Nikki Glaser I Can Empathize with Louis CK's Situation

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Nikki Glaser

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Nikki Glaser is an American stand-up comedian, podcast host, and television host. Look for her podcast "You Up with Nikki Glaser" available on Spotify.

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It's very difficult to get comics cancelled unless they're doing something. I know, you gotta get... I mean even Aziz, which I think he got a fucking terrible deal. Like what happened with him was terrible. It sounded like a bad date. It sounds like one person's account of it and he didn't give his account of it and you know he just tried to stay supportive of Me Too and all that jazz but that guy got devastated. Oh that was really... He got wrecked by that. Yeah. He was really wrecked and his special is a great indication of it. You see his recent special. It's like a giant apology. I haven't seen it yet but... I mean he's a funny guy and he didn't get cancelled. He's still doing shows and everything but Aziz is a Louis CK. He's still doing shows but those guys are an example... Louis Morso, right? He's an example because people are protesting. No one's protesting Aziz. You know he had a bad date. But Louis to this day is still getting protested. People show up at his shows. Every time he does a show somewhere they print articles about it. No, who cares? He's fine. I don't care. You don't care about him or you don't care? He's fine. He'll be fine. Yes. But emotionally. Sure. You don't care? Emotionally I think he's going to be fine. I think it's all... You're going to upset some people. They're going to protest but it's not going to affect your ticket sales or how much people love you and he knows that and he's going to be quite alright. It's not the people that do love him. It's the people that hate him. There's always going to be a certain amount of people that do love you. Even if you're a terrible person. If you're like, look, Donald Trump is one of the things that's fascinating about him to me is that he's the king of the assholes. He's a self-avowed asshole. It's very obvious that he's an asshole. And then other assholes are like, finally we've got an asshole speaking for us. They want to wear sunglasses inside and yell shit. This is what he attracts. Even if you're an asshole, you're going to get a bunch of people who love you. If you're in a public eye, people choose cult leaders. They don't choose them for their positive qualities. They get sucked into this idea of this person liking them and being on a team with this person. And if that person's a strong person, it's even more intoxicating. Donald Trump's a strong person. Celebrities are strong people. Celebrities are famous. Everybody hates you, Louie, but I support you. You're going to have those, no matter what you've done. There's people out there that still show up at R. Kelly's trial and they have post signs and say, we support you. Those bitches knew what they were in for. Really, this is something that's going on right now to this day. It's because people get incredibly drawn to someone who's in a position of fame and power like Donald Trump or anybody. And Louie's one of those too. It's not that the people who love him don't always love him. People love Louie before and they forgive him for what he's done, but there's going to be people that don't. Those people that don't, they write articles and if he reads them, it burns on you and it hurts you. He's a super sensitive guy. All this stuff, he's going to be fine, yes. But it's still devastating. It's not. Yeah, but didn't he cause a little bit of devastation in some people's lives perhaps? For sure. Eye for an eye. And I really think the women, the angry people who don't like him or aren't going to show us wouldn't have gone to them anyway. And yeah, it's going to hurt to get that Google alert for your name. You gotta turn off that feed. One out of 10 articles is maybe negative about you, but he's doing all right. I talked to him after it one night at the Comedy Cellar and he told me some examples of things that have been said to him in public. Because I just asked him, I was like, what has it been like for you? This is right when he came out of hiding. And he told me some stories of things that had happened in public where a woman once whispered in his ear, you fucking piece of shit. He's at a store or something. And then another one where just a woman blatantly in the street was like, fuck you. And it was like, oh my fucking God, this is a nightmare for you walking outside your house. And I'm like, so this is, oh no, this is only two times of the whole year. And I was like, oh, okay, well, that seems manageable. And he goes, he says, but 10 times a day people are still asking for my picture in autograph. So it's pretty good. So I don't think he's suffering that much. And I don't think he deserves to suffer that much. I'm just saying, I think as many people hate him as maybe would have anyway, because no one can be famous for too long without people hating them. Well, you know what he said a big one was? A big one was that Parkland thing, that joke that he made that got released. He said that, that really really fucked him up. That really fucked him up. The response to that. Because it was after, you know, he had just started to stand up again after 10 months off. And then he did that joke about the Parkland survivors about like, why are they interesting? And because you pushed a fat kid in front of, cause you survived. Like you're laughing. See, it's a fucked up thing that someone would say at a comedy club. When you take that out of context, then people get angry at it. But that is a classic Louis CK line. I mean, that sounds exactly like most of his act. We would have celebrated him before this whole thing. But now he's walking a fine line. He can't. Also the very beginnings, the embryonic stages of a bit and that bit could have been a monster bit. Totally. You're so right. That was the first incarnation of that. No stand up at all for 10 months. And then he's got this bit and he's working on it and he's got an angle. The angle is why are we, these survivors, just because they survived doesn't mean they're interesting. That's true. Love it. It is true. Great bit. It could have been an amazing bit, but some fuckhead had to record it and then put it on YouTube. And then you got guys like Judd Apatow yelling out about it, like as if this is like Louis final statement on the subject. And it's this especially by other comics like that. I found that whole thing to be so fucked up. It's like, you know what a bit is and you know, when someone's trying, like, don't you ever try out new bits? I've said some stuff on stage where I even say to the crowd, listen, that didn't come out right. That was the first. Don't please don't tell anyone that I just said that. Will you all be just cool? Of course. So I definitely understand that. And I understand saying things that make people feel really sad and angry and they feel hurt by it and they write mean things to me saying that I've hurt their feelings and it feels shitty when people hate you. So I do feel for him that way. I do. And that's why I asked him like, what is it like? You're the most beloved and then you were hated. I mean, that's gotta fucking suck. And he said he would have gone to Africa to disappear or wherever, you know, somewhere to disappear, but his kids, he couldn't leave. And so he had to sit around with it. So I mean, I sympathize. I sympathize or I can empathize with that for sure. And that would suck.