Joe Rogan & Anthony Cumia on Louis CK

That's kind of what they've done. I mean, obviously, like the Louis C.K. situation, I know that is so, people are so divided on that one. And my opinion is if he didn't do anything, make anyone do anything against their will, he's just a guy that has a strange proclivity. He likes jerking off in front of people. Apparently, the cat's out of the bag there. But like, were those girls that upset 20 years ago? Were they that upset 20 years ago that now it's an issue? Or were they giggling? Were they like, I need to know how they were then? Because I don't give a fuck what you think now. Like at the time, was it okay? Was it cool with you? Did you sit there and fucking rib, elbow to the ribs with your girlfriend and go, look at this guy jerking off in front of us? To me, I don't care what time is done because the way something looks, the morality or ethics or respect that is expected in 2018, ain't what it was 20 years ago. So you can't be held liable for something you did 20 years ago when it was normal or a little strange or whatever the fuck it was. Well, I think it's always been weird to beat off in front of people. That's an odd thing to do. The thing about it is though, he asked if he could. Right. And this is something that I've brought up to people. I go, you know, and people say, Oh, you know, he would lock these women in a room and beat off to him. I go, stop. Okay. If you're gonna, if you're gonna like push this, you're saying that because that fits your narrative. He's this abusive person who's abusing his power. Now here's another problem with that. When this was all going down, he wasn't very famous. No, that's just it too. So what power was he abusing? He was a successful comedian. He was admired by his peers because he was really funny. Yeah. But he wasn't Louis CK, like the superstar filling out Madison Square Garden, Louis CK. Yeah. He wasn't the same guy. You know, he didn't even have all the HBO specials and all the Netflix specials. Yeah. So he was just another comic that liked to beat off in front of people and he would ask first. So when you say that he, you know, forced these women and wouldn't let them leave, none of them say that. In fact, he asked. And when they said no, he didn't do it. He didn't say, Oh, well good. You don't want me to beat off. That'll make it feel even better when I beat off in front of you. Shut the fuck up and sit down. You know, he wasn't doing that. No, no. He was asking, which is, which is so strange, but it's a weird thing. It's not, it's, it's not in the same realm as, as Harvey Weinstein. It's not even fucking, no, it's not even close. It's not even close, but people don't want you to rationalize. No. They don't want you to grade things. They just want to talk about abuse. All abuse gets shoveled into this one little pie chart area. Like this is male abusers. Yeah. And then they'll put Matt Lower right next to Bill Cosby right next to Louis C.K. Like, well, this seems kind of crazy. And then when you say it's crazy, like Matt Damon said, let's, I think we should make a distinction. They're like, Oh yeah. Get off the movie. You can't be an ocean. Now. You're, you become a rape apologist. If you, you say things like that. And it's weird.