Who Is Really Running Things? | Joe Rogan & Alex Jones

that were undeniable. They were experiencing very vividly the same things. So, the government's obviously obsessed with this, and isn't worried about- But here's the problem. Here's the problem. That term, the government. Are you talking about the post office? I know. I'm not talking about the DMV. I'm not talking about police officers down the street. Are you talking about the fire department? I'm talking about the real ruling technotronic. But who are these people? I think the government is a shitty term. I know who they are. Okay, but that term, the problem with that term is it lumps you into like, you know that Mel Gibson movie conspiracy theory, where a wacky dude was driving a cab and believed in fucking tinfoil hat type shit? Because he'd been tortured. Yes, exactly. He'd be departmentalized. Yes, but that kind of stuff, when you say the government is doing it, like who is doing this? Who's working on these experiences? Well, you don't have to say names. No, no. Joe, here's the thing. Is it the NFL? There's obviously- Okay, maybe you want to say the government's because it paints a broad brush. I'll tell you who. I'll tell you who. No, you're right. It's dumb to say the government, and the big question is who runs things. That's a smart question. That's the thing is they, when everybody says they don't want you to know. Do you remember that fucking guy who was ripping people off like weight loss secrets that they don't want you to know? Kevin Trudeau. Kevin Trudeau, and they put him in jail for that. He's in jail right now because he won't give up the money because he's got a pile of cash somewhere, and he said he would do that. I think they said they would give him time off. You know, Kevin Trudeau, I think, is a con man. I've met him a few times. Very manipulative, but I think he has a right to say health care cures or natural cures I don't want you to know about. There are some. There are some. The point is they don't. Look, I have some love in my heart for Kevin Trudeau because he started the international pool tour. He was putting a lot of money in a professional pool. Yeah, but I mean, here's the oxy cotton company. The documents came out, said we're going to totally addict people and then we're going to sell them drugs to get off of it. Yes. That's pure freaking evil. So lock their ass up and then we'll get to Kevin Trudeau later. I agree with you. And I'm not even defending Kevin Trudeau because I met with Kevin Trudeau a few times. I didn't know all about him, and I was like, he was 100% about him in a one-way freaking street. Well, I didn't get that experience with him. Me and him just talked about pool. I was doing some stuff with him when he was first starting the pool tour. I came to a couple of his events. But he, that they, this thing they, is like... You always have a good way of asking questions. Instead of saying who runs it all, you wait till I do the cliche of the government. And then you correct me. What I'm doing is playing devil's advocate and I'm also looking at it from the perspective of people. Well, actually, there are five hours. Actually, Eddie's coming. Let's do another hour and get out of here. Okay. Listen, let... John, Eddie, did you come at two? No, no, no, not yet. Do you want him to come at two instead of 130? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever you want. I'm going to text him right now. Anyways, let me try to be clear, Joe. I'm having a good time with you. I just want you to know this. Let me try to be clear. I can't say all of this on air. Okay. Okay. And I'm going to leave it at that. But I'm on record 20 years ago before anybody else was talking about the clockwork elves and now the globalists think they're in touch with these entities and things. Only because, and I don't want to get... I'm not the CIA. The CIA is bigger than Coca-Cola. It's basically bigger than Walmart. I've never been an intelligence agency. I've never been a part of any of this stuff. But I had family that was in advanced DARPA research projects that I don't know all the details about. And when I was a kid, my dad told me about some of it, not knowing I'd be a talk show host later. But like when the deputy director of the CIA, he had to have a tooth pulled, he came to my dad. Okay. So my dad was like the doctor to, these guys. And I remember sitting around the kitchen table and I'm like seven. He's like, Carol, I can't tell you all about it, but it's a classified program in Maryland in an underground base. And they won't give me all the details, but it's double the money I'm making now. And this is for national security. But I think it's basically, we're building cyborgs and we've got special forces that have volunteered so we can infiltrate the Russians and get to codes and systems in. I believe it's implanting the messages in their teeth. And I also think as I do implants, I think it's a brain surgery program for microchips. And so I'm hearing it and my Carol's like, David, I'm sick of these people and you've already done so much for the government. And look what they've already done to you and my brother, you're not going to be, you know, I want you out of this. So this is like, you know, seven, eight years old, you're not hearing about the cyborgs. Okay. Okay. So that's the kind of stuff that I grew up seeing. And you know, oh, let's go get your uncle. He's coming off a C 130, you know, army thing and an army uniform from Guatemala. You know, there's like armed guys with machine guns. I mean, I don't know. Okay. And I don't need to know. Okay. The point is, is that's what I grew up, you know, the type of stuff I saw. And my dad never told me about all this stuff. When I was older till it was like 12 years ago and I was finishing in game blueprint for global enslavement. That's free still online. And it's all about the world government and how the cell phones watching you and everything, everything's proven in it. It didn't come true. It was already true. And the plan for one world government and don't have kids and all that and attack on the family. And we were going to go to ballet recital for like my, you know, three year old daughter, she's like 14 now or whatever. And they sit down for like an hour and watch the end of the films, three hour film. And my mom goes, David, that's not true. He goes, yes, it's all true. When I was in junior and high school, they recruited me into the program there and they brought us in and they said the Nazis were wrong because they were only targeting certain groups. We're going to target everybody. And so planetary breakaway and world government and blah, blah, blah. There's a nuclear reactor under UT and all this other stuff, which later on research is actually true. It's not even hidden. But the point is it's not that my dad was even that special. They, my dad was like the score, like the sixth smartest in Texas. And they had a group of less than 10 kids and they brought them in as juniors in high school and said, we're going to do all this. Like they recruited him because they all wanted to be in NASA. That's why we're in the NASA shirt. So when Eddie gets in here, because, because Eddie's right. NASA is a big secret group. It's the other side of the breakaway government. There's the CIA breakaway government in 1947, and there's Kennedy setting up NASA in 1961. So there are two different competing breakaway governments and those are the real governments of the US.