Are Those Navy Pilots Really Seeing UFOs? | Joe Rogan and Duncan Trussell

I mean, it's almost, it doesn't always kind of seem like the most boring possible solution is usually the right one. It's like, what's the most boring thing? The most boring thing is nothing's happening, but you're imagining the dog is somehow has a telepathic link to you. Occam's razor, right? Yeah, because Occam's the simplest, but it's also the most boring. Like, you know these crazy fucking UFOs, I'm sorry if you've talked about this a bunch on the podcast, but the UFOs that we're seeing, that the Navy is releasing these videos or these tic tacs zipping around, and it's Navy pilots. It's not the people we interviewed in that show, it's Navy pilots who are like, yeah, I don't know what the fuck this is. And I have great conversations with Uber drivers. And like we were talking about it, and this guy was like, and a lot of them are programmers and shit, and this guy was like, it's probably a tech net, it's a glitch in the type of radar they're using. I think it must be a glitch. I mean, that's the most likely reality. They're not seeing it with their own eyes. They're not? I don't think so. I think they're just picking it up on radar. And so he's like, maybe it's a glitch, or maybe it's like. We should find that out. Can you Google if the pilots were picking it up on radar? The pilots spotted UFO. Because I know some guys have spotted things with their own eyes. I know for sure some guys have. I'm not sure if the data's acting. It's probably relevant to the conversation though. It's probably a good thing that we know. People listening going, yeah, what the fuck? I get super skeptical. Yeah. I feel like almost like it's a plot. I don't wanna go full Eddie Bravo. But I feel like when I see people talking about UFOs, okay, what else is going on? What are you distracting me from? Is this really a big issue? I was like, is it really happening? Can I see it? What do you got? You got nothing? Oh, you got like some radar. You got radar from one, two pilots, three pilots. Okay, I believe it. But I wanna see more. Why do I wanna see more? Like what am I? And you'll get caught up in it. It'll chew up hours of your day. Yeah, man. There's a lot of those guys that we ran into on that show. I felt bad for them. Because they didn't understand what had happened to them. They had gotten caught in this weird loop of looking for secrets and looking for mysteries to be solved and looking for hidden conspiracies. And they get caught in that. And some of that shit is real, which is part of the problem. Some of it you can come across the Gulf of Tonkin in the Northwoods, Operation Northwoods. You can come across a bunch of them that are real. Enron, you can see how they put that together. You're like, what? You could see real crazy conspiring. And then you can get lost and think it's everywhere. That's right. Yeah, well, I mean, this is like, dude, I was just- What is this, Jamie? Oh, according to day, the AAVs, what does that mean? Is that the new UFO? Is that a new one? How about you say UFO, you fuck? Come on, yeah, are we really gonna change UFO? They're like, they have their own little thing. We're AAVs. We don't refer to us as UFOs. Those are my pronouns. AAVs appeared at an altitude greater than 80,000 feet, far higher than commercial or military jets typically fly. Initially, the Princeton's radar team- It's a radar, really high, Princeton Story is what it's called. It's like a really high processing radar system or something. Why is it spelled Princeton? Oh yeah, yeah. It's Princeton Story. No, it is Princeton. It's just that apostrophe is in a weird spot. Oh, okay. The radar team didn't believe what they were seeing, chalking up the anomalies to an equipment malfunction, but after they determined that everything was operating as it should, they began detecting instances, which the AAVs, I wanna know what the fuck that means, dropped with astounding speed to lower, busier airspace. They approached the Princeton's commander about taking action. He said, I was chomping at the bit. I really wanted to intercept these things. What? Yeah. We have the fucking craziest people in this country. There's an alien, man. I wanna chase it. Catch that motherfucker. I was chomping. I'm gonna catch him by the tail. Put it in a fucking sail. Anomalous aerial vehicles. Get the fuck outta here. Oh, come on, you dick. There's already a name for it. Whoever invented that new name is an ass. He's an asshole. Give us a break. Well, I was actually the one who decided to call them AAVs. Oh, come on. You know, technically, it's not an unidentified flying object. You're not taking our fucking UFOs, man. I'm gonna fight that. What is it again? What is the exact phrase? Anomalous aerial vehicle. Anomalous aerial vehicle. It's an AAV. You're an asshole. Anomalous. It's an anomaly. I wanna propose a new name for UFOs. Anomalous aerial vehicle. It's probably a part of a billion dollar study. Two fighters were diverted to intercept one of the strange objects. When they first arrived on the scene, the pilots didn't see any flying objects, but they did observe what the lead pilot commander, David Fraver, later referred to as a disturbance in the ocean. Oh! The water was churning with white waves breaking over what looked like a large object just under the surface. Yeah. Then they noticed one of the objects flying about 50 feet above the water. Fraver, the commander of the elite black Aces squadron, this is a goddamn Nicolas Cage movie, who was a Top Gun program graduate with more than 16 years of flying experience, described it as about 40 feet long, shaped like a tic-tac-candy, with no obvious means of propulsion. It's white, it has no wings, it has no rotors. I go, holy shit, what is that? Dude, you know whoever the company is that makes tic-tacs? They're like, yes, they're calling them tic-tacs! It's free publicity! Totally, but tic-tacs is the one sponsoring this whole deal. You think it is? Yeah, man, people are buying tic-tacs right now, listening to this. You just say tic-tac enough? Remember those old subliminal things you used to do in movie theaters? When you were watching a movie, they would say, hungry, eat popcorn. Every like 50, 100th frame, they would stick like a hungry, eat popcorn. They would like, put subliminal text on the screen. You'd be like, damn, I want some popcorn. If you just say tic-tacs. Tic-tacs. People are buying tic-tacs right now. Well, we do know that pilot's got great breath, right? That's a tic-tac man. If like the first time you see a UFO, the first thing that pops into your head is it looks like a mint, that's nuts. There had to be other ways to describe it. You got stock in tic-tacs, bro, for sure. I Googled tic-tac after he said that, because I couldn't remember if they were square or if they were like, tick, you know. They looked like they would expect a good UFO to look like. Yeah, kind of boring. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like super Apple-like, like if Apple made a UFO. Yeah, it's like a pretty sleek. Pretty sleek, but going into the ocean part, that's the part I like the best because that kind of lines up with Hollow Earth theory and that, and like maybe like they're flying down. They have a base. Yeah, in the center of the Earth. Of course they have a base in the Earth. Why wouldn't you have a base in the ocean? We never go there. Do you ever fly over? I was just in Hawaii, you fly over five hours of water. It's just water. Oh yeah, well that's that Strava app thing. I feel like we've talked about literally everything. You know the Strava app? Shh, don't worry about it. Okay, good. It's great, man. I love that I have to think, pretty sure we've talked about this, the heat maps, the Strava heat maps that seem to show people walking under the ocean and stuff. Walking? Yeah, we haven't? No. Oh, so yeah, because like Strava, you know, it's like, I think it was Strava, right? It was like a way for you to track your steps. And some people apparently were on some bases in the Arctic or in the ocean, walking around. And it showed up before they could like turn that function off for top secret facilities, like the places they blur out on Google maps. So do you think there's like a military base under the water somewhere where submarines go? God, man, you know, I wanna think that, but I'm always- Like in that movie, The Meg? Yeah, I think it's probably a technical error, but fuck maybe, I mean, I don't know. It's like the implication of these tic tacs and all of it, if you really wanna like, the first to me, the most obvious one minus the churning water evidence, is that it's some kind of equipment malfunction. Well, it's also that they have an unlimited budget for black ops. We don't know what that number is. That's right. We don't get to know, right? All that weird shit they do when they're making stealth bombers and all that area 51 stuff. How much money goes to that? Like what is the number? Let's Google this. How much does the US spend on black ops? I was gonna bring this up in the middle of what you guys are talking. There's a program here that was going on. The AA tip, advanced aerospace threat identification program was going on and had a budget. Just the AA tip. I'm just gonna fuck you out of your money, but I'm just gonna use the AA tip. 22 million is what their budget was in 2012. And this said that it doesn't still go on, but apparently it does. Luis Elizondo says it was still operating and he is part of two of the stars. So they spent $22 million to see if the UFOs were a threat? A year. And then there's the stars academy. That's Tom Delonge stuff. Some of it's still going on. It's all, listen, I am fucking rooting for it. I want it to be real. I would love it if it was real.