Huawei's Creative Destruction w/Bryan Callen | Joe Rogan

Well, the copying thing, the intellectual property thing, they don't give a fuck. The industrial espionage is huge. It's crazy. Yeah. The Huawei thing, the fucking head of Huawei, his daughter, is being held captive in Vancouver. Do you know about that? Yeah. Google that. The head of Huawei, Huawei has been accused of some crazy backdoor shit they put into routers and they're really worried about their technology getting into this country and the United States has stopped the production of their cell phones in the United States. Like, you have to buy them from somewhere else and bring them in sort of, you know, what's it called? What's it called when it's not connected to someone? Like, you buy a cell phone, it's not connected to somebody? You know what I'm calling it? On tether? No, it's not on tether. It's like that though. Whatever. I'll remember it. But you could buy one of those on like Amazon or one of those tech websites, but you can't get it at Verizon. You can't get it at AT&T. They blocked all that and they're like terrified at this company that has become their number two now. They're right behind Apple. Like, Apple's number one is Apple. No, Samsung. Samsung's number one, their number two and Apple's number three. So they've passed Apple in cell phone production. China's always had, I think, had a humility. They were humiliated in their past, you know, by the British, by a lot of different, you know, by the Japanese who behaved atrociously. But you know what the Opium Wars were? Where the British were traders were bringing in opium from India to China. China developed a major opium problem. So the emperor and the government said, this is a major problem. Guess what, Britain? You can't sell your opium on our docks. You're unloading huge boxes of fucking opium from India and I know you're making a lot of money, but no, because we have a major addiction problem. And Britain said, you're interfering with free trade and we should be allowed to. And China said, you're not allowed to. And so they went to war and Britain won that war and forced China to continue buying opium. What? What year was this? It's called the Opium Wars. Pull up that article. And that's why Hong Kong became, well, that's why the British took Hong Kong and leased it for a hundred years. Look at this under house arrest in Vancouver, Huawei CFO lives in luxury and spends her days out shopping. There you go. I just got to wear a GPS. So I'll take that fucking life. Make her wear a GPS monitor. She it's just a stick to her 11 p.m. curfew. So by the way, she's tired by 11 anyway. So her dad owns Huawei. Is that what it is? Yeah, she's well, she's the CFO also. I don't know. Bring her up. She doesn't her dad own Huawei. Isn't that what it is? It didn't say that necessarily. She might be the daughter of billionaire founder. So she can't. Okay. Why is she under house arrest though? Because they think Huawei is doing a bunch of really shifty things. Well, they are. The US wants to extradite her on the grounds that she tricked banks into potentially violating Iran sanctions has sparked an unprecedented diplomatic row. Yeah. They don't give a fuck. They're doing business with everybody. They're showing up with a briefcase full of cash and some nuclear weapons. Fuck you. And this is what the United States government is worried about. Like these people becoming the number one technology provider in the world. Like if they provided all the cell phones that everyone in America uses, like what if like they were close if they came out, okay, and they got onto the Verizon network or the AT&T network with some of these phones. These phones, when you look at the tech people, the tech like the people like, like Unbox Therapy and MKBHD, those guys who developed these YouTube videos, breaking down the components of cell phones. They're always super favorable about these Huawei phones. They have crazy cameras. Some of them have this fucking insane ability to zoom in. Really? Yeah. They use computer learning and they have a... So they have it better than the iPhone? The new iPhone is pretty fucking good. But when the latest Huawei Mate Pro, whatever the fuck it was, one of them, one of them, their most high end phone, there was a video of them doing a zoom and like you can't believe how much bigger they can make something that's in the distance and make it look really clear. And they have image stabilization and crazy. I mean, they're about to come out with 150 megapixel sensor on a camera that's on the phone. And they're going hog wild with technology and providing like the state of the art shit. And just a few years ago, they were like a non-herd of brand. I mean, five, six, seven years ago, you never heard about people talking about Huawei. Now Huawei has a direct competitor to the MacBook Pro where, I mean, a lot of people think it's the best laptop that you can buy. But it is encrypted. It has a bezel display. It works on fingerprints. The web camera pops out of a key. Like you press a key and it pops up so people can't see you while you're jerking off. If you're one of those guys that worries, the government's watching me. I sure am. While these Huawei computers, they figured it out. And they basically copied the design of an Apple MacBook, just made it way better. Yeah, but don't they have, of course, but don't they have encrypted, don't they have built in spyware stuff? We don't know. Some things. We don't know. This is what's funny. It's always my argument for the marketplace because you don't want to uncheck capitalism, but what's great about the marketplace is that you have to allow for creative destruction. The fact that, remember that flip camera? All the stuff that we had, a GPS, you had to have a GPS, you had to have a little camera, then you had your phone. And you had to allow certain businesses to go out of business to get all that technology into one fucking place, which is your phone that we all use. And that requires people to, it requires creative destruction. It requires people lose, entire businesses fold under, but a new one's born. Imagine if people bailed out all those portable phone businesses. And that's what would happen. Imagine if the government did that because the market crashed. That's what would happen in a government controlled economy. In a socialist economy, I promise you, you would have boards or committees that would decide whether or not it was fair. A government organization would never allow for that kind of creative destruction. Fucking never. Because you'd have to protect jobs. Hold on a second. No, no, no, but you would. Not in a situation like if China with technology, they're not trying to save those stupid phones. When those phones became irrelevant because the cameras on the phones were better. That's because they had to compete. When the cameras came irrelevant. That's because they had to compete. But that technology didn't come out of China. It came out of the West. And technology didn't. The innovation and all the innovation. Everything you see that comes out of Apple where you can swipe, all that stuff. Don't forget, that's all that came out of the free market. That came out of the cutthroat competition. Oh yeah, no argument. But it's fascinating to me that they just take that and do it better.