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Colin Quinn

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Colin Quinn is a stand-up comic, on-air personality, actor, and author of several books, among them "Overstated: A Coast to Coast Roast of the 50 States." www.colinquinn.com

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Hello, Colin Quinn. Hello, Joe. Joe, that was fun last night. Let me just stop by saying what a fun time at the club. The green room and everything else. And I talking to your head of security at the club. Here's what I love about the club. I worked the club. I had a great weekend, a couple of months ago. Is they keep the audience in line. Nobody's heckling without getting booted. Is that not the most important thing in comedy that nobody talks about? It's very important. It's unbelievable. And unfortunately, there's so many crowd work clips that get put out on Instagram. Right. Like, the people are now thinking that they wanna be a part of the show. And so I see people much more often chiming in and yelling things out and they think they're gonna be a part of things. Yeah. And even when you go, when you try to be nice on the first line, you go, that was okay, sir. Then they try again, you're like, listen, you pee. Oh my God, but that's why I love it at your club. Everybody there just has the energy, like, we're gonna tell you right now, another word you're out. That's how it should be. Right. Nobody's ever heckled once. Nobody heckles sober either. And nobody heckles sober. And they just like to start trouble. And the green one was fun. And even though I didn't go on, I was sitting and going, because you have to understand the language, where I was like, you want to go on, I go, I don't really want to go on. You go, that's cool. But really, then you I was supposed to say the crowd really went to your goal. And I'm like, Joe, I don't want to bump anybody. No, you wouldn't be bumping anybody. We'll just cut Tony's time down. Joe, I don't want to be that guy. You're like, don't be ridiculous. Oh, I have to dance with you. Go on. I didn't know you wanted to dance. If you wanted to dance tonight, no, I got to leave would love to get you are you performing tonight? No, no [2:11] Maybe I could change my flight. Well, let's say maybe I could change it move it around. This place lights out of Austin It's a wonderful hub. It is it's great. It keeps booming every time I was here less. How much is COVID? Yeah, I don't think it's gonna get too much bigger and up peak you think so. Yeah, yeah, I think you think Shane Gillis was the last citizen they allowed in? No, there's a few more coming. Joe DeRosa just got a place here. He did? Yeah, and Joey Diaz is getting a place here. I can't believe the two Joe Diaz are gonna be here. Let's go. That's great. Joe Diaz and Joe DeRosa is a fierce combination. I know, but I spoke to Joe DeRosa chicken place because of Joe Dorosa. Really? Why? Because when he recommended it, it just bugged me, his confidence when he goes, he got to try this chicken place. And I was like, Gus is fried chicken. I know. It's phenomenal. I just don't like the Joe's position himself as the new gastronomic expert in government. Right, because he owns a sub shop. [3:00] By the way, it's a good sub shop though. I heard it's amazing. It's fucking great. It's fucking great. He brought some over when they were doing moondower. He was in town. He brought some subs over. They were fucking tremendous. He's got a great place. Yeah. I always look at the Instagram photos. I'm like, oh my god, they look so good. They said the bread's amazing. Everything's amazing. He makes a great sub. He's obviously, it's a labor of love. He's a professional comic, it's a side thing. I like sandwiches, let's make a sandwich shop. He knocked it out of the park, everybody goes with big subs, not expensive. The name Joey Rose is just good. It's great, it's great. It's anger producing in some ways, but in a lot of ways for you. You have a thing with him I think. With Joe? Yeah. I try to have a thing with everybody. That's my thing, Joe. I like to have a thing with you. If you had studied, just, if you had just studied straight karate and warranted to MMA, maybe I could have a thing with you, but let's face it, you don't play games. I do play games. You're not to be taken lightly. Yeah. What about the, yeah, before he came down here, I was, because in New York, it's so funny, [4:10] when the green room last night, all I wanted to do was bus balls with everybody. Like that's what I live for. It's fun, you know. And when he sees Shane Gillis in there, Shane Gillis is just that guy. He's so big. I just want you to, I want you to make, I want you to lock him in a, in a basement. I just feed him like red meat and make him train MMA for like two years and just eat masculine and red meat. I just become a stone cold killer. Wow. That's my dream. I got him working out. For sure. Yeah, I know. He looks so yesterday, he said he'd be running. We did two hard days. Well, look how big he is. It's a big fuck. Yeah. Big old football player, kid. If I was as big as him, I wouldn't be a comic. No? I'd be an animal. I'd be working at security at the club. Some people shut up. Tony's trying to do something of that. Yeah. [5:06] Comedy's like, it's got an anger to it, don't you think? A little bit. Yeah, it's got to. Well, there's just so much resistance. It's so difficult to get through. Yeah. It's a lot of fucking running up that river. Yeah. Ah. What about, yeah, even the way, even the way we talked to each other, like I'm at the cell of the other night. So here's what happened. So I'm just sitting there, keet is there, no it's there. So I just give the waitress. First of all, I'm like the synotryp tipping. I didn't want to bring this up but now I'm bringing it up because it's part of the story. So I tip them but I always put it there because I'm trying not to flash how much I tip. Right. So I'm trying to do it like that You're tipping. You're not part of the rat pack. They just are trashing me. 10 minutes. Meanwhile, but I'm only doing that so you cheap bastards don't look bad. You know? I understand. Yeah. This is a daily thing. I enjoy tipping myself. Yeah. I can see you're a high roll. It's like a little love bomb. Give a little love bomb. [6:00] Yes. An extra few dollars in it makes the home day. You don't even feel it Makes people happy. I always try to tell my cheap friends like you got to get over that. Yeah, fuck that 15% What are you doing? I agree? There's a lot of chisels. Yeah, don't make a chiseler and they think of excuses Yeah, you see that attitude Yeah, I give people big tips and they give me shitty service That's what to be happy. Yeah. Yeah. You can give them a little happiness. And maybe they'll be nicer to the next people and use the butterfly effect. Well, it's only not working for the planet right now. Let's face it. We're all right. I think the problem is we're inundated with bad news constantly. Yeah. That's the real problem. And then, you know, there's also like the problems in cities. Yeah. Well, everywhere. I mean, you know, you just did a special, by the way, about, it's releasing tomorrow. It's about, I did it in front of a psychiatrist's convention. [7:00] Did you really? Yeah. Wow. I just did it. And I found I saw it out of psychiatrist convention and went there and said Hey, would you guys let me go on just do my shoot my special in front of you? They said sure so I did a whole thing then they analyzed me afterwards and it was funny What what room was it at? It was a boring room like one of those convey You know it was like a Washington DC, some hotel off the beaten path, where they were just having to convention. And they did not plan on you being there. No. And so you knew they were gonna be there at that time. Yeah. And you coordinated with them, set up cameras the whole deal. Did you inform them before, like the psychiatrists beforehand? They were gonna be a part of a comedy special. Well, they were, they were welcome to come to the show and not, but yeah, we told them before, you know, if you come, you might be on film, but yeah, they didn't have to show up. Obviously, here for them probably showed up, but it was, it was a great idea. That's a great idea. Yeah, I think it was because it's about the world how we're having a psychotic break, or we're talking about the planet, so it was kind of fun for. The whole specials built around it. [8:05] It's so much more discussed. The bad news is so much more discussed. People's problems are so much more discussed. Having problems is so much more a thing that people love to talk about now. It makes you more interesting. It gives you something to talk about. And it's just so pervasive. And I think social media has just broken people's brains. Social media started as a fun ant kitchen where everybody was being positive and saying like, hey, you know, dance between the raindrops and then suddenly somebody was like, shut up bitch, you fat bitch. Fuck you when the raindrops. And it just unleashed all of us. Yeah. That's what I say. It's like, you don unleashed that part of people. And here's the other thing which I think you'll be interested in. It's the first time in history you can threaten people and curse them out and not have to run or have a physical confrontation. So fight-of-flight instinct is going to be eliminated from our genetics into generations. [9:02] Yeah, not just that, but also you don't feel bad. Like if you say something shitty to someone, you see the look on their face. Even if you feel like you should have done it, when you're alone at night, you might be like, I didn't have to do that. Why did I do that? What a fucking asshole I am. I gotta apologize. Then you'll see him the next day, like I was out of line. I'm sorry. I was dealing with a lot of shit. You know, my mom, my sister, my this, my not. Sorry, I'm sorry. But there's none of that. You don't even know these people too. You don't have to say, you can't just say the most evil mean shit, vicious shit. Look through their pictures. Look at you, you fat fuck and you're fucking toothless smile and. And they used to have gossip magazines, like if celebrities in the 1950s, that's when they started to realize people love to read bad, scandalous stuff. But now you get to respond. You're like the writer and the reader of the gossip magazine. You know what I do enjoy though, when people don't understand how it works, [10:01] and they'll post something and just get smashed in the comments, and then they'll start going back and forth to people in the comments like what are you doing? Yeah. What are you doing? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well, one of the biggest problems is people, this is one of many of them, trying to be funny that they've never had to, they've always thought they were kind of funny and then they go in and try to be funny. And they get away with a couple because they have two people that go, hey, that was good. They start to think I'm funny. And then they get in there and people just start destroying them for trying to be funny. Because they're not used to the heckling that way you still. We got trained out of all our hack habits. Mm-hmm. Comedy trains you the audience trains you and being around and being one of the Comics what the fuck was that Regulation yeah, it does it does yeah, you get feedback. Yeah feedback's important positive and negative It's all of the level. Yeah, who gets more feedback than comics? We get like real live feedback [11:02] Hundreds of people every night you Every night. You got feedback last night. Just last night. You can't live in a theoretical world of like, I think this is funny. I think this is good. You're getting feedback. Yeah. You know. It's fun though. Don't you still enjoy it? It's the best. It's the only honest reaction you could get in today. There's nothing virtual about it. The most honest form of entertainment because you write it, you perform it, you produce it, you edit it. I was saying how easy doing sitcoms was when I first started doing sitcoms. I go there great writers. They write you great jokes. You don't even have to work hard. I was talking about how bad my acts suffered during those days because when I was first on a sitcom in 94 we were working like 12 hours a day. News radio. It was long, long, long days. It's by the end of day I'm exhausted. So if I did go up it was just the same old material which is rehab. I wasn't connected to it anymore. I was like flat. [12:01] You know. And because when they're writing for you, it's so much easier. Like the jokes are already there. All you have to do is like add your little sauce to them. It's great. It's gonna flare them up a little bit. I know, I guess so jealous of the idea of like the old days comedians would just have writers. Oh yeah. Like what do you got for me? We gotta go out and think of this stuff. A few people still do that, right? A few of you guys do. Like I know obviously the guys who host talk shows do. Yeah. You know, you can't write a new monologue every day. You'd be out of your mind or you'd be out of your mind. I did on Tough Crowd. You wrote that every moment? No, I'm not saying most of them didn't bomb, but I did write them all myself. No shit the best part of it was you warming up the crowd. I was like, why don't they show this? This is funnier than the rest of the whole show. It was so good. That's, it's so good. It was fun and that crowd was crazy. They would come like a lot. Well, I was living in California at the time and I just like sometimes I forget. Sometimes you know, sometimes you haven't seen a guy in a while and you're like, God damn, I forgot how funny it comes. Right, right, right. You know, you just, you need to see it. You need to see them live. [13:06] You do, you need to go out and see it. Yeah, just get in your head. It's the best thing. I mean, I've been doing it for so long, but I still love it. I love it. I love crowds. I love watching it. two is you can't, if you don't, it's like working out. If you don't do it, you just get flabby in that shape. Yeah, that's it. No offense or about the ballot. When I take it, like, time off, I go on vacation for like 10 days, I have one really good set when I come back because I'm enthusiastic. Yeah. The second set is like a little fucking shaky. I'm like, what's going on with this? And that's great. That's a horror, but that's the best part about it. It's just reality. Everybody that steps away from a too long, they talk in this term where they're like, oh, you gotta do a reality. I'm mediocre when I get on stage. I'm gonna be mediocre tonight, even though I don't wanna be. And I'm like, hey, I really figured this out. And guess what, I didn't figure it out. And I cried just to just let you know. That's the beauty. How much time did you take off during COVID? I did a few shows. [14:06] I mean, I did some shows that were like on, I did remote shows, which I loved remote comedy. Really? I loved it. Like Zoom comedy? Zoom comedy. Do you love it? I loved it. Did the only guy I've talked to, everybody else said it was hell. Because I just read, they think I'm looking at them. I'm reading my act. So any new material was memorized immediately. Oh, it's crazy. Every new joke. Did she get a teleprompter? What's that? Maybe she got a teleprompter. I've tried teleprompters, yeah. Yeah? I wish I could bring them all the time, yeah. You tried it on stage? I love teleprompters. No shit. Yes, telepomper is the greatest because the worst feeling is when you get back to the green room, you're like, fuck that tagline. I forgot the tagline. Yeah, or even the intro line. So you're like, of course it bombed. I didn't even explain what I was going to talk about. I love it. Yeah, telepomper is great. I'm, but I've used telepropters on shows when I did like one made shows in New York and [15:12] And you can't memorize the telepropter you get lazy mentally lazy you can't then you go on the road and you're like You think you say it every night you memorize it you can't it's an interesting psychological thing I know some guys who lay out sheets of paper on the floor Yeah, yeah with like bullet points. I've tried that Yeah, it doesn't really work that well. It's weird. You know the lights are weird Yeah, but you can't even see them Do you go on stage with glasses on no, this is that would help this is one of the first times I've been glasses in public so really I hope the crowd well I wanted people to take me seriously doing the interview And it's kind of a vibe. It's a vibe. It's hot on chicks. Yeah. I agree. A girl doesn't see that good for whatever reason. Whatever reason. They just seem smarter. Hey, whatever reason. Yeah, there's something intense. [16:00] That only became in the 70s. That like a fairly gross at glasses. Girls are glasses are hotter. Yeah, they had the whole new glasses. I'll tell you, certain people just look great in sunglasses. The first person I noticed as a kid, one of your idols, Bruce Lee, I go, that guy looks bad at acid sunglasses. And he had like, they wore it completely dark. They were like mix. That looks cool. Yeah, he was a cool motherfucker. He was a cool motherfucker. Yeah, I thought he'd changed the world. Unbelievable. Nobody thought about doing karate before Bruce Lee. Nobody cared. Well, even when he was on the green horn, and I'm old enough, I was there for the green horn of days, and you know, I can't, that's kind of cool, but you didn't think about it. But the minute those first came out. I saw a Chinese connection. It was called Fisafuri. They changed the titles now, but with Chinese connection, it was the first one. And Fisafuri and then entered the dragon. Yeah. Those are the three big ones. And there was the first time we ever saw somebody with abs. Yes. They're like, whoa. Yes. Who is that look? [17:00] Yes. How cool does it looked to be ripped. Yeah, look at that. Wow. Look at that. Come on. I mean, I hate to say but my profile pic when I was 19 I basically have the same physique. I don't care what anyone says. It kind of looks like a twink today though. Yeah, he does. Well, because nobody lifted weights in those days, you know. Yeah. But he was he was the king. Look at the abs on them on the fucker. Jesus Christ. Today, he'd be accused of having fake abs. Yeah. Yeah. He's a badass. Hmm. Bruce Lee Gold Medal sunglasses. Oh, you can buy them. Oh. Yeah, but I don't think those are the ones I'm thinking about. No. That one in that photo was pretty fucking cool. No, it wasn't these. It was some of the look where he just was casually wearing sunglasses. What cool, dude. Yeah, he was a badass. He was a real superstar. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it transcended. Yeah. And it also was happening during that weird time, the weird time and life in the 70s. After Vietnam was really winding down, it was almost done. Now we're back to 1968. Yeah, we're right there right now. [18:00] We're in 1968 right now. We're waiting for Kent State to jump off. You've seen these fucking protests that are happening in colleges? Yeah. First of all, these kids are all wearing masks. They're outside, they're protesting, and they're all wearing masks. I say that it's like the Democrats' MAGA hat. That's what the mask is. Isn't it? Nice. You let everybody know. You let everybody know that you're a part of the clan, that you're on the good side. Yeah. I'm masking, I'm masking for your safety. Yeah. They're just bizarre human beings coming out of colleges today. Well, I really brainwashed. Yeah. Well, I say this way, it's 20%, let's say 20% of them are just 20% of them are kids that were raised to hate the West. Everything in the West is bad. Their brainwashed, which is really the whole curriculum, is 20% of that. Then I'd say 20% are kids that are the kids that feel like they want to be like what I was in college. [19:10] Like when I was in college, remember this is happening during finals week. So 20% of finals protestors, if somebody came up to me when I was in college and said, listen, next week is finals, you know you're going to fail. How about this? We're going to give you some money from this George Soros Fender is a Venmo thing. Just we're gonna give you money, you stand outside and you block the other, not only do you not have to take your finals, you're gonna block the kids that are gonna make you look bad and pass their finals. You're gonna block them from coming to class. I would say give me the scarf. I'll put it on right now. Then you got 20% kids are gonna be, they're like the ones that appear pressured by their roommates. Because if you're roommates with people in college, they know you're scheduled. So they go, hey, we're gonna go protest genocide. You can't say, I'm gonna go to the bar. [20:01] So half these kids are like, God damn it. Now I gotta go out to the park. So I have these kids like, God damn it. Now I gotta go out to the protestor. I look bad in front of all my roommates. Have you ever seen when they get interviewed? The Constantine Kissin from Trigonometry. He went to the protest and he was just asking them, like what the river to the sea? What does that mean to you? Like asking questions. Yeah. What do you think should happen? Like what is what do you think the history of Palestine? That's like yeah and now they're literally they're literally praying they're praying to mecanon Did you see all the footage of them? Oh wonderful. They're bowies like I am objectively like gonna put a fat to on my mother. I just want to come out publicly and say China. Russia you guys won. You won. Yeah. You got our kids. You got the kids. You got a lot of them. You got more of them than you didn't get. No, they don't want them. Listen, China, China that teaches kids computer engineering, law schools are teaching like, you know, state sanctioned violence in Shakespeare of Sonnets and, you know. [21:01] Guys with fake eyelashes reading the toddlers. Yeah, that's what it is. That's what TikTok is. Our TikTok's a disaster. Yeah, they're smart. I mean, they got us. They got us. They won. They won the ideological battle. They've destroyed our universities. Yeah. They've destroyed our faith system. They didn't. Yeah, but they did. They infiltrated the this. Well, they did it was go like this. You ever see Yuri Besmanoff talk about it? He's a defector from the KGB. He talked about it in a famous interview from 1984. We talk about it way too much. So I'm sorry if you're hearing this again, folks. But he basically laid out exactly what was going to happen to America in 1964. And he was saying that Marxism and Leninist ideas have been infiltrated all the universities with these ideas. They're teaching them the children and you have like two generations from now you're going to be fucked. Well yeah, I'm saying it started long before any of this China, but they didn't say it. [22:00] He said Russia did it. So Russia was doing it. They're actively subverting our education system. But I feel like the idea of this kind of thing started long before, you know, before, I mean, it's been around a long time because people like, hey, it sounds fair, like equality sounds fair. Right. So then they slowly started bringing in and people, the general narrative is if you say, if I say to you right now, I just say it anyway, I think America's a great country. People go, oh my god, you hear this psychopath? Well, you're a nitty-nitty. He's the dumbest person I ever met. So I'm saying, if you start from the premise that America is evil, which is basically the premise today, and everything we do is, you know, based on oppression and violence, then anybody that goes against that, there's something evil about it. Yes. So I don't think that was Russian in China doing that. I think that was us doing it. I think Russian Chinese affords that, particularly Russia. I think they just agreed, [23:03] they were, well, useful idiots and all that stuff they used to talk about. Yeah, but I think they just agreed that they were well useful at it and all that stuff they just talked about. Yeah, but I think they didn't I didn't think they had far to go. I don't think you could do it unless people wanted to go along with that. Well, it's also a situation where your universities are almost entirely dedicated towards one ideology. That's right. You don't have any like there's clearly over history. Regardless of what you think about right-wing people, clearly over history there have been brilliant conservative people. And should not address that and to not have those people talk and to only allow liberal people to talk or progressive people to talk, you're going to get a distorted world view. And that's what kids are getting. That's well, I mean, even just the fact that Russia and China didn't force them to stop people from speaking at these places. You know what I mean? That's what's been going on for whatever amount of years. And you'll like me, you know, some right-wing guy, or, you know what I mean? But you've been pushed into a category that people are saying, you're this kind of guy, [24:01] because there's so far to the left and so stringent ideologically that if you fluctuate you're out of the loop and that's a cult. It is a cult. But it's one of the beauties, one of the beautiful things about America is the amount of freedom we have of expression. And when you have that and you have 330 million people, you're going to have a certain percentage of people that are just off the rails in saying, and if those people are rabid about it and excited about it, a lot of people find that attractive. Just like a lot of people find Islam attractive, and they don't just find it attractive because of the discipline and the tenants and all the different things that seem to resonate with some people, they find it attractive because those people are all in. And you want to be on a group that's all in. Like if I leave, they'll kill me. That's right. They kill you if you leave, but you can join. You can join, they'll take you in as a brother. Ooh, I want to join. And then people just, it becomes attractive to them. Because moderates are considered pussy, I took about this all the time. Moderates are considered, all you can a bland guy in dockers with his god damn you know with his dad bod and nobody's [25:06] interested in moderates fence sitters fence sitters I say even even superman you've got lowest lane she sees clock can't nice guys like hey lowest one I've done is she's like yeah just in a clock no I'm sorry and then Superman who shows up two hours a week who's an extreme is just break shit and she's like So I'm saying we our whole culture is built around extremists right like Do the hero in the movie walks away after blowing up a hydro electric day He's never they got a troubleshoots the hydro electric dam. That should be the hero in every movie I mean I'm being Clark Kent and you got to deal with this lady just constantly talking up, super man. And talking down to you. And you're like, bitch, you don't know shit. Yes. And you just gotta sit there and take it because you just can't spill the beans. You want to say, hey, fucking dummy. You want to just take the glass off. Are you stupid? [26:00] Yeah. On the same guy, but just wearing glasses. I'm just, I tricked you with glasses. I catfished you. Clock noticed that I felt like a fucking linebacker. You didn't notice that I look like a giant super person? Yeah. Oh, I just have glasses on, so now I'm a loser. Well, because you never slept with them, that's why she didn't notice. Right. Because she was like clock layoff. You think clock would like show off like every now and then like pick something up, you shouldn't be able to pick up? Yeah, but you didn't know. Clocks and Ensel. Yeah, he has Ensel. And Angry Ensel. A handsome, angry football quarterback looking insult. Yeah, yeah, he's an insult. Just to the glasses. Isn't that funny? Like that was the only disguise he had was glasses. It's the dumbest fucking disguise in all of comic books. At least Batman, like maybe he had a weird face, like if he had like a cleft pal, he'd like, hey buddy. I fucking, I know who you are, but no, you know, you just see the little, the little face part and the rest of the face is covered like, okay, hides his voice, I'm Batman. Okay, okay maybe. Wait, it's superman? Yeah, it's fucking stupid. It is stupid. But speaking of Bruce Lee, the green hornet had a mask, [27:09] but then Kato was Bruce Lee. We didn't realize, by the way, here's a stupid sitcom I'm watching as a little kid. We didn't realize there's a lifetime legend playing the sidekick. Yeah. How many times does that happen in life? And, but even then, but he wore this little show for his outfit Mm-hmm. I remember correctly. Yep, Bruce Lee were like a he was like this sidekick. Yeah, but he was but even then you could see a stalk What like even as the sidekick the two-seeing like this guy said badass? Yeah, I was like five years old six years old. I'm like look at this. You know, he was supposed to be in that TV show kung fu Really yeah, he was supposed to be in that TV show Kung Fu. Really? Yeah, I was supposed to be about him. Well, it wasn't supposed to be David Cariday. And why did he say no? They didn't want to have a Chinese guy on TV. That's insane. No, wow. And they picked David Cariday. Yeah, but it worked. Crazy thing with David Cariday. It didn't work. I love that show. I always love that show. Yeah, it was great show. Because every episode, every episode, there was, [28:07] well, though, let's face it, that was when you really look at it, it was kind of a walk show. A little bit. Every week, it was intolerance and the David Carrot, the Arritorian would come and save the day. You know what I mean? Kick some ass. He always had to I was terrible. It was nontense. It was totally unbelievable. But the way he was doing it was like, if you didn't know any better, you're like, oh yeah, he's got magic. But if Bruce Lee had done that, he would have broke, not the internet, but he would have broke TV at White O'Leary. Oh yeah. That would have been the best show of all of that. Wheel kick in people and jumping side kick in people on It would have changed everything but the movies changed everything. I mean he broke through just because he was undeniable Oh, yeah, we Was supposed to be him they opened it. I'll tell you all the karate studios Jerome Mackie These were all the karate these were big karate guys back when I was a kid like karate teachers Mm-hmm all he opened thousands of karate studios of other country Bruce Lee alone [29:04] Absolutely, yeah, It became a thing. Bruce Lee and then Chuck Norris was how I got into martial arts. Yeah. Chuck Norris fighting him. John Claude Van Damme watching those movies. How about this name? Bill Wallace? You have a hearing him? Superfoot. Yeah, it was a great kickbox. And it was a guy named Joe Lewis. Yeah, Joe Lewis. Heavyweight champion. Not in boxing, but in kickbox. That's right, white guy. Yeah, yeah. There was a bunch of great fights. Jim Callie was a great fighting. He was a pretty good movie still. Did you ever do karate or just follow it? I, I mean, I did a couple of classes, but I was, you know, it's crazy that you know about all those guys, like Joe Lewis, how about Benny or Keedas, My favorite jet, of course. Yeah. Well, because when I always tell this, but when I was a kid, the trains were so dangerous in New York, like, I mean, it was, say, this is nothing now compared to when I was going up. But what I would do is instead of taking karate, I used to buy karate magazine, and I'd stand on the train with my legs [30:01] that's sprayed like this, and stand, and read my karate magazine. Good move. Who's gonna read a karate magazine unless he's a karate? Then I ran into, oh, do you know, Oh, and Smith is a comedian? Yes. From Baltimore. I somehow mentioned that story one night to him and he goes, he goes, I took you one better. He goes, I bought a karate trophy and he used to walk around the streets holding my karate trophy. And there's the walk around the streets holding my karate trophy. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. So while you were studying martial arts seriously, just remember there's a whole bunch of lazy pricks that but magazines and trophies just so we were like stolen valor. You gotta watch the loss. People find a work around. Yeah, there's a lot of dudes walked around with Kung Fu outfits on. Yes. Yes. With the slippers, the whole black Kung Fu outfit, the white collar. Absolutely. To this day, they still do. And to this day, I'm still like, oh, I don't know if I'm a f***ing that guy. Yeah. I used to go watch them practice in the park and they were faking martial arts. It was made up stuff. They were doing made up things. [31:06] What do you mean? The moves are nonsense. It was made up. And you knew they were made up. 100%. Yeah, 100%. They were doing stuff that just, there's no history of this. It's like, I don't study Kung Fu, but I understand it. I know it. I know what it looks like. I've watched it thousands of videos on it. I've seen classes. I know what Kung Fu is. You're not doing Kung Fu. You're fucking, you're doing some shit. You think looks like Kung Fu and you're telling people that you're a master and you're practicing the parking. You got a bunch of other dumb people that have fallen you. And there's a lot of that out there. There was a lot of fake martial arts guys who pretended they had like some touch of death. Yes, and their students were like hypnotized They were like in a cult. Yeah, touch their students their students will follow the ground They're still out there. There's there's a there's a there's a Instagram page McDow Joe life McDow Joe life just highlights all these fake martial artists because McDow Joe was like those [32:01] Extrip mall. Yeah, which some of them are really good. Yeah, you know, this is like the thing. It's on the teacher. But this idea of like a death touch that people had like some secret powers. It's the dream, yeah. I told you I took six Juneau lessons and I was like, can I should say before the martial arts craze, I took, and I really wish I would have stuck with judo, but in those days, like there was no like padding. So, you were kind of clustered the worst headache of all time. I thought you were getting brain damage. Yeah, you get brain damage. You're getting brain damage in regular judo. 100%. 100%. judo's bad. You get brain damage. It's amazing. It's amazing martial art. But you get brain damage from Rhine and Jetsky. You do? Yeah, my friend Mark Gordon, he's specialized in traumatic brain injuries. He's a doctor and he works with a lot of veterans, football players, fighters and stuff. He's like, everything that hits your head is bad. Like soccer, guys get CTE, chronic traumatic encephalopathy. The things that boxers get and football players get [33:01] and MMA fighters get, soccer players get it from hitting it with their head but how do you get it from a jet ski the bouncing just the bouncing then how come they don't supposed to go on those gymnastic whatever that's cool they said it's helped trampolines yeah trampoline yeah yeah I don't think it's like jolting because that's kind of like catching you and lifting you up and catching you and lifting you up. That's a different thing than boom, boom, boom. It's the heavy duty shaking, head banging, like Angus from ACDC, gotta have brain damage. There's no way he doesn't. There's no way he doesn't. That dude has to be gone. I mean, flip, flip. But who the hell goes on a jet ski more than like once a year? Let's think about that. Um, some Jetski people that really love them. Jetski's are fun. Yeah, I love Jetski. I love it. It's fun. But if you bounce around on waves, you're getting brain damage. That's how delicate the brain is. The brain is not meant to be jostled around. And guys get concussions for getting hit in the chest. and you get a concussion. It happens all the time. You don't have to get hit in the head [34:06] to get a concussion. Well, yeah, yeah, but that's why I, it's a good thing I stopped judo because everything in a horrible headache. I was a little kid, need a beer. Also these guys crash. Oh my God. Well, that's different. That's ski jumping. I know, but this is what I'm saying. The article on skiing was bringing up. Oh my god, this is insane. That dude hit hard. How hard they hit. Oh, it must be nuts. They're going third. It's like a, so this is a water skiing tournament. That what that is? That's what that was. Yeah. Yeah. You have this second article about water skiers getting CTE. Oh yeah, have to. Dolphins have CTE. I bet they don't. I bet they glide right into that one. Everybody always says how smart they are. I'm like, yeah, they seem really intelligent sometimes. You're dismissing the intelligence of dolphins? Yeah, when anybody bounces a beach ball on their nose, and that's there, they're the valedictorian of the animal kingdom, that's it. I think you have to do that if you're know, it was too. That's the problem. The problems were so evil, we'll take intelligent things [35:06] and lock them in a swimming pool. If we can't understand their language, they're like, what? What? I don't know what it's saying. Do you want a fish or not? Here's the ball, motherfucker. That's what it is. Out in the wild though, they're awesome. They play with you. They come hang out. They go by your boat, they jump, and they literally want you to see them. They play with people. You can swim with them. They'll save you from sharks. If sharks come by, they'll fight the sharks off. They save people from sharks all the time. They have a cerebral cortex that's 40% larger than a human beings. What? Yeah, 40%. They have dialects? They have different dialects. Like you talk like you're from New York. Yeah. You know, I have like a little bit of Boston, a little bit of California, and they're like, I'll fuck that. If you, they can tell from dolphins listening to their vocal patterns where they're from. Now, wait a minute. [36:01] But they can't decipher it yet, but they're hoping they can do that through AI. First of all, if you don't have a routine about dolphins accents, you're crazy. I think I'll steal it if you don't have. I had a bit about dolphins about taking, it's true story. It's a true story. I got on very high edibles with my daughter when we went fishing and these dolphins came by the boats and they were jumping up the air. And then I had this crazy thought that what if the concept of me, like when you think of yourself as, you know, you refer to yourself, me, you're thinking of yourself living in this world with these genes in this city and this street, but the thought of me, like what if me to me is the same as me to Adolfan? And then I thought like what if that's the same with all human beings? Everybody's just experiencing life through different biological circumstances, different life experiences, but what if me is the same in every single human being, just dealing with different problems? [37:00] No, what is that mean? I don't even understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that when you think of yourself, when you think Conquind, like, when you think like, oh, I'm looking at the world, this is me. Right. That energy of what me is, this is how high I was. I was on like 200 milligrams of pot edible, on a boat in the middle of the ocean, and Hawaii, just amazing experience. But I was thinking the car like when the dolphins would jump up they would look at you They look you in the eye and you see that they're intelligent right and I was thinking like what if I Lived his life. I would be him and what if I lived my life He would be me right and then what I think of as me is just me Stumbling into a bunch of experiences with very particular genetics, a very particular like life lessons that I'm carrying around. And I think that's me. But if the energy of me, the very core of it is exactly the same in everybody. We're just experiencing life through different circumstances, but it's the same thing. That's God. Yeah. What about the, [38:01] you know, I was thinking about when I was thinking about the home martial arts thing too, was when you think about dolphins fighting sharks or saving people from sharks, that's almost a martial art too. Oh yeah. Well, you ever see what killer whales do to sharks? No. Ooh, there's this video of this mother killer whale. They make it doesn't count. Oh yeah, they fuck everybody up. There's this video of this, by the way, they save people too. And the only time they've ever killed people is in swimming pools. They save people all the time. Killer whales save people that fall in the water, they save them, they eat everything. They kill dolphins, they kill whales, they kill everybody, but they don't kill people. We kill them, but they don't kill us. It's the only time they've ever killed people on record. I mean, there's probably been a few circumstances where people were cut were cunts. Killer whale killed something. It was coming to some asshole tried to harpoon their sister. Sure. I'm sure that happened. But the point is that killer whales don't actively target people when it'd be really fucking easy to do. So check this killer whale, fuck this shark up. So she's out there with her, look at this, boom! [39:00] Wow. She's out there with her cubs and she just puts the fucking clamp down on this great white Oh, she's a wild, but that's it also makes you realize how big killer sharks are or killer whales Well, yeah, look at that boom. Yeah, I Mean I just saw something the other day of the killer whale around a boat some little boat and it was just You can tell the guys like oh God, it's over for me. And then the whale didn't bother him, like you said. Yes, they generally, just check them out and they'll fuck with you. And I think you can kind of talk to them. I think if you, I think they understand, if you're like, hey, you're cool. Like, you know, if you're polishing up a big metal spear with a rope on the end of it, then they might get a little angry. They'll probably fuck you up. I bet that if I bet if there have been people dying because is this the guy? Look at that little boat. Debra. Oh, he got bumped. Oh my god. Oh, it's right under here. Wow. [40:01] Whoa. You guys getting this? Yes. Let's get out of here By the way, but that was a gentle bump. That was nothing. No, this was something else But how about that is that not the battle cry of today you guys getting this? Yes, it is Think anyway get the Graham we got to get it on the ground you guys getting this do you even have Instagram? Yeah, you do sure Do you make reels? Do you ever make positive? Hey guys? Yeah, you do sure do you make reals? Do you ever make positive? Hey guys, you can really do it push through it Well, I kind of ironically as you know, I've been doing that for years I'm kind of a soccer mom So you made it just to infuriate people that's my whole game But I do you know I've been doing this series called Block by Block on YouTube, which is with this guy, a homeless pamphlet, you know, him, Mike Lavin. But we do- I don't know you're doing this. Yeah, I have a bunch of episodes where I interview it's my little, you know, like the thing I care the most about by doing it, which is I interview people from different neighborhoods [41:02] that in New York that I know over the years, and then just get them to tell stories of the neighborhood. So I was a friend from Hell's Kitchen, Mike's playing this, I didn't even know this was out there. Yeah, yeah. And it's my Steve Kelly. One problem with really great comics, and I include you in there, because you guys are terrible at promoting things. Yeah. I know. I'm saying. Yeah. I know. I'm saying. Yeah. But it's also why the stuff you put out is so great because you're only thinking about the stuff. You're not thinking about promoting the stuff, which is a totally different animal. And we wouldn't know where we would only come here. Where else would we go? We don't know. Well, doing it yourself, like doing your own promotion or like letting people, you know, like getting... But I just so interviewed this one guy, Mike Spillane from Hell's Kitchen and their famous family where he's telling all the stories of the oil. But one of the stories which you will like was him and my friend Robert who died, his cousin, they were in a bar like 1980s and mid down. So Hell's Kitchen is connected to the theater and all the Madison [42:03] Square Garden. So in a bar, some guy starts with makesplanes. He hits him. The guy's friend grabs Brian his neck. It's Andre the Giant. Oh my God. They're in a fight without it. Oh my God. And he picks him up and flings him and it's like a whole famous story of them fighting and they're asking by Andre the Giant. Oh my God. And then the cops come and grab them outside and arrest them and the cop walks in, finds out what happens. He's under it and just walks out and laughs. He goes, let them go. Don't worry about it. So just finding different stories of different neighborhoods. That's my little thing for you now. Like what I like to do for Instagram when people weren't snitches. That exactly right. So that's all, I'm just talking to these people and finding out all the great stories from that happened today Andre would be all over the news people be angry at them. Oh my god Everybody have an opinion on all those. Yeah When this guy was telling the story I go so people must have been buying your drinks for months He goes at hell's kitchen that time two weeks and then there was some new story happening Because that wasn't even the story of the month. What a great name for a neighborhood. Hell's kitchen. Yeah. What a great name. [43:05] Oh, yeah. I mean, you kind of have to have to act crazy if you're there. Yeah, they they they. If you're gonna move to Hell's kitchen, that's a very specific mindset. It well now, of course, it's different, but it was the most just imagine in neighborhood in the middle of Times Square when Times Square was Taxi Driver. Mm-hmm. So So the entity with all of that, the theaters, so they're all the stage hands were there. All the teamsters were there. There was a combination of everything, all the music studio, Lincoln Center on one side, all these, and the middle is all these crazy Irish guys, important weekends. Yeah. Just so, and so much music, and so much stuff came out of that area. It's crazy really is when you really really wild wild it the center of the university school and for how long or twenty years uh... like fifty sixty fifty fifty really it was that hot for that many years well hot in what what i mean what the interesting aspect of the interesting [44:04] aspect i think it was for forty get the interesting aspect of the interesting aspect that was 40 40 50 years I would say from 1950 to 2000 2000 what killed it? Giuliani? No, it just became well it became Times Square. You told Times Square Times Square became Gentile. Giuliani, yeah, gentrified it and and people started to corporatize the people. Yeah, it's like it became Applebee's. But it did. It's disappointing, but at the same time, it was sold out in a more, it was very bad. It was very bad when I first went there. When I was living in Boston, I came to New York for a karate tournament, ironically, in like 82, 83, I think. So I was in high school, so probably 83. And I was like, this is nuts. Like this place is fucking nuts. It was nuts. It was nuts. It's like all peep shows and pimps and hookers. Yes. And just it looked black and white. Like this, it was like in color. Like everything looked black and white. It looked dirty and seedy. [45:01] And there was just junkies on the street. Yeah. And people with like long coats and people yelling at people. And yo, this place is nuts. Times Square was a place that everybody avoided. That's right. Somehow or another Times Square became a tourist trap. Well, because of Giuliani, you ain't clean up the peep show. There was a law, I guess, where you couldn't have, you had to have like 30% legitimate in your peep show. There was some law that happened where they got rid of all the peep show. Legitimate? What does that mean? 30% like a regular store. Like you couldn't just have one. Some of us go along, I don't know what it looks. So Joey Dorosis there, but that's big thing that they did do. They had to have a legitimate thing and then to point in the back or something. Oh god. And that was in the mid-90s and I got cleaned. Well they used to have the triple X movie theaters. That's right. You know, you wanna talk about the lowest class of human being that you could possibly encounter in public. Yeah. Guys going to jerk off in a room with other guys jerking off, watching a movie. Yeah. Of course. [46:01] Just the most degenerate humans available. And it's in Times Square too. It was all over the place. No, no, the whole country had those. Oh yeah. Every city had, Times Square just had 50 of them. Well the craziest thing is because I want is, the crazy story is deep throat. Yeah. Because deep throat they were trying to turn it into, so the country was so naive back then. Yep. And porn, you didn't have VCRs, so you didn't, you did the idea of a porn addiction, seem ridiculous to people. So what they did with Deep Throat is they made a cinematic movie that was a porn film, and all these stars went to go see it. Like Johnny Carson was there, in line, they're interviewing them, where they're going to see a porn film. Yeah. And it's only like 1970 something 72 or something like that and Couples would go all over the country and go to these Sleazy theaters and watch deep throat wild. Is that weren't even sleazy theaters? These were regular theaters that showed deep throat [47:01] Yeah, is that crazy? Crazy. So it's that's like that's so interesting. Like you think about how much porn like right now porn is what percentage of the internet Jamie is it 30 something percent? It's like 30 something percent of all internet traffic. All of it. All of the world is porn. That's crazy. It didn't even exist before deep throat. Now I get stag films that you would hear about. Yeah, my brother-in-law was getting married. Yes. What does the stag party and they show the movie? Yeah. Like grainy movie or there's like sad, heroin addict fucking these guys. Yeah, try it. Yeah. Whoa. That was gross. Yeah. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I know. Exactly. But it's so funny, because I remember, Diefdro was the big breakthrough. First it was the devil and Miss Jones. I was like 11 to 12. And I remember we left, we didn't know what we were left. And then next year, you know, we're like 18, 19. We're going up Times Square at a point. And, you know, we were right there, you just took the train, you were right there. And, but it was so psychotic that, [48:07] and I actually knew, I knew a girl that ended up going into, like, working in those times where booths, and I'm sure a lot of people did, but it was really crazy to me that she was doing that, you know. Wow, that is crazy. That's a commitment. Yeah, I mean, there's boots and guys that lifestyle. Woof. There's a judge in New York made it a $3 million fine for showing deep throat. And it still exists. It's never been overturned apparently. Wow. Whenever this article was written, all this is a 93, but. Wow. Movies and television have completely changed our outlook on the human form. So he was 71 at the time when he was talking about this. And so this is in the eve of his retirement in 91. So he's probably in his 50s when that happens. So he had grown his whole life, been a grown adult, and never had any interaction with porn. And then he sees people going to see it in a theater. [49:01] He's probably like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. This is crazy. Like you guys are watching people suck dicks with your friends. Yeah. This is weird. Yeah. Yeah. It was totally legitimate for a couple of years. I don't know when it turned, but I remember when I went to college, they showed Deep Throttle one of these Debbie Dubs Dallas, one of these porn movies in like the student union. What? And guys and girls who all went to see it. No way. Yeah, it was totally, you know what I mean? And it was crazy. It's crazy. And it were a couple of girls that like, this is anti-women and we're like, oh, relax, what are you making a big deal like? We act like, oh, we're crazy. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy. They like they showed it like a whole week. I'll tell you another one. What a week? Yeah, like every night because so many people wanna go see I'll tell you another one. One of the guest speakers. Talk about college gigs. Harry Reams was one of the guest speakers. The porn star. The porn star. Famous like 1980s porn star. [50:00] 70s, yeah. 70s? Yeah, the big mustache, 70s,, 70s here the big mustache yeah, mustache. Do you want to be like a giant real estate guy maybe but real estate I'd like to talk to him someday because this girl I knew I still have my money, but I'll leave it out and She drove him she goes yeah, I drove him back to the train station and I was like you don't need to drive him to the train station You can walk there. She drove and I want to know what happened. I want the full story after she's not gonna give it to you. She lied to me. She goes, nothing happened. She got turned on. She got turned on, but seeing that guy's dick. She got turned on, and his heart liked his speech. Also, it didn't, it wasn't like forbidden back then. This is so hard for people to imagine. Because like today, if you're watching porn on your phone and someone catches you, you have a deep shame. Yes. Oh, you call me watching porn. Porn is a thing that people are ashamed that they consume. But back then, that was not the case. It was innocent. In the weirdest sense, or people just didn't get it. They didn't get it. No. [51:00] When I was a kid, VCRs were invented. And one of the first things when they invented VCRs, is they start making dirty movies and putting them on VCRs. And the porn industry just explodes. It's all from people watching at home. And you'd have to go through these fucking saloon doors. Remember, or you'd push the beads aside. It was always something you had to do. You couldn't just go to the porn section. You had to let everybody know, hey, you fucking pervert. Make some noise, rattle those beads. And then you walk in there and no one was looking at anybody. Everybody's like, no, no in the porn, but that section is for perverts. Yeah. That was the thing. Yeah, and it became a thing where people were in a baris spot. It was weird. And then slowly over time, it became embarrassing. I think when it became an addiction thing, I think clearly when the internet came around [52:02] and people had instantaneous access to it. Well, it's funny because as much as sex became more like, like I remember in comedy, we all had bits on Jerk and Off to porn when I in the 80s. Right. We all had bits in. Yeah. Which is hard to imagine. Everyone's like, oh, huh. Nobody gave it damn. I mean, is that weird? We all just talking about, hey, you obviously pulled because it was new, like you said. And then suddenly people stopped talking about that because it was shameful. I don't know what the, I guess it was, when it was, it's the addiction. Yeah, I guess you're, when you're ashamed of something, you shouldn't be doing that something, almost always. Right. Which is the lie about the thing you're, right. Right. You know, like I had a friend and he was always trying to lose weight and one time we said, hey, me to set this bar is Ralphie May. I said, yeah. Cause he's done with us anymore. I love Ralphie. Great guy. He was awesome. And then Ralphie was like, it was like an hour and a half later, like where the fuck is Ralphie? Like, when's he coming here? And then finally he pulls up and the back of his car was just filled with fast food stuff. [53:06] And he had like some story about why I could make it. He went to a drive-through. He had to. He went through a drive-through and he bought bags of food and he just stuffed himself. And he probably felt shitty about it and didn't want to talk about it. Sure. That's addiction. Absolutely. If you're watching porn on your phone all the time, you're like, do you watch porn your phone like now? Oh, what's that? Right. It's because you're addicted. Right. You're ashamed. Sure. You're ashamed. But like you said, 30% is crazy. Crazy. Is that what the number is? Do we find out what the amount of traffic? 84 it says the golden age. That's what that's what this I don't tell you why age well this all VCR is also so it's stopping you didn't have to go to the movie theater to see it you could watch that home well that was a great that was a that all 84s in the VCR came out wow around then that's like yeah so that makes sense because that was I was in high school but you make sense there was a great scene in boogie nights when Bert Reynolds is so disgusted that he has to do like amateur point, remember? [54:08] Like he's just be a filmmaker. Oh, right. And then suddenly they're in the limo and he's going, okay, do that. And then they remember he was like so horrified by it all. I forgot, I forgot that movie. That was a great movie. Great movie. And they said Bert Reynolds, you know, the director and all these people said, Bert Reynolds was so horrible. He was so brilliant in it. He didn't want to be in it from day one. He hated everything about it. Really? And to his dying day, he hated it. He wanted, he wanted, he fired his agent. He hated it and he was so brilliant in it. Well, Bert Reynolds, I'm a huge Bert Reynolds fan. No, the greatest. I love that guy. He was so fun. He made me believe that like a handsome man could be funny. Yeah. I never thought handsome people were funny. Like the handsome guy was never cool. The handsome guy was like cool but silent. Like he wins a street fight. So the Reynolds is like always smiling. It's like I want to hang out with that guy. [55:00] He was a party. He'd go on the tonight show with a big laugh. Yeah. I mean, that giant laugh. He was the first guy that I ever really saw that was like a really handsome man that was hilarious. And he was best friend to the lot. And he was the dog deliwess. And they'd be incredible. Well, how about when he did Jackie Gleason? Jackie Gleason in him with smoking the bandin. What a combination Jackie Gleason and Bert Reynolds wait the Jackie Gleason in that movie And I'll tell you who else because I remember when I saw a catty jack for first time and I was like a young kid And I'm like oh catty jack my heroes are winning Bill Murray Chevy chase all this cool guys even Rodney And I go and then they got this guy from a sitcom Ted night and then he steals the movie and the same thing I was Jackie Gleason and spoken to band. Yeah these guys stole they were so good. It's unbelievable. Lisa was the fucking man. Yeah. Jackie Lisa was the man. It was unbelievable. He did serious acting too. He's in the hustler. Oh yeah, he was amazing. He was great in the hustler. Did you ever hear they said some reviewers, some famous back when reviewers were famous, because I just was long to live A and him did a movie together, [56:05] he goes, I just watched a movie with the greatest living actor and long to live A. Jack English is so good. He was awesome. Best pool player to ever be a movie star by far. Yeah. He was like a real good pool player, like a professional level pool player. Yeah, yeah. You could see even the way he played. Yeah, in the hustler. He was making his own shots. When Paul Newwood made his shots, he'd be like, oh, this is not real. This is nonsense. But when Jackie Gleason did, there's a fluidity to the way he moves around. But now why would you remake the hustler? Look, we all love Montenegro. No one's gonna say make it That was the color money. The color money was a separate book. Well, it was a sequel, but it was the same author. It left a bad taste in my mouth. Really? Yeah. That was a great movie too. It's a great movie too. Very accurate too. He did the flipping the pool queue. That's a little nonsense. People don't do that, but especially not with the ball of Bushka. But what he was doing in the movie like portraying how people hustle and move around that was all real and it's by the same guy [57:07] It also wrote the Queens Gambit. Did you ever see that show? Yeah, great show amazing show amazing show about that girl who's a wizard chess player. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the same guy Walter Tevis right Yeah, you wrote the hustler how like compelling is her face and her energy? Oh yeah, you buy it all in whatever you just buy it. Yeah, you buy all of it. Yeah, you're really there with her. She was awesome. She's really good. Yeah. What does it mean? Anna Joy. What is her name? I'll never know. But the hall is a Anna Joy. I like the fact that at least he bothered. That's one thing about Tom Cruise. He doesn't play games. He's in the car of money. He learns to do like, none chucks. By the way, none chucks were big when I was a kid. No chucks just came out. Oh yeah. When I was a kid and people would have no chucks, everybody would walk around with a black eye for like a long time [58:07] Yeah, I banged myself in the back of the head multiple times You did back in my head crack now when you did this karate tournament in the 80s in New York Mm-hmm. Is it are you guys striking each other? Yeah, wow and it's full contact like they call it Yeah, well the karate tournament that I went to in New York was what was called a point tournament and point tournaments were different than taiko and no tournaments in that There wasn't continuous action you'd hit the person and then they would stop and call a point So it's almost like this really high level game of tag Right wasn't really the thing that I did I did taiko and no tournaments primarily which will a continuous action and you would win by knockout a lot of times. And so you basically just trying to kick this other dude in the face or in the chest as hard as possible and stop his body from working right. That was my objective. You was like the Kumite. It was like that a little bit. But in the Tagwondo tournaments, you couldn't punch to the face. You could only kick to the face and kick to the body. And then I transitioned from that into kickboxing. But it was like, when I went to New York City, [59:07] we were trying to do anything. We would try anything. There wasn't that many tournaments. So if there was no tight-won dough tournaments, we would enter into karate tournaments. We were going, I thought probably, I probably fought a hundred times. Wow. Yeah. And was there a time? I imagine if I counted all the tournaments because oftentimes you'd fight three or four times in a day. No kidding. Yeah. My last kickboxing fight was the third fight of the day. I had three fights in one day. I won the first two fights and I lost the last one. Wow. In a day. That's crazy. Imagine it. It's good to be a kid, huh? It was good to be stupid. Yeah. If I had a kid today and say, hey, you're not fighting again, you just get hit in the head. And she, and she, and she come on, and roaches all the time. No. Yeah, well, I always came home from training and bruises. Yeah, and from fighting, yeah, you get fucked up. Yeah, you 20 times. I had to get it fixed. [1:00:06] I had to get the inside of it all cleaned up and it all calcified like a wrestler's ear. You know, wrestlers get calc, you get smashed the nose enough. What happens is the inside of your nose, all that tissue swells up and bleeds and then it gets broken and your septum gets twisted and blocks off and then you get like calcium deposits inside your nose Just like you get in your ears like a cave like a little like rock. Yeah. Well it's horrible I couldn't breathe at all. I had a very nasal voice for a long time until I got it fixed that it was like 40 when I got it fixed Wow Because I got breaking it because I was like I'm just gonna keep breaking it It's's like what am I gonna do? Like I broke it like three times when I was on news radio you did yeah I was breaking it Bisfarring or just rolling you accidentally get a knee to your face and then you nose Bleeding you're like well I broke it again. I mean working out with like Benny the jet and those guys in the valley I actually started at the jet center when I first moved to Hollywood. That was the first place I went to. That's great. There's two places I wanted to go to [1:01:05] when I went to Hollywood. I wanted to go to the comedy store and I wanted to go to the Jets Center in Van Nies. I found out about it. It's the Jets Center. Yeah, that's true. And when I was there, Blinky Rodriguez, who was Benny's brother-in-law, fighter too, like a great, great kickboxer. He had lost, I believe, a family member to gang violence. I don't want to say exactly who it was, because I'm not sure if I remember, but I want to say a son to gang violence. And then, if it's not that I apologize. And then, so he offered free classes to gang members. So he wanted to teach these gang members, like discipline, give them a sense of like community and give them structure give them something they can So I was taking kickboxing classes with gang bangers We side moved from New York and I came to LA I didn't have any friends and here I am in my Volkswagen Corrado pulling up to the jet center and Van Ayes and I'm taking kickbox in classes with gang bangers [1:02:08] Like this guy had this fucking tattoo on his back this homemade tattoo of the name of his gang It was like plot those and then underneath it. It said fuck the rest. I was like oh boy 1994 this back has his gang and then fuck the rest I was like yo What am I doing so I had a spar with these guys so sparring with these gang bangers and You could like they didn't know what they were doing like a lot of them right, but you couldn't I wouldn't hurt them I'm like I'm not gonna hurt this guy, you know, I'm just gonna like touch him a little bit Yeah, I'm just gonna like touch him a little bit. And I'm just gonna like just give my heart for the foot in his face. I'm not gonna hurt him. I do not want to get shot in the parking lot. I do not want to get stabbed. You cannot humiliate one of these guys. So you just move around, be defensive with eight swing punches. Just work on blocks, work on moving, footwork. Touch him a little bit, but there's no like going after him. That's great. [1:03:05] It was scary. It was fucking scary. These guys were murders. It had been one of Ben and I. There's a rough area. It was super rough. It was super rough. And, but a lot of great kickboxers were there too. It was also like Pete Sugarfoot Conningham was there. And, you know, Blinky was there teaching classes, which was to me, it was like as a kid who grew up watching him on TV to be in their gym. I was like, holy shit, this is crazy. But then unfortunately, the earthquake fucked up the roof. And when it rained, when the rainy season came, the whole building got destroyed. The roof was all fucked up in the room. Oh, you were there for the earthquake? I was there right after the earthquake and then the rain came after that and their building was fucked. So eventually, he opened up a place in North Hollywood and I went there for a while, but it was just Benny. It was a smaller place. I went to, I was at NLA during the earthquake during the 94th quake and I was staying in this like temporary housing place on, it was of course Northridge, but it was in like in Westwood district. [1:04:08] And I wake up and I go, oh my god, I'm dreaming that my bed is flying across this entire room. Oh my god. My bed flew across the room. And it was, it was scary, man. Oh my god. I mean, my bed was, well, my bed buildings were collapsed all around me. People in the street, 5 a.m., and they're on the way at the whole city. Oh my God. The whole neighborhood, I mean. I was only in a small earthquake. I was in a 5.5, and I was in my apartment in North Hollywood, and it was like I was in a washing machine box or a refrigerator box, where it just had no stability. Yeah. Like the whole, I was like, what? I thought an earthquake could be like, everything's shaking. Yeah. Everything moved. Everything moved. It just moved side to side. And I remember thinking, oh shit. It's like having vertigo. But it was, I was just thinking, this is a baby one. This is like a five. Yeah. So a seven is how many times greater than this? [1:05:01] Holy shit. Yeah. It fucked up Northridge and Van Nies got fucked. That was more than any place. Another reason why I was glad I got out of LA in time. I'm like, it's coming. Well, if you guys think you got it bad now, all the shit in the streets and all the tents and wait till earthquake hits that mess. Well, about two weeks ago, I was in New York and I go, what the hell was that? Oh yeah. And it was an earthquake. Yeah, earthquake in New York. It was crazy. It was crazy. That's so unusual. Yeah, I never heard about it. So this earthquake in Van Aes, I guess it fucked up the roof of that building and it condemned a lot of buildings. It destroyed that whole area. The Northridge's right next to Van Nijs. Yeah, they just, it just, the police flooded. There's a photo of you, Jamie. Where it is. There's a photo of me, like a black and white photo of me along from a long time ago throwing punches and it was taken at the Jet Center. The original Jet Center? Yeah. [1:06:00] It's like 1994. There's like this photo of me I would riped I was young and healthy back down great right yeah back in the old days that kid I had most of my hair. Yeah Crazy right? Yeah, that's it whoa At the jet center in Shit you like Sean Connery in 1995. You like Sean Connery? I don't know what's going on with my lips, but. I was in the middle of throwing punches. And you used to go there all the time, huh? Yeah. Yeah, and they had a photographer there one day. And did you, when did you pass at the comedy store? 94. You did, you passed right away? No, like six months. Mitty? Yeah, Mitty gave me six months. She didn't like that I was already on a TV show. Oh, you were already on the show? I was already on news radio. She didn't like that. Oh, that's why you went out to LA. Yeah, I went out to the LA just for news radio. I never had it. I had no interest in acting. Right, right. I was purely being a prostitute. I I just wanted to stand up. Right. And then I was like, okay, maybe this is my career now. [1:07:07] Okay, maybe I'm acting now. You know, and then I'm also doing this stuff. And I was like, this is weird. I had no acting classes before. You didn't? No, nothing. I took, when I got a development deal with Disney, they made me get an acting coach. So I did a couple of one on ones with this lady and I didn't like it. It was a lot of weird ego stuff going on and she also wanted to be my mom in the show. It was like there was a lot of weird stuff. Oh yeah, of course. But it's just like that world was not interesting in that world. And it was like this is not, I'm just gonna do my best. I'm just gonna do it the way I would do it, which is pretend, pretend this is actually happening, pretend I'm this dumb guy, pretend this is actually happening. But I didn't know what I was doing. Like I didn't know where Upstage was. I was on television. They were like, Joe, could you move like six inches upstage, which way's that? [1:08:00] Like which way's Upstage? like which is upstage, like it's flat. I didn't know that old stages used to be slanted. An upstage meant you moved backwards, which is kind of crazy. Instead of saying would you step back, move upstage. Like everybody's using these old timing terms for a slanted stage with a whole audience who seated there could see everything because they didn't in front of a live crowd. But that must have been fun doing it in front of a live crowd. It was fun. It was fun when you got good lines, but you didn't really get to control like the first show that I did was terrible. It was called Hardball. That's what it came out to LA for. I do remember. It was a baseball show. So that got canceled and then then I got lucky that I had a development deal with NBC right after that. And I was gonna do my own show, but they said, hey, we got a part on this show that we're already gonna do, and we're gonna recast it. And so it was originally Ray Romano. I know. Yeah, so Ray got fired. Yes. And then they replaced it with a guy, and that guy got fired. And they replaced it with a guy. Which made me feel better. Cause at least I didn't take the job from Ray. I took a job from some guy. [1:09:05] Even if you did, Ray, obviously stunk and he just got what he deserved. Well, it was the best thing that happened to him because then he went, oh, it was so good. You know, but I love Ray. And so it was weird. It was weird, but it was okay because the other guy got the job first. And then all of a sudden, I'm all Sunday on this fucking show with Phil Hartman and Andy Dick and Dave Foley. I'm like, this is crazy. I've been acting for all of like four months ever. You know, I did one terrible TV show. Yeah. And you want two acting classes. Hey, you want. And how long were you doing stand up at that time? Six years. So it was good. Yeah. And in the game. I was in the game, but I wasn't that good yet. No, I'm like, it's had to be a work of a monster. To the heart. And I mean, Phil Harman's one of the legends of all time. He was a sweetheart too. What a great guy. He was a great guy. He was a genuinely interesting, weird guy. Like, I don't know anybody like him. I mean crazy? They were his greatest? Yeah, he was a brilliant artist. [1:10:05] He was also a pilot when I bought my house in the valley. He took me to these areas when it's plain. Took me over to show me areas where he could move to. He was living in Encino. And I think I was still in Encino at the time too. And I was like, I had had a stalker. And so I really, I'm like, I gotta get a little further out. You know, it's like, it's just two, people knowing where you live, things is just too weird. I gotta go to a place that's more secure. And so then when I moved out to the valley, Phil took me out there on his plane to show me areas. When you're flying over these places you see all these trees and the hills and the mountains. I was like, oh, this is beautiful. I'm going to go here and just drive in. That's way better. It's great. Yeah. And you guys who in Bear Bank, we did it in a bunch of different places. We did it at CVS Radford for a while. That's the best location. Sunset Gower. We did it for the most. I love it nearby. Yeah, he's gone. It is I think it is all of them gone [1:11:07] I think it is I know the one in the valley in Woodland Hills is gone That was a bomber man. That was fun. Oh that place was so good in the 90s I was just talking about LA in the 90s how you could drive around to Jeff and There was traffic was nothing now. It, you can't move. Yeah. It's overpopulation cities makes it way more tense. Yeah. People were way more tense now than they were in the 90s. It was like a way more relaxed city. That's hard to believe. Because everybody in their head is like LA's like, beep, beep, fuck you. Yeah. Everybody's doing coke and on their way to a business meeting. Right. Back then it was like, you could get to work in a half an hour. Yeah, it wasn't that big deal. Now it's the fucking, where I used to live in the valley, if I wanted to go to the comedy store. The comedy store is 22 miles from my house. It would take me 22-ish, I'm guessing. But it would take me... [1:12:02] Pshhh, hour, 10 minutes? Hour and 10 minutes. At, you know, it's seven o'clock. Well, that day... Now, if I try to leave it five, it's two hours. I need two hours. If I have a meeting in Hollywood at five, I have to leave my house by three or I'm fucked. Oh, it's crazy. It's crazy. That's two hours to go two-two miles. And that's normal. And that ain't even Long Island. How about people making it into the city in the daytime? You ever get stuck in that mess? You're gonna come up from the island and try going across the fucking bridge? Oh Jesus Christ. It's crazy. You just wanna jump off the bridge. And guys do it every day, just so they can have a lawn every day. Every day. Just like they have a lawn. Yeah. Just exhausted. Well, so taxes, a little more. I'm sure. Taxes, but also you want a backhand. I want a backhand. And when Saturday comes along, I want to sit with a cup of coffee. Right. Fucking poor to see a deer mate. That's right. You know, let me fucking relax. A little bit of relax. Do I really have to be a part of that something about living in the concrete horse shit that some people love. I love it, dude. [1:13:05] I love it. I love it. You love the energy, right? Just the old people around you. I'm just happening. I like to, yeah, I'm just so used to it, it's my whole, yeah, I mean, but I like L.A. When I lived in L.A. I loved L.A. But I lived all over L.A. But You know, and I like driving, but that's the thing in LA. You just have to be in love with your car. If you love your car, you love LA. You don't love your car, you don't love your car. That's a good point. That's a good point. And in LA, the problem is that if you're fucking around with like a Tesla with 30% power, you got 30% battery left, it's 3 PM, like, oh buddy. you might be fucked. You might be like really fucked. Like you might be, your car might die on this road. Oh, you're fucked. Yeah, you're fucked. You gotta drive two hours. You gotta drive a San Diego, what? Yeah. You can't try this any. No. Well, it's gonna make it. It's gotta be five hours. [1:14:00] They say all the people that commute to LA now, like they just call pool, they are poppin' pool. So they don't go home, they go to work Monday, they stay till Friday, then they go home. That is so insane. That's so insane. They have to rent an apartment together. I have to stop saying nice things about Austin. Stop saying nice things about it? Yeah, there's too many construction cranes. It's too long for everybody to know. It's just me and I. But there's so many companies moved here. Yeah. There's just so much shit going on here. So I don't want this to become like that. Yeah. I think there's something about Texas though that rebels that will always rebel. And they realize how bad people fucked it up in California. And hopefully the people that moved here realized how bad they've always been. They've always had one foot out of the country, Texas. Let's face it, they came in real late. Reluctantly. And they've been here reluctantly. They got one foot out. They're like, we don't need, we'll leave. Well, when you know about the history of this country, [1:15:02] this land, this area, I mean, this is a brutal, brutal place. Yeah. You ever read the Empire of the Summer Moon? No. Oh my God, I get it to you. You gotta read it. It's incredible. It's a history of this place. It's the Comanche Indians and the history of the Texas rain. It matches me, yeah. I like that. mean, clearly what the colonizers did, what the people moved here, what they did was horrible. No one has ever denied that. But if you don't know what the command cheese were doing to other Indians, if you don't know, oh my God, the rating parties will do. Of course, they did some of the wildest shit. They would start a bonfire. And right before they threw the guy on the bonfire, they would hold him out by his arms and legs, hack off his arms and his legs while he's still alive and throw him on the fire to watch him squirm like a worm. Unbelievable. They would feed people, their friends. [1:16:02] They would cut people to pieces in front of you. They took, no one surrendered ever. You always fought to the death. Because if you were captured, you are 100% gonna get tortured and killed. Tortured and killed. Tortured and killed. But now just because that's how they live. For fun. There was no prisoners of war. There was no honor. There was not in this European bullshit. They were doing it old school. Old school. And that was the entire country, except for the agriculture. There's a lot of people that accepted agriculture in the southeast and they were like calmer and not war bearing. And they weren't even riding horses a lot. The Comanches were the horse bearing ones. They were the best with horses. And they were the most fierce. And they only ate meat so they could go for days without food unlike like some of the settlers, some of the people that were trying to make it across and some of the people that they fought. What about you have been reading this book speaking of cruelty Jerusalem? It's about the history of Jerusalem. So the early Sieges and the same torture techniques but you know we gave it to me this guy. [1:17:05] Kevin Fitzgerald. Yes. Communion, but he's a bodyguard. Yeah, I just worked with him last week. And he was telling me the stone stories. He was bodyguard for 20 years for the stones. He tells the greatest because he's very intelligent guy. But he's a boxer that became a bodyguard for the stones and then moved on and started doing sand up. And he's also got like, doctorates in veterinary medicine. But he started telling me, do you ever hear this one about Mick Jagger, about the people in wheelchairs? He's like, oh, keep this a cool guy. Mick Jagger every day, every show for 20 years would take this guy Kevin, put on a hoodie, so nobody could recognize him. Go up, cause in those days they put the wheelchairs in it. If you want a wheelchair, they wouldn't let you be with your friends. They'd put you in a separate wheelchair section in the balcony. [1:18:00] Everybody in the wheelchair had to go. Mick Jagger would go up with eight tracks T shirts Hand them out never told the press never made sure nobody knew about except this bodyguard and talk to all the people in Wheelchairs and give them T shirts and give me tracks for 20 years Wow, that's wild, but this guy tells a million stories. You know, he's been bodygover 20 years Wow, he's got great stories. That's cool. How do we get to him? We were just talking about. Uh, Jerusalem and the Commandes and the... Oh, Jerusalem and the Sohtorchah techniques. So this book on Jerusalem, like what... I've thought about it. What is the name of it? Jerusalem, a history or something. I've thought about reading about it and I get anxiety. I'm like, the book, not that particular book, but about Israel's book. This book. But this book goes back to the begot. Yeah. This book is really, I mean, I just saw, I've only read like the first couple of, that it's amazing. This book. That's the one. It's crazy. And every place. [1:19:01] It's wild. And it starts out out you're like oh my god. It started on the most Bloody but somehow everybody knew it was significant even then like it was never this place that people weren't like They were always like no this is the place. What do you think about that? Do you think is that making any sense? What is there is there a place that's more holy than other places? You mean like Sedona? Yeah, like Sedona is a good one. That's the good one for hippies. Yeah. For hippies believes Sedona is like a sacred place. Yeah. Well, I always feel like they're saying, well, even when I was just at the gig, I was at the gig with Kevin Fitzgerald. It was in, uh, where the shining is in Colorado. Mm-hmm. where they shot the shining that hotel. Yeah, and so they go it's haunted and I'm talking to the kid that works Hey, and he goes listen, he goes I didn't believe any of this shit He goes I've worked here for two years. It's real. He goes Lucy. They knew the names of the ghosts Lucy She's a redhead. He goes I open the mirror when I'm here alone at one in the morning because it's kind of a really out of the way place, you know? Yeah. He goes this, he starts describing all these things that happened. [1:20:06] You're like, oh God. So I do believe this place is sure. Yeah. I think there's something to some of it. There has to be. Yeah. What is it? What does it mean? They're willing to kill each other over one place. Because they think God's coming to this one place. Yeah, but it's it's so it's so important to them like how about you're gonna love this book Because this is exactly the point. How about mecca? How many Muslims travel to mecca? Yeah, and you're you're you're absolved of your sins Yeah, you go to mecca you make the pilgrimage and they all go around and they're they're essentially walking around a meteor Yeah, it's a meteorite, right? Is it? Yeah, I think that's a center. Isn't that what it's the center of that box in Mecca? I think that's what it is. Look at that. I mean, also like how beautiful is that? If you go there, you probably really believe. Even, I mean, it probably, even if it wasn't true, [1:21:03] would have that effect on you. Yeah, just like a logic Yeah, going through this incredible All these people the other people and everybody's peaceful and nobody's talking about Medina nobody's talking about anything Mecca and Medina and they always talk about mecca. It's like spring steam and John Cougar That's the other one. Yeah, the one So is it say there's a stone there? the other one so is it say there's a stone there the stone building but isn't there a google meteor or meteorite it's where the uh... it's where well mahamid first of the uh... thing right i think there's there's something to the um... okay there it is oh there it is. Oh, there it is, yes! Yeah. The embedded Blackstone was a further symbol of this as a meteorite that had fallen from the sky and linked heaven and earth. Yeah. It's crazy that they got one spot. [1:22:00] Like they'll fight over that spot. You can't have that spot. They do? Oh, yeah. Imagine if the United States wanted to put a military base over that spot. You can't have that spot. That's, oh yeah. Imagine if like the United States wanted to put a military base on that spot, like no, you gotta take away your religious spot. It's not real. Now that would take away your spot. That would be a real deal breaker. That could be a deal breaker. Oh, there's Medina right next to it. They just spelled it different. I keep thinking about. That's a mecha that's Medina and Medina was cool too. Wow. Yeah. They always say mecha and Medina. Oh really? I only heard mecha. I know because people pray to mecha that don't pray to Medina but I think you leaders are Abadina. Is it like Simon and Garfunkel? Like one of them they just move for everybody where's Garfunkel? He was like hey Garfunkel is great. What happened? He was great. Oh what happened? Yeah. So these things Garfunkel. Those things happen. Although I'm sure they wouldn't [1:23:07] of all the people who be compared to them. Don't think so. I'm in a go off fucker. What they want to be compared to if you don't I mean? I know what you mean. I do know what you mean. They say can you name somebody else please? But I wonder what is so specific about that area. You know? Yeah. No, I think my hobby is there or something. Yeah, and also the areas in Israel, these areas that are the wall. Jerusalem book is really getting into it. And I'm like, oh my God, just the early stuff that's happening. There it is. Okay, it's known as a site where the Prophet Muhammad received the command to change the direction of prayer to Mecca. Oh, so that's where he learned it. Ah. Yeah. It's a weird time for religion for sure. [1:24:01] It's also a weird time for the Jews. I've never seen more antisemitism, like openly, public and openly, then now. Yeah. Like just regular antisemitism. Not even towards these particular Israelis that are bombing Gaza, right, just across the board, yes, if some 24 year old kid in New York is responsible for what's happening in Palestine. Right. Just because he has a star, David, on. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's, the internet is also got a group, it's got a group hysteria, like a mob hysteria, two hundred percent. And then people is just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, get out all your things on that. A hundred percent. People is just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, get out all your things on that. 100%. That's exactly what it is. And it's also a bunch of people that have been bullied and they've been marginalized and now they're a part of a team. And they bully other people. Absolutely. It's an old hurt people hurt people, thank you. It's absolutely. There's suddenly you know what it feels like to be in a gang, [1:25:02] only you don't have to worry about physical repercussions. Exactly. And that's a good feeling. Yeah. Power. Destroy. You got power. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. It's changed our psychology completely. Or ours a little bit, but the people who grew up on it have a whole different psychology. They have a whole different mind than we do. Yeah. They do. Yeah. and there's also a lot of right really mentally ill people that are addicted Well, yeah, of course of course a big part of it right and you watch You watch them get more and more obsessed each that you watch them become More and more compulsive and more and more you see it happen over the years. I've seen it. Well, I know Yeah, they go they fall apart Yeah, but a few've been over the years, I've seen it. People I've known. Yeah, they fall apart. I know, quite a few people that are really falling apart because of it. Yeah. Yeah. If you ever thought about going to the flip phone? A flip phone? Yeah. I don't even know if I had a flip phone back when they came out. Disconnect. Like David Tell, he's all flip phone. He is. Flip phone. Yes. When he texts, he had a text, when he was making a text in here, [1:26:06] it's like, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do She goes, she was the producer, I guess, in the movie. And she goes, and my husband who, he doesn't have a phone, never had a phone, never had a computer. This guy does all these high tech things, he doesn't only compute or a phone. Wow. Is that weird? It is weird. Tucker Carlson doesn't have a computer either. Wow. Doesn't have a television. I remember hearing in the 90s Quentin Tarantito wrote his scripts by hand like he never used even a typewriter or computer. And you think a guy like him would be into it? Well, a lot of people like writing things by hand. In fact, I'm pretty sure JK Rowling wrote Harry Potter by hand. Wow. Yeah. Pretty sure she wrote it by hand. [1:27:02] See, that's true. I think she wrote it by hand first and then typed it out later. I mean, that's so amazing. I also think that's how Bill Clinton wrote his autobiography. My life? Yeah, he wrote it. I'm 99% sure he wrote it. It's crazy to me. Yeah. I wrote first two potters by hand. Wow. And typed them on a 10 year old typewriter All the writer needs is talent and that's insane. That is amazing. That's amazing hand drawn plot map for inception Wow That's nuts that is nuts Wow, what a psycho no computer Wow, what a psycho no computer That's great and this guy does like the most advanced screen his movies are always like maybe that's why maybe he realizes like he has more Bandwidth yeah Concentrating on something that's really important. I'm unless that's less room for nonsense But the but those things you think they would give you more time for that kind of thought [1:28:03] But yeah, I think but I think they also distract you. There's so much distraction online. It's so difficult to do work. And I guess if you just choose to not engage in it at all, then you're only concentrating on work because you're not checking your favorite sites. No. You're not seeing what's on YouTube. And him and J.K. were both going to the magic realm. They go into another realm. So maybe that's how they get there. Oh, especially J.K. or she created a whole world. She really did. A whole world of wizards and lost kids and, you know, magic spells. Great shit. Amazing. Yeah. And now she's in trouble. Oh, God. She thinks men and women are women. I mean, it's just insane that she can actually have that kind of insane opinion. How dare. Oh, dare she. It's psychotic because she's in real trouble. I was like, oh, she's not canceled. Yeah. I mean, she's making her money because of her books, but don't act like she's not canceled. [1:29:01] Well, people, she gets death threats. I mean, it's like, it's weird. It's a weird, the weirdest. That's a big part of it. People like that can all get together. People that think that's okay to get together and act as a gang. And everyone's so terrified of them, they just kind of let them do it. And nobody like stands up and says, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. Everybody's just kind of quiet. Even people that are on the left, they'll, they'll support the people that are canceling her so that they don't get canceled. Yeah. You see it happen all the time. Yep. Instead of saying, hey, you know, she's a wonderful person and she has a right to her opinion and it's a very reasonable opinion in fact. Yeah. What are you saying? Crazy. It's terrible. Yeah, and that's why they're so adamant about getting you to comply. We can't be any debate on it because they know it's ridiculous. So they have to fight you with tooth and nail. Trans women are women. Yeah. Okay, all of them? Are you sure? Are you sure all of them? [1:30:01] Maybe you got a few psychos in there that are pretending? Yeah. No. No. Okay. It's crazy. Yeah. And those are the ones that go after JK Rowling, the psychos. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, at least she stands up. That lady's got courage. She's got a lot of courage. Yeah. She won't stop talking about it. I think she probably probably took her forever to realize like this isn't going away. So this is just what it is. Fuck you. Fuck you, the truth is the truth. Fuck off. Fuck off. I had a Riley Gaines on the podcast. You know what she is? Oh yeah, this one. Yeah. That's crazy case. Yeah. He just let a guy start swimming with girls. He says he's a girl. And when he wins, he goes, well, I guess she's the best. You're like, excuse me, I gotta clean my goggles for a second. I think I saw something. You imagine when we were kids, this fellow being a legitimate issue that's like national, but it's just everybody in the sidelines is watching the pool gone. [1:31:05] Yeah. They should all be able to vote. Like everyone should vote. Like get every ever one of these things. Like how many of you think that a biological male should be like? And if you say yes, and if it wins, then the biological male skin can play that's absolutely right. If everybody says no, no, you can't do it. But that's a thing. Instead of just saying look, we all understand, trans people deserve rights, they get abused. We all agree. But you can't be on the swim, you can't be on the swim. You can't fight girls. You can't. You just can't. All the end stuff we understand. We understand. No, you can't, no, you can't even play basketball against girls, you're too big. But saying that is really considered hate speech. I know, that's what's nuts. Despite, but that's where it's anti-science. Because if you just want to look at it objectively, if you didn't think of it as a man and a woman, if you just took it like an equation, if you just looked at the numbers that are on one side of this equation, [1:32:01] if you're trying to pretend that these two numbers are equivalent and you look at one of them and it has much greater lung capacity, much stronger heart, denser bones, different hip structure, less susceptibility to ACL tears, different reaction times. If you just looked at the system, just a system of what it means to be a male human being and compared it to like the elite of elite female human beings. You go, oh, this is not an equal. It's not equal. It's just not equal. Yeah. And I guarantee his, his said part also is I guarantee most trans people feel the same way and they can't say it. Right. Because they're not trying because they'll be considered sellouts. If they say it in a community, they'll be considered sellouts and they're not allowed to say their opinion. Well, there's a rift now between a lot of gay people and trans people. But I say gay people are like, I'm not a girl, I just like guys. They're like, you don't say, and you're encouraging young boys to change their gender. [1:33:02] And they're not gonna be able to come anymore. Like if you're encouraging them to get the operation, which is crazy because they're doing thousands of them, you'll never have an orgasm again. They remove your penis. It's gone. They create a vagina. You have to keep it dilated with a thingy stuff up there. Are you sure? Are you sure? You know? Yeah. Wait till you, you you know 35 At least that's those decisions. Yeah, if you're a 35 year old guy and you want to become a girl God bless it God bless you, but that's the thing I think a lot of trans people agree with all of this I do I think they did too and they just they know that they're not allowed because They don't want to throw the baby out of the bath water and it's like there's a lot of things going on with it like why would I? Sacrifice against my community when I'm just going to get screwed by both sides on it. That's the other thing that goes on with the internet. Historia is that suddenly if you deviated all you're out in bed standing with everybody. Yeah well that's a problem with detransitioners. The people that transition and have deeper grit they get attacked. They get attacked. It's crazy. Yeah, and then gay people who say that they wanted to be trans [1:34:06] and they're younger, but then they realized they're just gay when they're older and thank God it didn't do anything. Those people get attacked. Yeah. But that's a large number. There was a study about that about how a lot of the people that thought that they were trans and they're younger, if in time they're just gay. Yeah. if in time they're just gay. But when there's a thing that you're told, like, oh no, you're this, then they give you hormones, which adjust everything, literally changes the way you feel. And for girls to boys, it alleviates anxiety, which is a problem, because then you think this is what I've always been. Now, you're taking testosterone. Like, of course you're gonna feel different, and now you're saying, oh, this is how I always been. Now, you're taking testosterone. Like, of course, you're gonna feel different. And now you're saying, oh, this is how I always was. If it is how you always, where you wouldn't have to take this exogenous hormone, that wouldn't be necessary. If you think you're a boy, just be a boy, you know, you might just be a gay girl. And if you think you're a boy and you're a girl, just live your life the way you wanna live your life. [1:35:06] Absolutely. But if you start injecting things into your body when you're 14 or 15 years old, you'll never be the same again. It's just, you don't have a chance, that normalcy, it's gone. If you change your mind and one day you decide to have children, you might not be able to. You might have ruined your voice. You might have changed and masculineized your features permanently forever. And you might not have really wanted that. You might have just had anxiety. I mean, I started smoking cigarettes when I was 14. Even though it's a different thing, but it's the same. They say if you start smoking before you're 18, you have the chance of dying young of lung cancer. A thousand different things. Oh, yeah, that's a years thing, right? So how many years you smoke? Yeah, I mean, that's what you start to. The crazy thing is like when we were kids, people hadn't really got it in their head that smoking was killing people. Yeah. I'm sorry. They fought that so long. They did such a great job bullshitting people. [1:36:01] They did such a great job of saying, yeah, it's probably not that bad for you. Because smoking looks cool. That does look cool. It still looks cool. I see those old French Italian movies, I'm like, oh man, they're livin'. They're fuckin' sittin' and smoking. Bad ass. It's also the idea when you know it's bad for you that this person doesn't care that it's bad for them. They're livin bad for them. They're living for now. Yeah, well that's true. That's a person in the moment. Just living for now. Fuck the future. I remember when I was 11, I had to go down to, I wanted to buy a 45 record. I'm from the days, there were 45 records, and I asked my aunt could I have a cigarette? Because you had to walk two avenues, and each block, three blocks and two avenues. And every block, there's was a group of kids, also 11 years old, that will up at that hour, hey you, that's what you didn't wanna hear. Hey kid, you're like oh, fuck. So I said, if I have a cigarette, I'll just, it wasn't lit, and she gave me a cigarette, a tarry tin, [1:37:01] and I walked down the block with my cigarette. was out anyway, but you know that was my move that in the karate max Yeah, that's does it to the moves and the six judo glasses young kid with a cigarette the lose dangerous little fuck Yeah, but the karate man. Yeah, I do really commit. I literally had to stand on the train like this a horse dance Yeah, and stand like this with the magazine open Like this middle subway Who's gonna do that a karate guy? Yeah, yeah and stand like this with the magazine open, and change something like this, middle of subway. Hmm. Who's gonna do that? A karate guy. Yeah. Yeah. Smart. It's definitely better than putting in all that work. You don't wanna do that? Sadly, that's really my motive. Is that a lazy person? Yeah, you don't wanna get hit in the head a bunch of times. You know what he guys I know can't breathe out of their nose Fucking large percentage of them, but I but on Smith he went and got the trophy. That's even better. That's a smart move So he's a funny dude, man. Oh funny. He's so funny. That's so hilarious such a funny thing to do [1:38:03] I knew a story about a dude who is a fake black belt. He actually wound up killing a guy later on in life. Wow, he was in that fake. You know, it's it's a crazy story, but the guy was just a just a compulsive liar, pathological liar. And he claimed he was a black belt in some martial art and a lot of people started getting real suspicions of them. What he did was he made his friend drop him off in the woods and he brought a duffle bag with him and he said he was entering into a kumate like a no rules kumate karate fight in the woods and come back and pick me up here tomorrow. So the guy shows up the next day and now he doesn't have the duffle bag but now he has a trophy that's the same size as the duffle and now he doesn't have the duffel bag, but now he has a trophy. That's the same size as the duffel bag, and he said he won the tournament. And so he gets in the guy's car, and the guy drives him back, he's like, what? Wow. So he's telling, he just made up a karate tournament in the woods and had his friend drop him off, [1:39:02] and then had a bag that he brought with him. He was so not clutch. Like, brought a duffel bag. What's in the duffel bag? You know, whatever. Yeah. It's a my gay. It's a Friday tournament. Whatever. My gay. There's a karate tournament. Well, trophy in there. We guess you tell them, I'm the kind of guy that's like, yeah, I like that kit. You call it a composed of light. I call him a creative thinker. So what a little credit for his martial arts. He was apparently allegedly banging this guy's wife and found the guy, got the guy in his karate studio and strangled the guy to death and then was seen driving around in the guy's car and eventually got arrested for it. Now wait a minute. He was, he had a karate studio. Yeah, yeah, he was a fake black belt that had a martial arts studio. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And he actually had some people that trained with him that were legit martial arts. He didn't know. And he was like kind of just proficient enough [1:40:03] in the bullshit and got some guys who actually knew a little bit. Yes. Right. He's just like, hey, do you think it took 20 minutes? I could teach you how to choke a person pretty quickly. It's not hard to teach someone how to do this with your arm and that with your arm. It's just being able to do it to a person is very difficult. But I could show you very quickly how to squeeze it off and you would be really effective at it. And so that's what he did to this guy. Like, he strangled him to death. He got behind him and he just choked him to death and then he stole his car and just driving out. I don't know what they did with the body. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I remember like, because we had already confronted that guy and being a fake my friend Eddie actually had a very uncomfortable phone conversation with him While I was with him where he's like you're full of shit man like you're not a black belt There's no fucking way you're a black belt is like because he was he was telling him he did another thing while we're together Like he went to Thailand to [1:41:05] went to Thailand to compete in some mixed martial arts fight. And he had just learned this move called the Twister. Very difficult move to pull off. And he came back and he told Eddie that he won his fight by the Twister and Eddie was like, what? What the fuck are you talking about? Like how did you do that? You don't know how to do that. Like you're not good. Like he had rolled with the guy. He knew the guy was terrible. He was saying that, oh, I'm a black belt in Japanese, Jiu Jitsu, it's different. He was like, no, he was incompetent. He was like a white belt on the ground. He knew when he said he won this match, he didn't really go to Thailand. This is fake, this guy's a nut. And so Eddie had separated from him, and then after that, we hear the story that he killed this guy, and it was driving the guy's fucking Jaguar around town, like holy shit. Yeah. Don't you think the compulsive liars, like I feel like there's not enough research on what it is, [1:42:04] because sometimes you'll be like, that's not true. And they look at you and they, you're not embarrassing them. They part of them believes it's true. They're broken. I think they're broken. They're broken. They don't care if you, uh, if you feel good or bad, they just want you to buy their story. Yeah. Yeah. They're not really there. They're not really connecting to you. That's their only mission in life. That is, sometimes you just even benefit them and they still, that's the most important thing to them. Have you read about guys who have pretended to be doctors and set up practices and operated on people? I went to one. The guy, I went to one in a... For real? Yeah. this is in the 90s. And I'll tell you this, it's all over the paper. Dean, I forget his last name, but he's in prison right now for life. Dean, I'll look it up later, but anyway, somebody tells me I had like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, take it off and it's a good dermatologist dean something Anyway, so he sets up an appointment and it's on a Saturday at a doctor's park Avenue [1:43:12] It's but it's Saturday and I was like, oh cool. I'm off a Saturday. I go over to his office. I walk in When I think back now it was like nobody no receptionist just him He goes, yeah, I'm just working Saturday by myself. He goes, I let the receptionist off. I was like, oh, cool. I go in the office, it's kind of dark, you know, but it's doctors' office. And I guess he worked for the doctor when he had the keys or something. He was in any slices of the thing off, it kind of hurt. It healed very badly, but he healed. But it was not a great job. I remember thinking I never go back to that guy. He overdid it. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't. The Nova came was weird. But anyway, like four years later, Dean Fiello. F-A-I. I was waiting to make sure it was the right guy. That's the guy. Shed's light on Bosch procedure that left New York woman dead nearly 20 years ago. Oh my God. He buried her. He buried her under constant. Under a concrete slab. It's good thing I left. Oh my [1:44:09] own. Holy shit. That's a guy. Psycho. Yeah. And it was like really like he looked like, you know, he was like well quaffed hair and he's crazy. I brought the guy. Yeah. I knew 20 years ago. He looked much better. Buried out. Whoa. I don't know exactly how they were talking to him. I was like, he got out. No, when he was young, that picture doesn't do him justice. When he was, what's that? Was he creepy? Yeah, you got to see the young, when he's young, the picture when he's young. He looks like, not creepy, do it. Yeah, there he is on the left. That's Dean. Yeah. That's when they caught him. Yeah. Wow. Fake doctor Dean Fiello feared something would go wrong. Yeah, I went to a gym. Did he think? Did he have any medical history? I mean, he must have worked for an office because he had the keys to the doctor's office. He must have been like a, the receptionist. He was, the crazy person. He was a receptionist or something, yeah. [1:45:06] And what year was this where he's doing all this stuff? He's from Madison, Jersey. Most likely, he's succeed by his classmates. Wow. Wow. He worked in construction. Before being involved at a baseball, became skilled at hair removal. 1996 began his own practice, Skin Ovation's from an office on park Avenue. Wow the blood vessel removal tattoo removal and this He's leased selling himself short. He also removed moles Wow, that must have been the office park Avenue in 1973. So how did she die of this lady die? 70 third. So how did she die of this lady die? Let's see. Lidocaine. He had completed the same procedure on Cruz over a dozen times before without her experiencing an allergic reaction to lidocaine. Oh, he was not licensed to perform this procedure. He admitted doing at least 14 times on Cruz alone. [1:46:00] He went on to claim that after some time Cruz had bubbles coming out of her mouth and her body went limp by his own account. He delayed calling for help, but allegedly attempting CPR but could not get her to start breathing again. He adds a despite being previously certified in electrolysis for hair removal. He didn't have the proper training for what to do when a patient goes into shock. Jesus Christ, what a crazy person. An unverified claim made by Fiello who is not licensed or trained to make medical diagnosis and claims that he didn't know how to check for a pulse. He admitted walking away while she, while he believed she was dying of shock. Fiello later called a doctor. He knew personally to explain his version of what happened to Cruz according to Vanity Fair reporter Brian Burrow. The doctor told them to either call 911 or rush cruise to a hospital emergency room. Instead of helping cruise, Fayello shoved cruise his body into a black suitcase, which had been stolen days earlier from his housemate Mark Richey. Fayello claims he put the suitcase containing Maria Cruz in his car and drove straight home. [1:47:04] Then he left her in the trunk for two days before finally removing her body into his garage, which was just undergoing renovations. It's unclear whether Maria Cruz was still alive when Faelo began to try to cover up his actions. Cruz's wallet and purse were discovered by Faelo's housemate inside a black gym bag placed under a rafter in the unfinished ceiling of the garage in August 2003 just one month after Faelos kicked out. He later admitted in June 2003 nearly three months after Cruz was killed that he had buried Cruz's body underneath the garage before pouring cement right before a sale of the house was closed. Boy boy and see what I said the numbing agent did work that doctor cement right before a sale of the house was closed. Boy. Boy, and see what I said, the numbing agent didn't work. That doctor just kept his fucking mouth shut, huh? The doctor he called? Yeah. That doctor never told nobody. Yeah. That was kinda creepy. That's really creepy. You know, the doctor never goes, Hey man, whatever happened to that lady? [1:48:01] Yeah. He didn't even ask. So like nobody even knew, and all of a sudden she was, if that moron didn't leave that gym bag behind, he might have gotten away with it. He probably would have. I'd be going to him today. I mean, in 2003, how good were there catcher people? Yeah. Not as good, right? No. But isn't that funny when I just said that numbing aging didn't work and that's he obviously tried to. Oh God. Okay. In the aftermath of the call between mutual friend, oh, the mutual friend of fail, oh, he did rat him out. They both realized failo lied when he stated he got the woman to medical help and that she was fine. Box searched the house. Now, failo wasn't there. And while looking in the garage were called failo, using concrete but just before moving out. Batch remembered how uncharacteristically secretive he was about the project and his overwrite reaction when Bach walked in on him pouring concrete. According to New York State detective Lieutenant TJ Mulroney, Bach box information gave us the break in the investigation we were hoping for. [1:49:07] Uh-huh. His ex-boyfriend. Oh. Brian Ford received a tip from Faelos ex-boyfriend Greg Bach. Okay. So that's who Bach is. Maria Crease's body was recovered from the property, now occupied by new homeowners. Boy, can they get their money back? I'm gonna fucking live with that house. This lady was underneath the garage. You're parking your Honda over a dead lady for months. Well, think of how many people don't know that this happened in their whole life. Yeah, a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Dun dun dun dun. Did you ever see that was my guy? Yeah. It was a composable life. Did you ever eat murder machine? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, those guys were something, huh? Yeah, that was a joy deers termion that book's scared that shit out of me. About Roy Dimaio. Meanwhile my friends had grew up around there. They were little kids who told me they used to throw snowballs at the old man's bar, that bar, they're like, ah, ah, they throw snowballs bar like I had to throw so balls at the old man drinking there. I mean they were just slaughtering people. [1:50:07] Yeah, they're throwing 12 year old kids like I had the old back. Throwing mafia. Snowballs is the mafia still a thing? I mean, I don't think it's I mean, it's still a thing, but I don't think it's nothing. I mean, when you think about how important the mafia was in the 50s and 60s and 70s, it's in, even the 80s, but it's insane how much power they had. Vegas. I mean, they probably killed Kennedy. I mean, well, it had something to do with it, but they, even if they didn't, they had so much power over so many industries. It was insane. Well, you gotta remember Kennedy fucked them over. Yeah. Because they got him in. They helped him win. They helped him win. But they say that. But how much did they, so they got him Chicago. You know what I mean? It's a lot. I guess so. But I mean, yeah. And then he turned on. Well, he led Robert Turnon, I mean. Yeah. Robert Turnon. Not good. [1:51:06] But here's the weird thing. Didn't Robert Turnon them in the 50? Was that the, I feel like that was before Kennedy was president. But maybe? Really? Real promise to lay off and then he didn't. Really? But I guess that's why I would love to, that's the Kennedy pay I want those papers. Did you hear what trumpets out about them? What then you don't want to see them or something? Yeah, I said if they showed you what they showed me you wouldn't release it either But what does that mean? He said he's gonna release him if they said that means they that means they threatened him Probably means it threatened what else could it mean? Well, I think you wouldn wouldn't want to release it either. It's like, what's gonna happen? It's 60 years later. What could it be? It could destroy the CIA. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's why we always get that. Yeah, that's why we should release it. That if you were the president and they told you that, what would you do? Well, you the CIA or do you say you know what we're going to hide this and you're going to give the CIA even more power. [1:52:06] But I'm saying he's the thing. If you're the killed the president. Whatever this was 2019 right? What you would do is you would say this CIA was nothing like today's CIA. That was back in 1963. You know what I mean? That's what you would say. You would say that was the terrible time in our history and thank God there's been several changes. I just don't know if people would accept that. Accept that the CIA hasn't changed? Yeah, I don't think they would. I think it would open up scrutiny that would be almost impossible for them to do their job the way they do it right now. They just changed the name of the organization. They changed I.N.S became ICE became ASI became like the name of the organization. They changed, immigration, INS became, I used to became ASI became, you know what I mean? Like, change the name of the CIA, how dare you? Yeah. What are your communists? Changes to the Central Intelligence Agency. I never liked that name anyway, it's stupid. You know what I mean? It's gotta be a better name. [1:53:00] What do you, what do you, what do you propose? The United States over, let's think of something like the... Overlords? How about the... That's what they are, it's information overlords. Let's just cut to the chase. The information overlords. We decide what gets out out we find out what's Happening how about the American shadow boys Ooh I like it shadow boys sounds like a cool band yeah that was like like it's like a cool bluegrass band Shadow boys six dreams like some do with a band zone they play it's six dreams. Yeah, that's how it sounds like a good band The shadow boys. I like that. All right, I'm good at band names. Are you giving me another one? I tried to make my nephew back 20 years ago and he was trying to be a band. I said, call yourselves, do you know what's? Ha ha ha ha ha. Cause that was one of my favorite jokes that we had that paratrooper. Oh, you have any other parry joke about that guy buys the parrot and he goes you know what about his parry He's got a filthy mouth and he goes I can handle it back comes home to parry because he missed a mistake [1:54:10] He goes what he goes go fuck yourself the guy goes don't talk to me that smacks the cage parrot beats up the parry He goes don't ever I go I'm not the guy to play with like that next day comes home Packers they missed a mistake goes what he goes go fuck yourself He goes you piece so smash you almost drown the parody goes next I'm gonna go fuck myself. I'm gonna kill you. I promise you I'm gonna kill you Next day shows up from after work. Packers. Hey, miss Davis to goes what? Packers you know what I forgot my joke. That's a good way. That's a good one. That's what they used to do in the old days. Cats cold guys. They just go up there and tell jokes. Um, there's still guys to do that. Yeah. I hate to say it. And I always get jealous because I'm always like, God damn it. They work every time. [1:55:04] Right. They're great jokes. Yeah. All those old jokes people like all that's the old jokes like yeah and they're great jokes. Yeah. But you know we would never do it. We would never lower ourselves. Yeah. The weird thing about great jokes is who wrote them? Where do they come from? I tried to get I used to live in the same building with Jackie Martling the joke man. Jackie the joke man. So one time I go Jackie his well just like 15 years ago We're gonna do a documentary. We're gonna find out all the jokes where they come from who wrote them I said because you must know a lot of this because he knows every joke ever written, you know So I go you you must know some of this he goes no I don't I go what? He goes I don't know any of those. I go, you know all these jokes, your whole life is built on it. You didn't bother to try to fight. He was, I have no idea where they came from. So even he doesn't know. I don't think anybody knows. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that weird that nobody? Some of these jokes were And nobody knows. Nobody knows where any of them came from. It's weird. [1:56:06] It's weird. And some of them are great. Where do they come from? And that's also, we have that with memes now. And some memes, you know who did it, because they put like a watermark on it, and they posted on their site. Some memes, you get in a text message chain. Someone just sends you something, you're like, ah! Life! message chain someone just sends you something like right and then you send it to your friends and like and nobody knows where it came from and some of them are some of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen online really funny really funny yeah where does it all come from well you're getting now especially especially with memes you're getting the input of millions of people and there's so many people out there That could have been comics and just chose not to be they either they didn't try it and they have a mind for it Right or but they're funny then so they get their funny out on sneak tip They get their funny out when no one's looking they take a picture of Taylor Swift [1:57:02] And they do something to it and they write something underneath it Yeah, and they post it up there and they were like, ah, and that's how they're doing comedy. They're getting that out in this way. And when you're sourcing from millions and millions and millions of people like we're doing currently, probably more, probably billions of in English speaking people that are contributing to the mean pool of the world. Right. Because you have all these other countries with millions of people. It's probably a billion plus people that are doing that. And they're all online. And out of those, you're gonna get a few thousand hilarious people that have never done stand up and could be a David towel. They just never did it. Right. That's right. Yeah, I mean, those minds exist. Oh, I used to have a few friends that were really front. We had this friend, Al, a friend, Al, would work down in ambulance. He would come home every night. And remember, he would have an experience every night because he's an ambulance. Right. He would come back and tell us stories. And people would be the next day. And we'd be crying. Because every night the way [1:58:02] he told, he was a funny guy. Yeah And he would just talk about all the abuse he took as the stripper. So I pull up and he was that kind of guy, like you said, he could have been a great comic. Yeah, there's a lot of guys like that. The funniest guy I ever knew who wasn't a comic was a guy I worked for. He was a private investigator, his name was Dave Dolan. He's called himself Don and my dickless Dave Dolan. He's called himself Dona My Diculous Dave Dolan. He's like leave messages on my voicemail. I still have a phone number that I haven't gotten rid of. I have this phone because it has a voicemail on it from him before he died. And he was a private investigating, lost his license, trunk driving. And so he needed someone to be his driver. So he put an ad in the newspaper for private investigators apprentice. I was like, oh, I'll try that. I needed some other kind of a job to just sustain myself. I was trying to make a living doing stand-up. And so I drove this guy around for six months until he got his license back. And we did a lot of private investigation. And you just make your laugh all my god. He was hilarious. He was so funny. He was so funny about everything. He was always funny. He was just on. He was [1:59:05] everybody he talked to. They just start smiling. The moment they start talking to this guy. He was a charming dude. He was smart as shit. He was just very, very funny. And he was, I would be crying. And I remember telling my girlfriend at the time, I came back and we went out to dinner that night and we were eating and I was like, I'm not anywhere near as funny as this guy and he doesn't even want to be a comedian. No. I think it's so quick, because I was an open micro at the time. I was just starting. They just funny. He was just funny. I mean, just the fucking guy had a funny take on everything. Yeah. And he was a drunk, but he's quit drinking like that. Never went back to it. Never, never fell off the wagon, was getting hammered every night and then went to nothing and was still had the sensibility of a hilarious guy at the bar. He's still act like a drunk. He was stone-cold sober. He had no filter. Dick Dolan, yeah. Dying in my day of doing. Al Cantor, same thing. [2:00:00] Yeah, there's funniest, those guys out there Those guys would come out and just roll. 20 new minutes a day. It always makes me think about that Billy Joe song. You know, I'm sure that it could be a movie star if I could get out of this place. Right. Sing us a song. Yes. I mean, there's a lot of people out there that just never just never tried it. Never went for it. Never tried just something. And there's a million things you get in a way, you know, you're heard of foresters syndrome. No, I was looking up the origin of knock-dock jokes and this popped up during this article that said in Europe, incescent word play became treated as a psychological condition. Oh my god. Jamie's got to go to a hospital. Manic punning. People that were compulsively punning. That's Tony Hinchcliffe. Right. Tony Hinchcliffe would 100% get locked up. Compulsive punning in inappropriate jokes was known as forest or syndrome in the 19th or 20s or 30s. I guess that's back when people needed to go to work. There was only work. Joking. Joking, hold on, sorry. Joking just got the way of things. Especially in 1929, Austrian psychoanalyst A.A. Brill was exploring a melody termed whistle-shocked. [2:01:08] How do you say that? Yeah, that sounds good. Whistle-shocked. Whistle-shocked. An addiction to wisecracks, according to psychology today, German neurologist, octrid forster, identified manic punning in what eventually became known as forster syndrome. Wow. And then I guess people got tired of it. They lumped knock knock jokes in there. Cause like there's like in the radio in the 30's, people were like knock knock jokes everywhere. And clubs. By the way, would this not be a great movie? Yeah. What would be great movie? Like, okay, so we all agree basically that the first real standup in terms of like the way we do it was Lenny, right? Lenny Bruce. Yes. He was the first. So he was the first game change to just talk about stuff. Game change. Yeah. Just talk about stuff and make it funny instead of just have like a series of jokes that anybody could tell. Well, not anybody, but right. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, like Catskill guys, they could all, so many of them were just joke-towers. [2:02:06] Yeah, no, he was a game changer. Yeah. Who have you seen live? Who'd you get as chance to see live? Do you see prior live? No. Never. I had Colin on Tough Crowd. Oh really? That was fun. Oh wow. There must have been awesome. That was really awesome. My whole, all my family. My family never really, you know, come to show. I'm from New York so my cousins, everybody, they've been in my shows over the years, but you know, this is already a hundred years, they're not gonna come. I forget how I knew, but I told them, the whole stands, there was 40 or 50 of my family my cousins my uncles my aunt was calling for Irish people of a certain they that cat that routine he did was like it's the first of us are comedy have that power or two he like they would just listen to it and just laugh [2:03:01] over the Catholic school experience that traumatized that. And this guy did 13 minutes explaining it. Yeah. That 30. It's all a bit was 13 minutes and it changed their whole lives. It is. And so they all showed up and it was just a really powerful and he was said, hi, you know, like he understood like he went out there and was like, Hey, how you doing to them? It was really interesting. Look at Lil Skinny Jim. Yep. Well, young babyface Colin Quinn. Jim demanded to be in that show by the way. Oh, yeah. He loves Colin. Oh, yeah. Looking Nick to follow. Oh, yeah. Young and handsome. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was a great time. And it's just, but you were so good as a host. Thanks. Thanks. Have you thought about doing something like that? Will you host something with Kyle? Well, when I did, when I did, I did this cop show on YouTube that was basically like a Lauren Order show. And I started having comedians on it. I was planning on making it like, like I would have Jim on, but the plot would involve insulting him and attacking him and [2:04:06] then Bobby Kelly came on and he stressed his sister, like a villain and he's complaining about me putting him in this, you know, women's outfit and Keith Robinson. So it became sort of like that's what I would do, but I mean, I ran out of money, but I mean, but that's, I did a bunch of those cop show type things. think that's what I'm doing in a lot of ways was the beginning of podcasting Yeah, I think a combination of the opian Anthony show and tough crowd Yeah, because those are the first places where comics got together and just talk shit and beat himself And talk shit to each other and riff in and laugh and at each other and have them together. And you saw the combrottery, which you didn't really see that with comedians. You saw them on stage by themselves, telling the routine, you never saw them sitting down together like that. No, no. Yeah, it was definitely an interesting thing, but I thought I would do it in that form, [2:05:01] the cops should think, because that was more, you could still do it, and you could make fun of the culture at the same time. It was another way of doing it, but anyway, I did that for a while, but, you know. But that show was groundbreaking, because like you guys would, you would cover like cultural issues, current news events, things that were happening, you get all these comics have a take on things and Then and then trash somebody's personal life too in the middle of it and there's there's clips on on Instagram Like there's a there's one channel that has a all tough crowd clips and you go and watch you oh my god These guys would be it's so much trouble today. Oh, we'd be gone even back then we got in trouble I know but it's it's crazy. I, we're talking like Tough Crowd ended 2000. What? 2004. 2020 years. Wow, 20 years ago. Isn't that crazy? That's 20 years ago. God boy, it makes no sense. Time is just a motherfucker, isn't it? It's ridiculous. It's so quick. [2:06:01] It's terrible. It's so long and yet so quick. So much experience and yet it just all happened just a little while ago. But so long ago, 20 years long. It's really long time. It's insane to me. It feels like it was yesterday. It feels like it never happened. It feels like both. It feels like it was just recent and like it was never it never occurred. It's a movie I watched right right like if you watch it you want to remember what you said and you think about gerardo patrice these guys had long gone you know when you're crazy gerardo story sure really weird i went to a movie recently and i'm leaving the movie theater and uh... i went into the bathroom and uh... as i'm leaving the bathroom, this guy walks in and he recognizes me and he said, hey, what's up? And I go, what's up? And I thought it was Greg Gerardo for like one second because he was like, he was taller, but he looked exactly like a young Gerardo. [2:07:03] And my brain, I didn't expect to see him. And so I opened the door and this guy's there and he says, what's up to me? And I think he recognized me because it's, like, you know, Greg's dead. And this isn't Greg. Like, this is great. And I'm like, hey, what's up, man? How you doing? Nice to meet you. wife, I said, I just thought I saw a dead friend of mine. For one second, I thought it was him. So I know it sounds crazy, but I was so happy to see him for that one second. Yes. It's like a dream, yeah. It was horrible, but it was great. It was great. For that one second, it was great. Because I was like, Greg. Yeah. But it wasn and they're going forever. He was on the same set as me when I was doing news radio. So we were doing news radio at one of the buildings and his building was right next door when he was doing his sitcom. So we were always hanging out together in the parking lot and talk shit and watch Joey Lawrence get into his car. [2:08:01] I mean, that's great. And we're doing what? When you see, of course. Yeah, he had a sitcom there too. Yeah they had a big scandal recently some chambalysis thing right? What? Who did? Really? I thought I saw something. For real? I didn't hear about that. Yeah I think they were involved in that maybe. What is it? I don't know because there's also a lawsuit about one of the things I don't know. Sorry there's a lawsuit about one of those. Now, I don't like the story. Google that. I haven't heard that story at all, but he was, he would play his own music in his car. Oh, Joey. He had like a Mercedes. Whoa. Yeah. Play his own music. Rocking out. Must've been fun. We have beautiful handsome 19 year old with a sitcom. that just playing his own music and it's cars like, oh, this guy. I love it when you run into another comedian when you're involved with non-comedy things. Yes. Matthew Lawrence. That's what it was. My agency fired me after a fuse to take my clothes off for an award-winning director. Right. Whoa. Whoa. [2:09:01] So they were involved in the victim side of it. Yes, he was supposed to be like a superhero movie. One of these things. Oh, Jesus Christ. Ooh. It's creepy when you find out how much of that stuff is real. Yeah, it is. You know, the more they unveil, the more stories come out. Unbelievable. Kids, Nickelodeon, like the Nickelodeon. Nice, they need Nickelodeon, why shouldn't it? Doesn't it make sense, Tho? Like if you were a fucking creep, you'd wanna work with kids. There's been many times in my life where I've been proposition to get a huge role Lawrence says in the podcast, I lost my agency because I went to the hotel room where the actor ledges a prominent director showed up in his robe, asked me to the next Marvel character, holy fuck. Yo. If he's telling the truth. Yo. Yeah. You know who else was on the set? Lenny Clark. Oh, he was? Yeah, Lenny Clark was on that show with, what the fuck was his name? [2:10:00] He played a judge. He used to be on that. Harry, Harry, something. Anderson? God damn it. He had a show. It was a show was his name John Larracette. Yes, the John Larracett show. So you pull up the cast the John Larracett show. Did you hear that? Sure, but Lenny clock that when he when he first got a sitcom in the 80s, I sure about there and not 91 whatever it was. There it is, look at Lenny. So I knew Lenny because the second time I ever got paid to do stand up, I opened for Lenny. And Lenny's like, kid, you're hilarious. He gave him all his great advice. I was like, oh, you shit Lenny Clark from HBO. He said I'm funny. He laughed at me, like this was amazing. And so years later, he was like five, six years later, Lane and I are working on sitcoms on the same lot, just right next to each other. But the story is when he got his own sitcom, Lenny, back in like 91, and he went to the bank, and he says, I went to the bank, [2:11:00] I think you told me this story, maybe I heard it on a show, but he goes and they go Well, Mr. Clark you can't buy this house. We need this collateral He goes here's my collateral. He showed him a TV guide. He was on the cover Cover TV guy back when that was a good thing he got robbed he did yeah, he's agent He had and he was a part of I think it was I don't believe star agent robbing I know crazy, but I think this one person got like Jerry Seinfeld Story spotlight yes, that's it then not star spotlight. Yeah, they fucked everybody. Oh, yeah They stole millions of dollars, right? Whatever happened with all that they were in I don't know, but I think they were very connected and certain areas. What I heard, yeah. So nothing happened. Not good. Nothing happened. Damn. Yeah. Got robbed. A lot of people lost money. It's like a Bernie Madoff type deal almost. That's right. For comedy, yeah. [2:12:01] Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, Well handy to your mother, Colin. What's up about a Colin? Well, handle your money. I mean, and we were so stupid. And I remember Brett Butler telling me, look at these assholes, talking about Spala. These guys come in here to hit a rob us. And I go, that's, I was thinking like, what do you have to do? Those, they take that percentage. As I was thinking, I was six plus later, I'm like, oh shit, they came right in. They come with the, because that's what's so great when people are robbing you, is they're not, they're coming in like friendly, they're hanging out with you as friends. Yeah. They're going to the diner. They're bringing all that human being shit and then they fucking rob you the whole deal. The whole deal. Yes. The sociopaths are amongst us. They're sociopaths. They do exist. They do and many of them are successful in business. Well we talked about them last night like joke thief sociopaths. There's a bunch of them too. Yes, that's right. They're sociopaths. That's what it is. That's how they can do that. Well, they, they, they disassociate themselves from what they're doing. [2:13:06] The same thing with those pathological liar. Like that guy Dean, he didn't think it was going to kill her. He's like helping her. Like they're not thinking, I mean, they know they have to cover it up. Same with joke. These, they think they, they don't think they're joke thieves. They're like, no, no, I'm just, I'm inspired. But what do they think everybody does it? Or do they think everybody's influence? Yeah. What was the story with the spotlight? Can you find that? What did they do? I don't think it even, I don't even think they, I don't think it became a thing. I think it was just we knew about it. I've been astounding in an article. So they were connected? Is that what the deal is? That was, that was the word and it seemed like when I look back up like oh yeah, that makes sense Like they were just you know so much shady. I know the more yeah, it's you the more the time Yeah, and they were just Yeah shady motherfuckers. Yeah hanging out with you and I remember the lead I don't remember his name, but he looked just like remember that movie angel heart when De Niro plays Lewis Cypher [2:14:04] Lucifer. He looked like him. Yeah. You ever hear that Zach Bryan song, a damn cold vampires? No. It's a great fucking song. It's about that. It's a great song. It's about the industry. It's called damn vampires in the name, but he says these damn cold vampires is the song. Yeah. Well, it's trying to build an empire off the things that they can take. Yeah. Yeah. It's all it is. It's their building an empire off of other people's work. And Kim and they're doing. It's just, and comedians and the e- I guess other people all, but comedians are really the easiest because we're not business people. We don't have a business mind. Right Right, right. So it's like, they look around, they go, and they probably think to themselves like, hey, if they want like any thief things, if it was that important to them, they wouldn't leave it out there. No! So just take it. They didn't ask about the check, you take it. Right. Because we get sidetracked and we all have like some kind of, well, if you're in a corrupt business and everybody else is corrupt too, and in chill business in the early days, [2:15:05] it was all corrupt, it was all mob run, and everybody was, everybody was in code. Everybody was robbing, yeah. Oh my God, I mean, yeah. It's crazy. Wild business. Yeah. But yeah, so we were on that. So the Greg D'Aurodo thing was like Greg and I were just hanging out in the parking lot all the time. I got I knew him in New York, but I really got to know him on the set. Great guy. Is this some guys when they die you just go? No. Just no, no, no, not that one. Yeah. No, I know, I know. And he was, yeah, I mean he was, I'd see him every night for years and he was yeah, I mean he was I'd see him every night for years and it was great guy. Yeah Did you know Brody? Yeah, I knew Brody when he worked at the celly He's the the balker at the cell when we had to drag people in the cell. He was the balker He'd be great at that. He was great at it. Yeah [2:16:00] Yeah, he was a good dude, too. He was another one when he went I was like no Just no I know just what he died of suicide. Oh, no Exactly. Oh my god. That's one when you just go maybe if you saw him the night before I gave him a hug and told him how funny was I love him maybe would have helped a little you know He always had think things after the fact. Yeah. You know, he had gone through some episodes where he would go off his medication or you get a little crazy, then he'd go back on. And then every now and then, he'd just catch that groove and he'd be on stage and he would be on fire. I remember one time I was at the improv and it was a late late show It was like a 10 p.m. Show and I think my spa was like 11 30 So I do my spot and the foot the show's over this fucking 80 people in the crowd It's one of them deals and then Brody is gonna close the show and they introduce Brody Brody takes his shirt off And he's swinging it around overhead with music like they're playing music [2:17:02] He's swinging around and walking through the crowd. He's like energy positive energy. I'm swinging his shirt around and he goes on stage and he starts playing drums on the stool and everybody's going crazy and then he goes into his material eight one eight till I die and everybody's dying. I mean he just took over the room. And I remember staying like, he does so many these late night sets that he just comes on with his big energy and he just recharges the whole room. Everybody loved Brody. That's the kind of, yeah. That's like, well, let's say, that Dave Chris Falli thing where they would just come in and change the energy, right? Change the energy of the room. The whole energy was just like, whoa. And it's like, you can't pull it off unless you have them. Like, if you say, I'm gonna be that guy and you try it after like 30 seconds, she just fade. Yeah. They just, it brought more out in that. They just organically that way, you know? Exactly. Yeah. Like you said about Dickless Dave. [2:18:00] Yeah. Same thing. Same thing. It comes in people start smiling. Yeah, totally could a bit of comic. Yeah Yes, it's interesting how few people go down the path, you know, it's just a such a weird If you're gonna really you want to be successful in life It's not a good it's not a good road No It's it's so there's so many Weird obstacles to it that it's crazy and you really have to get hardened It's like every other business. I'm sure you're successful you have a little bit of your Innocence about humor has to die too, but you have to really it's a business for you too Mm-hmm as much as we love it and I love watching the business for you too. And as much as we love it, and I love watching comedians and being a comedian, and I love watching comedians doing their bits and working it out, it's still, you have to really be tough. You have to be tough to be a comedian. Something in you has to be able to tolerate a lot of shit. Yes. That's for sure. Yeah. You have to be able to tolerate bombing, [2:19:02] tolerate bad nights. Bombing. Everything. tolerate bombing, tolerate bad nights. This is everything. If you can tolerate bombing, that's people's biggest fear. Yeah, you can tolerate a lot in life. You can tolerate. That's your people's biggest fear. And we've literally had to stare in the face of a bomb boy at times that anybody can imagine. I mean, it's literally been over a hundred times in my life where I've had people hating my guts. Over a hundred times. A whole group of people. 100 times in my life where I've had people hating my guts Over a hundred times a group of people everyone's worst fear. Yeah, what year did you start? 84 Wow, so you were in the boom boom. I came in a year was like a little after the boom Yes, the boom was kind of like dying off like that But that boom in 84 must have been bananas. Well for me. I was new so we didn't even think of it We just let all this life, you know? Right. And suddenly, like, two years in, you're making money. Not a lot of money. It wasn't like, boss, and I always say, we're a director of the last time. I have my clock paid, real money, and all the guys were getting robbing us. And, I mean, just imagine, I tell people, I'm a comedian, they go, [2:20:05] what? You're a comedian? What? Like it would just blow people's minds that you were in comedy. And then a few years later, people were like, oh my cousin's a comedian, so it's all right then. Yeah. But at the time, it was blowing people's minds. Did they have open mics when you started? Oh, yeah, that's the only way we get on. Yeah. How many what where'd you go? Where's the first place? The paper moon. There's a place called the paper moon any bril was running this place any Brill. Yeah, so paper moon we started working out there. I started working out there You know and weasel my way into it and started working out and I would bring crowds Where was the paper? I was a good I was a good bringer. Yeah. I bring all my friends because I grew up in New York. Right. So my friends show up, you know, where was the people? On West, it's where the boys in comedy club became. Oh, wow. Downstairs. Downstairs. Downstairs. Oh. It was really cool. Boston comedy club was a great spot. We were so innocent. Yeah. We just thought, So we had a sound guy and we were like, hey, we're gonna do a film, we tried to do a film, [2:21:05] and everybody's so innocent. You saw it, you know? I never wanna do it again, but I'm glad I did it. Yeah. We met starting something like that from scratch. Imagine at your age trying a new thing. Yeah, people do do that, it's crazy. Like how do you have the energy? I guess it's their dream. Yeah, you can't, you can't, what did you say to this exactly like the energy to sustain all those drives to bomb for bad money and then like you said, you had a day job. And also I had a day job too. You had to make it because you didn't have any options. Yeah. The only way you were gonna make it is if you had options. My friends that all kept a full-time job and didn't give up on that job, never made it as a comic. I don't know one who kept the full-time job and then got to a certain point in time where they could retire from the job and then maintain the same level of comedy as their peers. No one did. But a lot of people didn't make it. [2:22:00] And they were funny. Yeah. But they just, they, it's so many layers. I guess every job is like this, but we just don't know from commenter. Well, that's just interesting talking to someone like you that I've known for so many years. I think I first met you 30 years ago. Yeah. So it's like we've known each other for so long. You need to think about how wild this ride where I was. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. It really is. And what's crazy with you're doing that, I think, is really interesting, is like, you're still doing stand up, but you've also decided to do these one-man shows. Right. And they're fucking amazing. Thanks. And are you, if you plan these, like, how do you, how do you, when you decide to make one, like the most recent one, like, how do you, do you set, do you have a theme in mind when you sit down, do you? Well, what happened with this thing I just did was, I had a theme in mind and it just wasn't going away. I wanted to, then I said, I said these psychiatrists, and I go, oh, that's my theme. I want to do it in front of psychiatrists. So then the theme, the show was built around psychology [2:23:07] and how we've cracked up as a society based on social media and everything else, two psychiatrists. So I'm performing to them, but they set the theme. They became, they made the theme exist by me thinking about performing for them. So when you first set out to write this set, you decided you were gonna do it in front of psychiatrists. No, I tried to do something else and it wasn't working. And then I was gonna, the theme was gonna be, I don't know what the theme was gonna be, like small talk at one point, then social media. And then I happened to accidentally do a show with four sort of psychiatrists who were in the audience together. So I go, I kept referencing back to them. Yeah. And then suddenly I was like, that's what I wanna do is show them for the psychiatrist. So how far into the creation of the set were you? I mean, probably 50%. Why? But it all connects to psychiatry because it's all psychologically. That's amazing. [2:24:00] That's amazing. And the ones you've done before, yeah, like- Goes the theme, yeah. And you do, like how do you do it? Do you sit down and just write it all out on a computer? Do you, no, I go out like the Constitution show is a perfect example. I went every night to the Creek and Cave in Long Island City and we're back, I directed it. So every night I go, because I was like, I wanted to show at the Constitution, because everybody loves the Constitution, on every side of every issue, everybody's like, Constitution is a great document. So I just wanted to do a whole show on the Constitution because I was like, yeah, why is it great? And so I just would work it out at Creep Cave all the time. Just in front of four people, seven people, we're back all day, 10 people. I never did it in front of more than 12 people probably. Wow. And eventually became the show, you know? So you just didn't announce it, you were doing it, you just kind of show up and do it. I announced it, people just didn't draw upward, but really? No way. [2:25:00] I've never been a giant draw. I'm really a comic, comic. If the whole world was comedians, I'd be the biggest, I'd be selling that statement. That's what I'm saying, dude, you're one of the best comics alive. You really are. But I'm only for comedians. I'm trying to talk to you and stay in tonight. I didn't really know that I needed a coaxie last night. I just didn't want to bother you. No, I was just being like, I was being the guy that's not your in trouble. Hey, I don't care if you're tired if you just ate you're going on stage now now I know the game. I didn't know game I thought you just wanted to hang out something I didn't want to bump people when I come to clubs a lot of times I just want to hang out. I just want to bump people. I don't know you do you know bumping I know but I thought Ron my was coming's see if I can change it. We'll change it. We'll got a guy maybe tough. We'll check Where you going again Seattle everybody's gonna see out. Yeah, yeah, they get three needles It's a good spot and if you get at the right time they might take over the whole CD block You get to be a part of that over they did again in Portland. Did they do it? Reset another one Portland. just did another one. They took over something. It's all over the news today. [2:26:05] Oh, didn't get the love that one place did. Would they call it again, Jamie? The zone. Oh, the chop chop? No. Yeah, something like that. Something zone. Shaf, chaff, chad, chad. Chaz, chaz. Yeah. CHA Z. Yeah, like Chas Bono. Yeah, that's what it was. It was like the Chas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's it Probably the club Autonomous The fucking mayor got on TV and said maybe it's a summer of love like okay, baby What and then they boom was either one a girl? The lady and then the guy from Portland was trying to join in and they bought yeah they lit his house on fire they fucking they said you have to resign every afternoon comedy yeah cuz he tried to go along with them and then he's like you know what this bullshit we need cops like yeah oh yeah oh now you know you didn't know before you need a cops you're the fucking mayor holy [2:27:02] shit holy shit Not good kids. Well, we'll see if I can change my flat. I'll come back and change your fucking like goddammit, Conquan. What's up, Boston? I got a practice. Well, there it is. 2024 cycle. Yeah. Yeah. This is amazing. Yeah. This is amazing. I love the set too. It's fucking perfect. Yeah. That's just, that's the, you know, those gigs they have their band. Yes. Oh man. You know, what is this on? Is this on Netflix? YouTube. YouTube. Beautiful. And it's out right now. Yeah. It says, what is it called? Colin Quinn. Our time is up. Our time is up. You know, therapists always go our time is up. Bam. Beautiful. Do you think there's a good name we should have called it? No, it was gonna call it a 50 minute hour. They say that about therapy too. No, some. This guy's a therapist, you believe it? Yeah, is that guy a therapist? He's got a whole therapist. Really? Yeah. What? I don't know why I have to blur out my sneakers. What For real who blurted you so that to right yeah, yeah, that's ridiculous [2:28:09] Oh, maybe it's the light is something makes it more weird to blur it out. That's weird Maybe it'd be good The fuck man, yeah, it is the light. It's still away the light is shining It's the light it's the way the light is shining on the light of the speaker. Oh, oh, it looks like it's blurred. Oh, it looks like it's blurred. It's just the box. Yeah, yeah. It's just the monitor. Oh, thanks. Well, I'll probably see you tonight. Oh, hopefully. Yeah. Please come. If you guys can do it, I'll do it. We'll make it Quinn. Okay. Beautiful. Thank you brother. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you very fun always bye