Bas Rutten Was An Animal! | Joe Rogan and Robert Oberst

All that kind of recovery stuff is so important. Guys that think they could just work out and not take that time and recover. Right. I was that guy though. You learn. Sure. I mean, when I needed, when this ripped, it was the full tear finally, like my tendon exploded. It didn't rip actually. It exploded. So there was still a little... Is that when you were doing the Hercules thing? No, no, that was after. That was after. When that happened, it wasn't, it didn't fully separate. So when, when I went home and I was training down the road, this was like a little while later. So you didn't even get surgery immediately? You couldn't. You can't. Why? Because first off, if it's muscle or if it's not completely separated, you can't get surgery. But this basically what I'm saying is exactly what you're saying. Just a different time period. This exploded off the tendon when I was doing a world record attempt for an axle in training. And that, I was like, I knew it was tore right away, but we had the pilot for the TV show we were supposed to film in Nova Scotia, Canada this next day. And I knew what an opportunity it was. So I said, fuck it. I went and took a shower and got out of the plane and I flew to Canada. And in Canada, with it completely torn, knowing that I needed surgery and hurting like the worst pain ever, we had to flip a boat. So like one of those little rowboats, we had to flip it like a tire. Then we carried 300 pound water jugs up a hill. We did like all this stuff with that separated and the entire time it just felt like someone was stabbing me with a cattle prod. But that one, that was meathead. But were you worried that you were doing more permanent damage though? Not on the bicep. No, once the bicep goes, the only thing worse you can really do is shove it up higher so they have to flay you deeper when they pull it down. Flay is a hard word. Flay. I'm thinking of some fucking Inquisition type torture device. Right. But I had a great surgeon. I was taking care of man and it wasn't too bad. How long was the rehab? Two, no, no, no. Three weeks in a cast and then like he gave me this like an arm brace that would like I'd adjusted every week or so to where go more and more straight. And then that was maybe three months before I could use it. And at that point, it's not like I could go do what I was doing. It's at that point you start over. Wow. Yeah. And it was my arm was like tiny. I was pretty pissed off. Or even your arm tiny is probably a regular person. Yeah, yeah. But how weird is that? I'm walking around like with one arm like this and the other arm looks like it works at like some IT company. Well you know Boss Rutan, do you know him? Yeah, yeah. I met him a few times. He has what he calls baby arm is one arm that's small because of atrophy because of pinched nerves. Right. It's really kind of fucked up. Yeah. To this day, I don't think he can hold up a jug of milk. Oh shit. Like he couldn't like hold a jug of milk in his arm and extend his arm. Yeah. That's a guy that for some reason didn't get a lot of the love that he so deserves. He was a pioneer. Savage. Yeah. And one of the most like one of the original technical strikers. Right. One of the one dudes way bigger than him and still handled him. Like Hoys Gracie is amazing and savage but he was doing the exact same thing. Oh yeah. Yeah, he was just years later but if Hoys had to fight Boss Rutan it would have been ugly. But the thing is like in the early days Boss didn't understand submissions either so Hoys would have probably got him if it was like UFC 1. Right. You know it's a crazy sport and the people that have been able to like pave the way like a guy like Boss Rutan. Yeah. He's such a good dude too. He's so nice. He's such a savage. He would just shoot cortisone and everything. All of his joints are all fucked up because he would just take cortisone shots. Just shoot it into everything. Lidocaine. He'd shoot lidocaine into his shins. Oh my god. So he could fucking blast people not feel anything. He was such an animal. He was such an animal. He had amazing stories though. We went to his gym. We did I did Moss Rest. Moss Resting is like an old Russian style wrestling where you have like a stick and you each hold the ends of the stick and try and take it from each other. And we actually I did it twice. Two tournaments and I was the undefeated American champion for a year and a half after doing it twice. But we went to his gym to do the qualifiers to go to the World Championship in Dubai. And he came out there and he was judging and stuff. And I remember like I basically I was way bigger than most people and I'm like upper body heavy. So I just leaned back and take it. And at the end of it he walked over and he goes he's like the force is strong with you. So I fucking love this guy. Yeah he's got a great personality. He's a great commentator too. It's great at that. It's fun. He makes shit fun. Yeah he seems like cool dude.