#2003 - Killer Mike

What's happening? What's up brother? I see my friend. It's always good to see you. I played your shit in the gym today It was awesome. Thank you. The the new shit is awesome. I love it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man Thank you. I um, I should tell you also you are the run the jewels playlist is the playlist We play at the club before the show gets started. I hype people up Thank you and that that is credit to Tony Hinchcliffe and this is years ago He said this to me goes run the jewels is the fucking best music to play before a show Thanks, does everybody gets hyped up? Yeah, you know And then it's just it's perfect. It's like a lot of energy carries you right into the show shots out my rap part in LP Who's like probably like chillin his home with his puppies right now. I love L2. He's a great guy He's talented as fuck to him and his wife Emma shots out to them and their dogs. Yeah, yeah, I um, man I don't even know what to say I'm just honored to that to be a part of that group and if run the jewels is like the X-Men I tell people this Michael album is the Logan origin story So the badass swagger and black motherfucker in the group you get a chance to see the true story of what right what what? You know what what became like how he became who is so you did this like you had a concept Created this well. Yeah, what happens is at nine years old. I just wanted to be a badass motherfucker rapper I just wanted nine years old not make my mother was 16 when she had me So you got to think about it disco and rap disco was fading out and rap was fading up So she that's what she was playing around me. She was playing like who Danny Curtis Blow Shit like that, you know, it was like it was like I liked it But they still dress like disco people they still dress like my mom's band You know I'm saying and did I get a chance to see run DMC and the fact first I saw the fat boys I'm like, oh shit like yeah, like I'm chubby. They're chubby. They're fresh and I saw run this it was over I'm like I'm in and I told my mom I never forget. I'm just like mom I want to be an MC and she had a joint. She was like Fuck it That's what we're doing So shots out the nice man, that's leaving amazing advice Obviously anybody nobody can deny that's amazing advice I have a theory that if a child is given the confidence to know that they're competent early enough. There's nothing they can accomplish That's absolutely true. And also children need to know and this is a very difficult thing to say, but it is true If someone out there is doing something you can do it. Don't let anybody tell you any different Yeah, someone out there is a musician if someone out there is an artist someone out There's a an author and people tell you it's too hard. Don't listen to those motherfuckers ever. It can be done It can be done. You know 100% can be done now. You got to figure out doing it I'm taking this jacket. I want to stay cool I've been I you want you want to I want to tell kids like you got to figure that part out My mom didn't buy me studio time. She didn't put me in she was just like motherfucker. You want to rap? She bring me from her friends rap, you know, but by the time I got 13 14 I figured out how to get in studios and stuff like that. My friends would take me and shit, you know I mean, so yeah, okay now I get my older homies would take me So now I got it, but you know, I just tell people like kids man Nick Jordan Peterson says something I um He said boys don't get to be but they don't learn because we're putting them in this box And we're saying learn and boys don't learn like that. They learn about being out and but I believe that with all kids But especially little boys you got to let their imaginations just go fucking crazy and my mom was good about that You know, that's amazing. So shots out to Denise. God bless the dead. Yes, sir Yeah, boys need exercise too. They need to run around but they're filled up with testosterone And they're little maniacs and they're turning to little men and they have new powers Yeah, I mean, you know when you're a 16 year old boy you six years ago, you couldn't fuck anybody up Yeah, how sudden you can fuck people up. This is like a whole new gift you got from the universe That's usually when your dad has a slam you on your back one time. Yeah to let you know, like grown man strength is still It's still a lot real. Yeah I got a picture of me and my high school principal Where is it? He was like a Joe Clark like figure in my life like dr. Hill if you're out there Well, I know you're out there. I know you're gonna end up watching but I love you. Oh, man There's a picture. I was 16. I never realized how much taller than him I was So that's me with my arm around him. Oh Wow, and all those little all those little guys around her So like that was the crew to posse it was like Alan temple posse like and I was wanted to be a little asshole Cuz I grew up in the houses. I wanted to fight and shit like that. And um, he he at some point Just decided that this kid is smarter than he's acting. So let's do this He'd come get me out of Spanish class out of his blades class He'd make me stand next to him at lunch and and eat my lunch. So pretty much everybody knew You know, he's the principal's guy now don't don't go fucking around So how my homies that were just on the bullshit in school We're just kind of like we gonna we'll see you after school and it really helped change my Direction in terms of where I wanted to go and what I wanted to do. So shots out the doctor That's amazing that he knew to do that That's the value of a really good educator as opposed to someone who's just doing that job So when it really looks at a kid and goes I think I can steer this young person in an amazing direction Man, oh man, I'll never forget. He brought me into his office and he said, you know, he said, you know, Michael I'll never be a doctor or a lawyer in the sense of a medical doctor lawyer engineer all these things But it really touched me he said but I'm going to be all those things through you and the students And when I tell you that man that high school was a national school It had only had two principals at the time dr. Butts before him was my mother's principal at the same school and then later me now Since the principal they've had multiple principals in the school is kind of fallen But they got a great principal over there now a female principal who I know me and ti are very involved in Helping the school kind of return to glory, but that man changed a lot of He put a lot of people through that school 1995 NCAA champion Cameron dollar his dad was a coach there He went on the UCLA when the NCAA championship chief judge Asha Jackson, you know He'd um Dean of Technology at Georgia Tech Rahim Bia all these people Encouraged this man and he put a lot into us. That's incredible Yeah, people like that are so valuable in a kid's life because just one different perspective one different You don't realize even when you're saying it, I guess probably that the kids gonna have it that way Yeah, I had one science teacher that was really good Yeah, and he was an interesting guy like Vietnam vet and yeah kind of hard-nosed sort of dude and this was a bad That was Dr. Hill. Yeah, I was in Jamaica Plain, which was it's kind of a gentrified now But back then it was a very low income area outside of Boston Gotcha and so the school was rough like we had 17 year old kids that would show up the first days of school because they had been back something I was 13 and so those kids had failed four years and around there still like let me try one. Yeah We had some 21 year old graduating seniors So there was that kind of shit right and this this guy Sat in front of the class and he said if you ever really want to hurt your brain He goes go outside at night and look up and realize there's no end to that and you take that for granted And you think about it You know, you're just kind of just accept that space is above you But you don't really think that that goes on forever think about what infinity is Yeah, that there's no end to that and I remember being in that class being 13 years old alone. Holy shit Yeah, nobody ever said that before. Yeah, and I've been obsessed with it ever since yeah I definitely feel you like you you and you like I had a lot of great teachers in summer still my teachers mr Murray who was an art teacher but now teaches his former students to grow their own food and he makes you come out to his yard and Plant and pick when his pick and season like but he was one of the first people that kind of pushed me to think past Whatever your limits were but in terms of science, man, Miss Wilder When what she helped us understood how vast the universe is her and miss Smith you said you'd be like, oh shit Like though like when you think about an ant or a net in comparison to how big you're looking at them It's that times infinity when you start seeing yourself as man I'm really small because human beings kind of think myself is yeah only and having everything but once you it humbles you To understand that you're just a speck. How do you balance that out though with the braggadocious style of hip hop wrapped it? I mean you want to be a man? Motherfucker, man, you know you you want to you want to let the world know I was here, you know, right Right, and I think people love that. Yeah, that's the thing too. Even people that it's like that's the beauty of art, right? because even people that are on that path of humbleness and Recognizing that we really are just a very small part of this insanely huge thing Yeah, they still love some good hip hop man is still love it hip hop is like I told people about Michael, right? So Michael is a story of this nine-year-old working class black kids Life on in a black enclave in Atlanta. My whole world was black. So I was never not confident I never worried I would be held down because all my heroes and villains look like me But I tell people once you get past the fact that I'm black really It's just a story of a working-class kid in America who just lives totally amongst the people he looks like so Working-class people I think we need just that sometimes you know, I'm people people loved of community Yes, that's that's a giant part of being a human being and most people today, you know Especially people that live in cities where you're stacked in apartment buildings. They don't have our traditional sense of community. They don't unfortunately It's I don't think it's good. I think it's I think it's real bad for us It's scary that that's the only thing that scares me I think about the net is that we get so caught up in Whatever we think behind this and just anonymously talking to people Yeah that we never have to disagree with people across the table and then after the disagreements still remain comrades allies Community members and I I think we should get back I've been advising people like on political shit to just ignore the national soap opera Who's gonna be the next president and focus on the very very small thing of what are my neighbors to my right and left? Thinking about and get 10 and 12 people 15 people in the living room and discuss your street. Yes versus Discussing world affairs. Yes and have that spread out. Yeah, but you have to keep an eye on the criminals You don't keep an eye on the criminals then that that's what I always wonder about like when they have like a UFO report When they're saying well, we've recovered crashed UFOs like really or are you in the middle of some crazy? Multi-billion dollar scheme what that I need to know about well, we know about the criminals We still don't do shit about it, right? So that's why I'm saying like on a hyper local level, you know, yeah, you know, I got some crazy theories but on a hyper local level You could just kill them and let the hogs eat them, you know Yeah, yeah If you know who's molesting and raping kids in your community and you know where a hog farm is you can fix that problem Yes, you know and that goes all the way up to the top and I remember landing in London years ago Hearing about the radio DJ there that had um That had just been absolutely atrocious in his lifetime and they brought out the paperwork that said he was actually building children hospitals with oh That's not TV guy. Mm-hmm. What is it? Jimmy Saville Jimmy Saville? Yeah, and there was a woman in parliament there as you did right? It looks cut up and freaky It's terrifying, but there was a woman in Parliament that had promised to bring the other people to justice Nobody's ever been brought to justice and before we get to judgmental and point, you know Only a couple people got brought to justice with Epstein not really Exactly. No really the only people were the two people that were involved exact traffic. Yes, but but as opposed to Lee as the public We've never said where's the fucking list. Oh fucking so when I say local is you know, you might can't you know If we wanted to do something we could but for whatever reason we're like elephants in a circus We could destroy the whole tent and somehow we've been trying not to so the thing for me It comes down to where's the hog farm and how local can you keep it? Yeah, that's it. Where's the hog farmer? Yeah, maybe start farming your own. Oh, yeah Joe and I were just having a conversation about how hogs that actually eat human beings and oh, yeah So, you know, I'm just I'm just gonna say if you if you know a good hog farmer and you know some evil people Make sure they meet one another yeah, that's in the movie snatch. Yeah that English dude. I love that guy Hence the term greedy as a pig Yeah, those motherfuckers eat people all the time people like have heart attacks and fall down and the pigs just consume them Yeah, I was telling Joe about my cousin quick who went on a hog hog hunt and the hog decided didn't want to get eight They turned on him. He ran him up a tree had to shoot the hog from the tree to kill it But yeah, if people don't have a firearm on them and they bow hunt them. I've seen them get rushed Yeah, they'll slice you up to them and they run past you with those tusks and pigs are like pigs ain't stupid They know how to fight back. I'm seeing whales fighting like that work. Yeah, or cuz I've always admired They've always been my favorite. Well, yeah, because they like if you watch them they live in family pods I watched them like chase a seal until I could I show and teach the young ones they they they Move it so the seal comes down and then they stop and let the seal clap So the steel things that have the chance but they're teaching the young ones to hunt and I say there's only a matter of time But before they say yo fucking imagine if they found out about SeaWorld Exactly. Imagine if they had phones and they could call from Marine land and we don't know if they have it You know because we know, you know, we know we don't know what you know, they can communicate in terms of sound waves We can't hear we don't really know what they know But if whales are there attacking boats Somebody's made a cell call Somebody's if it the only way that it makes sense that that would make sense is if there's somehow or another there was like I don't know where SeaWorld is in San Diego, but if it's close enough to the ocean Where their sounds could get out Yeah, I mean who knows what they can say because we don't even understand their language We know they communicate and we know they understand parts of ours. Yeah Do you read anything about John Lilly? No, it was a fascinating story John Lilly is the guy who created that sensory deprivation tank that I showed you earlier John Lee Lilly was also a pioneer in interspecies communication Okay, he was a legitimate scientist and he would take acid and try to communicate with dolphins And one of the things that he did this guy was out there Lily was out there fascinating guy We're trying to talk to my poodle at home Well, it's like you are kind of talking to him though They kind of know when you're happy when you're loving them and they can yeah, they know there's something going on there, right? But uh, so Lily funded this study They was or directed this study where they had this house and half of the house was filled with water Got so the dolphin would live with the researcher And so the researcher the woman who is a researcher was trying to get this dolphin to speak Human language and it can't because doesn't have lips. Gotcha And so it was a failed experiment, but in order to get the dolphin to pay attention. She had to jerk them off Cuz dolphins are so horny. They're like, I don't want to give a fuck about it. Hi I'm like a man. Yes. All right, cuz my lord knows after I get pussy I'm more willing to listen to whatever she got to say like yeah, your boss is a fucking asshole. Thanks for the blowjob In all the animal kingdom, I'm sure there's an imperative to breed. Yeah, that's how the species survives Yeah, and dolphins they live in this world of sharks I bet they have a crazy need to breed there were probably horny all the time And so they found this got out and you know the Puritan instincts of these people that didn't understand science They didn't they decided that we're gonna put a stop to this. This is inappropriate Instead of saying well, it's it's actually like some sort of bodily maintenance It's also inappropriate that you have a dolphin in a fucking house. That's half filled with water That's way more inappropriate than jerking off the dolphin Jerking off the dolphin is the only nice part about that the rest of it. You have a prisoner for no reason No reason and it might be as smart as you we don't even know we have they have a cerebral cortex It's 40% larger than a human beings We don't know what kind of intelligence they have. We know they saved human beings You know, they we we know they jumped on that lady on YouTube and Humper that so we they know that too They obviously are thinking they fight off sharks. Yeah keep sharks away from people sometimes Yeah, and orcas actually kill shark. Yes Roll a great whites and turtles motherfuckers upside down and they go right for the liver Yeah, I was saying to eat their liver. So the liver really is healthy like Finally taking his penis in my hand letting him jam himself against me eyes closed body shaking Then his penis would relax and withdraw right she jerked him off. That sounds like well, I didn't really jerk him off I like kept my hand there and he just sort of fucked my hand, but I kept my eyes closed and I hated it I let him hunch me listen. She probably had an intimate relationship with this white people are amazing Yeah, you got that That guy though see what he looked like he was a real freak Duncan told me and I know I need to know if this is true because Duncan just brought this up in the green room Yeah, okay, John Lilly at the end of his life was he had done so much drugs He would take ketamine into muscular inter muscular ketamine and get in the isolation tank He made it acid he did everything but at the end of his life apparently he had a party over his house He'd gotten a boob job. So he gave himself fake breasts and he was watching porn in front of all of the guests of the party and jerking off in front of everybody and There was like what the fuck are you doing? He was that gone. I need to know if that's true This is a report one Duncan was describing it the other day in the green room and he's always right I'm sure he found a nice book where this anecdote that's even iller than your guy who Johnny debt plate Who is your guy Johnny debt plate who would like live with the Hells Angels for a while and did drugs that was awesome Oh fear and loathing. Yeah, yes Thompson. Yeah, that's even harder than hunter as Thompson. I thought he had an adventurous life shit Yeah, well, I need a fun of it's real He think well He was just he was a psychedelic pioneer who was also an academic and he was exploring these drugs in a very hardcore way and Ketamine in particular. I think what does ketamine do to you? Ketamine is an it's like very closely related to PCP believe it or not. Okay, but it also has therapeutic Applications like they use it for therapy people take ketamine and they They go through like guided therapy sessions It's very common and it's it's prescribed so you can it's like legal to have a ketamine session What do you think about the was a high wasa ayahuasca? So high wasca mom shots out love and respect I just want an Emmy. I just wanted an Emmy. Thank you was I'm Scott Carter who Scott was one of the co-founders of real-time with Bill Marlin So shots out to the OG SCX guy Carter, but um, he was telling me about the high wasca and he had done it Yeah, I know I was right. He was telling me about that. Well, I'm speaking ebonics my bag But my wife just said she just said to me hey I want to do that and I was like I Don't but I'm with you. I'll go I go sit with a shaman I'll smoke weed while you fucking go go through your head and I hallucinate I think all legitimate psychedelics under guided circumstances With the right person doing it if you are of sound mind. Yeah, you can get some out of it See I got a darn is some people are not of sound mind Yeah, I don't think she has sound mind But if she wants to do it, I'm gonna let her go for it But make your whatever the fuck is wrong with her to my mind is fucked up Like I know I got dark shit buried so I don't I don't necessarily you know, like I want to slow weed If I'm not in a good mood, right, you know, I mean, I don't like doing anything I don't drink I drink whiskey a few times a year like a but yeah, man I get my imagination is crazy. So I'm just like I wouldn't really want to see what's causing all this shit Just thinking you know, I think that's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it It might let you see it through fresh eyes doesn't relax. Yes a history of schizophrenia my family. Mmm Manic depression shit. That's another reason I'm just gonna like maybe I don't want to open all those doors Well, that's a good point actually because there's some evidence that especially like high dose edible weed Yeah that it can trigger schizophrenia. I've heard that and young men in particular Yeah, it's somewhere around like 25 or something like that. Yeah, it starts popping off for a lot of guys my doctor told me to stick to the um Told me to stick to the flower and I think mostly just because he's like you're fat How much calories are in a 250 milligram Can't be a lot shots out to Danny Brown who lives out here Yeah, Danny Danny gave me the most powerful L. I've ever had I that sounds right Yeah, Danny gave me some shit me and L ain't in Europe, but I'm just like oh like yeah I'm not fucking with Danny Danny's Danny's got Richard Pryor tolerance That is a funny dude. He is a good smart guy. I get him to do stand-up I wanted him to do five minutes at one of my shows because he wants to do stand-ups thinking about doing I'm like you're perfect for stand-up don't have comedian friends out there people because the minute you say to them that you want to do stand-up They're gonna make you do it Ryan Davis. Who's an amazingly brilliant? Comedian out of Charlotte Ryan is basically just like my brother now Ryan is like hey I Told him I say man. I think I could do it. I want to do it. He said he said you come to my fucking show I'm making you get on stage and I'm like God bullshit, so I go to show motherfucker makes me get on stage I do I do I think maybe nine maybe eleven minutes. I said what you think you say you were good You should have did seven minutes. You'd have been great. You know I mean, so I've done it I've done it once I haven't done you know like my friend T. I'd actually you know we just plucked you plush myself into it But I want to do it. I like common you can tell a lot more truth You definitely can and you definitely you definitely could do it, and you would figure it out pretty easy Yeah, it's you already doing it kind of because you say funny stories all the time It's just like a sharper more edited version of that and you would figure out how to do it with reps Yeah, yeah, you do it. I'm a fuck around you should fuck around. I'm a fucker Yeah, you should fuck around it gives you an opportunity to mock things in a different way, too I'm like really stupid shit like you could really pick it apart on stage Yeah, I found out that all the shit. I wanted to say to Shay I got away with on stage that I never got away with in the kitchen. Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, I actually got to call her bitch on stage shit that never works in the kitchen In the kitchen she would have fucking stabbed me So that's out you could tell when a relationship with a comic and they're a significant other is going bad With the kind of jokes they're doing on stage because they're gonna happen those conversations that they would never have in real life In real life. They're all quiet Unstage like bitch yeah Yeah, it's funny. You could you could really see it. I'm a try it I like I like the fact I like comedians if I as I've grown to know more of the community You guys are amazing you're amazing tight-knit community, too It's very tight-knit community didn't always used to be that case really the internet opened it up the internet changed it because Before there was like a supply-and-demand thing gotcha There was a lot of haters a lot of people when some person would make it they would get angry They'd be upset at that what that it wasn't them because if you were a comic in the like to say the 1980s or 90s if you got a sitcom that was a role that I couldn't get if you got a Host of a show that was a show I could have hosted yeah You know and and so everybody was on this famine mentality rappers rappers used to have that Comparison is the thief of joy. Yeah, and I quote you can't yeah, you can't do that I remember I felt a tangent envy for a half second once and I checked myself It's not don't fucking do that don't give in the don't do that because that'll that'll that'll defeat the rest of your life Cuz no matter how much you achieve Someone is always gonna be doing something different or better or something you perceive is better and what you wanted to do And if you don't do the self-check you'll never get your blessings I'm 20 years into a career and I have come out with what people are calling arguably Oh my name arguably this is the best I would like my wife call me Friday. Well, she was with me. She said Happy resurrection day. This is you. This is the start of your next life This this album because you've never done an album like this is personal That's that's a heavy statement. Yeah happy resurrection day. Yeah, beautiful Yeah, cuz but if I would have been sitting around Thinking about what didn't happen 20 years ago, right? You didn't you know, I would have I would have never gotten to run the jewels which happened 10 years ago It's a 10 year anniversary. We think about this 10 years ago me and Ellen are mid fucking 30s We meet through Jason DeMarco from fucking Cartoon Network. We do my album, you know rap music, which is 11 years ago Then we do run the jewels we out going on tour for the last decade My whole life has been a blessing simply because I didn't say damn. Why didn't it work for me solo? I was just like this is what it's supposed to be. Yeah, you know, you gotta you gotta know that that that whatever it is Internal has it with the divine thing that's in you has a purpose and a plan for you And if you if you look at other people's plan and purpose you're gonna fuck up your own If you think why not me you're gonna fuck up your all. It's also it's an inefficient way of using fuel. Yeah, because Those same people that are killing it if they make you feel bad like that that envy that you have that does zero for you but with the same experience of seeing someone kill it if you get inspired and choose to work harder and realize that there's other levels and and Appreciate their work really appreciate it because it's very hard for artists Especially when they're struggling and they're coming up to appreciate other artists work Yeah, I'm pretty you got to be able to say goddamn. That was good and you should say it to them Yeah, you have to say it to them. Absolutely. You have to be yes, it's like man It's nothing like steel sharpening steel. Yes, like I can't I can't be no whack rapper. My friends are too good You know I'm saying I'm friends with fucking T. I GZ. Yeah, the big boy Dre like I'm friends with fucking, you know My man my man, I'm sorry I'm just a little star right now But we just talking about a comedy when you got like Danny Brown as a home Yeah, Danny will fucking go on stage make people laugh come out and write a 64 bar bursts. It's just like yeah, man I got to do it You got to invite better people into your life people that are better than you Yeah, like you could tell I tell people all the time Kobe Bryant was my absolute favorite Ball basketball player and people sometimes misinterpret. I'm saying he's better than Jordan I said it's not what I'm saying But what I'm saying is it's one thing to look at a guy like a god Michael Jordan's a god Most people just want to worship the god do the best they can Kobe knew I'll be impossible, but I'm gonna try to defeat the god I'm gonna try to it when you get that mentality you can't lose you even if you never achieved the god status Because you've tried therefore you become Hercules. Yeah, like Hercules can be Zeus, but fuck it. He had to try Mmm, yeah, that's it Yeah, and knowing that someone like Jordan out there though Like when someone comes along every now and then in any sport someone comes along it just elevates the level of performance to this extreme Extent where everybody has to recognize. Oh, you're in the Mike Tyson era You know before Mike Tyson people have to understand what was going on with the heavyweight division It was dying it was it was not good and you had that everyone was sad because Muhammad Ali got beat up by Larry Holmes Yeah, and then nobody gave ever ever gave Larry Holmes is just to Larry Holmes was a wicked boxer Yeah, he was wicked. He had one of the best jabs of all time, but he was killing a legend, but he killed it Yeah, that's what people were they liked him a little when he beat up Jerry Cooney And then they liked him a little when they came back to fight Tyson and tight. He fucked Yeah, they found out he found out that was Tyson when he was Tyson In his young 20s when he was just unstoppable unstoppable He knocked out Larry Holmes. It was like what am I even? Larry Holmes laid out is it real and he said he did it in part because of the Ali thing He was he was he was still angry that Larry had Pete. Look didn't he say that Larry? I think Ali was in his corner Oh shit. Yeah, I think Ali said something to Mike in the corner before the fight I see if that's true. I'm pretty sure that's true Mike Ali was there Mike is one of the wisest warriors, too Like I got people I don't know if this if it's because of the list or what people tend to They try to qualify Mike is not as intelligent or they used to but his wisdom his Simplicity of the wisdom that he implies to especially young men I think is is valuable beyond measure when Mike beyond measure. Yeah, and also you know, yeah See some molly was in the ring with him. I Mean that right there is heavy. That right there is very heavy Only probably told Larry my boy gonna fuck you up. Fuck him up. I like gotcha Can imagine the inspiration when the greatest of all time? Comes up to you and you're in your young 20s and he wants you to fuck this guy up for him and you can It's all and you can because this is Mike Tyson back then it's all bro Look at Larry and Larry probably need want to be that at night. Well, he did though. That's the thing He did Larry asked for this fight Larry came back At the time probably yeah I don't think he got the big paydays that he deserved because I just don't think people liked him And it was just a hundred percent because the Ali thing if there was no Ali if he can't if he beat the guy Who beat Ali instead of beating Ali he would be another huge? Applauded heavyweight publicly, but he is in boxing circles at least yeah, like people know boxing appreciate Larry Holmes He was awesome, but goddamn this fight this fight was Mike when he just moved different than anybody ever Anybody it was like Jack Dempsey times a hundred, you know I'm saying It's like what he did with like the bobbing and weaving and the way we closed the distance It was very unusual and you look at this. You can't really prepare for all that movement Who the fucking move like that gusta model knew these handy that kid custom model found him when he was just 13 years old man and you know There's the first thing that he ever did that gave him like real joy and people loved him and people applauded him instead of hated him But goddamn dude, he was so scary back then that hook from a partner is something that Mike just nasty hook to the rib cage I mean he just kept coming at you man kept coming at you But the second round was where Larry started to get his jab off and it was very interesting because you realized how I mean this was Larry You know, I don't remember what year this is maybe 90 or something like that. He's 38 years old 88. Okay Yeah, he's 38 years old at the time and he's also you know, no steroids back then They have anything like there's you didn't have peptides Guys didn't really know how to recover like they know how to recover now when you're that age you were kind of done Yeah, he was had more soft soft around the midsection. You could see he just doesn't look like Larry Holmes when he was in his prime But that jazz still fired off That left jab, so he gets loose somewhere in in the round and it drops his hands and starts look at that that right hand They just planted on dude. Larry Holmes was so legit. This is just too late for him Yeah, just too late for him to be having this fight. I Look Trump laugh. Yeah, that's funny. So now this is it when he starts getting loose with his jab now Oh, no, that's the chaos on what would you have before that? Okay, so the third round or the fourth round yeah, this is it right there. So this is it. This is it right here Look at look how loose he gets with that jab He started getting loose and swinging his jab left and right. Look at that popping it out there. Look at that. Yeah Dude, Larry Holmes was a bad motherfucker. They just didn't fight in their primes. Yeah, they might was in his fucking prime Yeah, and you know even then even in their primes Mike would have probably got him Mike was special he was it was different a lot of times because of the Duck and involved and weaving you were only hitting the top of Mike's shoulders Oh, yeah, you weren't hitting you weren't getting clean shots of the ears of the chin and he could take it That was the other thing about my built like a bulldog to his chin was insane And his neck was insane because it's one of the reasons why a guy gets knocked out is the head rotates Yeah, and you can protect that with neck exercises. Yeah, so Mike was one of the first boxers eating pussy counters It yes a little bit. I showed up So if you get caught you know your wife just tell her you're training. Yeah, put like a weight vest on your head Yeah, yeah get it. Yeah, boom. Oh You bet this point Larry's ready to go he's all right, let's try to go he's in trouble. Oh My goodness. Oh That right hand. Oh that left. Larry is still up. Oh, oh, this is the end This is the end then the right hook right after this boom right there Yeah That is yeah, Larry's like fuck that it's been a day. It was just crazy to watch him get knocked out It's a temple shot too and he had fought so many big hitters before this early in his prime He fought Ernie Shaver's who many people say was the greatest puncher Was shavers as fast as Mike in this time? Cuz that like did you know big hitters if you watch him a lot of them work with motherfuckers, but Mike was fast fast Yeah, and big hits coming fast. Yeah hurt a lot You don't have the seconds to count step back and recover, right? Like I don't think Mike had the one punch knockout power that George Foreman had But I think he had speed like a middleweight. Yeah, that's what was crazy. Yeah, he was just swarming Yeah, so this is a shave. Yeah, and shavers was a bomber that dude had just wild power He wasn't the best boxer But he was a very good boxer, but it's fucking knockout power was tremendous And it's bought power is weird because if you look at the two of them, oh look at that knockdown. I Mean, that's how hard shavers hit check this out, dude. I mean, this is boom I mean my goodness, so Larry Holmes had a crazy chin The fact that he survived that back then and he couldn't survive Mike. Yeah, but it's also 38 years old like for fighters. They don't want to believe it's over and it's over the year you got like nine good years like a world-class fighter for the most like an average of not some guys can stretch it out to 1520 years some guys are it's amazing Like Jim Miller just had I think he first fought in the UFC in 2005 Hopkins was was was mean Bernard Hopkins Oh, he was the best at that. Yeah, because he was so technical. Yeah Well, that's why you when you see him fight Roy the first time Roy beats him with just pure speed and athleticism just freak of nature that no one ever seen before and Hopkins Wasn't quite at the level Hopkins eventually became yeah, then then they fought a second time when they were older Hopkins decisioned him pretty easily. Yeah, and it was a different thing because Hopkins had perfect defense. Yeah, everything was perfect There was no like necessary unnecessary like speed movements or anything. Everything was very tight and Tightened discipline. So what do you what do you think ultimately is it for fighters? I mean name not not just entering fights just for fighting Do you think being controlled and disciplined is better or just being crazy talented with speed about I think The most important thing is technique that's above and beyond everything because someone with very good technique will beat someone with freak Athleticism if they they don't have good technique, they'll leave holes. They'll get caught Yeah, technique is everything but if you have freak athleticism and technique Then you have a Michael Jordan like there's there's every now and then a John Jones comes along every now and then that could be Nirma Gometov comes along. Yeah that has insane technique and freak like physical abilities and just super human discipline That's the most important. I think I realized Michael Jordan's secret watching I don't know if it was just a show about him or his documentary But they show where his brother showed up for practice And was just fucking around playing playing with the team his brothers much shorter than him But that fade away jumper his brother Wow The the quickness in the movie his brother and you could tell his brother had to adjust his game because he's probably playing shorter dudes So he couldn't just shoot a jumper. He had to do a fade away. It looks like to me. Mike took his brother's techniques And at his height and his and his and his because you could tell he studied him that mike's game developed I want to act like when I meet him that's so that's it. You see that? Did you just see that shit? How many times you say might do that to another player watch this? Wow, wow, colby took that same technique and punish motherfuckers with look at larry I didn't know. Oh, Larry slams like dominique. Wow Damn that's his fucking brother. That's a great sparring partner. That's a great spot. Yeah And you know your big brother talk shit to you the whole run. Yes Yes, yeah Well, the youngest guys are usually the toughest in the family of boys they get beat up the most I got hung on doors with the kid I got locked in fucking closets and shit. My my uncles and cousins just had a bunch of fun Yeah, there's a bunch of mma fighters that had older brothers that beat them up. Just peek the shit out And then they're like fuck you. Yeah, they learned how to fight and then they're not scared of fighting because they fought every day of their life Yeah, and that's that's a beautiful. I gotta My daughter mike is 16 this year. I told her her sister and her I said we're gonna take some boxing class This is summer. Oh, I was like total your strong's a bull. You've won a few fights I don't want you just fighting because so fuck it. You know, I'll have peed during the summer So we're gonna take some boxing classes. That's a good exercise. It's good to release stress, too. Yeah, that's what I've worried with her I'm just like yeah, I just don't want to get a call. You've beaten somebody fuck Well kids get aggressive. Yeah, and if they don't have control of that it's not good Well, she grew up with all boys. So that's not to have control. Just that's how boys solve problems, right? Yeah, you get mad. She's going to backyard beat the shit out of each other then you're playing again So she grew up with her big brothers and a cousin. So She never got acclimated to the we're just gonna fuss about this and talk. She's just like fuck it bitch. It's on That's great until somebody shoots somebody yeah god bless the problem but with that with that with that said I think that um, I think you know We should probably be the people who are gun owners and shooters just go out as a family take a shooting day the olympic um skeet shooting thing is right around the corner from um From a place that I own some buildings and stuff and I said, man, we got to go out and check that out I've never checked it out. I've never skeet shot before so it's uh, I think Firearm safety is like the most important thing. It is important and bleed classes shots out the dock down in atlanta Former army guys the black guy. So there's a place called there's a guys called the black packers of an atlanta shots out to my man coda And um king general down there they were in a bar met talking just about what blacks needed for survival skills It's just skills that were kind of being lost with the old south kind of dying out So they put together a hiking club gun club that type stuff shots out to the um, you know The um bash reeves gun club and naga. Um But they they introduced bleeding classes So before you even learn how to you know proficiently shoot they're like you need to learn how to stop In case of an accident, which I thought was just brilliant So part of their learning gun culture is learning how to save yourself in case you accidentally shoot yourself with someone else Don't you guys look up the black packers? Mm, you know and and join them, you know people should join, you know Where i'm from talking to people where i'm from join the bash reeves gun club join naga Get some experience. So, you know, just let the news tell you what to do. Yeah, get outside walk around shoot shit Yeah, that's very good advice. Yep Yeah during the pandemic I think hunting went up radically because people started thinking like wait a minute like food isn't guaranteed No, like I should probably at least know how to do this. Yeah, you don't want to figure that out while your family's hungry I got a call from dj swiff outcast dj cut master swith And there's an old man that lives on the corner of the main street that leaves his subdivision Old man has a beautiful garden and shit and We didn't we knew the old man, you know ate deer and shit But we didn't know that he was actively dressing animals in his yard But he called swiff like I got a deer over here I don't know if deer got hidden or someone had shot and couldn't and it got in this yard He just couldn't find it but swiff is like man. I'm out here with the old man. We fucking cutting the deer He's gun hit right here and i'm like what the fuck? So shots out to swiff in the og man, you know still going this is in the city of atlanta. Oh, wow I had this uh gardener who was really cool He was from mexico and he would cut he was actually a gardener when I bought the house And I just the guy said hey, he's a great gardener. And so I hired him too. Yeah, and uh Jose would go back and forth to mexico like he would say I'd go when you coming back He's like, well, you know I gotta make my way across, you know, so we'll see oh shit It's like i'm like, I don't even know what that means. But okay, so does he disappear? Oh, you just pop back up though. Sometimes he would he was a fast-handed guy. Okay, he would fight chickens and uh They had like, you know 100 roosters in this dude's backyard and they would they had like the whole pit and they would gamble and And they were doing one of these things and they cooked a goat. They killed a goat. Yeah cooked it Yeah, and the health department came after him because the neighbors are complaining why that they butchered an animal On their on their land on their on their their yard. But what are you supposed to do? Exactly. And he was so confused And for him, it was like he was so confused. Yeah, he was like, but I did it all right there. It's all clean Yeah, I know I know the animal wasn't sick. Yeah, like it's okay to buy me but it's not okay to do it Yeah, that doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense I um, but I think it's a visual thing. I think like maybe the neighbors they should have closed their fucking curtains Yeah, I was there's a famous clip of me. I think on dr. Boyce Watkins one of his son um, he has his conferences for black people to get better empowered and stuff and uh, there was a Lawyer who I have respect for he's done some good stuff, but he was essentially just telling people to kind of Push back against the police and i'm just like, you know if you're a 15 year old boy Um, your mission is to make it home So you just even if you get arrested shut the fuck up to your parents come to get you But don't don't do not push back against cops. That's not the thing to do Unless it's time for the revolution for real. Everybody's gotten the notes. This is the day it goes down And um, you know people are counting because it feels good to kind of hear the rhetoric But i'm just like yo, how many of you guys I live in this neighborhood I've lived in this neighborhood all my life. How many of you guys actually like have a garden? Right, I mean if you say how many people fish or hunt or not address and kill your food and they got less than less hands I'll say y'all ain't ready to revolt shit like no disrespect anybody a few people got upset But i'm like yo you the the most revolutionary thing you can do is grow a tomato And some greens become selfish becomes self because that way you don't need Government or any or grocery stores anything, you know, and i'm just like yo, there's one house in a neighborhood that every say Two out of every five houses used to have gardens and literally chickens in the back There's one house in this one neighborhood that I see this man and woman. They run their yard every day meaning they get out Running job. They have at least eight goats that i've counted Numerous chickens and shit and my wife and I drive down that street just to remind ourselves motherfucker if it ever goes down These are the people you want to knock on the door say. Hey, you know, I mean We like to join up with you know, i'm saying in every and whatever way because they're really ready You know what I mean? They're really ready. So well, that's what most people should strive for You should strive for water from a well. Yeah, you should strive for some sort of an off-grid electricity system If shit goes down Like if you have a generator at your house if the power goes off the generator can kick on turns your fucking house back on Yeah, man, that's a good thing to have very good thing to have Yeah, very good thing to have it's it's a game changer especially in the summer Yeah, but there's a lot of other things like you should learn how to grow food You should learn how to cook you should learn how to make fires You should learn how to you know, black pack and fish. Tell me I follow the black packers You guys go to instagram. They they're regular folks that were just regular folks that taught themselves my My sister who grows the garden levy. I never would she was the wild when she liked going to the clubs and drinking this shit When she was young, I never thought she'd be the one that ended up like my grandmother because my grandmother grew food, right? But i'm just like yo, man These skills if you got them you got them no one can take them from you and you know where your food is coming from Yeah, if you're growing all your own vegetables in your garden If you're all your chickens that you eat, you know what they ate because you fed it to them I mean if you're you're eating like that, that's way better for you If you're slaughtering your own cattle, if you make deals with the neighbors, I'd give you a quarter or you give me some corn We'll work out together Like that's what people used to do. That's a normal thing and there's still things out there like that Like there's a west georgia farmers. I know i'm saying it rome is a west georgia Former's collective. I want to tell people out there. My focus is hyper local So if I say shit, you don't agree with that's fine. If you're not in atlanta or georgia or alabama or some shit I don't give a fuck but there's a There's a west georgia farmer's collapse where you can essentially get your food and your cows and stuff from them It can be that local you don't have to wonder whether chickens and cows and stuff are coming from well, where's um, where is uh The will harris farms where white oak pastures that's in georgia as well, right? How close is that to atlanta? I had this dude on i watched him talk on television. They were they asking him a question about bill gates They were asking about what's it, you know, is it bad that bill gates is acquiring all this farmland? One of fox news. Uh, yeah, and so They brought him on and he talks very slow and deliberate. Yeah He's a regenerative farmer and they just the the news people are like you got to hug and pick this up Yeah, so I was like I got to have this guy on and it was one of the most fascinating conversations I ever had Oh wow, oh so that's pretty far from left way up. That's what it's called. I think how far is that from atlanta like a drive I'm sure Which alabama was how it goes? Oh, yeah, that's not I mean, it's about halfway in between but yeah Dalton is it easy enough to get dolton is where I worked my first ufc. Yeah, that's why it sticks in dolton alabama That's when the ufc was still on the chitlin circuit. Yeah, the ufc we saw flying in propeller planes I looked at some of those old ufc fights man when it used to be like total mitchvats like a fucking sumu versus a midget Damn, there's yeah, i'm sorry little person that shit would be yeah, that's right. You gotta say little person now Yeah, you gotta catch it up. I'm learning. I'm learning this but this uh disrespect me to all my short folks out there um What the fuck was I just gonna say We were talking about ufc propellers flying in chitlin circuit. Oh, no white oak pastures white oak pastures Okay, if you can get your food from that guy i'll reach out if you guys got another yeah Yeah, yeah, there's I think they sell in all supermarkets and shit It's got a giant regenerative farm and what they do is like They just rotate where everything goes, you know the cattle they shit. They eat the grass The shit is my great grandmother talking that they know it works My great grandmother talked to me about they only grow certain things for a certain amount of time And then they move and that plot of land would be something else and then so yeah She talked I was a little kid. So I didn't really quite understand the concept, but if I got an older, I'm like, oh I get it Well, what he said is that you're recreating nature in a controlled environment. Yeah, that's kind of i'm paraphrasing But I think that's what he's saying It's like this is how it was supposed to go chickens eggs are supposed to be dark orange Yes, like that almost blood red orange because it's healthier. It's filled with more nutrients because they're out there eating bugs Yeah, I remember my friends eggs aren't white They're thinking I was bullshitting without because I went to we used to get something like the tuskegee And the chickens out of your great grandma's farm They weren't they weren't white and he's like they you'd have to come back and tell kids like no eggs aren't aren't white Yeah, they're not white that pale yellow of most eggs. Yeah chicken. It's malnourished probably And you watch a dark orange one man. That's what even the yolk is It's more orange in it. They taste different. But yeah, yeah, we got it chickens are ruthless motherfuckers, man man, when you hear people say chickens fighting like Man, you if you ever like in the deep south similar to the place in mexico cock fights still exist Not that i've been any for federal agents out there But um when you're young you get to see roosters and chickens fight if you go on a farm You get to see those motherfuckers go they they're nasty and they don't play and they don't come at kids You know, I mean they don't they don't give a shit They'll go for it and you know, it gets crazy when humans get it because they put razors on their fucking Yeah, shit, and it gets ugly but just to watch too it mail anything in nature extends to To at some point need to prove itself to another male, but it's interesting watching You always think of chickens. It's kind of chilling laying eggs, but those are the gals those guys get fucking You don't think of chickens like that when you have them No, because when you have them you see how mean they are to each other and then when you see what happens when they see a mouse Whoo, i've never seen them see a mouse. They go crazy. Oh my god Oh my god, it's the craziest shit i've ever seen they they they run at that mouse at a speed that you didn't know Move and they just all try to tear it out of each other's mouth. Wow. Yeah, they tore it apart like instantaneous It's crazy There's a video. There's a bunch of videos of like a cat like spying on a mouse and this chicken comes running in and snatches The mouse looks it up right in front of the cat you never seen this I did you need to see this because most people have a distorted idea what a chicken is Those motherfuckers are little dinosaurs. Yeah, they just conserve energy for the most part for the most part So look the cats playing with the monkey with them out right watch this chicken coming and storm the castle Soon as the chicken sees that mouse This is the same video So the cat's still playing with it cats just had okay, this is where I've seen it before So the cat's just like oh, I'm having a good time this chicken is like what oh shit. Give me that fucking thing. Oh shit Yeah, look at it. Look at the territory. Fuck you. Fuck you Wow Bro tears it apart. It's tears it apart That's it they love mice and so I think it's their favorite thing to eat I've never seen a react like that before Wow the way they went after that mouse You sure the frog eating? Was that you? Yes, is that insane check this out? Look at this look at this video So I saw a few days ago. This is crazy, bro. This is wild Look at the mouse holding on like no bro. Don't eat me nice. Oh, it's a rat. It's a rat Bro that he just eats him That's not the one that I post oh, so there's a bunch of them so it's a Asian bullfrog Live feeding these imagine the hell that these rats live under They're just trying to figure it out and there's no answer. There's no answer to this Yeah, and you're in this thing your food with a monster a giant-mouthed monster that can swallow you in one bite And they're jumping and then there's a camera on you So the end of your life gets mocked on a stupid podcast Like this look at this motherfucker keep it going I see you toss me a tick the box of tissues you got over there Oh my god, look at this. Here it goes. Look at this. It's a wrap. Watch him eat it It's a wrap, but how crazy is that we stuffs it in his mouth with his hands. It's so disturbing Just give me give me give me I mean, that's like a cartoonish animal gets the fingers It's the fingers and you and what's crazy is you tend to think that animal soft because it's round But it's a lot of round shit that you would call fat that'll fucking kiss it It's just it's the hippopotamus effect look at stuff in the tail in his mouth spaghetti and all the other mice are like no Bro, not me next. He's just swallowing it All he does is swallow it that for rat is just stuck inside his guts Being digested how many rats chew through the guts? Rats are pretty tough. The New York City rats are amazingly tough. You guys love New York City gotta Spent there are the size of cats actually. I think they could I think they could I'm gonna give people this To black people who call other black people coons as an insult if you spent any time in like The south, you know raccoons actually tough motherfucker tough and smart brilliant and will attack little fingers Yeah, they're not very afraid of anything. So black people we got to come up with a new word and sell to each other cuz um Raccoons are fucking warriors, bro And they're not like you should probably just call each other possums the raccoons fuck. Yeah, they all the time Fuck them up. We got told a story from this old LA gang, dude Apparently a dude was literally taking a raccoon around a dog fights winning dog fights with this huge fucking raccoon Oh my god when he told us that me and my brother G Davis man Shouts out the Gerard sales Atlanta man on the end Yeah, I promise cuz people think on bullshit hit Gerard sales Atlanta DM an accident a guy told us about this shit This motherfucker was taking raccoons to dog fights winning thousands of dollars. Oh my god Yeah raccoons ain't raccoon raccoons. I said they wait the raccoon I don't know if they wait him but the dude the way he was describing the size like I've seen big raccoons like I I saw raccoon once she and I Went out to a dinner and when I saw the motherfucker And then one or two others popped up. I'm just like We'll just go around this I don't feel like fucking fighting right not interested in having a raccoon run up on me Yeah, they might be rabbit. You know I mean I'm gonna blowgun once at a carnival yeah Because I had raccoons that were fucking with my trash where I was living in New Rochelle New York gotcha, and I put the blowgun out the window and wait for the raccoons look at this motherfucker Jesus Christ he jumps down this dog Not not afraid of it at all not afraid of it at all should be a will to destroy it seems like Well, it's little like a little badger man. Yeah, man. They're like a badger in a lot of ways look at his fight stand Right yeah, I mean he's prepared to stay balanced. I Mean that's a ferocious little animal yeah, and when it's a bunch of them You know what it's like. It's like an effeminate badger You know you know I'm saying like the posturing of it. It's like a badger's gay cousin that can fight like fuck Badger's cousin. He does ballet, but when he's gonna learn how to throw him up. Yeah straight up Man, that's shouts out. Let me shout out. There's a there's a club my daughter goes to club now My mom actually went there's a gay club on What was Simpson roll call the Marquette and it was where gay black kids? You know kid poor working-class kids have went for just you know dozens and does like decades right? But I always tell people that you know that just assume you could fuck with the gay kids school Just like no no that's a man. That's a guy man. He can he'll beat your fucking ass like you know what I'm saying? Don't don't let it fool you so those kids at the Marquette that have been partying since my mom was partying on my daughter Party that those kids are prepared to defend themselves. Oh, you know all that bullying shit never flew in school It's also stupid. Yeah at this point in time. You got to realize it's something you're born with yeah And there's nothing wrong with it. So what's the problem because it's been the problem in the past Granddad about when I was a kid and he was he was like a people always been I remember him telling me say what you did he say he said we knew little Richard was gay Who didn't I was too many fruity good booty I was it was hilarious to me, but I was just my grandfather just it was just like what the fuck you talking about like and that's what they and I have to gay uncle's God bless me with two dads and both of their youngest brothers were gay men and My uncle vent and God bless my uncle Carlton with some of the biggest influences in my life Terms of art and culture and encouraging me to do That's all and they could also fight Mmm, your fucking ass is off my uncle vent Lord knows we had some battles But we put a hole in my grandmother's wall and she made us fix it That's not realized like a fucking ten-year-old kid and a gay boy probably aren't as good as fixing this wall But we had to we had to dry it She made us do this to do the drywall and shit and we didn't fight inside anymore We just took our fights outside, but I love my uncle to this day He's married to Lee shouts out my uncle Vin and my uncle Lee one of the worst Knockouts in the history of boxing was a gay man who was being taunted by his opponent Wow, and he kept calling him a fairy and saying all these things about him And it was Benny Perrette Benny Perrette and Emil Griffith. Yeah, and Emil Griffith beat him to death He killed him beat him to death and it's it's a horrific beating and it's like and Emil Griffith was a champion, too Yeah, let me see if you find that that I'm pretty sure that was a title fight, but Emil Griffith who's just a wicked boxer. He got in the corner and He started beating him Where he was like trapped by his punches like he was hitting him so hard that he was like literally keeping him In place to take more punches with the force of the passion like lifting him up, but here it comes Here boom boom boom. Oh So now he's got him in the corner. Oh And watch these right hands. He's like literally keeping him up. Boom again You see the sweat coming out here is here it is. So literally let him fall. She's the look at his head going back. Oh, oh I mean, that's it and he died Wow, so he slumps and he's gone And that's the very rare Like death in ring Situation where someone literally beat someone to death you got it. You got to be careful of the buttons you push with people You got to be careful. Yeah, I mean he probably would have tried to do that to him. Anyway, realistically really boxer. They're boxing Yeah, but yeah, I've seen some of that off. Yeah, the referee has to come people come holding him up though That's what I'm saying. Like you literally saw him. Yeah. Yeah most boxes after they know they got did some boxes even look at the ref Like it stopped this shit, but he wasn't he didn't want to stop. He beat that dude. Yeah Yeah, and he didn't commit suicide after no, he didn't I think I don't know I read about what affected him I read about the About the ref that all that there was another box that died in the ring, but the ref that committed suicide After it rolled him so hard. Oh, I forget People were saying that he was responsible Yeah, or he probably just felt you know, no, I'm sure no that's a very hard job The referees job is very hard cuz you're gonna hate it no matter what happened Right and you make any split second judgments and you could get it wrong. You get it wrong It happens great referees get it right free for the man. See any do coke Kim fight. That's what it was the ref that killed herself But your your ability to research on the spot is amazing. He's the goats Yeah, could we get you to help win arguments for husband? Can we make that shit happen? Check for me, but I'll tell you something Jamie will pull up some articles that disagree with your opinion Respect though. I mean the facts of the facts. Yeah, the facts that well sometimes they're not sometimes you gotta dig in Sometimes you gotta dig in and go hey who says these are the facts? Yeah, who wrote that? What is politifact? What is that? Like who is who's the fact checker? Are they biased does someone sent me a chat GPT where a chat GPT was like they had arguments of Fact-checkers versus chat GPT and chat GPT was like poking logical holes in the fact I mean that is gonna be a weird thing when we have AI that is everywhere and people are throwing all kinds of questions into it AI is beatable. I'm gonna tell people that they did some type of thing when my album was finished That essentially scans through the songs looks for imperfections and things that might have doubled or tripled in the mix and shit High and holy on my record was it couldn't do anything with it and that's what I realized the thing that counterbalances AI is sold That's that's that no matter like like no matter what we make to mimic us. There's something that's in us Yeah, that that is unmemicable. There's something that and it's beyond intelligence It's because it's AI shows us you can replicate intelligence to a degree, you know But there there's there's something in human beings that is some people call divine some people call spirits something But it's something and when my saw when I my manager called me will shots out the will active management He said motherfucker, you know, I mean nobody starts it off with motherfucker. It's gonna be some good news You know unless he says motherfucker and it's that's when I know oh shit We're in trouble, but he hit me and told me and I'm just like oh shit. We defeated AI You know one saw one album we defeated it. That's interesting. That's why Michael's gonna want march into the fucking Grammys and walk off I think it's so weird because they had that Drake song that apparently was super popular. Yeah, it was an AI song Yeah, that didn't work for me. So I can hear shots out Drizzy The thing about someone's music is that especially if you know that someone created it You've got this psychic bond with that person while you're listening to their shit Yeah, if I know it's a person who's sitting down writing it. Oh my I'm in it. I'm in it with you. And if that's not the case if it's just music it does it's not as good Well, yeah, that's the difference between the Jane. Yeah, it means like jingles. Everyone has a jingle. They know it's cerebral almost You know, I mean jingle, but there's something about music. There's a feeling you're sitting there fucking listening to it's a drug Yeah, it is music is drug if you are doing cardio and a great song comes on all of a sudden you have energy Yeah, what the fuck is that? Yeah, that's crazy. That's real. That's real. It's like it's like if you could take a shot an Energy boost shot when you're doing elliptical god damn it feel like shit and then whatever it is that comes on also Shots out to al man who's helped me get off the way out al of claymore and fit effects in Atlanta shots out to al because Alan will just tell on days like this motherfucker doesn't want to be here and he'll just throw on jams from like the 70s and 80s And shit gap band Commodore shit like that and I was like I see why you motherfuckers were at Venice Beach lifting like that Yeah, I was listening this shit looking at a bunch of chicks You know I'm saying like of course you can get to get no songs with seven minutes long So I'm complaining and all of a sudden the seven-minute song comes on and then before you know it it's time to get off You know, you know is the greatest on the exercise bike want to quit song comes on fires you up What voodoo child slightly turn shut the fuck up slight return. Okay that one. I'm gonna try that get just a guitar Oh, oh my god Also, you're back in 1968 You know, you're like, holy shit. I like was that like Zeppelin one for for for for getting me through You know Zeppelin one is that blue one is great too. Yeah, I think voodoo child was the the Is my favorite showcase of what Hendrix could do? Yeah, like the sound It was so distinctive. It's so different than anybody else's guitar It was like whatever he was doing was just Eric Clapton said he saw me wanted to quit playing guitar Yeah, I heard that before what the fuck man and it's my focus playing upside down right? He's a left To our crew sample this to which was dope as fuck shots out the uncle Luke Well, have you ever heard voodoo problems 99 problems mixed with this no, it's amazing they mix the J with it Shouts out to ice tea. You originally had the night problems. Oh gee. Okay, you're tired. This comes on She go I Joe is in here tweaking Joe is about to make me do push-ups and I'm telling you that's what you need You need that juice that inspiration that brings us back to haters. They couldn't get inspiration from people that you get juice Yo shouts out to that lady Who's Emmy nominated that hates me god bless? God bless your soul woman. I had never thought about winning an Emmy in my life But because you hated on me when I got and she hates me for the most ridiculous reason god bless her So she hates me just because I'm not a Democrat dick do boy You know what I mean? Like I've had Democrats I like and I push for them especially locally, but I'm sorry lady I can't be a do boy and god bless me to fuck around and get rich I really I don't take money from any politicians or political party So if you see me stand next to someone's cuz I really believe And if they don't convince me to believe I'm not gonna stand next to him, right? She wanted me to stand next to somebody. I'm like, you know, sorry lady I've had some conversations with is, you know, I've just I've tried my best but I'm not hating but it's just saying my thing But this chick was just like I'm gonna use my platform to and I'm like, you don't really have a platform Yeah, but she in her bio. She's an Emmy nominated actress. Mmm, man winning that Emmy sure felt good I've locked her but I'm sure someone has told her but I'm just like holding it I hope she sees the picture like yeah, thank God for your hate lady because it made me care I went to the I went to the ceremonies and walked away with a trophy Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. And to her there was a study that was done recently about left-wing authoritarianism and the way certain people behave and that it's just it's like a bunch of different psychological conditions that are there almost indistinguishable. Yeah from like, you know, like horrible narcissism horrible Like psychotic behavior like see if you could find it what what their conclusions were but at the fringes when people what what happens is When you have groups that are ideal Ideological groups whether it's the left or the right. Yeah, you're gonna get people that just join that group that are absolutely insane Yeah, and if you don't call it out Then you have a giant problem because people are gonna associate you with whatever the worst aspects of your yeah like right-wing Proud Boys The experts somehow overlooked Authoritarians on the left many psychologists wrongly assume that coercive attitudes exists only among conservatives Of course, it's a human characteristic I did a speech for fire for the organization fire and I miss it I'm sorry the Brown shirts of Italy, but I'm what I meant was a brown search with Germany that As the as the left as you accomplished more power politically Don't use it as a bludgeon in the same way you've perceived it to be used against you Right that you you have to you have to rule quote-unquote in a in a in a more fair and equitable way You can't let your fair and equitable thoughts become totalitarian. Yeah, you also can't give in to this Crazy instinct that we all humans have to be tribal. Yes, and I am a Democrat. I am a lifelong blue no matter Yeah, you can't that's not Both yes both sides, but we tell I grew up fortunate enough to grow up in a household where my grandmother was SCLC member had from Tuskegee had been apart born in 1932 had been a part of civil rights stuff my grandfather So my grandmother grew up on a farm could go to school They weren't wealthy, but they had food they had sustenance and they had education My grandfather grew up working a sawmill at eight years old because his father abandoned his family He had to feed his mother's and sister. So his mentality was much more libertarian I would say his fat mentality was if God gave you an appetite and a mind to build a fishing rod You should be able to catch fish and my grandmother was like you shouldn't complain about having a bi-fishing license Because the game warden has to make sure things are legit and somebody's to clean up the park So I got a chance to see these wonderful Political arguments between these two people that loved each other, you know My grandmother college-educated woman my grandfather drove a truck and hauled moonshine and gaveled You know I mean, he married this God-fearing woman He never I never saw him walking the church But they had these great debates that showed me that there are no absolutes That they're going to be something from each side that makes sense Yeah to run a good household and they kind of date I watched them just do it right You know I'm saying and I just I'm glad I saw that because I don't feel married to any ideology. That's beautiful That's important shots out the Betty and Willie. God bless the dead man. Yeah getting attached to ideologies It's always a bad idea Particularly when you do human beings have in America of two choices Yeah, you have two choices the left and the right and like and people just like they adhere they adhere to whatever this side Yeah, because they want them to win Yeah, and then you have some weird problematic figures like Trump who comes along Yeah, and like there's a lot of never Trump or Republicans. I don't know what to do Yeah, but I say in this crazy ass country pay attention to the people who have No chance of winning sometimes because they're gonna they're gonna be some truth-toad Like no matter what you feel about Trump there was a moment in that debate Chappelle talks about it when Trump said of course these loopholes exist they exist. He was talking to Hillary Yeah, like hell. Yeah, I'm gonna take advantage of the loophole Yeah, because they also exist for the people who don't in your campaign. I was like yeah, finally Yeah, a member of the oligarchy class says yeah motherfucker. We're cheating Yeah, and I was just like I was like that at that point Americans should have said hard reset Yeah, like they literally should have said pre-isin how a heart reset we're gonna We're gonna reform all this shit the money's gonna work different federal None of us said a goddamn thing and you know why because because we're all We're all complacent in some capacity. We're all the company in this in this grand scheme That's fucking us over and it's in the food. You don't have an educated Constituency a proletariat. It's all just going to count on reform So like doing this election people like who are you supporting? I was like, I don't give a fuck nationally I give a fuck that Cornel West is in the race because I'm interested to see what he's gonna say Kennedy I'm interested just to hear you know, whatever crazy shit people think he's Whoever else is running. I'm just interested because the two parties we know we got but there are all these little voices that pop up That little grains are truth. They're staying no chance of winning in some cases But let me just take a grain of what you're saying and in that way I'll know what to take back to the party that wins and say hey, what about this? Mm-hmm Why do we have money for this but we don't have money? Yeah, you know like Sanders people told me like Mike your business guy you like money Sanders even said hey I think you're gonna be a billionaire with taxes shit out of you, too We were laughing and joking backstage at the Amazon workers strike that we were both supporting But my thing is I don't want to pay the government more taxes But if I gotta pay more taxes, let me pay What the guys plan who's gonna educate kids and trades and scholarship for free because that way I'm making a 20 year investment So to my 16 year old daughter when she's 36 has a much better country full of educated kids Versus I bought a lot about more missiles, you know, yes. Yes Yeah, that's possible But if you don't put them in now, I am a millionaire I'm gonna do my best to protect my fucking money Yeah, cuz I wasn't born a millionaire, you know, I mean I was born just a working cash black kid now Hey Michael, yeah, you know what I mean? And and Michael had to Michael never like working at Six Flags or AutoZone or UPS So once Michael fucked around to figure out a sing-it dance and makes money Michael wants to save More of his money than spin, you know If you had ultimate faith that the government was gonna do its best to utilize that money for the greater good of the community You would happily give your money happily. That's the problem with when you know, you're saying they have to give their share Even if they do Even if they do, where's it going? Yeah, how did we come up with so much money for this Ukraine war? But we never had any money for all the problems that existed inner cities and infrastructure and these Crime-ridden gang-ridden spots that have been there forever We had this guy this police officer on once yeah from Baltimore And he was saying that they found an old police docket It was like a record of all the old arrests from like the 1970s I think it was and he said he realized he was the same crimes in the same place Yeah, and he felt totally useless. Yeah, he was like what the fuck cuz really you're just zookeepers at that point You just yeah, you're not we're not trying to fix the problems at all But yet how many billions and trillions and where's this fucking coming from and they said oh, there's a hidden tax It's inflation. Yeah, and we're making profits off the problems too with Reagan and the private a private Making prisons private. Yeah with that dad is an evil because once they put a private prison saying a small South Georgia town They have to guarantee 70% occupants. Oh How the fuck do you guarantee occupancy fuck you do that, you know in prison? Yeah, the goal should be to have the least amount of prisons in the world You know, we have the worst and and and and seems that the most you know, Ali Siddiq was here I love brilliant brother. He's one of the story of all time And he was explaining the system that you get put in a place that's in a small town where everybody in the town Works in this prison. Yeah, and then you have generations like if you get in an argument with this person He's like their brothers on the next shift and then their father is the one who runs the whole cell block Yeah, and then they're there, you know, it's like you can't get away That's everybody works there and they run you and they could do whatever the fuck they want you and they can say you got in a fight Yeah, they could they could open up your cage They could beat you to death and you have to exist in that people got angry that I met with them That I met with our governor and I have a relationship with him You know, I'm thankful for that because I've seen some good things come out of my relationship with them I'll I tell people you know, regardless of how he felt who won elections. There's a judge her name's chief judge Joshua Jackson, she's in the cab County. We've known each other since we were 11 went to school She did not have an easy life was damn their homeless her last two years of high school worked her ass off with the college And Buffalo law school came down Became a judge and she saw kids coming through them just like the kids she had went to school with they were you know Made up made a fucked-up mistake or whatever. She said, okay, I'm gonna give you a year I'm gonna give you one year to turn your shit around to get your diploma get your GED Let's get you working and she had me come speak to like one of her first graduating classes and shit I congratulate him in her program works so well that not only did it help to reduce an in recidivism That another woman from juvenile court named Miss Ali ended up getting appointed. So it's a black woman judge who's a Democrat there's another black Democratic woman who's in juvenile in a juvenile justice system and and My might she worked with my mentor Brad Boyd who was a white prosecutor and judge through his career Brad retires I meet Miss Ali we become friends the current governor Brian Kemp appoints Miss Ali over the Georgia Public Defender Council and they're helping by emulating the same program So like when I tell people work hyper local what that one judge decided to do is a Democratic woman Gets another Democrat is a woman appointed by a white Republican guy To help in that recidivism So that we don't just have a cycle an endless cycle of young black men coming in and out not only did he do that But I got two homies that are serving life in jail and one calls and he converted to Islam and in South Georgia that ain't always looked upon You know in a great way when when those generations that are running that are strong southern Christian Baptist And I'm just like man my guys being treated badly like I you know And I say I'm not gonna give you his name or doing anything. I want the preferential I don't want you to be in a target to say hey You just did this with a rapper, but he made sure that a call got made and that prison tightened up song with his treatment You know I mean, and I think that people especially those who claim to be Christian like I've kind of come back To the philosophies of Christianity on this album on the album Michael because my grandmother raised me to vowtly Christian I didn't understand I ran from it for years But when I start studying the character of Jesus whether you believe he was real or not The revolutionary love that he had for people that Deserved and didn't deserve it if I can achieve a measure of that in my lifetime I've done well the last person he saved on earth was a self confessed thief being crucified by the state with him And I'm like if I can just keep that mentality not forget the prisoner You know if I can do that then I'll be a step toward being a better human being You know so said my best, but we also can't have Situations where people profit off people being incarcerated. Yeah, and that's what we have in this country We're treating human beings like they're batteries because they are batteries to generate money, and we're not putting them out better And we're not putting them out but you look at other prisons from you know smaller European countries They're damn. They're like college dorms, and I'm not talking about just the amenities which are better But they put them out smarter. They put out carpenters. They put out mechanics I just watched some story where the prisoners have a fucking print shop They're printing out never print shop with their printing stuff. Why aren't we doing that like in DeKalb County? I think they had a GED program to cap counter jail But even in state prisons the young men mostly young black men that we're sending in a jail. They have no skills They've made stupid emotional decisions. We'd have no psychotherapy for them We have no trade skills for them virtually if we if we simply change that You change the construct of the tiles that depend on the prison and you could be Be potentially creating people to build the towns versus Simply having prisoners that service Batteries in the matrix of the co's and prison workers. You know well you can't have it profitable And it's gotta somehow or another Rehabilitate and you've got to use all the tools that are available to rehabilitate Yeah, and some of those tools are psychedelics really you think we should be giving our prisoners truth I want to give it a member DMA Yeah, first of all they'd be way less likely to fuck each other up. Yeah, they're doing MDMA I really believe that I really believe that MDMA sessions look they're great for people who've experienced trauma Yeah maps the the psychedelic organization is using them right now for people with PTSD Yeah soldiers who come back home seen fried on up. Yeah, they just they're horrified and they have a really hard time assimilating and MDMA has been particularly effective for them. What do you think about that doctor? It's a black doctor. He micro doses Opiates, but he was on the breakfast clubs black doctor I gotta get back in contact with him Okay, I'll connect you would you would you put him over the program to do that in terms of prisons like and I'm gonna think about Georgia you will first of all he would be the most honest on the pharmacology. He got the most honest because He's got you know he's He's a real professor at Columbia. Yeah people tried to write him off. Oh, yeah, they try to write him off But the thing is he's right. He's right and he was a straight-edge scientist until He started studying them. Yeah, and then when you start studying them and he realized that the propaganda about whether it's Addictive properties whatever it's mostly not true. Yeah, and even the side effects mostly not true and in their pure form There's great benefit to some of them and one of the things is heroin. He likes to sniff heroin. Yeah, that's what I'm saying Yeah, yeah, you know he says it. It's just lovely. He goes. I love it. It's a beautiful feeling and he's very healthy So he's not you know he's he's thin and fit. I've seen him. He's not like a mess He's cognitively very sharp looks calm very calm very calm very calm And you can't argue with him about what these drugs are and do and he was one of the very first To highlight to me that crack cocaine and cocaine there's not a difference in the effect And so they have a difference in the structuring the law the only difference is your freebasing it It's yeah, just goes right to your head quicker. It seems like it's still from being a from being a former teenage dealer It seems like crack hits faster and last shorter. It's because you're hitting yeah, because it's because it's free to smoke Okay, that's what I'm freebasing it versus snorting. Yeah I'll coke addicts are fucking assholes like they get on coke and they get too happy like yeah We're talking about a guy early use your fucking best friend Yeah, yeah, I'll get to that but give a free base. I would say it's a quicker It's a yeah, cuz it's it's just free-basin. Yes free-basin cocaine Which I wrapped about on something for junkies on my album I want people to know the album Michael and I know and I'm not this not just a musician plugging shit this is really like the life of a kid who grew up and Kind of did and seen it all good and bad But I wrote that record because I know no other rapper would ever do it and something for junkies really was just saying half empathy sympathy and Have love for people because all of us in addicts or something But but that that I understand totally what you're saying in terms of that like this This is there there there is something to drugs past the propaganda. We've been fed since Reagan and you know Ronnie and Nancy Yeah, but we're also learning about them from people who haven't experienced them This is your parents are telling you stay away from math. This has gotta be something to math They drive their truck for three days in a row and When I when I was a kid people would do math and play pool a lot of gamblers really they would take amphetamines I don't know if it was math in particular, but it was amphetamines Yeah, and that was like the big thing for playing pool They would play pool and they would gamble for like 20 hours in a row 30 hours in a row These motherfuckers would stay up for days until one guy broke and they would just be doing amphetamines. So my cousin Jimmy We lost the schizophrenia. He's alive But I say lost the schizophrenia because it's hard to if you anybody who follows me on Twitter They see my Twitter having never changes to me with my arm around his light-skinned kid. That's my cousin Jimmy's closest thing I had to a brother But he he gambled we all shot pool in school and you know petty gambled and shit, but he was really good So I'd end up being with him sometimes just sitting for 20 hours while he we walk in he'd have 800 bucks Why by the end of the night he have 80,000 bucks what I'm saying No bullshit But the end of the night is the next night because we'd be up for 20 fucking hours and then we need when he when he when he you know because he was never a drug user and I honestly think maybe Us doing marijuana kind of probably clicked his schizophrenic switch because his dad Was schizophrenic and it runs counter on his mom's side of the family to where we were related to the matriarchal But you remember a moment when you notice that something was wrong Well, my wife and sisters talked about it and my sisters that told my wife Mike loved him so much He just didn't want to see say everybody else saw it But I but we pulled up to a fucking zaxby's I said cuz oh what you want to eat and I had just told him like I was like cuz your nails can't count alone You need to get a you know, you know manicure something like he just he was what they call a player Like he you know, he shot pool all the girls like to me talk smooth He was never no fighter no rough, but I noticed like him kind of not keeping up his self in the same way So I knows that but I just thought we was on the grind. He taking the grind too seriously he need to you know, it's my first years on the road promo and You know my wife said I saw it She says but you know you didn't you didn't want to see it cuz you loved him so much Yeah, and he got out the car. He told me what he wanted to eat. He got out the car went to the bathroom He never came back And I remember calling his mom like yo, we I'm not gonna leave my cousin Like and she was like just gone. So his mother had even already noticed but his mother had went through that experience with his father So his mother knew what what she knew it was coming. Yeah, and uh, you know, it's it's um, you know Shouts out man. My cousin with mental illness and really good pool players Yeah, gotta be my cousin was amazing. Did we beat DMX out of eight grand DMX in this wow He got deep for five in the club bounce in Atlanta and these these former manager who's the who's the homie? I was like I knew my cousin was gonna drag him D could play good pool to buy new Yeah, he plays. Yeah, he played good. We DMX played great pool, but I knew my cousin had him in I've got my cousin Got him. So cuz I was been D and I'm just man I was like yo getting on better your man and he's like now I want to get off like D Damn, I'm like your man. Don't even believe in your man. Tell him man put a grand on your man Like three grand my cousin be different fight we had a ball man We went down the street of this just just have a goddamn ball fucking around in the middle of the night People don't know how fun pool gambling is. Oh, it's fun. It's so fun. It's fun It's so fun and it's social pool is so social pool is much more social than golf Can you actually talk shit while somebody shoot? Oh, yeah Yeah, and if you watch like guys play for big money Yeah watching guys like when when I was watching when I was a kid There's two guys that were playing for $10,000 and I remember I couldn't believe it Yeah, I couldn't believe there's a giant crowd around there playing one pocket. Yeah, there was a giant crowd around the table I was like, this is not this is so much money Man, I've seen some I've seen some I've seen hundred thousand dollars move Yeah, because you you're sitting in here all night and it's like People it's like people are here about the games and calls and start coming in there just more cars and start showing up I've been in there. I've been in crazy places with my cousin. I've been in gambling houses I've been in full, you know, I'm saying this my grandfather played tongue He was more of a gambling like my cousin that my the men in my family were Yeah, I never was I was I figure I could rap that's about you could lose your whole life Gambling on pool because it's so addictive. Yeah, I know guys that were like really talented pool players Yes, realize I had to quit my friend Tommy. He's like a world-class pool player Yeah, and when he was like 21 years long, he's like I gotta get out of this There was this dude that he was playing that was this old dude that they were they were battling it out back and forth back And forth like grind it out for you 200 bucks and this old dude was missing teeth and he didn't have a fucking dollar in his pocket And he was like this killer old 40 year old pool players like I can't be this guy. Yeah, I'm gonna be this guy I'm not gonna be like broke and fucking scratching for 200 bucks and not being able to pull it off They were like neck and neck. Yeah a race to 11. It's like nine nine. Yeah Gamblers is too stressful. It's very stressful, but it's also very addictive. Yeah, I'm not mad at it I'm just not I've realized I hit the lotto. I hit the lotto with my arm Dr. Bonzo Rettick man, who's a son of a lawyer Bonzo Rettick and a friend of the C. Lo Rettick Who was my friend and introduced me to big boy and did the song kryptonite but Bonzo told me he said you and C. Lo They're taking far bigger risks because I knew if I go to medical school, I got good grades I'd end up being a doctor. He said you guys are living off your fucking imagination Yeah, that's that's different. So with gambling, you know, those guys are fucking with skills So I see it but I just I think it's a bigger gamble. Sometimes I just live off my imagination Your imagination is a gamble, but it's one that you can control. Yeah beautiful way Yeah, whereas the gamble of pool is just it's a different fucking, you know A gamble of poker people that get really addicted to getting involved in big poker games I ain't got it. I like to watch but I ain't got it golf people play golf for big money. Yeah big money Yeah, you know talk shit. Yeah, that's all say your your whole like future is rolling on a ball And you hope it goes into the pocket. Yeah, fuck cuz you just mortgage your house scary shit Yeah, people get wild but it's also there's something and again pool holes. I think of the best example that it's a social location Yeah, people get together and it's predominantly men Yeah And it's just there's all just a lot of jokes and a lot of talking shit a lot of personalities And there's like a it's a great community center for men. I look at barbershops and say women I look at barbershops I open my first barbershop just because I wanted to have a social center in the South Side of Atlanta But I wanted to have something that didn't feel Diving wasn't drug heavy, you know That was just just a good place for moms to bring their boys to count a lot of you know So yeah, 70 what 70 percent single parent mother mother-led households in the black community Barbershops are great because they give boys contacts with good decent men who hoy a mentor like figures So I opened my first one for kind of personal reasons, you know, I'm saying I figure I make a little money or whatever And we've turned into a bigger brand actually we just got an investor to help us expand it into something bigger But I did it mainly, you know less about getting a haircut and selling product even though now we've developed product We sell a bunch of t-shirts. We need a Joe Rogan t-shirt We didn't do something cool, but I started just as social centers and have realized whether it was doing stuff with Helping people get out the vote whether it was helping people get more knowledge and men in particular about mental health awareness and stuff They are some of the most effective social centers in our community, you know, I mean in terms of my community I think just working-class communities period I'm just a big fan of barbershops for the same reason that that pool halls right there They're places that guys can get together and it's safe to just talk. Yeah, just be guys Those are important. Yeah girls need them too. Yeah, I mean different animals Yeah And what I what I like about barbershops is you get that special kind of gal that comes in there that talks shit better than every man Yeah, exactly At the swag shop man, we get some chicks come through there what they they make everybody bless Yeah, I love it. Yeah, we got some dope ass female barbers, too. That's awesome Yeah, having a spot like that where guys can gather that's huge used to be like a corner bar for people But then you just creating alcoholics. Yeah, that's what I'm saying the barbershop you come in you look rough You come out leaving good looking good. We I want a rogan shirt for real man I'd love to get your face. Okay on a shirt. We get your fresh shave cut man We you know, we give some money to charity or some whatever cool shit we can do it But I love to get a rogan shirt. Okay, I mean we got an outcast shirt coming. I love the line you up. Thank you Thank you very much. That's awesome. Yeah, so you're involved though You're you're like one of the best guys in terms of diversifying your income Yeah, you're very wise in terms like you invest and you always encourage people That's interesting. You got to don't buy a fucking ballot. Goodbye. Yeah apartment building. Yeah, people are paying you right. Yeah, it's gonna happen It's gonna get you like what I'm really telling people It's just a shit my grandparents told me and I fucked up and I just didn't listen young enough You know, I mean like I could have did shit at 21. I could have did it at 26 27 But I kind of chased, you know, there's yeah, there's just something about drug dealers. That's so appealing I mean There's something that makes you say god damn I wanted that 20 something But if you if you're lifting your timeline if it happens sooner quick But if you just make some investments those investments will pay for the for the bullshit So I want to dodge demon the dodge if you're out there listening Like I have that last that last demon that's coming in 170 like just get me on the fucking list man You know, I mean they're making I don't think they're making a mini. They're only making a few Only making a few but I've been a longtime supporter of Hellcat But I love that you love muscle cars Give me any muscle car, especially the fucking specially fucking Hemi's and any German sedan Yeah, oh man. I'm gonna go fast and I'm gonna fuck shit up But Joe's referred to like I wanted to buy fucking demon and my wife was like nah You wanted to buy an apartment building for this long This is what you're gonna do But I just I learned that to do the types of rap to be free to say the things I wanted to say That I couldn't be depended upon the record company saying no or yes And what gave me the true freedom was just taking more responsibility More responsibility from a financial standpoint and get smart about it and then going to get the right mentors You know, like there's a guy named John Hope Bryant Who was the largest owner of single-family houses that were for rent in the in the nation? Denny Denny sold his company to itself and you know cash a hundred something million dollars and he you know He is a direct mentor to me and Tia also Tony wrestler who owns the Hawks is Tony's early 60s Doesn't come from money working class got a New York and has built the seven billion dollar fortune There's no fucking way when I'm sitting in a room with him. I'm not gonna act So what do you think about this barbershop shit? You know what I'm saying? There's no way I'm not gonna to gonna pick from the people around me like I'll hit you in the middle of night Not about money, but just about other shit just to ask and you answered So always seek to kind of know more because it'll it'll grow you you know, I'm saying So what I learned and figured out was if I have other streams of income and tip is good about this too Tia is very good about this if I do that I can be more free to be whoever I want to be 100% and that's that's it. So I still fuck you money That's it. That's it. So young man out there. I Encourage you always get a trade that way you don't have to depend on people people to call you I don't argue with my plumber my lawyer because I don't like cleaning up my own shit, right? So I'm never gonna argue with them date. Whatever they charge an hour is what the fuck I'm paying Shouts out to Elliott my pluck my lawyer, you know, I'm saying but I um, I just want people to know You know people a lot of people think oh man, he's a rapper. He's rich. Of course. He's gonna say that shit I didn't learn this just from you know, the John Hope Bryant's or the Tony wrestlers even I learned from my grandparents my grandparents When they were married my grandpa had a house my grandma had a house my grandpa's national I sell them a fucking house. We'll just rent that house out I'll buy RV and we'll take the kids on vacation every year me and my sisters got a chance to travel with on vacations regional Vacations, Alabama fucking Florida Tennessee, but it expanded our mind state as such when our grandparents died We just sell their homes. My sisters just live in their homes We kept the homes that I bought my daughter a house behind my sisters and putting them in a truss So our whole thing was try to live a more magnified life of what our grandparents taught us Save and conserve have another stream of income besides your job Just simple shit like that and then you have like Joe said the fuck you money You don't have to be a slight a wage slave. You don't have to beg and borrow You don't have to make poor choices because you want more money Yeah, sometimes people take a terrible job that just pays better and then they live in misery and unhappy terrible terrible I blessed Otto's on I would have shot myself in the head If I had to do it, you know, yeah I remember working at a gas station when the guy was like 45 years old and a grand national We thought it was the coolest guy ever because he had a 87 grand national. I bought one Oh, did you really shot South to man my man Ron very valuable man, right? Valuable Ron grew up his his grandpa was a major in Atlanta Police Department And he grew up few streets behind me younger than me But Matt Ron and after he moved out the neighborhood became fast friends, but he called me what's the deal with these? Why do you like these? Alright, so these come first of all Buick is a proper man today and in terms of Chevy and like Pontiac and Buick are like Fancy your guys they wore jackets and shit, right? But there was steel muscle. It's a v6 87 when the G and X drops is faster than some Porsches and vets. It's kicking fucking ass Yeah, and the grand national and the T types from 83 forward they were just some kick-ass affordable muscle cars They were discreet enough that you wouldn't know but they were street enough They made you feel like a badass motherfucker So if you were going to work in one of these you weren't seeming like this don't run. This is my car Ron calls me my man Ron calls me and says yo, there's a guy down here who has the grand national for this price I told him he was selling it to you. He knocked the thousand dollars off. You're buying this fucking car I'm taking it home today. Just send me the money to how does it handle man? They well Since pro-touring has been introduced you can upgrade these by just up the bow it handled like an 80s car It went fastest in a straight line, but now Ron is building mine over. So we're getting another chassis on it We're lowering it where all which were changing suspects on it to make ham We actually got and this is gonna make some Buick guys mad. So let me qualify We're taking the six cylinder out. We're having it sent to a specialist who builds those but I'm putting the hellcat motor Why would anybody get mad about that? Cuz Buick got his your accent. Yeah. Yeah, Buick got a bar and you're yeah They need to suck it. Well, I'm not Joe said that I did not say there's gonna be a lot of old white southern men Let it go kids. They're putting v8s and Porsches. They're taking a GM crate Yeah, it's a Amazing it's crazy. Yeah, Rutledge would had one done man. She's my friend Out the Rutledge Jared Mike must oh, yeah, like all my cargo Mike must oh, yeah, Mike is such a great human being. Yeah, I went back and forth with him online I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you got a video. He's got so much enthusiasm for those cars and it's so infectious man I was just a Napa with him. He brought his wife out to her a solo show I had out of nowhere out there, but I love Mike. I love Jared Sean Smith is a designer He did those new cars for arm. He designed those new cars for Kevin Kevin Hart. Oh, yeah, Sean is an amazing guy I must have a hundred and fifty thousand cars. Yeah, he does You want to have a great time looking at cars Sean who runs out of topia as man? He has a warehouse. I bought a 96 Impala from his brother Man, Sean just has some beautiful cars. Yeah, I watch his shows. Yeah, they did my car word I have a 1969 Nova that Steve stroke built for me and they just they just played it on Autotopia I gotta find that I gotta it's preposterous car because it's a 69 It's a 69 Nova, but it's got a completely independent suspension The side of the car now has the flares of a 69 Camaro Yeah, so it's wider in the back The exhaust comes out that big giant rear Nova bumper the exhaust comes out of that. It's wild-looking cool rule works is building my 67 Firebird and I'm looking forward to that's the car look at that. Yeah Man Nova's people either love them or hate them They look like hogs to me, which is why I love them the snouts on if you hate that one move to China. Yeah Fuck off this is you that one look at that love the five-star love the flare Man that thing hey you go crazy did don't listen to hold out I've heard I said yeah, I get it tomorrow a word. Yeah, I guess delivered tomorrow. You'll fuck around make me stay a day I'm so excited. They took it for a drive. Wow, but yeah, autotopia is a fucking great show it is it is It's again the same thing. It's like I love when people love what I love like I love hearing people talk about something that I have a passion for and they're infectious about it That's why I tell people to go find people who do not look like you are not from your ethnic cultural or religious background And make friends because you'll find that you have shit in common Oh, yeah You know I mean and it helps to kind of break down some of the Prejudices and and just you know preconceived notions that we have you know that's one cool thing about hobbies brings all you know Whatever it is even careers like comedy or music yeah, Brant just brings people together like you have this one thing That's more important than anything else in your life. Yeah, and you all share it. Yeah, yeah, we just we're just all Beautifully different and yeah fucking important. That's it's good. It is good. It is it when it's homogenous. That's when chick. It's weird Yeah, North Korea North Korea Yeah, and aliens yes That's what I really worry about when people talk about alien not even whether or not they're these creatures from other dimension I'm worried that they're us in the future. That's what I'm worried really. I'm worried that that's the natural progression of the human animal I think that we went from these tiny little single-celled organisms to be these multi-cellular creatures to be creatures that live in the wild to creatures that have evolved into cities and I think we're getting weaker and smaller I agree and if we start integrating technology into human biology Heads spindly bodies everything's telekinesis. Yeah, no need to talk anymore. Holy shit That's what scares me what do you think I think this is a do-over because I think we've done it again Like when you look at the old cave carvings, that's what you see you see some kind of big-headed shit with a little like Maybe this is just a do-over. I think they've been here before for sure Yeah, yeah, if they've been here at all they've been here before no, I think they've been here before Yeah, we fucked it up before they hit reset and now we're currently fucking up the do-over Interesting. I think more likely earth is in a really bad place in terms of like asteroids We're in a it's a kind of shitty spot We're really lucky that we have Jupiter if Jupiter wasn't there we'd be doing it's so big. It's so big It's so much mass and so much gravity So what we have though is Windows of time where things are likely to happen. Yeah, and That window when when those things do happen Civilizations done yeah So either you figure out how to get to a point where you can stop that where civilization can get to a point where it Stop asteroidal impacts where it can mitigate super volcanoes and figure out all the things that kill people off That's possible that civilization one day attains that kind of power But maybe maybe it's a long fucking road. Maybe it's a long road Maybe this sort of reset thing happens many many times. We're just super comfortable with this Stage of existence that we're in we still think the supermarket is always gonna be open We still think my weed dealers always there. I can call them shots out the fire last night So I got weed last night. I walk up to the room by the time I get to the room. I've lost the weed Oh, no, so I have to call them back Oh, no, and he brings me we back and and there's a burger place that you are crazy about which one Golden Tiger That's it. Yeah, and he bought me a golden tiger burger. I only ate the meat and cheese though I didn't eat the bread that's because I would have felt guilty Coming to you is like coming to my physical fitness problem I wouldn't know I would have I would have felt I would have felt ashamed of you having eaten the bread, you know Just cut that out. Well, he's doing a lot better. I'm 47 down. I'm doing good. No, I'm happy I had a cold of cola since December 31st, you know trying to cut you out of no sugar was in so many things Said all the good shit, which is which is why which is why I've learned to just eat your meat with mustard now You shit like that. Yeah Sauces a lot of sauces. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I just like steak with salt on it. Just grill it I like it blackened and um, and I'll do a garlic butter. Yeah, sometimes do I gotta um What is it called? Oh gee, it's like pit master. Oh gee. I shake that stuff on it It's like a little bit of pepper a little bit. Yeah a little bit of garlic powder There's this guy named Brian who owned a used to be a thing called Beast crackling and of course divorce and shit happened So I don't know what happened to be crackling but Brian is about to open another restaurant. You come to the landing I let me take you. Okay. He's a he's an amazing he cooks meat. No sauce needed Das barbecue is another place that does a Brisket in Atlanta. It's very hard to get good brisket outside of Texas and the further east you go The worst it brisket gets because usually people are serving you brisket and really see the prop roast, right? I'm sorry brisket but Das barbecue in Atlanta have two locations, but they got it They got a great brisket. Mmm. So when you get me Atlanta, you just want to go to some meat restaurants Let me take okay, you know, and I don't know if you know, but this is one of my fake goddamn I don't want to even tell people but I know I can always get a table there in LA cheese Baca. Oh Yeah, cheese Baca's man. I love them and I almost wore today, but I didn't want to lose it one of the waiters Gave me a replica Braves world championship ring Big boy has a real one. So it's pretty fucking close right the Braves You're gonna give me a real and I'll take it too, but I but I've worn this ring and they got me in my they got me and Shay, um The world the 1996 Olympics glasses So when we go to chief Baca and we order our waters and stuff they come in our own personal class Oh, that's how long I've been eating that cheese bar. Wow And that's connected to the Italian places, right? Yeah. Yeah. What is that place called again? I forgot the name because I very good But that's where all the meat is prepped at the Italian place and then cheese Baca is much smaller much more than nook The other place that number other place I've eaten at once. I just forget the name of chief Spock I just because I like meats especially, you know, yeah Yeah, yeah, that's the name of it. Yeah, and then they also have next to Austria Austria Mota. They have a pizza place That's fantastic pizza place a little people that shit be lit. Oh, he lit. It's so good I don't eat that shit anymore. But what I have to feed said you still eat the meat though, right? Yeah, oh fuck So if you do if you do eat a little bread and what made me love them is they make a bone marrow pie That tastes like the old chef was right, but even now the new guys do a hell of a job It tastes exactly like my grandmother's bone marrow pie So for guys who don't know folks who don't know out there bone marrow My grandmother told me is healthy as shit for you She'd make us eat it as a kid, especially when it went in the winter I mean she don't want you to get calls and stuff but their stuff eat the marrow You just pick the marrow out the bones and man. Oh my gosh. She's amazing. I love bone marrow. Yeah Yeah, it's so good for you. It's like you just slurping it. You just your body's like yeah Yes, yeah, yeah There's some foods your body's like. Oh, give me that. Yeah, give me that I know people don't like the taste of liver You know, I like liver texture bone. I eat liver. My body's like give me that so it's who's cooking it for me. What I realized is Betty Clunts Knew what the fuck she was doing my grandpa would get sick She would do shit like put onions on his feet plastic bag socks on now I'm seeing like people charge people to tell them that in conferences and shit like that. Yeah apparently onions Because the biggest pores on your feet that whatever healing properties they have they go right into your bloodstream from your feet And they go right to where right to what needs to be healed. Yeah, I mean just look it up Yeah, so my grandma used to do some my grandpa cuz yeah, but the the liver she would fry her liver Which is why I like it fried But she would have us eat liver at different and it was like different foods for different seasons when when she thought it was you Could get sick this season. We wouldn't we knew it was gonna be more liver. Yeah, you know, so shots out the Betty man She she knew what the fuck she was doing. Yeah, and she would my grandmother was also a proponent For working in your yard and walking and shit she they said as a girl She didn't like kitchen duties which made me knew she loved the fucking shit out of me She fed the shit out of my chubby ass, right? But she would prefer working in the fields, you know I mean and they say she was just like a tomboy about it So to the day she died she worked in our own yard did her hedges and shit like that Her my grandpa would do it together sometimes but she was just she was she lived that she lived a healthier lifestyle and I understood at the time because She never stopped her body from moving. She didn't eat the same thing all year There would be times where certain things she would cut out of her diet She was just strictly eat, you know, like say greens for like a week She's the greens to kind of flush out a system Then she'd come back to meats and she had a lot of game meat again because my grandpa caught fish on it I'm trying as I'm getting older when I'm understands what I'm paying people to teach me. They kind of gave me for free So I'm trying to do more that like my grandfather with you with the elk His shit was man get him some deer meat or some fish like he wasn't really concerned We're going to he'd go to a butcher but he didn't like going to grocery stores. He wasn't being Well, the best meat that you could ever get is game meat. Yeah, it's the best meat for you It's so rich and protein. It doesn't have a lot of fat though Yeah, so if you're gonna eat only meat you've got to eat something else with that Usually bacon or I'll take beef tallow and things like that. I like the ribeye the arm What is it the cowboy ribeye? Yes, it has it has it's more marbleized. Yeah Yeah, I ain't been able to finish one in a long time though I'd usually get a half and then I'll do the other half at some point Yeah, I the next day see it's harder to get harder to get Jordan Peterson eat the whole goddamn thing I've never seen a thing like it. He yeah, he said his health got better when he went carnival Much better. Yeah, the thing that really gets you is the the mental focus and Why need that so I might do that the next two weeks while I rehearse for tour make your body essentially is running on ketones Yeah, it's it creates some glucose of its own through gluconeogenesis But apparently that actually we were reading something about it that actually might aid in your body's ability to process ketosis It's more efficient. Yeah, and it's that way but it's not the best for workouts I gotta say that it does I do feel like a little laggy For some of my workouts like a little in terms of the carnivore diet Yeah, like I feel like just there's just just a little that I feel like I'm missing Yeah, I think it's my body adapting to not having carbohydrates Yeah, I think that like a little bit of carbohydrates before workouts. It's probably advisable So what's a little like the answer says like fruit of berries fruits the best. Yeah, fruit is amazing Cuz it's like watermelon is an amazing. Oh, I'm amazing Shana gets water. No, I Can't say cuz they feel you. Yeah, they make you they make it they hydrate you and they and man They're just at any time of day. You can just wear them when it's cold. It's the most delicious thing ever Yeah, if they were very like really rare, they'd be so valuable Yeah, like if you get it you know, we're gonna have watermelons. Yeah, like black folks That's another black people thing when you people like insult people do I that's not an insult people call me cool It's not insult because I know raccoons will fucking murder your dog and when you make watermelon jokes I don't give a shit because water watermelon is and yellow you yellow meat watermelon. Yeah, so my grandpa would yeah, man Those are they're actually sweeter. Yeah. Oh, I like honeydews. I like all that. I the honeydew eat cantalones Yeah, cantalones. Oh my god. Have you ever eaten a grape like a muscan down or scuffing down? But so it they're called muscan down muscan dimes or scuffing dimes here They are great that grows in the southeast you can eat so many your mouth starts itching and they're so good You don't give a fuck you keep eating them. Yeah, your mouth. Yeah, my grandmother would make you see him there They go. Yep, the muskin huge. Yep. My grandmother would make Wines out of them, but as kids you'd pop that they're got a tougher skin than most grapes You pop them off and you you eat the minimum, but they're super sweet just naturally sweet and they're great out I'll actually when muskin season comes around I'll get some and just ship some out to you But they're absolutely get some get some of those in your life Do you know when bear hunters hunt bear one of the things they want to do is hunt bear over blueberries? No, when black bears are eating blueberries, they'll gorge them for days at a time And just sister and their fat will be like blueberry colored fat. Oh, wow and their meat tastes sweet They say it's like an unbelievably delicious meat I found with a lot of meats once you stop eating sweet shit, you taste the sweetness in me Yeah, well you take it's just like your body becomes accustomed to eating what it eats and your gut flora reflects that So when you get really hungry if you're used to eating a lot of carbohydrates, especially When you get if you still eating a lot of junk food, your body wants more. It just wants it in there Yeah, and also it's confused. Yeah, you guys are why is there so much sugar? Yeah, there's nothing attached to it There's no nutrients and vitamins like what the fuck is this? We've got to keep eating because we're not getting what we want Oh, yeah, and then there's the sugar rush then there's a fucking insulin spike. There's so much bad about eating crap and When you just eat healthy food, particularly you have like very protein rich diets or something about protein that is a high level of Satiety so when you eat it if you're just eating a lot of protein your body just you you get full quicker You're just cool. Yeah, but it's like I just deal with it Yeah, whereas with me with carbohydrates like especially something like pizza. I will fucking gorge myself pizza I'll eat a whole fucking pizza a whole large pizza. Hey, you're the lauya. It's kind of in the blood It's like it's it's horrible every now and then I'll go and I'll go off the rails It's like not trying to eat cornbread in your southern cornbread is going to get eaten at some point in the year Yeah at some point it's delicious. Yeah, how do you know? You know, it's just not good to be the primary part of your day. Yeah, you can't have cornbread every day Yeah, I mean just a lot of things that people eat It's like that bear the reason why that bear is so delicious because it is what it eats Yeah, and it was eating blueberries and if you could apply that to your own mind Like it's just think about what you are as a human Well, you literally are what you eat if you eat Takis all day if you're into those like spicy chips And if you're eating fucking Doritos and bullshit and ding-dongs and fucking, you know Ho-hos like that. Those are not good for you at all. Yeah, I've never said well, I've seen guys eat hoes, but not ho-hos so oh my god, I Don't know what a ho-ho is I've heard northern to say like these little cakes or something other so good Dude, the ho-ho-ho if you have one right here, we'd both be going off. Come on. I'll show you they're good There's a reason why they're so popular. They're just loaded with sugar and there's chocolate and a little cream in the middle Let's stop. Oh That's a ho-ho dude. Look at that thing. It does look like oh my god, you're great. That's the ball heaven It's heaven if you bite into that and you're stoned Oh my gets worse it whatever it's gonna give me the little Debbie oatmeal pie is is that that's that's a that's an Achilles Hill for me. That's a good one. Yeah, that's the one they try to say the little Debbie's is just like That bitch is evil. God bless us. Oh There it is right there now they may come in the doubles. I'm like this isn't right. That's a murderous Combination, that's good. That's good. They are that's so good. Yeah, see but that's why let's get the drugs off the screen Jamie, I mean, it's not like everybody's eating them and they taste like Brussels sprouts, right? Everybody's eating them cuz they're amazing They managed to make Brussels sprouts taste better though. I'll say they put bacon in that shit. That's what they did So they were home it changed change what Brussels sprouts is they were when I was a kid Brussels sprouts were nasty We would boil them my parents would make me eat them. We used. Oh, man. We used to call the white people food Grandma pop up like we're gonna have Brussels sprouts like man. Can we just have collard greens? Oh, look at this It's not that you've grown up with more sophisticated tastes It's the Brussels sprouts that have changed scientists in the Netherlands tinkered with them making the sprouts bitter No longer national public radio reports that the sprouts began to change in the 1990s Wow Yeah, but they don't taste as horrible as they did when I was a kid I wonder if they're like 50% less good for you. Let's see like one of that bitterness is actually good for you I think it was sulfur sulfur. Oh, it was sulfur that made it better. Oh for so once a year We used to have to take four mosquitoes my grandmother would put a teaspoon like the tip of a teaspoon of Sulfur and she pour the rest of the teaspoon of honey And you'd have to eat like right at the beginning and probably like maybe in the middle of summer You have to eat the sulfur and honey because it make mosquitoes. They wouldn't want it You know, that was her theory is sulfur bad for you though I don't think it's good for you, but she only give you like that much says sulfur is responsible for the bitter sprout taste as we age We lose taste buds which can make them even more and more palatable Potentially what adults who hated sprouts as children now embrace them in seasonal dishes What's more frosty weather converts bitter starches into sugars leading to sweeter tasting sprouts hence the logic behind Grandparents remarking that they won't eat sprouts until the first frost interesting sprouts contain a chemical similar to Who want to try that one? Phenol thio Carbomide Phenol thio carbomide way to go only tastes bitter to people who have a variation of a certain gene. Oh Wow Around 50% of the world's population have a mutation on this gene the lucky half don't taste the bitterness Usually associated with sprouts and therefore like them a whole lot more than everyone else that completely makes sense Absolutely, cuz you know out of my kids one of my kids hate spicy food She doesn't want anything spicy neither the other one will fuck around with Reapers. My youngest has to my pepper But yes, I get this senior lechuga sauce that has Reapers in it. It's Delicious, but it's fucking hot man. And this 13 year old kids fucking around with that Yeah, put another chicken wings neat and I was like that is crazy It reminds me there's a there's a thing called cha-cha That's made out of peppers in the south and they put it on their collards or their turnip greens And I just I just never like a mile cha-cha could go for hmm But the hotter ones that are not and they're women who like just make them my grandmother's friend used to make them as Maddy But that shit's too fucking my sisters could eat them. It was too much for me I always wonder like what is what does someone else tasting like what do you know? I don't know what you're tasting something is too hot. I'm not take that's the thing for me Like my tongue goes into panic mode. Yeah, I never get to taste it It's just even if I have something too spicy like at the beginning when I go like Mexican restaurant like an authentic restaurant And I'll hit something. It's just too hot. Yeah Indian restaurants, too I have to chill the fuck out half to dinner Let me let me restore my tongue just goes in the panic mode There used to be a chilly place in LA called chilly my soul Yeah, and it was just a chilly specialist place that guy was like a real chilly connoisseur Yeah, and they would have it in levels like Scoville levels Yeah And it would get up to this ten and he said that these Sherpas came in and they were eating the chili and they were Pouring more hot sauce on the ten He said he couldn't fucking believe it when they give it to you they give it to you in like when them little tiny ice cream Tasty ups the tiniest little cup and that's how much chili they give you when you try it They're like just try it before you order it and it's so hot But I think there's people that have like different natural levels of enjoyment of spicy food and I've got like a medium high level Yeah, but then there's guys like that have a high level and then ridiculous the Sherpas pouring the hot sauce on I'm super low the super low yeah Yeah, god, yeah, that was the spot So you see that one that says Veggipotle that's a nine that one will fuck you up I mean that well, there's a demon that's a ten your 13 year old can eat. Yeah. Well, no Oh, they make you sign a way I say she's a gangster. No, they made you sign a waiver That's that's too hot my 13 year old can fuck around with that Reaper's like senior lechugas sauce Which is hot but not preposterous. It's delicious, but hot I've noticed though that people who go hotter with peppers. They don't hold away this much Mmm, like they say that they seem to get to the bathroom. It's all right back out You know It's probably got subcutta in effect and it probably good My thing with hot foods for me is they go in and come out hot to us. Yeah, it hurts both ways Yeah, my assholes used to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah my assholes ain't used too much, you know My assholes used to shit a lot though. I've come to realize it's probably reason even though. I'm a fact Relatively healthy like that's good. Yeah, I'm in there a few times daily I got scared when people say they haven't shit that scares the shit out of me Yeah, that's scared like I'm just like you don't sit on you into a doctor like what's going on, man? Yeah Yeah, I said all the time. Yeah, gotta let it go. Don't hold it, bro No pepper you to be a stepper no holding it. Yeah, that's it's you know, people get stuck up I had a friend of mine who had to get an operation His asshole got like clogged up and they had to go in there with like a device and pull shit out of his asshole in Hospital was he just not drinking enough water? I don't know. I wish I knew my sister almost died doing Coachella Scared the shit out of me a couple years ago because there was something stuck in it It's like her intestines had turned so thank God for overseeing my sister Leshonda We got her home, but they they you know, we she was she was locked for but in my friend rock D the guy who? Wrote the record kryptonite brought the big boy. He had An issue that he lost the gang weight looks healthier shit now But it that scared the shit out of me and it made me start taking my gut health a little more seriously So I got on the probiotic shit and all this other shit and shaowin and got for him I'm just like keep shitting two three times a day, sir You know, yeah, don't go a day without it cuz you know, you don't want to lose you don't want that's like If the one thing that would motivate you the most for everybody is a health scare That's the thing that mo that's in the thing that wakes people up, but you don't want to have to get there Yeah, but for some reason sometimes we need like someone near us or something like that to make us go. Okay. Okay Let me get up in the morning drink this warm little water, you know Yeah, let me let me let me let me get in this little three mile walk at nine in the morning and I wait to eat So one o'clock don't yell like all that kind of shit that I've incorporated came from I My sister could have died fight. Yeah, I mean get on your shit, bro. Get on your shit Yeah, cuz we have one shot at this life. I think yeah, and I don't know if anything's after so I'm gonna try to have All the fun I can hear what do you think happens? Well, I think energy doesn't die, but I don't know if you're gonna know who you were in that I don't need to well, I would like to just cuz I miss my mom, you know I wrote the song motherless that's on Michael A lot of people have you know played in a cry to hit me on Twitter I just miss her and I would like for her to know that Her and my grandmother, you know, it's my mama did my grandmama did so I'll start the record I'd never said that I cried in the booth, you know wrapping it and um Just cuz I wanted to be proud, you know, I wanted her to know it worked. That's beautiful So I that's beautiful so I could get that what you would want if you do die to know who you were Yeah, well, you know, but but it's not required because it's getting being raised in the Christian philosophy Like my grandmother told me, you know, she says, you know in the next life You don't remember you know You're not gonna know if you get a chance to go to heaven Because all the trauma and all that shit would come with you and that's not supposed to be there But but it'd be it'd be nice to you know, it'd be nice to yeah carry the good memories I just wonder what that is when we think of ourselves if we are this temporary thing we think of ourselves in terms of like our Our life we live our friends our behavior or this or that but we're just this thing That's like carrying itself through this dimension. Yeah one day. This is this physical thing that's carrying you around. It's not gonna work anymore That's gonna shut off. Yeah, hundred percent. Yeah Well, you know, there's some crazy new technology that gets invented in our time that reverses aging which they're working on Yeah, I've no then then what are you gonna do? Then you have a overpopulation problem? Yes, no one's dying. That's that's a real issue Well, I think the poor people still be talking at least for the first 50 years of the technology. It'll be like cell phones Yeah, we ain't rich. Well, you are you cuz you yeah your contracts live better than mine Not that I have a bad one, but you just tell me you're a millionaire. I am but I'm not a hundred millionaire No millionaires aren't rich No, no, I feel rich but it's in rich, you know, so there's a record call in rich on my album, right? And it means Negro rich, it was that mean a bad tax season a couple lawsuits to mean the kids I could be back to working at Donald's all so You would be fantastic at it you are so good at speaking you're so good at speaking publicly You know in the the few times that I've seen you speak on political issues and social issues when you speak publicly You're brilliant at it. You're brilliant at it. Thank you. You're a great conversationalist You're a kind person. Absolutely. You want it? And that's very very that's very important for a person like yourself Especially that has so much influence be a kind person. Yeah, it's you can do it. You may be close to say be nice Be nice be nice. Ah, she was she was a mean heifer in her day though. My grandma She would tell this story Joe of how there was this arm. There was this pretty girl who went to school with him, you know You know Dress the girl had the dress yet, you know hair press every day My grandmother says it in that heifer gonna step on my foot and not say excuse me I pulled all the hair out it I was just like, you know, I was just like whoa You were you were quite the little wild witch in your day Don't we need those back then people were more inclined to like getting fights? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely But my sister told me after she died her sister say that girl wasn't doing under bedding that girl Was just walking my home business and Betty Betty stood behind that door. So that girl hit her and so my grandmother Apparently had been such a meaning in her life that by the time she got old enough and wise enough to raise us She would just tell me and my sister stuff like that be nice because she had been mean. Yeah, she learned the lesson She probably had some bad feelings about it. Yeah, she did and she's man. She was such a great. She ended up being a nurse Taking care of a lot of people in the last days of their life You know even after some people I can remember people like miss Hayes and running out of money and my grandmother never stopped going She never stopped taking care of that woman after her husband. Mr. Hayes had died I was just like this she would take us to the old folk homes of Sadie Mays and Sundays as children she'd make us go speak to people greet them She'd help the nurses change bed pants and stuff and I think that she realized at some point in her life That what was more important was for her helping her fellow human being in her neighborhood Helping her fellow human being in her neighbor versus you know being mad because someone had slightly more than her Well, that's just life though, right learned lessons in life and acquired wisdom Yeah, yeah and trying to pass it on to your kids so they get to skip a couple steps That's what I realized that that ultimately she was teaching me and my sisters Like yes, like gets past the point of lusting like comparison is a thief of joy something I learned for watching her She never allowed us to figure it out. Yeah, she did. Yeah her and my grandpa. That's beautiful That's a different world back then man. Yeah Think about it. My my grandfather would have saw her life and thought she was rich Yeah, because they her parents got a 30 acre farm. Yeah, they you know, he's he's on Shit, he's in a Lumber company at eight, you know, my you know, she said to me eight years old eight at a lumber company He was the first person to tell me Um bread has sawmill and I'm just like what you're talking about granddad He was like the shavings from what they put in them just like get the fuck out of here. Then sometime at some point Yoga mats are in subway food. You find out that there's something artificial that's making the bread, right? And all he was saying was they're putting shit in your food That's bad for you. It's not real, you know, this is 80. This is 83 84. He's saying that to us What was that yoga mat thing? Was it just a chemical that uses a preservative? Yeah, it's also used in yoga messages But you know He was letting me know that an industrial food is not right Which is why he would eat when when he ate say a guy me to stuff He'd ask my grandmother make cornbread or he or he'd eat. Yeah, he ate a lot of wheat bread He didn't eat a lot of white bread at all. But I guess man, they just at some point this shit's been figured out long before people were charging us for the information Well, it's also people who lived a certain way before that Well, they didn't eat any preservatives and they didn't eat any bullshit and there was no herbicides that were sprayed all over everything They well, they did have ddt back then that was a giant issue, man They fucking they used ddt to protect people from insects And the you know back when they didn't know the ddt was like super fucking toxic killing everybody god damn Do you know they still use that shit in india? No. Yes over food I don't know what they spray it on but apparently people still get see see if you can find it if that's true I was reading about it ddt was horrible. Yeah scary shit, man Like every now and then they'll fuck up and do something like that What's up with round up that you were telling me about the chemical that gets sprayed on our vegetables? Well, it's it's not just that it's that corn has been genetically modified in order to survive roundup Yeah, and so they spray it on everything. It just nukes everything but the corn But that's just the tip of the iceberg You know the the spraying of these things on golf courses and it gets in a water supply I knew a dude who everyone in his neighborhood got cancer Damn, he had to get his bone and his thigh replaced with like this titanium rod because he had bone cancer in his thigh It was explained to me that it was the runoff from the golf course because you gotta think to keep those golf courses That green they gotta spray all kinds of shit in it and it got into people's water supply. Damn That's terrifying man. That's terrifying. You're getting poisoned By the water if you're next to a golf course, you're not in a poor neighborhood No, no, that's what you're thinking. You're thinking about middle class lord lord upper middle class neighborhoods That's crazy. Just got fucked by this It's a very unnatural ecosystem. Like why is there grass everywhere? Like that's kind of crazy. Wow Mike you gotta get the fuck out of here. You're getting blown up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I was cool. That was just that there was um There was something I wrote as a note to think about that i'll pull up but it was it was a similar thing No, i'm cool. I mean i'm joe rogan. So Fuck am I gonna do? I just i'm so addicted to my phone when I see people reaching for their phone I know it I get the pull. Nah, i'm straight, bro. We're good I'm actually i'm reaching for the more important thing the joint and the rick flare Yeah, we got woo choos Who would have thought that rick flare one day would have his own weed brand deserved it. Yeah, shout out to me I only wish dusty rolls was still alive. They to me rick always says that jimmy snooker Um was his greatest opponent. I disagree with him on that. It was dust because they to me they were the The um the opposites that america needed in the 80s It was the son of a plumber you put hard ties on dusty rolls to the leader of the four horsemen High fly style and you know, I mean it was to me. There were the the two greatest examples for american male I didn't even follow pro wrestling Like when I was 15 16 rick flare was popping but I still loved rick flare Yeah, like whenever rick flare made it like where were the years that he made it? Everybody knew oh man, you're talking about the early 80s to the early 90s. It was all flake It was all flare. This is them in the 80s. I didn't know they were doing this. Look at dust. Look at the day Look at the hair The hair was amazing Bro how many times did he get slammed like that? Come on. I'll make so life after a plane crash and a broken back. Yeah, insane And dust was to me that the equivalent of him from the working man's perspective a shit talker. Look at look at dust. Yeah Bro, we had rick flare on the podcast And he was just telling us about the road stories about going into these small towns and performing and getting drunk and picking up all the Ladies come on, man. He was hilarious. Come on, man. He was hilarious. You gotta love it But the hard time speech that dusty rose gave every man Man, lord if you want to be motivated listen to that speech before before you do whatever the fuck you do What is it? It's called a hard time speech that um Rick that it was a match set up and the four horsemen that jumped on dusty rose, you know as a kid You're invested emotionally into it. You know what I'm saying? And it does just gave this powerful speech you put up look at him. He's in a fucking polo tie B. S. Denim on though. Yes, let's just look at this shit I would like to thank the many many fans throughout this country That rope caught the letter just to roll the american dream. Okay I was down Secondly, I want to thank jim clarkett promotions for waiting and taking the time because I know how important it was Listen to those fans. They're rapping. Look at the jim clarkett promotions master of the american dream With that weight Got what I wanted. Okay, rick flair the world's heavyweight champion Talk about it. I don't have to say a lot more about the way I feel about rick flair How you feel dust? No respect no auto A lot of thieves in the first place tell them now Come on if you gotta overcome something what's hard time though? Style workers around this cut dress I out of work and got four or five kids and can't pay their wages can't buy their food. Come on Oh And they tell them go home and hard times Are when a man has worked for the job 30 years and what they do what they do what they do And tell them give him the butt and say hey a computer took your place that come on, man Y'all think talk about a.s. Come on, man. Listen to that shit in the morning And rick flair you put hard times on this country by taking dusty roads out That's hard time. That's it. Jamie. We could cut it. Come on, Jamie. Jamie. Look at you smiling, man You look like you feel good, man. Like you can overcome it all man. That's an amazing speech. That's an amazing speech That's amazing speech. That's the very best aspect of pro wrestling. Absolutely. That's to me. That's the theater You know, that's the beauty of it executed to perfection perfection Yeah, and everybody can do it. Yeah, and it resonates with people. Yeah, what about those people? This is in the 80s where I remember when hall still left my grandpa used to work for my other grandpa My dad all of a sudden had to start working another job. Like when when we start losing jobs, you know When car companies start saying well, we'll go to this country's cheaper man people in america fell on hard times. Yes 100 and that's where uh, where's roger? Roger and me. Yeah, roger and me. Yeah that um, that was michael. That was michael, right? Yes, michael mohr. Yeah It's an amazing doc part part of my aspiration. We're doing trigger warning was michael mohr It's an amazing documentary because it just it shows you the the direct effects Of pulling those jobs out and it was instantaneous It was like the the bottom came out of the swimming pool and all the water just went away like what the fuck And you just left people to their own devices. Yep, and these people were and it's just for money It's just for money. It could it could have stayed in the united states I wanted to increase profit margin and they did you know and they killed the unions They I mean there was they didn't kill the unions, but they weakened them significantly What they had going on there was great wages and great programs and they had Plenty of money and it was a good job to get yeah, I had friends that were in the union that that worked in My friend justin He uh, I forget which company he worked for but some american company Yeah, he said that there's a lot of these guys that were like these union guys like they were sitting high on the hog And they wanted to keep that going and they wanted to make a lot of money and the auto company was like nope I think we're just going to go to mexico. Yep And that is a wild decision It's a wild decision to make whatever more money, but to know that you're going to destroy a city And you know, how did they let them do that? And you you know it's There's some complexities that have gotten older I understand too because at that time you have japanese cars on the rise And they've learned how to make a cheaper car. Yeah, they've learned how to make a very reliable and and efficient They're making 20 years. You know what I mean? Yeah, and so they had to be competitive You know americans were used to buying cars every two to four years because they felt like it You know what i'm saying? And and all of a sudden that's got me on my uncle worked it for the city It was a garbage truck driver About brand new callec every two to three years if you wanted to that so, you know There's always a balance of now people are invested. You got investors want greater returns. It's it wasn't just I don't think it was a simple. Fuck you as much as in order to stay competitive We're going to have to do the new dodge k car was a shitty. They made some terrible cars There's no doubt about it couldn't compete but by the time they got it figured out They got it figured out, but it didn't get figured out in the 80s when they needed to so it got decimated But it's just that that decision to take the companies and just shut them down there and move them to somewhere else Where you could pay people less money It doesn't just involve money. It involves like these all these people that work for you Yeah, is it supposed to be like some sort of sort of a community? Yeah, you're all where you hopefully you enjoy being around each other They're working together. You're just gonna crush all of their lives. Yeah, that's a wild decision to make It's a wild decision to make just for money And it's just one of those ones that just happened before most people were aware it was even going on And it happens in the middle of the crack era I didn't know about it at all until that documentary really I had not well, I knew something happened Yeah, Detroit crash and but I didn't know the like the real fucking horrors That those people went through when they just pulled the plug on it like that one of the most The coolest one a happiest moment I had I did a Uh commercial for Cadillac for a Cadillac V. They let me drive one for you. It was it was pretty dope It wasn't a V, but it was pretty plush. Um The daughter I mean the granddaughter of a of a assembly line worker Was the director of that department and over everything. Oh, and I and like you said, I just thought when you say community That's what made me think about it. Her grandfather Had worked the assembly line for either Cadillac or GM, which owns of course Cadillac Chevrolet Buick, Olds Pontiac had been on the assembly line. Here was his granddaughter is college educated now and running this department That's ultimately at his at his best. That's what this country can be Yeah, you know what I mean? But even when I say dodge like, you know the k-card in Did it was you know dodge was struggling leon coke? I think was over at the time he couldn't couldn't bring it home for that but shit by the time a single father Who's a black dude? Then it came time there 2009s and 10s when it came time to bring the charger back He was like we're gonna give guys a four-door muscle car And and and did it and brought like they've been dominating ever since you know what I'm saying in terms of just cool muscle cars So like cool shit. Yeah people like and I believe america That's what separates the swag shop from other barber shops the same thing that separates american cars from some other You know affordable cars like motherfuckers. Our shit is cool. Yeah, this there's undeniable coolness in that challenger the rumble with that thing I mean that thing this and there looks like a modern old super occur Model old musker and when you're 6 3 like me it's comfortable as shit Right. Yeah, yeah, it's in it just in terms of the interior of it. I drove a few years ago. GM took me Sorry, gq took me out to drive the the hellcat the mustang and the camaro Enjoyed every one of the rides. Um was most comfortable in that cat, you know ass fit See now one too tight, you know, I mean, it's just got a great amount of pickup It just feels good. Even if you don't use it It's a violent drive though. Like if you're if you're not like you and I used to muscle cars It's a it's a violent drive, you know. Yeah, it's not like the acceleration of a Subaru. No Even subros they make that w rx. Yeah thing is fast as shit But there's something about those those preposterous Look at That's a beautiful car. It's a beautiful car. I mean they fucking nailed it They really did make it looks like a modern version of a muscle car. Yep. I drove a hellcat when I did a special Oh, look at that thing I drove a hellcat in 2014. Yeah, I was in uh, denver. They let me borrow when I was filming my special Yeah, and it was I was like it's like a big gt car. That's what it's like. Yeah, it's like a big Two-door like super comfortable fat and it's all american. Yeah Funny as shit. Who knows where the parts are coming from. I get a car I had a call from my bro, man. My guy jarod sales atlanta. I got a call from g he's like, bro My man just hit me in augusta. They got one Um for this price all you got to do is is come grab it It's raining and I got a podcast to do with one of the homies seaborn from peruvian all-stars Me and shay and g uber down there. Oh, I think you know, just me and her uber down there To augusta which is like two hours away two two and a half hour uber. Yeah, we two hour uber So you're how to drive it back We went down there to pick it up took cash down there like yo, we came with the money This asshole car says like car places Please get rid of the assholes like like south atlanta Mercedes with the asshole who i'll tell you a story about later who didn't just want to say i'm sorry and apologize and lost the customer for life but We went down there said yo, this is the price you want This is what we got agreed upon the price and right at the last minute this guy Just decided he didn't want to be out negotiated by chick So he tried to add an extra like 500 000 bucks or something and she's like nope. We're not paying it And she's like, excuse me. You don't get the car. She's like, nope. We're not paying it. We're gonna pay you this much We got a call. We know you guys can't get this car off to it relatively quickly It's the end of the month. So you got to get shit with this is what we're paying and the dude's like Well, we're not gonna be up. She's like, well snow uber's gonna come get us now. We're gonna leave with this car. Who's your boss? She has them call the general manager the guy over the whole thing and she says excuse me, sir I want to give you this much money cash But this motherfucker right here is tripping over 500 hours And she looks at her and looks at the guy says give her the fucking car And we and we and we drive that motherfucker back to a man to make her I told her girl if there be a woman you got balls because I was ready to be like the fuck is 500 Right, right. She's like, no, we're not doing it. No, there's some sneaky shit. Yeah, man She was just like it on once you've already gotten. Yeah, and she was just like nah, we ain't doing it I wanted the car so bad, you know, I said, I'm just a car. I give a fuck You know, I get it but it's just dealing with a person like that that does that That's that funny scene in Fargo when there's always trying to upcharge. Yeah Yeah That was such a great movie. That was a great fucking movie But that's just the weird thing about people when they're that's their job. Their job is to sell you shit Yeah, they try that's what they're trying to do trying to bullshit you and sell you some shit So I give you the south Atlanta Mercedes shit. So I go I take her s550 down there. Should we blow this up like this? Yeah, I mean yeah, because the dude's a fucking asshole I'm not gonna name his fucking name, but the guy who's over the whole department is it's amazing He was he was cool as fuck, but there's this guy so I go in my last name is render Which is a very rare last name. It's not a not a lot Usually if you he say render within the southeast date, we're related in some capacity So I had called him and say hey how much for this give me an estimate? I'll see if i'll do it They when I that when I got down to the estimate that they told me was radically different like double or triple I'm like this what the fuck you told you don't you were talking about five six grand This motherfucker talking about 14 grand or something. This doesn't make any sense, right? um The guy says I told the lady I said there has to be some mistake Let's figure it out. So the guy comes from the back and he's total total like I was a sucker in high school. So now I got a tattoo sleeve I got I got a funky haircut and and now i'm just a fucking man type guy I'm just like yeah, i'm like there's something should be sometime. Oh, there's no mistake I'm like, excuse me. I'm like, i'm like, hold on. Why are you talking loud? Timmy don't do that You know what I mean? And we we we end up he's like i'm gonna show you and you're gonna have to pay and i'm just like No, this is there's a mistake here. So whoever was there their name was shay. S-h-a-e My wife's name is s-h-a-y uh When they put her in the in terms of her name's actually shane s-h-a-n-a but s-h-a-y is how they put her in there and i'm just like After going back and forth this motherfucker for like eight minutes. I looked I said Motherfucker that's not my wife. What the fuck you talking about? This is her And he looks at me and it just drains out of his face. You can see he's like, oh I fucked up I've accused the customer of lying. I would have been doubled. I'm sorry He doesn't have the respect to say I apologize And and literally just shake my hand Doesn't have the respect to do that So I told them when I went back and talked to the guy who ran the auto department. I say man, you've been great I'll I'll never use you guys again and i'm and i'm going to I plan on buying a Mercedes and i'll I'll never buy from here. I drive 40 minutes north to buckethead and i'll buy it from another dealership Whoa, just i'll never shut there and if I come back and that guy's fired, he's gone, you know, i'll reconsider So when I go back home i'll go peek in. Are you still here? Nope You know just because you got it. You can't you can't do that, man You can't you poor customer service when I talk to him to my employees raising his voice and me I'm just like bro, like don't do that. You know, like I don't even know what's going on. Yeah Shouldn't he initially say is this you? Or let's just go to my office and get this thing figured out, right? But imagine just that showing you that you would look right out and go no And that you would be done. That would have been it that would be instant. That would have been it But people want to be right. Yeah, that's the problem with online shit sometimes, you know, so just like 100% Yeah, people want to they like to fight. Yeah, they want to be right Well people like to people like to talk people don't like to fight for real No, no, I was just in the hotel in new york and a guy was I was just like the guys Wanted to fight and i'm just like you don't want to fight like first I can fight a little But the little I can't fight i'm gonna take this thumb And I want to put it in your eye And you're not going to have an eye the rest of your life Because you're gonna want to walk up to me and you're gonna want to talk shit I'm gonna feign like i'm afraid and i'm gonna put my thumb right in your eye Until I touch the back of your skull and you're not going to have an eye because that's how I fight He was a security guard and he was he attempted to say something. I said you're lying Don't lie to me. I've I've only stayed in this place the last decade. I've spent over a quarter million dollars staying here Don't don't do that. Don't lie to me, you know, just go get me someone who can accommodate me But you know it turned into a well, he thought it was a yelling match. I was telling my customer I said if you hit me now i'm gonna sue the hotel But if you walk up to me and get within these many inches i'm gonna feign And i'm gonna put my thumb through your fucking eye. That's that's for real. That's anywhere in the world So just know when you run up on me trying to fight you you might leave atlas because i'm not going to fight you Not gonna fight you Yeah, don't fight people. Yeah, don't fight. Don't yeah, don't invite the fight if you want to fight Go do what i'm gonna do when I go on go join a jujitsu class, you know Get slammed on your back by someone who knows what the fuck they're doing But on the street fight, there are no rules. I'm not gonna i'm not fucking boxing you I'm not letting you get your arm around my neck I'm going to go for the softest weakest point on your body if I have a blade on me I'm going to stab you in your throat And you're going to have to figure out how to stop that artery from bleeding, but i'm not fighting you I stopped that fighting shit in high school Yeah, yeah, and you're not trying to fight anyway listen i'm not fighting yeah, fuck trying to fight Yeah, I don't want to fight. I want to smoke marijuana Go see the wonderful ladies of the blue flame with my lady. I want to drive muscle cars I am not into having who's got the biggest dick contest in our 40s. Nope beautiful That way if someone does want to fight you it's 100 them. Yeah, it's not me. It's not me But if you get within my striking distance Yeah, i'm not gonna i'm not gonna let you hit me People are dangerous. I'll never know what people are gonna do. Yeah, I have that situation with dave in l.a Yeah, the guy ran up on stage. Yeah, we're not gonna do that Guy ran up on stage with me in south by southwest me and lp. That's when I first tore my First rotator cuff tear the guy was schizophrenic god bless his soul homeless guy, you know But man, you got to be prepared mickey. Um, such a vlog carry trainer on um Mick mic has a podcast i'm jumping on too But mic talks about that all the time and he puts it up on his page just situational awareness Next thing to do is just get the fuck out of there Yeah, like I would say like when a dude kind of walked from like yo, what the fuck? I won't start laughing step back. What the fuck this dude doing? Let this elevator come Let me get the fuck out of here Because you know, I mean, I don't want to you know, i'm not gonna add if you look at a lion a lion before a lion As long as he's a human coming. Oh, let me get the fuck out of here. Human is a smaller week or whatever They don't even get the fuck out of it. I've heard they killed some shit and get the fuck out of here But but but if pressed it's gonna come out that corner fighting. So yeah, hence raccoons kick dog's asses Black people shouldn't keep using that as an insult to one another raccoons are pretty gnarly the craziest thing is watching badgers fight off wolves They fight off everybody everybody can fuck off. Yeah those little things. They're low and mean they're crazy. That's a wild Which college has the badgerism? What's your name? Wisconsin Wisconsin? Badger he's a busy man. This is just Don't get old and mean like sotty man. Don't do that. Don't turn. What's that about man? What the fuck? That makes me sad when you have a hoary wife though You know, you know wives and children can drive can drive can drive good kings mad, man. Yeah, god bless man. Yeah, it's true It definitely can happen. Your life is in a shambles I mean if you read the bible is a pretty interesting book the first half man when it talks about the kings and their wonderful Women you look at king david is one for Bathsheba Set the man to the front lines to die, you know And it's been throughout history But we've been involved in those kind of situations the wrong person in your life. I actually think that's what Parts of the bible are about again. I'm not a believer in even Abrahamic religion when I was raised So i'm trying to take lesson what I learned a lot of that shit was just about bro. Yeah It gets crazy bro You know what i'm saying? Yes, crazy. That's a their version of it gets crazy. It's crazy, bro Think about what you're doing to learn. Yeah, be careful what you ask for bro. You wanted her bro Yeah, you know your first child is gonna die With her, you know her, you know, it's like goddamn, you know But you get you get an amazing talent kid out of it too You get to redeem it all but god's gonna let you feel it a little How much would you pay to been there when they first started writing that stuff down? Try to figure out what did you know? Where are you getting these stories? I just would have liked to inject a man Can we keep can we you know, can we make sure africa? It you know, we could talk more about the black folks, you know, that's all I would have just been like yeah in there, yeah, I think yeah, like bro like come on You know we were there like not only there you know, you you know Ethiopia samalia Kenya all these like you know all this shit once was just nubia even before it was called Egypt lights like over like like a lot of this shit is based on like why did the 10 commandments sound eerily like these these? These affirmations from Egypt like what like what you know, I would have um, I would have said but you know, man You I gotta just say man to western society Propaganda man. Y'all have mastered this shit. Yo, whoever the fuck, you know what I'm saying? When the church decided yo Blacks and jewish people man, they're like animals. You can enslave them and fern and nimzabela was like fuck it Let's run this shit. Y'all propaganda campaign been mean man and not because it necessarily Subjugated people like me to brute the brutality of slavery and shit like that it convinced poor white people That we're good for you The the one of the most brutal things about not wanting to know true and factual history is you don't understand how you're being Fucked over too It's like if you look at the word cracker Cracker is not something that black people made up. I used to think you know, when you were young you would hear it means whipcracker You know, it wasn't it was a derogatory term that People in the United Kingdom used for country or slower white folks crackers and gypsies gypsies were the people known to populate upper Georgia, lower Tennessee Alabama places like that date the redneck was also one of the terms we didn't make these terms up These terms came from the master class or what they would call the planner class who used poor white people And when too many Tim Wise talked about this when too many poor white people and black people who were Seen as equals at one point kind of united and had a few rebellions. They were like, no, we gotta put into this shit You know, so I would just say man I wish that whoever was writing the Bible or remixing it would have put a little more Commonality in there so you wouldn't get all this weird funky division and the master still kind of rule us all You know, it's still always the people that are in charge. Yeah, disseminating that information Initially and they're always they always have some sort of an interest in Framing it in a way that suits them the best like even in the foundation of the country all men are created equal Yeah, so what they had to do to justify that is to say that black men are three-fifths of the man Yeah, so they're literally putting it into yeah the way they structure the country Yeah, and it was it there was an economic incentive to do it, you know Yes, and and and that doesn't make it right, but it helps my community understand that the shit's about money and why they did it But why did the church do it? It's just you gotta think about that though before we get to America Yeah, and I guess the church the Catholic Church at one point says We can go ahead and tell everybody all human beings are equal. Let's stop bullshit but instead they choose to say Jews and black people are different and Ferdinand and Isabella and Portugal and say well fuck it It's all and you just transatlantic slave trade starts So my thing is getting back to why was the Bible written like that gets back to so why would the church allow that and then You get to ask what the church allowed that then why aren't they included in there, you know and and beyond who's the bad guy? What empires in Africa are we not talking about what Kings have we not talked about what great and glory? Cuz the Greeks looked at Africans like they were gods Yes, they look these motherfucker these are the illest motherfuckers on earth Whoever was there during the construction of the pyramids has created the most insane structures the world's ever known Cal Volney says and they made him attractive, but he said of ruins of empires He said it is obvious to me that the people we now subjugate to slavery these dark-haired Kinky kinky kinky hair these dark kinky hair people were once the rulers and builders they put this shit here He said that he was an orientalist which were people who were sent out of their countries That's it, you know to go study Asia Eastern African shit This motherfucker standing there like the motherfuckers they built this shit Somehow we subjugate the slavery when people say, you know, if you were smart enough to build that how could you be made a slave? Genghis Khan one particularly smart He was violent and brutal and a lot of times the people who won have been the most violent and brutal Well, Genghis Khan was both but yeah, he was he was both violent brutal and very intelligent But just intelligence or a military way. Yes, okay tactically. No, no, but I'm gonna be odd military Like what is he what did he build? Oh, there was no building, but that's what I'm saying Yeah, but it was just figuring out how to destroy Empire. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's yes That's not the same though. It's building an empire. You get what I'm saying? No, it's definitely it's definitely not the same Yeah, it doesn't it you know I can I know some gang leaders that that are comparable to war generals, right? But the question becomes who are the people that are going to build the next Empire? And I think that that's where the danger in the old world of when the church was really government a church conspiring with warlords For certain things to be destroyed so they can then come and assume control Oh, you know because ultimately even the most brutal people don't end up winning the most shrewd people do that That small circle of brilliant motherfuckers that know how to control like, you know beyond Genghis who were his advisors Who profited most from it? You know I'm saying he was famous for Capturing armies and incorporating their generals. Yeah, that's he would you know, and if someone tried to surrender He would just kill them because he would say well, what are you gonna do with me? Like why would I do that? Oh shit, so they would say I've surrendered I've come I'm coming to you and even though Oh really? Well, I'm gonna fucking kill you because you have no loyalty. Oh, oh, but he would take over Like it with certain generals and certain he would it would bring them in and just accept them He was completely open to any religion. He goes. I don't give a he was brilliant for what your religion is brilliant You could be you could be whatever you want. We're here to fuck people up Yeah, okay and fuck cuz apparently he left a lot of descendants. Oh my god Yeah, they're like one of us three halves gang is calling blood in our body. It's fairly. It's something crazy like that We've talked about it many times and I always forget what the percentages my sister Rob is hitting me I think we got ten minutes. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Mike you're the man. I love you brother. I love you too. You know that all right. Thanks for that You're brilliant. Your new album's incredible. Yeah.