Rogan & Di Paolo ARGUE Over Trump's Lying

Yeah, this this thing that I was reading or that listening to rather this Sam Harris podcast Very fucking interesting because they're talking about What we actually know about the data and where it's coming from and how these people are doing this and how they're setting these things up Yeah, that guy the comic that you and I talked about Again that clip of this Russian who was a former KGB guy who defected to this country explaining how it works Looking back at the yeah, yeah explaining exactly how it works and what he was saying This is 30 something years ago 35 years ago is going down Exactly. It's right and Putin is a KGB guy. Oh Christ. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's This idea that Trump's working with him is fucking silly. Well, I don't know about that I don't think he's working with him to undermine democracy, but I definitely think they've got some business dealings I mean they were offering that's not illegal the penthouse and Trump that's not illegal None of that is illegal. Don't take that from me. Take that from Alan Dershowitz. I don't smarter than both of us I'm not saying it's illegal, but I don't think that he was honest about that. He said I don't do any dealings with Russia I don't have any business with Russia. He definitely did. That's just not true. Well, we'll see We'll see that's what the targeting they're not gonna get him for anything. You don't think so. No You think he's gonna just well, maybe impeachment, but I'd even on on what K I don't even know what they get him high crimes and misdemeanors. I don't I don't know what what he's done To talk about building a tower in Moscow is not illegal what to have business and what he what did he lie about? Specifically, well, there's a lot like what we can pull it up. Let's let's find out all the things What are you gonna go to salon calm? Oh, you can go to a million different websites Well, I know what you're telling that good we do we just establish at the the fucking social media tilts left So yes social media does we're not talking about pulling up social media page. What are you pulling up? I don't know watching that I'm like, I'm not a Trump scholar I haven't I have at my disposal all the different times that he lied, but it's a lot So what do you think is gonna happen to him? You think they'll impeach him? You mean no or he'll resign or what? I don't know. Look, I'm not I'm not claiming to be any sort of an expert in legal proceedings I have no idea that's why I quoted Dershowitz. Yeah, I think well isn't Dershowitz working with Trump? No Juliana is oh, that's right. There are sure I always go to Dershowitz because he's a fucking lib Trump avid 15 Inaccuracies a day in 2018 almost triple the rate from a year before okay, but hold on a second What's the end? Inaccuracies and myths truths. It's a European paper Yeah, but isn't that a little odd 15 a day? No, cuz I don't know who's making that claim I don't know the exact 15 inaccuracies you you doubt that it's true You think that's all a lie that it just made up the fact that he lies a lot Lies about what first of all it's a definition of a lie. I don't know. Let's see it says Washington Post who they hate Those yeah, who absolutely the president made one thousand nine hundred and eighty nine such claims in 2018 by the last day of 2018 You're going to the Washington Post. That's my point. But what but let's what see what it says I mean they can't lie the total figure of vision to seven thousand six hundred So you think they just made up all these lies? Oh, not all of them I'm sure but you could you could go back with Hillary and fucking count you could go to go to Fox News and then Put all up pull up an article how many times Hillary was inaccurate. Do you know what a what about ism is a what about ism? Yeah, when someone talks about something and instead of refuting it with facts they go. Yeah. Well, what about Hillary? What about bill bill did it to what about this? What about that? What about ism? That's what I just committed Because you were saying a Hillary lied, but you both agree, but you're making my point. You go to the Washington Post That's just Jamie pulled up the independent We could go anywhere, but hold on a second. Yeah, look I'm with you. I think Hillary's a liar I think she deleted 30,000 emails right? It's criminal. I think that the Clinton Foundation's a Fucking fully illegal organization. I think they rigged the DNC. I think they they rigged the primaries against right. I'm with you I'm not a supporter. No, I'm not saying you are but once the last time somebody made a statement like that And then said this many inaccuracies when Bill Clinton was in office or Hillary, I'm sure I'm sure there was some inaccuracies But first of all when Bill Clinton was in office, they weren't they count Obama's I Don't know, but that's a what about ism. You know I'm saying we're just talking about Trump You were saying that Trump doesn't lie, and they're saying he lies. I'm not saying he doesn't First of all he said what does he lie? No first of all you know I like to know the definition of a lie If he misstates something Right I'm sure sometimes when you're talking that much okay, so if he lies Example of a blatant yeah, that's fucking that's Washington Post. It's horseshit. I don't know I do you think No, he's a bullshitter for sure yes, but but I mean Joe Would you argue that they haven't been trying to take him down since he came down that fucking escalator? How about the deep state how about the how about the fucking dossier? What why is it and what does that mean the dossier? What dossier the fake dossier Christopher Steele that they used to get the the Pfizer Explain to people what you're talking about. I just did they know what I'm talking about no no no they don't they don't because I don't Know what do you mean the dossier the fake dosh remember? They said they know what he's talking about They had yes, they had you have to know this so you're being willfully ignorant. No. I don't know the dick I don't know okay. I'm explaining on a second. Do you know I've heard these are terms I've heard yes, and it's stuff, but you don't know the full extent Yeah, well this is what I'm talking about. This is his biggest story is anything Trump has done. What is the story? the Steele dossier that Hillary Used they went to you had to get a application from the Pfizer courts And they went they used DNC opposition Christopher Steele who's a British guy had connections in Russia Remember when they said Trump was at a hotel and watching girls peeing on each other Yes, that was all in the steel dossier Christopher Steele is okay They used that in their application to get a Pfizer warrant to spy on Trump during his campaign That's fact that's not me being a right-winger that is fact okay, so but the fact that that like That you don't know that no I remember that now. Oh, that's what I'm talking about But you that's a big story as Trump. You know lying about the number of people does inauguration I want to know the I want to know a lie from Trump. That's equal Equal in power is like when Obama said you know I don't health care that you could keep your health care and all that give me an example of Trump with that big of a lie Well listen I told you I'm not lie I'm not saying all presidents lie all politicians lie So I'm just saying they start to count it when Trump took over they started keeping you know well because it's Bigs like what give me an example like look we just showed you all the numbers of the Washington So if I give you another example you're gonna say oh If you go to salon Salon calm all right well go to I don't know what you've gotten more done than any other administration, okay? This is a lie so true blah blah blah see now. Oh, if somebody says it's a lie Well, let's see what it's at Jamie go back to it. What are you doing? But who's saying that's a lie? Let's see let's see you see what it says Jesus Christ. You're so defensive. It's like you work for the organization No, I don't but you're putting you I'm saying No, this isn't the Washington. Well. What is it is any independent? Oh the NBC? Okay, NBC okay, so everything is that look man. I'm just reading what it's in front of me I know and I'm just you're so emotional about this is ridiculous four cups of coffee. I mean she had to huh Please Tell me you don't know that the mainstream media hates Trump they you're gonna I do Why would you put your fucking because I want to know you better or not they are saying what it what is fact? Stop stop doing that Jamie go back to where it was You can't go says Trump later said that he intended the UN moment to garner a laugh That has repeated this claim seriously since okay, so he says that my The administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of the country So this is just that's an example Bullshitter that's hyperbole right and people were laughing when he said that and so he was saying that he meant to say it as a laugh Okay There are very measures of success But it's not true that his administration has been more successful than any other administration in history When it comes to legislation Trump has signed plenty of bills in his first two years as president Barack Obama in his first two years has significantly more signed significantly more Okay, this is just one thing. I mean, I'm sure there's many many other things absolutely going over and over again I'm with you. I'm not saying he's not a bullshitter, but I'm just saying all of a sudden They keep score when it went right he's no more of a liar than to keep score because he lies so much Well, I was keeping who was keeping score and fucking Hillary was Secretary of State Well, it's a senator in Washington secretary of state and I don't know how much she lied as opposed to how much he lies They're a lot bigger this about her fucking server and about the steel dossier that that is huge That is getting undercover like nobody's bit that that dwarfs Watergate when they unmasked General Flynn That that that dwarfs Watergate. Mmm, that's an interesting conversation. I don't know if that's the truth I don't know enough about Watergate. All right, but and I don't know about that either. Okay Is it the coffee going on? Yeah, well, yeah, I'm strong out Since when you've been afraid of an emotional guy, I'm fucking emotional. It's just I'm just As if I'm against you, you know, it gets me even if you were that will be fine But yet I'm not you're not against me But I'm just saying to call Trump a bigger lie than the fucking every other politician is an exaggeration I don't know by the mainstream media who hates his guts. I think most politicians are liars I think that just a little accustomed to doing that but I think the way he lies is unusual. I Think it's the number one usual. It's just an unusual. You don't think so He he exaggerates like statements like that as an exaggeration Although he did do a lot in his first couple years would never get credit for it, you know, unless you watched Fox News You're not gonna but Would you would you agree that as you get older you become more like more conservative? No, I was always a bit of a dick. I Got a tattoo of Nixon on my ass. I Thought it was yes. No, I would say that was that's a what do they say about if you're young, you know If you're young and conservative you have no soul no heart. Yeah, no old and liberal. You know mine. Yeah Yeah, something like that. Yeah, I would say yeah That's true, but I could always detect the bullshit, you know, I mean I mean, I remember watching CNN in an airport when I first started comedy and that's like 1988 night, you know and getting excited It's some of the shit. Well, it's interesting because I don't disagree with you on everything and I love you as a person You're a great guy. I like you a lot always happy to see you But yet you and I here get a little heated talking about this stuff, but this is politics. This is how divisive Politics are if even a person like but I would never I would never fucking I would never leave here going I don't do that show again. I'm sure We've known each other for 30 years. Yeah, you know, it's not that's not the problem What I'm saying is I'm just using it as example of how divisive politics. Oh, absolutely when people talk about afraid of it No, you know me a lot of people are right. Yes. Yeah I'm not afraid of it. A lot of people are afraid of bad vibes and bad feelings then this is This is one of the things that makes people toe the line Right is the fear of this kind of altercation the fear of this kind of like you don't want that from inside your party So you right you start using they and them you start Thinking that everyone should be able to use any bathroom that they feel like they identify with you start you start going along the line It's one of the more interesting things about politics Is that if you tell me that you are Republic and I can kind of guess your stance on God I can kind of guess your stance on being pro-life or pro-choice Second Amendment rights. It's like all those things sort of fall in line and it's very interesting It's very interesting how you you sort of adopt not you but people sort of adopt a whole Group of things when you decide you're a Republican you decide you're a Democrat, right? I don't but see I don't think I fall into that