one of those undercover geniuses that been in he'd been involved in a lot of hip i mean he he helped ll do going back to cali you know i mean like he's been around forever and we're all fans of poo you know i'm saying and poo is funny he technical he he's the one who who got rockstar to do the grand theft artist grand theft auto san andres that whole you know like take it from miami and put it in la you know i mean take it from the miami dope culture to the la gang culture so he's the one who's behind the scenes with stuff like that and he helped me write friday he produced uh it was a good day the song um so whenever we together it's just magic and uh we wrote friday because we were watching uh in living color um and we love hollywood shuffle by robert towns and and uh we was like let's write a let's write a movie about the neighborhood like because everything that was coming out was depressing you know it was colors boys in the hood minister society south central it was like yo this is hell zone and we was like i didn't did you remember it like that or don't we laugh around here all the time like let's let's show how it really is for us around here and so that's how friday kind of terminations became like yo we're gonna show our version of what how we have fun in south central that is an all-time classic yeah it's it's uh it's a movie that i get commented on more than any other like people quote it love it yeah the characters are iconic um people dress up when you know you got a line like you got knocked the fuck out that gets repeated for decades yeah yeah i mean i knew i knew it was one of those lines because i had never heard it in a movie before when somebody got knocked out and i'm like yeah this is what he gonna say when he jump over him and look down on him like you got knocked the fuck out how many times you seen that on a world yeah yeah how many times you seen that a world star hip-hop now though all the time it's just that everybody yells yeah someone goes down it's automatic it's automatic yeah you know all you know that's as as an artist that's all you want is to have a couple classics that people remember you for you know when you 80 in a cafe you know drinking coffee somebody run up be like yo craig what's up yeah i mean that's that's all you want that's amazing what do you and you could do whatever the fuck you want now what do you enjoy what do you enjoy doing most um creating you know on all levels like that's what get my juices going is being in the lab the creative process uh whether it's music movies uh you know tv you know documentaries or you know sports it's being it's being creative it's it's being part of the mix um when i go on movies and i'm just an actor you know i'll be like damn this is so boring yeah just sitting around waiting to act you know i like to be in the producer's meetings i like to know what's going on what's on the set do do we get that stunt is you know we're gonna still do that stunt at three o'clock you know i just need to be part of the mix to stay you know motivated and interested you know i mean but if i'm just a piece of the puzzle and kind of sitting off to the side waiting to be used like a tool like yeah it's not as cool for me understandable yeah why would it be and you don't have to do that anymore yeah you know so i wanna i want to be in the mix you know i want to be in the kitchen cooking it i don't just want to sit down and eat it no matter what it is no matter what it is if i'm gonna be a part of it i gotta be in the kitchen i can't just play a playa look i've acted in movies you know i did 21 jump street i did uh three kings you know where i'm just an actor and i'm fine with that you know don't think okay we can't hire q because he just want to produce but but i like to produce and i think i add a lot to to the movies that i produce and the movies i produce you can watch over and over and over again and never get tired yeah no it's a you've had an amazing career so when you just decided you just do you kind of just do whatever you're interested in now like whatever you feel like pursuing yeah that's a beautiful freedom it is because you know i'm not playing the game no more like i don't play the radio game like how many spins did i get on that song how many spins i look at ice cube fans like clientele i just want to serve them give them what they like give them what they love and go back to the lab i'm not i'm not worried about charts and all these measuring sticks on if you're good or not or is your work good you know views or whatever i'm into doing dope that i feel and giving it to the people that want it that's beautiful it's great for artists it's a beautiful life it's pretty um i'm pretty blessed in that aspect because i know guys and i know people who are bigger than me on major labels with in there miserable because they they're so scheduled and structured and they feel obligated because you know this and that going on and and i don't want to feel obligated when i'm making music to the people who's spending money i want to make the music i feel and if you like it spend money on it well you have a very wise philosophy on how to live your life because like just the way you just like talking about rich people it's a lot of rich people that are miserable as fuck you don't want to be rich you want to be happy yes you'd rather be less rich and more happy without a doubt um like whatever it is you know whatever it is man it's more important to be happy doing it yeah and i notice when you i notice when you're happy doing things and when you when you love what you do and when you put your all into it you know the money comes when you focus on the money and you're doing things to get the money you're never happy doing it or rarely happy doing it and at the end of the day you wish you could have got more money so yeah not even happy with what you would pay it also doesn't resonate with people the same way it resonates with people when you do what you love when you do what you love and it comes out especially when when you're talking about music yeah you do what you love people get it they feel it they feel it from the work yeah and if you're just doing it because you're hoping it's going to be successful people feel that too yeah or just doing what you think is a hit that's the worst thing uh the worst thing an artist can do is to go try to make a hit you got to make a good song damn if it's a hit yeah good song is a good song whether it's played a thousand times or once you know that's what you focus on making good music and whether it's a hit or not that's you know that's in the stars you know what do you think you got this wisdom to look at things so objectively and clearly um i i think you know when i look at how i grew up like my pops is an independent man independent thinker it's not part of any club or any organization or any fraternity or any gang or any it's no man that can come and tell him what to do unless he's at work so um i like that and i saw him stand on his own two feet you know from he he moved to l.a when he was 19 years old from louisiana and so he's been a man that handled his business from day one so um i think he's the foundation of of how i view things um and and living and and being young thrown into the fire you know seem like every time i look up there's something that uh that needs my focus and attention that's trying to take down what i've built so i um i'm always paying attention you know i never i never um i never go in something blind and i you know i try to understand all the angles before i make a decision that's very fortunate you had a father like that i am you know i thank him all the time for just hanging around you know the statistics are what they are um and as men we gotta we gotta raise our kids you know i mean we gotta be there um and as much as we can is and um it makes a difference it makes a difference with the person that you're raising and the person that you're sending out into the world you know you want to give you want to give your family stability and fathers can do a lot of that they can do a lot of that yeah it's uh it's gotta feel great for you to see your son taking off like this you know like with the wisdom that you got from your father that your son is obviously he's acquired that as well they worked hard it's great man you know all you want to do is you want your kids to step up in the moment of truth you know i mean you want them to do what it takes at the time that it's mandatory or the you know the situation arise that they can step up even if it's taking out the trash like you tell your kid hey you know take out the trash when i get back i want this done and when you get back and it's done you feel better as a parent yeah you know i mean you feel like okay they stepped up when they needed to when i asked them to and make you feel good that you you know got people that that you're sending out in the world that are dependable and responsible and not trying to fuck over nobody yeah fuck yeah no that's that's one of the greatest accomplishments you can make as a human being you you made the world better by raising better people yeah raise good people and um you know that's that's that's the number one job of a parent i believe is to raise a good person because the world don't need another asshole trust me we don't need another one we got plenty yeah we got plenty we're all full yeah show show but it's also great that you you set a standard with uh maybe people that don't even have a father figure that you set a standard with your words the way you talk about things that address things and think about things and you're so thorough that you set a standard with other young kids that admire you too which is beautiful that's good you know that's great you know and i'm i'm blessed to be in a position to do that um i want to do that you know if you you know i hope i'm a good example on you know i have fun with the music and entertainment and this and that but you know i want to be a solid person you know i mean that say what i mean mean what i say and do what i say and um you know all you got is your balls and your word man sit tony montana that's all you got yeah well no you've you've done it and you've done it in an amazing way you've you set a great standard appreciate it man um you have too you know you you are a great um communicator you know i mean and people need to hear somebody with courage speak for the people when others are so scared too you know some of the things that that you said today you know a lot of people would be scared to even bring that stuff up man well it's what you said if you can you should when you got the mic use it and i can so i do yeah got the mic use it someone has to it's a wild ass fucking time it is man and we need we need people to step up that we trust you know we we don't need no more people to let us down that we believe in it you know absolutely well listen brother i appreciate you very much it was an honor to have you in here i've been a giant fan since the 80s which is crazy and uh i just uh i appreciate everything you do man appreciate you too man you know you're great at what you do um you got me into you got me into ufc you're gonna watch next weekend yeah i'm gonna watch folk and asking yahir rodriguez whoo it's your it's your passion for the sport your knowledge of the sport your breakdown your ability to to go back and say you know the origin of this move and the origin of this move really got me into the game so you you know you're a excellent communicator and i appreciate you letting me know show my pleasure it was an honor thank you very much yeah all right bye everybody