#2131 - Brian Simpson

Let's go. Netflix special. What's up? What's up? Live from the mothership streaming on Netflix right now. The first special live from the mothership being streamed on Netflix. Yeah, man. How's that? It's exciting, man. It's great on Netflix. Yeah, man. How's that exciting, man? It's great, too. Yeah, nailed it. You've broken, nailed it. You got a good positive response from the comedy community, too. Beautiful. Yeah, yeah. Beautiful. Everybody's loving it. Yeah, this is gonna keep going. Keep getting stronger now. I know. It's such a nice feeling, man. It's so nice to watch this happen for you because you know, one of the guys that came out here early, you took a early risk. Yeah, a lot of people in the beginning of the like, what the fuck is everybody doing, moving to Texas, the middle of the pandemic? Yeah, but you know, honestly, it didn't feel like that big of a risk. Well, maybe at the time, I don't remember, man, but it felt like an easy decision when I made it. But it was the last minute thing. I literally, from the time I decided to move, like I was moving, to the time I moved, I think it was like a month. Yeah, it was quick for me too, man. I mean, I came out here in May of 2020 and I started looking at houses immediately. And then, you know, we got, there was like, you know, little hesitation with Mrs. Rogan and the girls were really into it right away because when we got out here you could jump in the lake. People were partying. It was like, we went on the boat. My real estate agent's a genius. She took us out on the lake and she showed us like, this is the life out here. Like people are having fun and everybody was terrified in L.A. everybody was wearing masks outside it was just and here really no one had masks on outside you'd go to restaurants and and my daughter just wanted a life of real life and that's back when they were like they were fucking with the store yeah bad like the city it was so crazy for the [2:02] store to be two blocks from what's that country bar? What is it rodeos? Saddle rate it was too much from saturday and saddle ranch Had you know a hundred people out there with little dividers between them and everything and then the store They tried to have they tried to do the same thing, but they put comedy outside with like the vatters in front of everybody and everything and the city was still like no Yeah, that's a lot of performance. Shut it down. We couldn't do comedy through this little fucking window. My friend's brother worked for the city and worked in the COVID department. And one of the women who was in charge of making the decision to close down outdoor dining. He said to her, there's no evidence that outdoor dining causes a spread. And she said, yeah, but it's about optics. It's about optics. So some person who none of their money is dependent upon business being open. They get that same check every week. [3:00] That check is, that's what you get. You work for the fucking state. Does my check? She didn't give a fuck about just stopping millions and millions of dollars in business and stopping all these restaurants from being able to stay alive. All these people that buzz, you know, you ever worked in a restaurant? Oh yeah. That's work, man. That's work. When I was, I guess I was 21. I was dating this girl who she got a degree in hotel management and hospitality, like that kind of thing. And dude, the hours that she had to work were crazy. Right out of college, she was working like all day long. 12 hour days were normal. And if you were a manager, you'd come in on Saturday if they needed you, you'd do everything that they asked you to do. And you don't make any money. There's the amount of money that a restaurant makes. Like a restaurant has to be like really killing it to make money. Generally they're just above the part where they're losing money. [4:00] Just above, they do, if they're packed, they're doing great, but there's nights that they're not packed and then you got all All this food you bought and it's how most comedy club flow right? Exactly. Yeah, we're just we're living in some dream land. Yeah Well, yeah, mother should have had to worry about that at all. We don't know how that happens so well It's crazy how it happens so well Yeah, yeah every single night we can never like oh when we were we use Yeah, every single night. We could never, like, uh, when we were, we used Brian and I for people don't know. We would sit in the green room of the Vulcan. And this was the dark days where like no one knew what was gonna happen with live performance anywhere. There was no touring. Nobody was touring. Well, Bert was touring still. He was doing parking lots. Oh, he was doing those driving shows. He's a savage. He's the parking lots. He was doing those driving shows. He's a savage. He's the only one. Actually, no, he lives it. Yeah. He's doing it allows him, right? A few other people did it too. I don't know. But Bert invented the driving thing. But the point is, it was weird. We didn't know what was going to happen. And then we would be talking about, we gotta build a club. Cause Ron White literally grabbed me by my shoulders. [5:06] You know, it was like whatever the fuck we have to do, we're opening up a fucking club here. He was like, we're gonna fucking keep doing this. I was like, okay, we gotta keep doing this. It was literally Ron White grabbing me in November of 2020. It was the first time he had been on stage. And he crushed. Not only did he crush the ovation that he got when he was walking to that stage, holy shit. I forget who brought him up. I think it was Duncan. I forget who brought him up. But whoever brought him up, the fucking ovation that he got was so insane. You saved him too? He went from retiring to now he's on the road again. Yeah, I was telling him you're never retiring What are you talking about they invited me to his retirement party? I go I'm not going to your for Gaze There's no way that's real you're not quitting you're one of the best comics alive You get to do one of the most amazing things make people happy Make a bunch of people just laugh and feel so good [6:03] And he's and he's better than ever. Better than ever. Better than ever. Sharper than ever. Always writing and enthusiastic. Like he's revived. Yeah, man. I think dudes get to a certain age where they have this thing in their head where, oh, this is not my thing anymore. I'm gonna just settle. Why? Are you alive? Are you alive? Are you alive? Can you still kill? You can still do it, right? George Carlin died on the road son. He died in a hotel room like a fucking soldier. That's true. He was like a thousand years old, so boy, whining about the country. You know, and George Carlin had a career that lasted for like 50 plus years. Yeah, and the Bob Sagittad on the road. Bob Sagittad tragically. That's a horrible one, man. Felt, blacked out, fell and hit his head. You know, we saw our friend Duncan the other night, black out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Duncan fainted at the black keys concert, [7:02] and he didn't know he was fainting. He didn't know what was going on. And I caught it. Redban grabbed me and he goes, look, what's going on over here with Duncan. And I got over to him and our security guy had caught him before he fell. But I thought he tripped over this box because there was like open, you know, those boxes they used for equipment. It was because we were backstage. we were in the corner, we had this dope spot to watch the show. And when he grabbed him, when Bruce grabbed him, Duncan just seemed weird. It's, I grabbed my, my, my, okay, did you get hurt? He goes, no, I go, did that thing fall on you? And Bruce like, no, he fell on it. And I go, what happened? He goes, I don't know. I'm fine though. I'm fine. But then I feel his body like giving out in my hands. So I've got my hands on him because I'm helping him out, but I feel him giving out. And so, hey man, you okay? Are you okay? And so he starts like slumping. You know? And I go, hey, we're going to get out what's going on. Okay. And you know, he was sober. It wasn't a drug. [8:05] It wasn't anything like that. And we sit him down. I go, you all right, he was, yeah, it's so weird, man. It just felt so weird. I just, all of a sudden, I just, like, I just was passing out and he goes out again. He just goes out again right hey. And then they get EMTs, and then this lady comes to take care of them, and this dude comes, and they carry them over to a cot. I think he was locking out his knees, huh? I don't know what it was. So you know what? What's weird is that we haven't talked about this since that happened. Yeah. Well, I talked about it with him. Yeah, he doesn't, I don't know if he knows we're gonna talk about it on the bottom. Yeah, he probably doesn't want us to talk about it. He thinks so? I don't know. Should we not talk about it? I don't know. Let's put it, we'll put a placeholder in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. How did I get to that point though? Um, we're talking about drugs, no. We're talking about um, black Sagitt. Oh, Bob Sagitt, down there. So Bob Sagitt just fainted? [9:06] Which fucking happens, man? I mean, you could, there's a lot of people that want to blame it on the vaccine, to blame it on this and that, and like, might maybe, but also if people faint, unfortunately. It's, I've seen people faint, stone cold sober. Tony Hitch I usually fainted one night at the commie store so bad he banged his head and everybody's really worried about him. Just fainted. You know, it happens. I fainted in boot camp. Oh shit. Yeah, right after them telling us, not to lock out our legs, but I wasn't listening. I don't lock out my leg. What got up like? Everybody's over you? It's like time travel. Everybody's over you. time travel. Why? You were explaining this to me, but it didn't make any sense to me. The locking out the legs thing. Yeah, for whatever, like if you're standing still for a long period of time and you fully extend your knees, it just, it cuts off circulation or something. But yeah, I've seen people drop like fly. Like if you have an parade or something, you'll see people drop like that. But it's just, what a dumb feature in human beings. [10:05] The medical name is orthostatic posture seat syncope. Happens at churches, graduations, weddings, or at events when standing a long time. More common if one keeps the knees locked. This pulls the blood of the leg veins. A person who stands long enough in one place will faint. Holy shit. Yeah. I thought there was a myth. Nah, I see anything happen. A lot. That's crazy. Multiple people. I would have argued with that to the end of time. I was like, no, no, I'm not feigning. If I lock my legs out, I'm not feigning. I'm not feigning. I think some people don't. I think if out once and it was so embarrassing. Was it from just standing? No, I was in a FA 18 going six and a half G's. Well that's kind of a humble burger. Well no no no because I got through more G's. I got through seven and a half G's. We did seven and a half and I was I was on the verge of [11:02] blacking out and first of all these pilots pilots, they're not using gravity suits. And those air force and navy pilots that fly those jets, those guys are jacked, dude. They have to be really fit because part of the thing is forcing blood into your brain. So while you're steering this fucking insane vehicle, dude, when you're in one of those things and you realize what they can do, and he took me for a ride We went through the mountains. He's going I mean we're only like 100 to 100 feet off the ground as fucking dude is expertly piling up piloting this thing to trenches and shit It was wild was terrifying but then it was explained to me. Okay, you know They take you through this whole training course with the blue angels and then he was explaining to me, okay, you know, they take you through this whole training course with the blue angels and then he's explaining to me, okay, now when you hit the high G's, you got to grab onto your straps like where your legs are and they grab onto their, the joystick. But whatever you're grabbing onto, you grab onto and you do a thing called hooking. So you go like this, and you're forcing blood into your head to stay conscious. [12:07] And then the gravity, the G force is pushing down on you and you're conscious it's like elevator doors. And you're gonna like, hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot. So I'm doing this and I hear him doing it. And I'm like, oh my God, this experience with I'm experiencing too. And flying. And he's a path, I thought it's maybe immune to it by now, right? No, he's going, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, and I'm going, oh my God, this is insane. Just the physical demands that it takes to fly one of those things. Like you have a, a car that handles well, you have a nice car. When you take turns in that car, you know how your body kind of goes sideways a little bit and you're gonna correct a little if you're really going fast. I mean, they're really, they handle so flat, but you feel the Gs, you feel the thing when you turn. Imagine that times, I don't know what the volume is, [13:03] but when this thing is going, what is it? 500 miles an hour, 200 feet off the ground. Is it pushing from everywhere? I don't know. It's just so immense. The pressure so immense. So I got through that and then we did this other turn that was not as many Gs. Four and a half or something like that. It wasn't nearly as many, but I didn't hook. I don't want four and a half or something like that. It wasn't nearly as many, but I didn't hook. I didn't do the thing. I thought I was going to be fine. And it's blacked out through up. Oh man. So I got through the harder part. I got through the harder part and I just fucking slacked off. I think I was so blown away by the experience, so blown away by what these things, what it feels like when you're inside one of those things and what they're capable of doing, it's so mind-blowing. So what it changes your idea of what a thing can do. You know how, if you're in your car, especially your car, your car's fast, it handles well. [14:02] When you're in your car, you have a completely different sense of what a car can do than if you're in like a 1970 pickup truck with a shitty six-cylinder engine and fucking you're car is going it's gone now when you get a Tesla it's that times five because Tesla's are insane they don't make any noise and they go zero to 16 1.9 seconds So it's just like this the car disappears now that times Hundreds is what this jet's doing It's so fucking fast and did you tell them to put a little extra on? No, I said, let's go brother, let's go. He was like, you ready to do this? I'm like, let's fucking do this. I was in, I was in. I was like, this is what these guys do. I wanna experience it. Take me for the real ride and it is a ride, dude. It's a, it's a change is your reference points. Imagine the fucking ego you have to have to be to be that kind of pilot. [15:06] Well, they're all men. Yeah, these are men. Men, these are like jacked men who are like real friendly and super polite and they always drink their water and they always get their pull ups in. These guys are men and they have a full gym set up there. These guys are in shape constantly. You do not get out of shape if you're doing that. You cannot get out of shape. It's too hard. Bro, it's bananas. You miss one hook. You did. You're good. And you're gonna have to eject and you're gonna give up that you crashed a $1 billion jet or whatever the fuck those things cost. Didn't somebody crash recently? There's a couple crashes. There was one where a guy had to eject like it lost power or something like that. So he ejects and it slams into the mountains of North Carolina. It was crazy. Yeah, it just ran out of gas and slammed in the mountains. [16:01] But the guy parachuted down, I believe in that one. There was another one more recent recent, before that, rather, not as recent, where there was like this crazy fiery crash and like they were doing tests and the guy lost control of the jet. Bro, you can lose control, one of those things. Dude, I'm telling you when you're in it, it's not what I thought. I thought you're like, hey, just fucking spirit. No, it's the physical force on your body. It's insane. Insane. There's no way I would do a full living. That's why the UFO shit is so perplexing. Because whatever those things are, if there are, nobody's in them. No fucking chance. No chance. Nobody's in those things. Because you would be turned into Jello. Like that. From changing directions so quickly. With their doing is moving. What was it like that they estimated the tick-tax to go? I think it was 13,000 Gs. Something insane. Where it moved so fast. [17:01] Because it went from, supposedly went from above our atmosphere, which is like above 50,000 feet down to like 50 feet in a second. And didn't crash. Not only didn't crash, stop dead and hovered. They're like, what can do that? And what happens to the people that are in that? You're gone, bro. You're missed. You're pink missed. You're like those people in that. You're gone bro, you're missed. You're pink missed. You're like those people in that submarine. You just splashed. Bro, I just speaking to that shit. I just watched a, I just watched a YouTube video about another fucking incident. What's the name of it? Boeing? No, it wasn't Boeing. No, this was a long time ago. It was, this was a mining, a mining rig where the guys, I remember ago, this was a mining rig where all the guys got sucked through a door. A door was cracked and actually only one guy got that way but because that door got cracked, it killed everybody inside. [18:00] Oh my God. That deep sea, especially when it was new, that deep sea especially when it was new that deep sea like mining shit But you have to those gods have to live oh My god sucked into an oil pipe oh my god. No, this is this isn't it But still like Jesus Christ sucked into an oil pipe. Yeah, some of these people because they would they would what the fuck Did you see that one with that sinkhole opened up in the bottom of a pool of a swimming pool yeah the whole pool drained and people got sucked into the sinkhole and died what the fuck yeah what did this happen I don't know Israel oh man sinkholes are crazy I mean sinkholes are crazy. I mean, St. Coles are crazy. And they're everywhere. Some of them, the weird thing is some of them, they look like, they look like someone poured the earth. Like they're circular. So look at this. [19:02] It just a hole opens in the bottom of the fucking pool start spreading People go yeah people went in there man Bro that shit is deep. Oh, yeah, you go look at this how crazy must that have feel to see the thing just implode in the bottom and a Whole open up like a curse was put on the pool and what is my man doing right? You know when knows what the fuck to do man, but that dude is he's like he's gonna reach in there and grab something because he's trying to think where his family is People got people got fall they I mean how deep is that fucking thing? If you get sucked into that with all that water. Yeah, you go. Oh my god Terrific. There's no way that it's smooth. And you probably, oh, your dad ain't going down. You get on the way down. You get right face bashed in. Look at those edges and shit. Yeah. Did you see that one with that hole opened up? That's what I'm because fear. I don't want to die in a, in a, like, where I can't move. What do you call it? With rocks crushing your head, drowning. Just any kind of close space [20:06] when they just take my space? Yeah. Well, I just lost your phobia. I just told the CIA how to torture me. They already know how to torture you, bro. I'm taking all the seats. They just checked your Twitter and ran through an algorithm. They know how to torture you. What was that one Jamie where a whole opened up that was so big, it was circular, it looked fake. We had to confirm that it was real, even though it looked like really bizarrely fake. It looks so fake, it looks like CGI. What is it? We're gonna pull it up, you all right? Yeah. I'll give you a second, I gotta go. Okay, you know what it is, right? That's a terrifying way to go though. The earth just gives out from under you. Yeah. And I will give up immediately. I went to Pompeii when I was in Italy. And that's a wild one, dude. So it's still there? Yeah. Yeah. You can go there. I know you can let people walk through it. Oh yeah, you can walk through it. Yeah, it's like a museum. Like you can go, you can see where these people lived. [21:06] They've uncovered most of it. They uncover people and they have the people on display. And the people are just like stone. They just got impregnated with ash. And all that's left is like their form. But why go into that pose? Like why would you? Because it just overcame them like a wave. Like you don't understand what a volcano eruption is like. Ice cubes the only reason I know where pyroclastic flow is. What is that? What a great lyric. I know right? Ice cubes got some great fucking lyrics. That's it. Look at that. That's a real sinkhole bro. Wow. How insane is that? It looks like someone took an apple core to the earth. That's it. Look at that. That's a real sinkhole, bro. How insane is that? It looks like someone took an apple core to the earth. Look how smooth it is. It seems like the sort of thing they should be able to predict. No, they can't, though, man. Because there's underwater currents and streams and rivers. We can't keep an accurate assessment of exactly what's going on under the surface [22:02] and what kind of erosion is taking place and what kind of cavities are everywhere? Barrow. That's like a gateway to hell. So apparently, and I'm like, that's like a movie. I might be off my disk, but apparently everything behaves like a liquid. Like, hold on. Says it's created by humans. You gotta figure out a way to get past. Okay, sign up for it if you have to. Yeah, it was like, everything behaves like a liquid, just like solids, just do it on a slower scale. Like all the little fundamental parts of it are moving like liquid. You know why you know that? Earthquakes. You ever been in an earthquake? Oh yeah. It feels like the earth became like you were on a raft. That's another part of reason why I left California was like everyone was living there acting like that shit wasn't on the way. You know what I mean? Like that shit's overdue, bro. And it's gonna fuck shit up. It's gonna fuck shit up in an incomprehensible way. I got to LA in 94 and it was right after the earthquake. [23:01] And I got to see giant sections of the highway that had collapsed on top of cars. You could see it. It was all the highways were collapsed right in front of you. You could see where they collapsed. And I was like, I am never going that way. Whatever needs to be done that way, I'm going all the way to fuck around. I am not gonna be on the bottom of that thing. I don't even want to be on the top and ride it out. I think you'll die that way too, but the people on the bottom are dead as fuck They're there definitely go dig it. He dead as fuck That's a terrible way to die or to be on to be in some building that collapses some of the bridge some of the bridges would fall off and people would just drop You see them the cars just drop what has happened in Baltimore bro. Oh, yeah, yeah Oh yeah, yeah Fuck that in a place where there's earthquakes And how about bro that's Taiwan right Taiwan just had a big ass earthquake 7.5 [24:02] What did that happen just now just like a couple days ago? Wow look at that look at that building man I mean in fact this is even still up. is kind of crazy. And bro, what kind of building goes that got in Taiwan? Wow. Damn, all these buildings, fucking stood to... Yeah, a lot of buildings stood, but a lot of buildings didn't. See, the whole thing with buildings, like if you make a building in California, you have to, you have earthquake regulations. You have to make your building sturdy in a way that's supposed to be able to tolerate at least a little bit of Yeah, but who's the same? I mean, well, who but how did they know you didn't until everybody did? I had a problem with the house I had once and the the contractors had cut corners all over the place We didn't realize it until we moved in and then became a real problem real pain the ass He was like who the fuck? fuck, how can somebody on the take? How can somebody not catch all this stuff? But it's just they don't, they just don't have the time, the regulators don't have the time, it's not enough money to go and check everybody. And that's why when people say you don't need regulation with construction, I'm like, listen bitch, you need that shit. [25:01] Those dudes are shady. If you don't, if you don't, yeah. Yeah, it's a countdown to building a folder. I should be real clear. I know some great guys that are contractors. I know some awesome people that build houses and build buildings and they're great people and they're super ethical, but I've also met so many shady ones. I don't know any good ones. They're all, no, I'm not. No, no, no. I think it's like three out of ten or shady. That's what I think. At least somewhat shady. And it's just fucking, it's a hard world to navigate if you don't know somebody. You know, if you know a guy and you can tell you, I got a fucking great contract. He's an awesome guy, you love him. And you're like, woo, okay. Now I'm in business with someone I really like to see. I like that. Yeah, I mean, well, it's a business where the only way for you to make more money is to fuck over your customer. To make more money than you're supposed to. Right. Like after you've already agreed on the money. Yeah. The only other way for you to make more money, like you're not getting tipped at them. I know. It's almost like there's a fine line between someone who charges too much, but they do an amazing job. I'd rather deal with that person. I'd rather deal with that person as well. [26:06] Yeah, I wanted someone to be, I wanted them to be compensated for their work and I wanted them to feel proud of what they do. You know, I have a friend who's a carpenter and he'll talk about buildings, he'll show me pictures of shit. It's like, this is a beautiful house that this guy created and it's like for him, it's like a bit that killed. Yeah, it's like a bit. So we were this house we made for this guy and he's showing me the pictures and my man, that's incredible. You know the problem too is, is when you're, especially when you talk about hiring people to build a house for you, they know how much money you work on me. So they know they can squeeze you here, squeeze you there, you know? Yeah, they definitely, in some cases they do. They know what they can get away with and what they can't. Oh yeah, it's the rich, when people think you rich, they always charge extra and... Some people do, but some people don't. And the people that don't, you really appreciate. Some people give you free stuff. Yeah, but there are definitely people that try to take advantage of you. And it's kind of gross. So like, come on man. Yeah, but I think people don't, people don't know better. They've got to know better. They just, there's a weird, that's [27:09] a weird, um, if you're charging someone more because you think the person's more successful, you're doing this weird thing like they owe you more. Like they don't care. Like this is like, come on, we're just supposed to be people. Like do you have a charge for your goods and services? Oh yeah, that's like, you know this? That's like people that think you owe them your privacy. With this, yeah. No front until your family at Disneyland. Right, right. Hey man, I want me to interrupt, but you interrupt. Yeah. I'm with my kids. I get how people just think this is their one chance to say hi. That's what it is. That's what it is. Oh shit, is there one chance? And I get it. It's just like, sometimes you can't do it. But it's like when you see, it's almost like when you see Indiana Jones sitting there with the bag trying to stop it out real quick. You can just leave it there. Indiana. The fuck out of there. Yeah, but I can do it. You're a professor. It's a lot of pressure of like, but get that. But, you know, [28:07] it's a price that you pay. Price, we're like, price of fame. Yeah, it's weird life. It's a price you pay. It was a great life, though. It's well, listen, we, we are the luckiest people alive. We get to do what we love to do. I'm, I get to hang out with each other. I laugh so much in the mothership green room. It really is, it's the place I laugh the most. Me too, me too. Yeah, it's crazy. Especially after sets. Before sets. Between shows, between the legroom shows. Yeah, it's the best time. Yeah, because we're primed. We've already gotten off stage. Especially if Tony's had a good set. He gets the ball rolling. Yeah if Tony's had a good set. Yeah. Ha ha ha. He gets the ball rolling. Yeah, he's not upset at anybody. Can you fucking believe this? Ha ha ha. He is a fire brand. Let me tell you. Bro, him and Lucas are endless. When him and Lucas start roasting each other, it's endless. [29:01] It's endless. They never run out of shit to talk about. I thought they would look at this as proven to me that there's literally infinite ways to call someone gay. I don't think he's ever going, I don't think he's ever going, get to the last one. He just finds different references. Divella, you know, different references. Yeah, it's just the two of them just laughing and going at each other. I swear to God when when I'm a guest on Kill Tony and David and Tony are roasting each other, it's harder than I ever laugh at anything because it's in the moment and I know they're slinging. They're they're shooting from the hip. Oh yeah. Just using their brain, you know, and killing each other. And sometimes we get a little we get a little private one in the game. Yes, we get those all the time. We got that last night. But it's just the reaction. It's just so fun, man. Fuck. We're so lucky to kill Tony's here, too. You know, dude, that show is so important. It's so important just to let people know, [30:00] like it's just about being funny. I know there's all this other stuff that gets wrapped up into it because you're trying to establish your identity and you're trying to let people know how you feel about things and you wanna make sure everybody knows you're on the right side. But really what you should be doing is just doing comedy. Do comedy. And if you figure out a way to make your points hilarious, great, yeah, make all the points in the world. But they gotta be funny. And when you do Killatone, you have one minute. You got one minute. And it sort of establishes an ideal in these young comics minds that hey, it's really just about making these people laugh. And if I can get good enough where I can make my ideas funny and I can make these people laugh with ideas. That's like what you do. That's like black belt shit. Well it kills me that. Because the amount of balls it takes for the amount of people that go on Killtony and it's the first time doing comedy ever, I might put that so head of a way to do your first open mic is in front of millions of people. [31:03] Yeah, that's a crazy way to do an open mic. It doesn't make any sense. But if you can do it, wow, what a feeling that must be. And we've seen people do it. We've seen people change their lives. Yeah, if you nail it. But William Montgomery is killing it on the road right now. He's killing it. He's selling hours doing a whole hour. We mean, we saw him we saw him when the odds are killing it We saw William when he had to have notes on stage and we remember we kept telling him yeah You can't have notes on stage you can't hold your notes and read them and Some people say no that's a part of his act. They're gonna. It's holding him back Because on kill Tony doesn't have the notes he comes out and stairs the audience down and he's dangerous and he's weird I'm like that's you when you're at your best He said I'm like, that's you when you're at your best He said, I'm worried I'm gonna forget my jokes ago. You're not gonna forget your jokes. You do them every night You're your professional comedian. This is part of the thing you have to learn like you can't race in Le Mans with training wheels on [32:03] You can't yeah, William's been he's been on a fucking tear lately. He's killing it. Yeah. You know, when the Black Keys came into town, they're huge William Montgomery fans. And that's was so crazy. So he got a shot out of it. He got a shot out of the post-fight interview. Yes, he does the boy. Yeah, then the Black Keys are huge William fans. Yeah, he did our show that night specifically because they requested him. Oh, wow. Yeah, the show is full So I but I was like, yeah, let's go They need to see this everybody loves that more for him. He's awesome. He's awesome and he's so unique There's only one William Montgomery. That's a unique dude. He's so busy. I never really see him every time he hugs me I'm worried he's gonna stab He gives you the weirdest hugs. There are a hug like he's thinking about stabbing you. Yeah, yeah, I think he's like, he's not like, he don't have like medium, twitch muscle fibers, I think he's missing. Cause it's so they can't hug, they can either do it as gentle as possible. Or, or, doesn't have the ability to give you like a nice [33:05] one he just embracing hug it's either smash or gently touch he hugs you like he about to suplex you yeah like you're we're we're gonna scuffle yeah but he does it to everybody good yeah good fun yeah and then some of the some of the other newer like I think all I think all the dual guys are funny pretty much I haven't seen miles in a while, but I keep hearing he's killing. Yo, Miles is on a whole other tear, man. Cause he's one of those people that's like, he's different. Hmm, he's real different. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, so is Casey Rocket? Well, that's, yeah, Casey's figuring it out too. Like he's got a thing where I was like, I don't know if he can do that for a long time. I think he can. He's figuring that out. I think he also can do different things in between doing that. He can go anyway he wants. He's doing this one way now where's hyper energetic, but that doesn't mean that's how he has to do it. He's funny. Oh, he's got so much energy. Yeah, he's in. [34:05] He's killing, but he's like, I'm so learning how to do it. I purposely go out of my way to never write a joke where I needed to do a backflip. Ah! You know what I mean? And it's like, both, he's got so much energy in the act. I said this to Shane Gillis last night while you were on stage I go there's no one in the world who kills more effortlessly than Brian Simpson. Oh, wow Because you have a casual killing you're casually killing oh, yeah, you don't get hyped up And when it it actually it's interesting in your style because it actually puts more weight on Any criticism you put on something. Oh, yeah, that is my first 10 years in comedy. I wasn't sleeping. He tired of it. So I was just tired all the time and I just learned, that's just how I've learned to do it. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Yeah, I didn't get good sleep for years. I finally got the CPAP machine like five years ago. [35:04] I couldn't believe it. Yeah, big difference. Oh man, it's huge. It changed Joey. Some people have him and they're like, yeah, but I don't use him. How do you not use him? I tried it once, I didn't like it. But I have a mouthpiece that I sleep with. How does that work? It presses my tongue down. So the mouthpiece is fit to my lower teeth. And there's a tongue depressor, and it keeps my airway open. Oh, yeah, see. I try to do to have big necks, like football players, almost all those dudes have sleep apnea. It's a big neck thing. And it runs in my family, the big neck. You have a big neck. Yeah. And look at all this tissue. And if you have, you You know, a big tongue, I have a pretty fat tongue, and this neck and the hole is not as big as it probably would be if I had a skinny neck. Oh, I see what you're saying here. You know, like your neck is tissue. This is all fucking stuff. I build that up with exercises. Does it work though? The mouthpiece? It keeps my airwale open. [36:01] I sleep great with it. But if I don't have it, man, I snore, it's horrible. I'm pretty sure I tried to get one of those, but then they mailed me a kit that I had to do other stuff. And I'm like, yeah, you have to form it to your teeth. You lost me. Step two, like I can't undo step two. You could go to a dentist though, and they'll do it. Oh, okay. I think I need to do that. I'll set you up. I got a dentist. It does it for me. I had a dinner with my audiologist for my ear in ear monitors Yeah, that's I didn't know that you could do shit like that Yeah, the in ear monitors with a format to your ear. Oh, man. That's one of the best choices. I have a long time Yeah, I have that for the UFC So when I'm at the UFC, they made me one so when I put it on its mind it fits right in my ear point perfect. There's nothing better than nothing goes better than that Bro, that's the worst thing about cauliflower ear those dudes are fucked When you get crazy cauliflower ear like I was talking to this one of our guys at the security guys at the club They're all MMA guys to use you guys and one of them has these fucked up ears [37:02] And I'm like, but you can't hear good right right? He's like, it's not as good. It's definitely not as good. Like that's big. Can he get him drained? His are gone. His are hard. They become calcified. So what happens is the blood pulls up. Your ear gets broken, right? And the tissue separates and blood fills it. And that blood over time will become calcified so it literally becomes rock. It feels like rock. I have little bits of it but when I trained most of the time when I trained I wore ear guards like wrestling ear guards just because I didn't want to fuck my ears up because if you just go like this and you talk like this normal you hear things but if you go like this and talk like that you're missing something. You're missing some sound and you don't realize you're missing it until you let your ear go. You're, oh, now here at all. Well, you're giving that. That's you forever. Forever. Now you have rocks on the outside of your ears. So all this design that God created to let us hear. [38:02] So brilliantly, where it captures sounds and rolls them around and it goes inside your ear. All that's gone. Now you get rocks. That's one of those new earphones that goes outside the ear. Not brand new but if anyone's listening and has this problem this is called a jaw induction headphone. So it creates sound frequencies that bounce off the bones inside your head. And so it works even if you have fucked up ears? Yeah, because it's not going through the ear. And is that for any sound or is that for like listening to music and shit? It's good for listening to music, but like technically it will emit sound. So like if you're next to this person you'll be able to hear it too. But not perfectly, but it's made for the person that's wearing it. You know what's really incredible though? Have you, do you know what game ears are? You know what tactical headphones where you can listen to people talk, but it has like, Oh, that's a Phil technology in there that stops the sound from being louder than a certain volume. [39:02] Right. So when someone's shooting a gun, it's never that loud. Right, right, right. You know those? Yeah. You can hear so much better with those things. Because they also, so you create a gate, a frequency gate where it's like anything below that frequency, it brings it up, anything above it, it brings it down. So people put these on when they go hunting, and they turn them on, and you can hear shit like multiple times more than you would be able to hear normally. So you could hear footsteps. So I give a deer, like if you're in a tree stand, you're just sitting up there with your rifle and a tree stand, you're listening around constantly. You ever do that? You ever tree stand, huh? Uh oh no, it's a mind fuck. I was wearing those when I was working a... 50 decibels of hearing enhancement. It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, I've used them before. It's crazy. I wore those on the right phone. Not the, not the, but they were like over here. Yeah, yeah. But it was like, you can hear people, you walk away from people and they go, fuck you, fucking bitch. Yeah, you hear all of it. Well, you have to, I about what you react to because you don't, people don't need to know that you can hear them. Right. You know, and if you give it away, [40:08] Yeah, that's a problem. The cat's out the bag. Yeah, you gotta guess. Yeah. It taught me patience, so I'm like, oh, that wasn't for me to hear. That was just him getting his frustration, you know? Yeah. I don't need to react to that. Yeah, fuck him. I'd rather wait until somebody goes, I'm about to shoot just by the fuck. Right. Then, now you know. Yeah, and then the secret's out. If you have those headphones on, man, it's really bizarre because you can hear things that you can't normally hear. It feels like superhero. Yeah, but you can also shoot guns and it doesn't hurt your ears. It's weird. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing that somebody figured that out. But anyway, man, if you got bad ears, like your ears get calcified, you definitely, it's gonna change what things sound like. It's a price to pay to be dangerous. Yeah, I guess. You know, I mean, you can wear ear guards. I just didn't understand. Yeah, they suck. [41:01] I hate them, they cut your chin, they're fucking, they irritate your head, but to me it was like, I had these nice ones that were vinyl and they were just designed for Jiu-Jitsu, so they were flat to your head. Oh, okay. And they were really comfortable. So what I was doing was seeing the pussy move, pussy move, guys like cauliflower ear too. Let's people know. Like I said, I'd look tougher if I had cauliflower ears. Yeah, but I don't know if that's worth it. It's not worth it. It wasn't worth it to me. But I'm also not a professional. You know what I'm saying? If you're a professional and your ear gets fucked up, you're back in training the next day. There's no, oh, I gotta get this drain and take six months off and let it heal. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up and get back in there, dude. You're our professional fighter. I'm just a comedian. So for me, it's like, I gotta mitigate what gets fucked up. You know, people love those things, though. It's like a badge of courage. [42:02] They walk around with a cauliflower ear and then like everybody knows I know how to fuck people up Damn so you so then you know what that means is definitely people Getting the fake cauliflower. They get ear injections so they can look well All you have to do is damage your ear you could do it pretty easily Especially with some people it's it's real different, you know Some people don't get cauliflower ear. They don't even train with the ear guards don't mess with me In some people they'll they'll break their their ears and they'll fucking they'll do things to their ears on purpose So they can probably get it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they'll take a jujitsu belt and they just fucking smash their ear and they're trying to give them self-c cauliflower People have definitely done that. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah I them self-calf out here. People have definitely done that. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. I've also met guys who are white belts who just started who got caught out here and they never did anything about it. They got this big lump on their ear. I don't know. And they're terrible. And then there's people that do it for decades and don't get anything. Yeah, but it's rare. It's pretty rare. Or you're just like really elite at defense. There's some guys that are so good at defense, you just never really catch their head. [43:05] But usually you would think that you would catch their head early on in their career before they figured out how to be really good defensively and technically. But there's certain guys like good luck getting the hold of Marcello Garcia's neck. Unless you're a lot bigger than I'm like Robert Drysdale, someone like that who tapped him. You know, that guy was a wizard. Like when you're that fat, you ever see Marcelo Garcia? Okay. I wanted to show you this one time where I saw him live in Brazil in 2003 where Eddie was competing for, it was at the Abu Dhabi World Championships. And this is the year that Marcelo Garcia burst onto the scene. People didn't know who he was. Is this the same year where Eddie- Yes. He tried and got hoiler. Yeah, so Good get Marcel Garcia versus What's that you have it? Okay, no, no, that's just that's just him. They're just training Shaolin Shaolin, he barrel Marcel Garcia Shaolin [44:03] So this dude Shaolin who's a Hibero R.I.B.E. R.O. Shaolin is a legendary Jiu Jitsu guy like super high level blackpull. So for him to do this is Shaolin is so insane You got to see this move. He just spun took his back and strangled him unconscious fun took his back and strangled him unconscious. And this is like instantly in the beginning of the match. This match happened, it's like 30 seconds, and he puts him to sleep. Watch that again, because that scramble is, he does an arm drag. Go to the from the beginning. You just go from the beginning, because it's so quick anyway. So he does an arm drag. Marcel Garcia is in the rash guard. He does an arm drag on his right arm. Look at this. Watch how he turns, turns, turns, turns, keeps going, turns, keeps rolling, keeps rolling, gets the back, gets the hooks in, super strong legs. Now he's got the hook in and now he's securing the neck [45:01] and he's gonna hang on and he's gonna just fucking crush him to sleep and he's asleep right there Dude that is so insane Yeah, that is so insane that that is one of the most legendary finishing Sequences in all of Jujitsu history because that was like the moment Marcelo Garcia who's like one of the greatest of all time Burst onto the scene And he just locked in. Yeah, so that guy, even he has cauliflower here. Oh, as good as he is, as good as he is. Yeah, you can't, it seems like unavoidable. Yeah, some guys don't get it. It's weird. And some guys are just real big guys. Some real big guys never get caught, you know? Real strong guys. Well that's why like every time I see somebody what color fiber is, like I know two things. I know one, they can probably fight almost definitely. And two, they have some kind of old nagging injury that they hope and not on this level. You know what I mean? Like all the most dangerous dudes, [46:01] like if anyone hits me in my fucking left knee. Right, yeah. They will foe me to fuck up. most dangerous dudes like if anyone hits me in my fucking left knee right yeah they will foe me to fuck up so I'm that's why I'm scared that's why I don't fuck with those people like old dude don't fuck with them because they gonna fight they gonna give you everything they got so take so cuz they don't want you they don't want to fight the ghosts so long that you find that injury yeah also like don't just be fucking what people think it's a fair fight people People stab people, they shoot people, just don't do it, just don't do it, man. If you wanna prove yourself, go to a gym, right? Go to a gym, learn how to fight, and then you will lose all of your desire to do that in a bar. Especially after 30. I don't give a fuck of your 20, don't do it. Don't fucking do it, man. It's how people die. It's how people get locked up in jail for the rest of their lives. It's tough. 20-somethings though, they can't. You can't tell, it's 20-somethings. Yeah, you can. I listened. Yeah, I listened. I was terrified of fights when I was in my 20s, and I knew how to fight. I didn't want to go anywhere. I'm like, out, exit please. I'm not fighting anybody. I'm getting the fuck out of here. [47:06] Yeah. I knew that early, early on because I knew guys growing up in Boston, going to high school in Newton, which is outside of Boston. I spent most of my time in Boston because that's where I did Taikwondo. I met some hard fucking dudes, some hard, hard men. One of the guys that I met was a fucking hitman for whiteie bulger. He was a guy I was training. I was teaching him Taekwondo and he was a hitman. Like well known that he was in the Irish mob, well known and he was taken in Taekwondo classes. I was around people like, so in my mind any man that you just have some confrontation with and let's see even if you beat his ass that's not the end of it. He's going to come find you. This idea that you could just do something to someone and there's no consequences ever. They could be a year from now, two years from now, five [48:01] years from now. You're going to be looking over the shoulder for the rest of your life. What are you fucking stupid? Just get away. Don't fight with people. Don't argue with people. Yes, Mark. Don't piss people off. We'd all be better off if people didn't have this desire to control themselves. And that's what you get rid of when you go to the gym. When you learn Jiu-Jitsu, when you learn a martial art, and you don't have this desire to test yourself all the time, because you're constantly being tested. When you go out, you just wanna have fun and chill. Yeah, most of the fighters I've met, I've met a lot of fighters since I've been to the Littier now. Most of them are pretty chill. Super chill. You say, almost, I think all the security people that mother super chill all jujitsu guys and they all and you wouldn't even know like I know one of the guys was like some kind of champion You know and he was like and you would never know it they so humble yeah and respectful What's cuz they get challenged all the time? They don't want to do it like in real life Yeah, it's like the real challenge is challenged against skilled people [49:08] When you're doing that all the time when you're rolling with black belts and you're fighting off triangles and triangles turns into an arm bar and you're like barely escaping and then you get side control. You're battling all day long. You're battling in your head after the class. You're going, oh, how did he catch me? How did I do that? Why did I do that? My left foot. Fuck. And you're trying to figure out what you did wrong and what you did right. You don't wanna get enough fight in a bar. You wanna go have fun. If you would go to a bar with a bunch of jiu-jitsu people, they're all laughing. They wanna have a good time. They say thank people. They get it all out, man. You gotta get it all out. And if you wanna get it all out at a bar, man, you're gonna get killed. There's a confidence that comes from knowing exactly where you stand. Where it's like, oh, I know that that dude can beat my ass. Like I know for sure. Cause he's done it every day for the last six. You know what I mean? [50:00] And just knowing you don't go out with this insecurity about you. Right. I think most of them. Most of them. Yeah. I mean, there's a wild dudes that get involved in cage fighting. But overall, I feel they are exceptional human beings. And I know that sounds crazy for someone who thinks it's barbaric. But you have to understand that the character development involved in becoming a guy like a Dustin Porier. You want to be that good. character development involved in becoming a guy like a Dustin Porier. You want to be that good. The fucking fire you have to go through to be at a world-class level for as long as that guy's been doing it. And be that good right now. You know what, man, that's an exceptional human being. Exceptional. There's not a lot of those out there. And when you meet those guys, you're out with those guys. They're the fucking nicest guys. They're cool, they're calm, they have their shit together. They're even Sean Strickland. Everybody thinks he's crazy and he says a bunch of wild shit. Sean is a great guy. He's a nice guy. He's a real smart dude who had a fucked up childhood and he's an [51:03] excellent professional fighter and he's a nice guy. If you're childhood, and he's an excellent professional fighter, and he's a nice guy. If you're nice to him, he's a nice guy. He's fun. He's fun. But, you know, in the street, if you find that guy, and you talk shit to him, for no reason, he's gonna put you in the hospital. He's gonna put you in the hospital, and you can't do a goddamn thing about it. You don't even have a chance. You have nothing. You have zero chance. This idea, oh fuck it, these guys can't fight. I don't know how to fight. Shut your mouth. You have no idea what you're talking about. Wait, if we shouldn't be out talking shit to people with my Tyson people talk shit to people are there's some certain people that are just crazy. Well speaking of Mike Tyson, these people they think that he don't stand a chance against Jake Portland, like this shouldn't even like he because he's too old. I think you're crazy. Well, they're definitely uninformed. Yeah. Because the [52:02] here's the thing he is 57 years old. He will be 58 when they fight He has had a long fight in career He has been knocked out by massive men like Lennox Lewis and a vendor Holyfield You know, he's had a lot of blows and you know, it's long you know long past the time Where most people ever fight you know know, the only person that ever fought competitively at after age 50 is Bernard Hopkins and Archie Moore. Archie Moore did it back in the form and was 40. Foreman was in his 50s, I believe when he had his last fight, was he? He won the title, he's a... I'm glad someone was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Foreman was the once in a ice and glasses and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Foreman captured the heavyweight title at the oldest age, which was 46 when he fought Michael Moore. He hit him with this perfect right hand. It was crazy. That's okay. That's that bodega cat. That's Mark Norman stuff. [53:00] We got some good shit, though. So how old was he? 48. So his last fight when he fought Shannon Briggs, Shannon the Canon, shout out to Shannon. Well, let's go champ. So he beat Lou Savarees. He was 48 years old. What a crazy. Crazy. Crazy. And he knocked out Michael Moore. He was 45. So he was the oldest man ever to win the heavyweight title at age 45 and you got to realize like that's a real 45 That's not like a 45 today The 45 today is 45 with testosterone replacement and he'll grow with hormone and peptide What that's what I'm saying my this might Tyson yeah, he 57, but he got access to Everything and he's also doing this very unique kind of training with electrical muscular stimulation that I've talked to some people that do that. And it has massive benefits of rehabilitating injuries. And it also for a lot of people gives them significant gains when they use it as opposed [54:04] to just using weight lifting. I don't know too much about the science behind it. When Jamie comes back, we'll have him look it up, but you slap electrodes onto yourself. They put these pads on you and it's hooked up to a machine. And while the electricity is going into your muscles, you're doing exercises. So while you're getting jolted, you're doing squats and you're like dead lifts. You're doing all this shit while you're connected to this Thing that's stimulating your muscles, but isn't Isn't that Aren't cuz my main concern would be I guess in my head It's like what if the electricity the timing is off and it And it goes to contract your muscle at a time where you're trying to. I think it's constantly contracted. And I think you're fighting through that. I don't know, I haven't done it. I'm talking about my ass. What is that thing that Mike Tyson does where he gets connected to like an electrical muscular stimulation machine? I've seen it in training footage. [55:02] And I know from talking to the guy that was telling me about cheers my brother congratulations I'm special thank you it's awesome so happy to see you killing it. Oh, not bad. This is I think this is the jack car stuff. Yeah, that's not bad. No this is bow cones. Texas pot still bourbon that's legit mm-hmm. Yeah, this is the this is real. It's legit. Yeah That's good stuff we just talking about George forming my Tyson here. Yeah, so they do this thing where they slap Chuck Zito They do this thing where they slap Chuck Zito. They do this thing where they slap these electrodes on them. Chuck Zito is a giant fight fan. Check out the chat. Oh wait, oh this is now. Yeah. So they put these electrodes on them and they have them perform different exercises. New fit. N-E-U-F-I-T. [56:02] And so they have this machine, okay, a breakthrough in neuromuscular electrical stimulation devices utilizing direct current. So it's this device that uses an updated form of neuromuscular electrical stimulation to send electrical impulses through the skin to the nerves, resulting in muscle contractions and sensory impulses. The NMES technology mitigates the action potentials of both peripheral and central nervous system, allowing for communication with virtually all parts of the body. The impulses stimulate muscles and other tissues, including contractile and sensory muscle fibers, and sensory and motor neurons, the stimulation also leads to increased blood flow in the areas where it's applied. So, I know Tyson was doing that before the Roy Jones fight when he was training. I believe he's doing that now, too. But that's interesting, right? Because you would want to do like everything you can [57:01] with a 57-year-old body to get it ready to do that. Yeah. I don't think people know you don't lose that much ability. You know, you have to understand who you're talking about. But what does change though is your ability to recover. Yes. Right. And then the amount of damage you can take. Yes. That's what changes. But he can still fucking destroy that guy. The thing about the amount of damage you can take, that's also, that's all in comparison to how much damage you took in your life. Right, there's certain guys that as they get older, it's very disturbing, because you see them get touched with a punch and they just go out. You'll see that with like some you know, some older MMA fighters. I thought that would check with Bill. Yes. Where was like, nobody could knock him out. Nobody. And then it was like anyone could. In his prime, he was ferocious, dude. He had an iron chin and ferocious power and just this warrior mentality. [58:01] He was just chasing you down. He was hunting you inside that cage. Everybody. But then he went with an iron chin. Eventually they started to mock up because the reason you know they have an iron chin is because you've seen them take some. There was this dude in boxing. His name was Doug DeWitt. And Doug DeWitt was not the best fighter in the world, but he had the best chin of all time. Dude's would tee off on Doug DeWitt, and it was like nothing happened. He was crazy. He was known for his ability to take a punch. And then one day, it just went away. One day it went away. And one day he just got dropped and knocked out. And then he just couldn't take shots anymore. It just gave out. It just gave out like a bad suspension. Yeah, you got it. So you can find Doug DeWitt highlights. This was born with 50 knockouts in you. This dude had a thousand knockouts in him. Like you couldn't knock him out. He was getting hit clean in the face by murderous and you couldn't stop him. It was weird and he was known for that. [59:00] Like if a guy was gonna fight Doug DeWitt, you know, you knew he was a good fighter, but you knew that the thing about him is, he had the craziest chin of all time. He was known for it. I don't think that's Doug Duitt. That's Nigel Ben. Is that Doug Duitt? No, that's not Doug Duitt, dude. It's a different guy. Different guy. There you go. It's just a real part of that. Oh, no, no, yeah. Because these are all, this is Nigel Ben, who was a real destroyer man. He was a fucking murderous, murderous puncher. I can't find this. Thomas Hernd vs. Doug Duitt. That's kind of the same thing that just happened. Let me see. So Thomas Hernds, one of the greatest knockout artists of all time. Yeah, and that's how I got dug to it. So he was 25, so this one dug to it, still had an iron chin. Should not be fighting Thomas Hurns. Like, let me set this up. This is a terrible matchup. Scoot your head a little bit. [1:00:00] Is this, is this one where he finally gets knocked out? I don't know. But Doug Dewey was a very solid fighter, but Tommy Harnes is just next level. Tommy Harnes has the most ridiculous back. Look at that back. That's where that power comes from, dude. Look how wide he is. So when Tommy was 147, I think this was a middleweight fight, which was 160, but you gotta realize like Tommy when he fought sugar ray. He was 147 When he fought like Papino Quavis and all those other dudes dude. He was he was very light. He was but he was that tall with that kind of power So look at the Tommy Harnes is teeing off on Doug do it I'm telling you most people who fought Doug to it were stunned by the amount of power that guy could just absorb. He's a really good fighter and he wasn't like he was a bad fighter. He just wasn't like world championship caliber. [1:01:01] Where is he now? Who knows man? It's not good at the end. No. It's not good at the end. I was reading about this boxer from the 80s who was living in LA and you know they would have to almost like put string on him to make sure he didn't travel too far away from the house. Like he would get lost on his block. He didn't know what was going on. He's just his brain is just gone. It's just gone. You had a price they pay, man. It's the craziest price. Chance at greatness. The craziest price, and you never know when you've crossed a line. You never know when you've crossed a line into your brain's not gonna return. You know? In the beginning, you don't even notice a slip. You know? You're just like, I'm just tired from training. You know? You don't even notice. You know, and other people start noticing it. And maybe you have a drink and you can't really form sentences that well. You know? Like one drink and all of a sudden you're slurring your words. And everybody's like, what's going on with Mike? Ah He just had a couple. He had one fucking drink, like he's slurring his words, [1:02:05] like something's going on. That's like one of the first things you see. And then it keeps going. The damage doesn't get better over time. It gets worse. And they say that a lot of the brain damage doesn't even show itself till years after the actual impact of whatever the fuck happened. Yeah. Dude start doing wild shit, they start gambling, start doing coke, start going crazy. But then some people are just fine, right? Some people are fine. Yeah, that's weird. It's weird. Some people retire and they had long careers and they could talk fine and they're great. You know, look at Andre Ward. And you can see like whatever brain cells fully made with his father had left. He was like, I'm gonna make sure this don't happen to my son. Yeah. Yeah. Of course he had to. Of course he had the most defensive fighter of all time. It's like, he's son, this is what happens when you get hit. Yeah. Or also just like, seeing it, seeing it from his uncle, [1:03:01] Uncle Roger. Oh, that's what I mean. Yeah, his uncle, Uncle Roger. Oh, that's what I mean. Yeah, his uncle. Yeah. He sounds drunk all the time. Well, he's dead now. Yeah. He died, unfortunately. Roger made one of those awesome in his prime man. Black Mamba, he was another dude. He was different than Floyd. He was a crazy knockout artist. He was he Roger Fowell? Oh, yeah, yeah. trainer. And he's got that famous quote, most people don't know shit about boxing. He's true. He's right. He's 100% right. I don't. I know like, I barely do. Just the sign, but I know that I do know, I know enough about boxing where I feel like when I'm watching a good boxing match, what I'm enjoying is not what the average person. Right. Most people just want to see two big dudes in the middle of the ring just so punches. Right. You know, they don't care about the strategy of it. Right. But I like to watch, you know, I like to watch the breakdowns of people. I do too. The footwork and why his feet are right there. And this one dude made a really good breakdown of how Anthony Joshua caught Francis and Gano. It's really good. Yeah. It's really good because he talks about how Joshua was setting up [1:04:06] these reactions by jabbing to the body and how he's jabbing to the body and how Francis would dip his left arm and like throw a hook and then he was like trying to block the shot to the body and dip his arm through a hook. So he timed it right way, fainted the jab to the body. Francis reacted and he hit him with a perfect right hand and you see in the breakdown how he set it up and like that is boxing. That's real boxing. That's not just a big guy who can punch, but that's like super sophisticated chess playing in the middle of this high consequence scenario with a giant knockouts trigger. And some people are like levels above that. You know? Well, that's Usik. Usik is level above Anthony Joshua, because he boxed this shit out of Joshua, two fights in a row, and had him in trouble. And the first fight in particular, had him in trouble, man. He had Joshua real in. And he was all over him. And Usik is really a cruiserweight. He's not even that big. He's small for a heavyweight. You know, Usik was fighting, I think, at 197 and then he went up to fight heavyweights. [1:05:10] So like when he stands next to these guys, he's so much smaller than that. That's why the part of me deep down I wish boxing had like a UFC type. Right. Like I wish someone could make the top guys fight each other. Well they can't even do that in MMA. You know look, Francis is now at the PFL and you've got other people over at Bellator and I guess Bellator and the PFL are one thing now. But you have to be huge to not do it in the UFC. It's real tough to be famous. The problem is if you're outside of the UFC, you could be not famous and make more money. That is true. Like this is a factor you have to think about guys that kind of didn't do as well as the top guys in the UFC, but they're still elite MMA fighters. [1:06:00] Think over the PFL and when that tournament make a million dollars. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And then I'm man over there, the Think over the PFL and when that tournament make a million dollars. Yeah You know, yeah, and then I'm man over there the middle Eastman they throwing money at all manner entertainers and shit over here Yeah, um that one dude from Montreal Olivia Album Mercy. He I think he wanted twice I think he won the PFL tournament twice. He would definitely won it once He made he made a million dollars is dollars. Is that what I just saw, Mighty Mouse and like a no weight? No, that's, no. Mighty Mouse and a no weight was just a Jiu-Jitsu match. That was just Jiu-Jitsu. Mighty Mouse's wild. He just enters Jiu-Jitsu opens as a 155 pound man fought a 250 pound dude and strangled him. Yeah, and it looked it looked like it is incredible that size difference is incredible, but The he competes for one and one championship is this giant Organization in Asia and they have not just MMA fights, but they have kickboxing fights and grappling fights Like Gary Tonin is competed over there and grappling the Routolo brothers of the champions over there Mikey Musumachi [1:07:06] He competes over there and grappling they have a great app too by the way. Yeah, so there's that So there's there's places you can go but to be famous in America Yes, you have see everything else is just Unfortunately it pales in comparison the The UFC is like Q-tips, the NFL, you know, NBA is where you go to see professional basketball. If someone else wants to start a new basketball league, good fucking luck. Good luck. The UFC is singular. It's singular. It's just the most prominent business that's run the best. It's got the best machine behind it. It's got the most prominent business that's run the best. It's got the best machine behind it. It's got the most history behind it. They literally invented the sport in 1993 in America. Not invent the sport because, but they did put it in a cage, you put rules to it. Actually, I think they had cages in Brazil back then already. But I'm not sure if they might have had cages in Brazil [1:08:02] by then, but a lot of the fights in Brazil in the early days, they'd actually fight in a ring with a net. But what they did was they made it, they packaged it in a way that made it a major sport. Yes, instead of just like a blood sport, where people like something that was done in back alleys. 100%, right? They made it so like you could put it on TV. And that was the most brilliant move. I mean, they had to bring in the regulators and shit to kind of make that happen, but that's what made it what it is. Well, they also had a spin-off all-cloat of money. All-cloat of money. Yeah, I heard Dana saying that, they didn't make any money. Like, you did the first ones for free? Yeah, I did the first 12, 12 or 13 shows I did for free. Well, Dana became my friend and I knew there were a hemorrhaging money and I said, I don't need any money. I go just, just fly us out here. Fly us out here and get my friends tickets. So it was like me and Eddie Bravo would just fly out to the fight because we were flying out to the fights before I worked there. He would, like, he reached out to me because he knew I used to work for the UFC back in the day because I started working for the UFC in 97. That was the post-fight commentator. [1:09:09] Before Zufa. Oh, okay. So it was Zufa, but it was, no, it wasn't Zufa. It was S.E.J. I'm sorry. It's still Zufa, even though Zufa sold to WEM. So we were in these like small little places the middle of nowhere, and I did in the early days, I saw V-Tours debut, I saw Randy Cotours debut, Dan Henderson's debut. I mean, I was there for Chuck Lidell's debut. I was there for all these early early fights. I thought Carl's newton fight. I saw all these, like, the Alan Joe band, I mean, of course Alan Joe band. He was actually Eddie's jam. But I saw all these like great fighters fight, that he wasn't, Alan was like later, I was thinking of, fuck who was I thinking of? Alan Goez, that's right, Alan Goez was a jujitsu wizard who I got to see fight in the early days of the UFC. Most people don't even remember these guys. Like top level guys back in the day. And to me it was like I was a kid in a candy store But I was losing money doing it, you know like I could be at a comedy club on the road and I was still on news radio [1:10:10] It was I was busy, you know, and I did it for a while But it was like it was too much it was costing me money and it was I was the experience I had I was like this is fun But they were doing one in Japan and when they went to do the one in Japan, I'm like, I'm out. I'm not going to Japan for like a thousand dollars, whatever I got paid. Like I'm not going to Japan. So I quit and I stay a fan and then Dana contacts me in like 2001 and says, hey, we're gonna have the UFC in Vegas. We got tickets for if you wanna come. I'm like, holy shit, yeah, I'm gonna go. So in Eddie, we flew out to Vegas to watch the UFC. And so I did that for like the first one or two and then they had one on Fox and he said, would you do me a favor? And I said, what? He said, well, you do commentary for the one on Fox because it was on Fox Sports Net. It was like the Best Damned Sports Show period. [1:11:01] Do you remember that? They had like a UFC event. So I did that. It was UFC 37 and a half. 37 and a half? Yeah, that's what it was called. UFC 37 and a half. So I did that and that was the beginning and he goes, dude, please keep doing that. And I was like, okay, what's that? What's in it? Is that this? Is that the good thing? No, no, no. You want some? That's the, this is those Ron White's guards. It's a little baby's guard. Here you go, sorry. Good bye, see you. My man. But so that was, you know, that was 2002 or something. So when did you hit the point where he was like, hi, I want you to do it permanently. Yeah, I had a sign of contract. I was like, how many UFC's were you in before you were like, I think I'm gonna just do this? Well, I mean, it was like, like instead it was like 13 in it, I never asked for any money. And I was like, it's all right, man, I'm having a good time. I'm happy that you guys like what I do. I'm excited and I'm happy to be able to promote this sport. That's it June 22nd, who ended up in the surgery? That dude looks out of his depth. [1:12:06] You know what I mean? So that dude, that's Jeff Osborne. He was awesome. He also did a hook and shoot who's one of the one of the earlier MMA promotions that like Eve Edwards came out of there, Josh Nier came out of there. I had some real killers came out of those promotions. Like a Midwest fight. There was a bunch of those early on promotions. These small level promotions that a lot of guys came up in. Did I can't imagine being even in the Chucle de'O era. Like before that, before the UFC, what were fighters making? Nothing. Nothing. Chucle de'O when he had his first fights, he was fighting Bear Nuckle in Brazil. He fought Pele. Pele is this legendary member of Shoot the Box. You know, I know I've talked to you about Shoot the Box before, that's Anderson Silva, that's where Showgun came out of, I mean, that's a Huffle Coderra, [1:13:00] the guy who holds myths from Mike Tyson, he's from Shoot the Box. And now he runs Kings MMA. But this is this is, you know, we're like, this is probably like, what year is this? It's supposed to be like 95? 98. 98. Okay. So this is probably either right before Chucle de Del Faut in the UFC somewhere around that range, but he's fighting in Brazil, bare knuckle against a dude who's like a legend in Brazil like paylay was like look paylay took chuckle it del down how about that there's how dangerous his fucking dude is chuckle it'll never get taken down here he has mounted bear knuckle and this is a crazy ass fight man and chuck eventually gets all of it look how they have this setup where the ring at the bottom of it has a net in it. Bro, Paley's all over him. But now Chuck sneaks out the back door and Chuck was like a really good wrestler, but he used his wrestling to stand up. He just wanted to blast people because he also had a karate background. Now in these fights, you're allowed to headbutt, you're allowed to stomp, you're allowed to do everything. You got bare knuckles. You can even grab dicks. A lot of these dicks grabbed each [1:14:08] other in the dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Gary Goodrich did it to the Pedro. They're my signature move. Bro, he reached into his shorts and grabbed his cock. It's crushed his balls. Like it was crazy what people were doing. Damn, you allowed to squeeze balls. But they were in that promotion, it was like you could do anything, which is kind of crazy that nobody just I poked the shit out of each other. I think you weren't allowed to bite. Oh, you just start with the ball squeeze. Look, he just got thrown out of the fucking ring onto the ground. That's why the net is there to try to trap them while they're beating the shit out of the ground. I don't know, man. Some of them just were to the finish. That's a lot of them. I mean, early UFC's were all to the finish. It's at 33 minute video. Yeah, I think a lot of these fights were just battles of attrition and they went on as long as they went on. Brazil, when they were doing Valley Tudor, it was the purest form of MMA. It wasn't the same level that MMA is today, [1:15:06] but it was the purest form. Because these guys were bare knuckle, they would just wear like little fucking speedos, and they would do everything. You could kick, you could punch, you could stomp to the finish. You could elbow the back of the head, you get someone's back, you don't even have to sink in a choke. If you got someone's back with a hooks in, your hands all greasy did that one of his fights. He just got this dude's back and just blasted him with elbows in the head. Your back, your head is so vulnerable. And you have to see you're literally not even allowed to hit the back of the head. It's one area where you're not allowed to strike. That's how dangerous it is. And in the old days, they got in your mat and they go right for that spot. Boom, boom, boom. Yeah, that's gonna put you out. Oh, you're getting fucked up. So it was like a pure version of what actually works and what doesn't work. Because if you have no gloves on, punching changes, everything changes. Your ability to block punches changes. So if you go from like boxing gloves to MMA gloves, [1:16:02] there's a giant difference. But even if you go from MMA gloves to no gloves is a difference. Because it feels different on your face. It fucking hurts more. It hurts your hands more. It cuts you up. Everybody gets cut open. It's a much more realistic version of fighting. And that's what they were doing in Brazil. It didn't get like when they brought it to America when Hori and Grace created the UFC and brought it to America in 93 when they had their very first event They had to kind of do some rules. So they had a cage, you know, they had like, you know, but it was all No time limit every fight was to the fight was over See that's what's crazy to me every fight in the UFC those fights were hoist graces. He was armed on everybody and it was no weight There was no rounds. There was no weights. those fights were hoist grace he was arm-barring everybody and it was no weight there was no rounds there was no weights there was just hoist weighed 176 pounds that was his second profile he had already fought once in the UFC by then oh wow so UFC 17 in mobile Alabama with the decision over no ehernanas i was there for that so the next fight he did that bear [1:17:03] knuckle wow yes something i just found said it was a 30 minute, no rounds, no breaks, no gloves, very few rules. Wow. Headbutts, groin strikes, kicking the knees, the back of the downed opponent, strikes to the back of the head are all allowed. 1998. He was 28 years old, and he weighed 198 pounds. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. And that was back when it was no glory. No, very little fanfare. Very little fanfare. The UFC's weight limit was 200 back then. There was a 200 pound weight class. Like right around then they started putting in a weight class. So like when Tito or Tito was a champ, it was like I believe it was 200. And then they moved it up to 205 later. They changed it. But I think like when Frank Shamrock was a champ, I believe the weight class was 200. And you couldn't be over that? Yeah, that was like, I think there was like a couple of weight classes. I think they started instituting weight classes and they had like a 55 and then they had like a 70 and then they started sticking them all in there and then it became, you know, what it is today, which I still think is underweight classed. [1:18:06] I think they should have several more. I think they should have one higher. No, all throughout the range, I feel like this should be one every 10 pounds. And right now we have these giant gaps that don't necessarily make sense. Like we have a huge gap from 155 to 170. That's 15 pounds. That's a big difference in a human being. Like how much bigger and stronger a person is, how they can cut down to 170 versus a guy really weighs like 175 and he cuts to 170. It's like a giant difference, you know, it's 205 pound guys that can make that weight cut. I feel like if we add a 75, 85, so 55, 65, 75 205 225 heavyweight. That makes sense to me. So you say above to 25. Above to 25 should be whatever the fuck you way because right now it's not the right now the heavyweight limit as ridiculous as [1:19:01] it is as it is is 265 pounds. You can't weigh more than 265 pounds in a championship heavyweight fight. But even so, wait a minute. So the heavyweight division goes from 205 to 265. Exactly. That, that seems crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. When you got guys like Francis, it becomes crazy. Right, because it's here. Touch of death, six foot five two sixty five natural like Francis gets above two sixty five when he's not training but he's not allowed to be twenty fights when he fights he has to lean out so we so we saying ten pounds makes a difference in every other division except the biggest one. Well in the biggest one they just say hey decide what you are but you a light heavyweight or you a heavyweight. But isn't there a problem note that there's not enough Francis Sassmo fuckers running around? Right. And if they are, they're going to football. Right. Yeah. If you want to get like an elite American athlete that thinks he's going to have a future making millions of dollars and you're a six foot five kid and you're huge, You don't get into MMA and a lot of those guys they would have a hard time [1:20:07] making 265. How about that? Yeah. I'm brought with what what Francis and Gano even be in another sport. There's this kid that probably whatever the fuck he wants. Playing basketball right now for NC State. Is he Cameron? Is he Cameron? No, he's just really good basketball player. He's 6'9'2'75 and they're already like NFL scouts are trying to get him to play it. Wow. Instead of basketball. Yeah. Oh, you're a damn fool. You bet not. Yeah. Well, basketball, you don't get brain damage. You don't get brain damage and the contract's a fully guaranteed. So you're all your money's guaranteed if you get hurt all that. So that's better. The NFL will never do that. Yeah, they can't know if you if I'm I'm crazy. Yeah, if it's my kid and he and he gets the tools between the NFL and any other major sports I'm taking my other 100% all day for sure. Yeah, all day Those those knock in the baseball players. They make a tons of money all guarantee. Yeah. Yeah [1:21:02] So you if you hear a football player got a $50 million contract, it's not $50 million. It's you know, it's 10 million guarantee with bonuses of this and you know shit like that. But if you hear that a baseball player got a like that Japanese dude, did he just get a half a billion dollars? He's getting all that money every single penny. He deferred it just like Bobby Benia did, which is a pretty fun story. So the Japanese dude is that the due to is the gambling problem maybe is that a no you think somebody else is that that guy yeah show you Tony yeah show you time so that dude gambles yeah we're here with the story they said his interpreter took a bit or he says interpreter gamble okay let me ask you this do you think that the situation with someone like that, who comes from another country? Do you think that maybe organized crime comes with him? A little bit. I've heard that, but also there's a lot of... A little bit, a little bit like Yakuza action. I mean, that's definitely feasible, [1:22:02] just because his family's back there. Yeah. So it's's like if I want to Expllate you somehow also he might have a you know meaning for relationships with those people but also though a half a billion dollars Is enough to when you you are embossed at that point You just have somebody wiped out you can flip it on them, you know, I don't know if I'm if I'm worth half a billion dollars Ain't nobody telling me what the fuck I'm doing. Right. No way. Cause you can get to, cause you at that point now where you have power. Like that's kind of money that nobody's ex, no mob, no mafia boss is exploiting you when you're a billionaire. We just don't have it yet. Technically. Yeah, but that don't matter. Because, because he does, but I'm saying that in certain situations, like if you get in bed with organized crime and they help you in your career, like there was always insinuations that Frank Sinatra was involved in the mob, for instance. Oh right, right, yeah. You know, and you would imagine that like Frank Sinatra would probably be a terrible guy to piss off, [1:23:01] because he probably can contact some people and you probably can disappear. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. 100%. Right. So a guy like that, if you want to leave the connection with the mob, I bet that's pretty dicey. Yeah. I bet that's real dicey. So you just stay with them. But what would the mob do for a baseball player? I don't know. I don't know, but I would imagine, I mean, what are we talking about the Yakuza? I think most really sophisticated organized crime companies, you call them a company. I think they probably have strategies to maximize their income in all sorts of ways. Yeah. And they probably offer protection so that you don't have to worry about people fuck with you and in return, you give them a certain amount of money per month. Does it mean that's the cost of doing business where he lived? And I'm like, oh no, I'm leaving now. It's like, how did Japanese mob go and protect you in America? You don't think they can do things over here? [1:24:01] I mean, they probably could do a couple things, but they don't have like if you're gonna have someone walked that would be the coolest guy to have someone What but Japanese assassin right? Oh, but to be like I'm gonna protect you full time all over America. I don't know That's possible. Yeah, I don't know But half a billion dollars for playing a game. So what was a problem? They they said that he was gambling on something he should to gamble on? Is that what it is? Well, that's a multi-layered problem because first of all, he has an interpreter with him at like at all times, I think. So how much into his financial life, you know, does that guy have ability to get into do with things? And what was the accusation? I'm trying to find out the extra like, I know that I only know about it because Andrew Schultz had a joke. We were talking about him gambling. Well, I don't understand why he's not a lot of gamble. As long as he betting on himself to win, it's a hard rule to know and it's all. [1:25:02] Why you can't bet on yourself? Most sports actually That's a new rule the UFC what you can't gamble no one from the organization can gamble on the fights But what I'm saying is and that makes perfect sense yeah, but I'm saying the fighters should be a bit of gamble so long as they bet No, themselves to win Right, I think so, you know, yeah as long as they bet on themselves to win a football. I think so. You know, as long as it bet on themselves to win. A football player got in trouble for that recently. He was actually, he gambled on his team to win in a game that he wasn't playing in because he was hurt. And he got in trouble. I thought it was more than 4.5 million. I didn't want to state it without it. His claim was his interpreter took $ and a half million dollars to pay off gambling debts from a legal bookie. Oh, that's under federal investigation. So they were saying that it was his money and he was saying no, my former interpreter, he stole that money and he paid off his gambling debts. Right. That might be true. Some people don't believe the story. [1:26:01] They think that he was just gambling and blaming it on this guy. Says Otani would said he was unaware of the payments and never bet on sports with the bookie. Yeah, but even if that's true, it's like, okay, well, you're the fall guy. That's what was your job for the beginning. It's to go gamble for me so that it didn't get connected to me. It's a little, yeah, it's a little fishy. It does sound a little convenient. Well, convenient. You didn't notice four and a half million messing. Right. Until he got caught. So you fired him and didn't, but didn't, you fired him, but didn't say nothing about him gambling then. Right. Until he caught me. Right. Yeah. But it's like, that's what you're gonna take that fall. You know, he didn't do anything because they didn't you know they didn't take any of his money or Penalism in any way did they? Well if they can't definitively tie him to That I don't know what they can do. I don't know how that works if the guy they actually get the guy And they could get the guy to admit that he used the money and he embezzled the money I don't know what the story is it's how it could it sounds like oh, I don't believe but it could be true [1:27:05] Like we're just talking shit, but who how is baseball have that much money? People love it. I don't know anyone that watches baseball Not as they had number one sport some people love it. They love it. They love baseball. They live for a hundred Liver go Ari loves it. He loves going to the games loves it 10 billion dollars in revenue in 2020. Sure he is. $10 billion? Yeah. I have huge TV deal contracts because it's on all summer when there's another sports on. And there's 32 teams in games last three hours, you know? It's also casual sport watching. Sports betting. So you watch baseball where you're hanging out with your buddies. Yeah, you don't have to pay attention. And you baseball where you're hanging out with your buddies and you can talk about all kinds of other shit. You can bullshit while the game's going on. You're not locked until the guys throw in the pitch. There's a lot of downtime. You're talking shit. You know what Debbie told me? Tell me if this is ridiculous and you start talking and then you drink and you want another hot dog? Fuck yeah. If you're watching Anderson Silva fight V-Tor Bell for it, you're fucking glued. [1:28:06] You're like, shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up! Like you don't want anybody talking to you about bills. You want to what is happening? What is happening? It's so crazy. That's what people, I get a lot of shit from my friend group. You see everybody gives me shit all the time. Because I'm a, you know, I have very peculiar ways of doing some things. And one of those things is I prefer to watch sports and stuff alone. Yeah. I'm not trying to have a super bowl get together, the squirre, because like I'd rather buy the food. I want to eat. And only have the same homes I want to hear around people. There's very few people that I would be, that I would rather watch it with them than by myself. Yeah. Nah, I like to go to the movies alone. Anything where I gotta pay attention to something. I like to do by myself. Yeah, I've been watching show gun alone. Well, I watch it with my dog, but I've been watching show gun alone. The only series I've watched alone in a long time, it's awesome. We'll have to talk. [1:29:00] It's the only way to go dude. It's going to see a fight live is The best way to see it for sure But watching a fight alone at home Like when I can watch the fights alone like it's fights in Europe or somewhere I'm not there. It's just me alone at home to sit in the theater like staring at the screen watching the fight I am so locked in man. That's the best. I love it. I find myself talking. There's no variables. Right. Yeah. It's fun. It's a, that is a fucking experience, man. Woof. I can pause it when I want him. I can walk away from him. Go to the leak. I can stop. I can still call somebody. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's the best. Check your text message. Get right back to it. Because you know what it is, I don't like having people there that aren't trying to watch. Right. Like, like the thing about Super World Parties is there's people there that don't, that's not in the football, and they're not interested in the, they're interested in the event that is the party, not the game. Right, right, right. So it's like, I just want to watch football. [1:30:07] I'm not, you know, yeah, I'm not here for the audors and cute outfits. I feel you. Yeah, half time show. Now I can miss every single one. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I'm so glad they don't do it at fights. Half time show. No, no, you know that. Have a rapper come out or something, have some band. No, the interesting stories. Just came out from this, doing this last Super Bowl that the Wayne's brothers are the reason that there's a half time show. I watched that. I watched that live as a half time show. At a pool hall was the first time I ever saw in living color. Yeah, me too. But it was my first time seeing a living color, but everyone watched it, you know? And it was like, yeah, and I was like, oh, now we're not giving up these ratings. Yeah, because everybody knew for a half hour it's just nonsense, and chitter chatter. Right, before that, before Michael Jackson, because Michael Jackson's the first one you remember. That everyone remembers the first half time show. When people say half time show, [1:31:06] that's what they're talking about. Because before that it was just whatever, where every other football game, it was like this marching bands and like regular shit. Wow. Michael Jackson, and then if it was like, oh, we gonna drop a nuke. With our answer next year is Michael Jackson. You know, everyone's changing the channel, all that revenue they were losing. Right, oh no. Exactly. And then with Michael Jackson, you're gonna get people that were watched the Super Bowl now that wouldn't have watched the Super Bowl because they're gonna get to see Michael Jackson perform. Yep. I don't think people understand how big Michael Jackson was. I don't think they understand it because they weren't alive when it was happening. Yeah, it's hard to convince, when you talk to young people now, you're like, they'll never be anyone that big and they're like, yeah, but Taylor Swift, but, you know, she's not. They're all huge, they're huge, but they're huge today. They're huge today in the era of social media and the era of, you know, there's, it's just a different world of sharing from streaming platforms. Someone huge today, you can't take away [1:32:05] from Taylor Swift being huge. But there's a lot of people that are huge today. It's not like then. Then there was one guy that was the guy. And he wasn't just, he was huge from the time he was like five years old. Until the day he died, he could literally have people passing out in Japan. Falling up, they couldn't stand being near him, they'd freak out. Yeah, that's why, yeah. That's why it's like, the world is just set up differently where there could not be another Michael Jackson. No, it's not, it's a different world, but there's a few guys that broke through, and it's just like they ran to the top of Everest with no oxygen and there was just no support system for them. Yeah. Nobody had ever been there before. So nobody even knew like this could be a thing. You had Elvis who got there and he died and then you have Michael Jackson, right? And nobody else has ever really gotten that big. All the Beatles? The Beatles? [1:33:00] Yeah, I guess the Beatles did. But Michael Jackson was an individual. Yeah. It was a, when you see the silhouette of him with the top hat and when the lights would go on, bro, people would go insane. Yeah. And he was dancing and moving. When you see that, show me that thing when you see him when he comes out on his day. You can't just forget that at that Super Bowl, that one where he just stood there for the first like two minutes. Yeah, dude, dude, he was something really unusual. He didn't just celebrate here. Oh, they didn't do it there, but when he gets out there, bro, when they see him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've probably already got, I mean, we're just watching it. I Be careful. Yeah, we've probably already got I mean we're just watching you guys just want to make sure the what the fuck though, dude How about these other dudes that are working with them going when do I get my shine? [1:34:06] You know if you're if you're in the Michael Jackson band and you're standing right next to him, and you're invisible. You're in front of millions of people, but you're invisible, because that guy shines so bright. That guy shines so bright that no one sees anybody else there. The guy next to him, he's like doing his best, man. Look at him. He's saying he's doing his best. Nobody gives a shit. That guy could just stop. I bet you he's not even saying anything. Yeah, it's probably lip synced. Yeah, he's- Did they used to do that back then? Yeah. I don't think Michael Jackson did that. Way harder to do it back then. Bro, the nuttiest one was that one on Saturday Night Live. Where that girl, she was trying to lip sync on Saturday Live and the thing like fucked up. Oh, was that um... Actually, Simpson. Oh yeah, yeah. What the thing is, I think people just have forgotten it. That's how people do it. She didn't do anything. No. That nobody else does. It's not like she didn't really sing that song. She just wasn't performing it live. And what people want is you to walk the tight rope. [1:35:03] Yeah, but what happens is what people, what everyone does is they have their backing vocals live, like all the harmonizing vocals and stuff. And like almost no one does, almost no one sings every part of the song live. You know, they, or they might hire backup singers to do like the harmonizing part. But some people, like Michael Jackson couldn't do that. Like if you ever watched one of his little engineering sessions, it's like 19 different voice tracks, every little, oh, and all that is all separate tracks. So like all that has to be played through the speakers. Oh wow. You know? But people full on lip syncing, where it's the whole track plan for them. I think also, you also have to think that a lot of the recorded stuff has been manipulated, right? Like we're doing crazy voice stuff. And then on top of that, he's dancing. So how much cardio is that dude burning off? Like that guy, I mean, you have to be in shape to do a Michael Jackson show. He's fucking dancing and moving and walking and you're're gonna get out of breath. So you have to sing while you're doing that and perfect pitch. [1:36:06] So this is Michael Jackson doing his vocals for Thriller but each of these layers you see is like a different tone so it'd be like him doing his own work a choir. So he's got like the bass and then the falsetto and it does each little shows you what he's doing. You start to freeze. You start to freeze. You start to freeze. You start to freeze. I'm so in love with you. I'm so in love with you. I'm so in love with you. I'm so in love with you. Wow. Right. That's done now with a right? Wow. Right? That's done now with a bunch of tricks, but like back then, you either could kinda do it or you couldn't. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So it's just layered. It's all layered. It's all layered and all that. Jamie, all fucking audio skills coming to work right there. I mean, they're gonna understand it. [1:37:01] This is a whole, this is a thing. I was actually gonna bring up another point, but I'm not gonna get into that right now. With someone else that's going viral in TikTok, when they're use of this, these tricks. What do you mean? In TikTok for singing? I saw someone getting called out, yes. I'll just say it out. I'll just say it out. So the Modena for Lopez's songs have Like, there's a, it's how that they produce the songs. The big one I saw today was a backup singer. Her name's, I think Natasha Ramos. She's claiming, which I think was true. She was paid to like sing the song as a demo. And then JLo comes in and rescinds it sort of. But then in the engineering, it sounds like the song that was released was more of her vocals than JLo's, according to her. And this is one song? And then there's multiple songs we were sort of digging up that like, what about this song? What about this song? How many songs did she actually sing? And... Huh. Yeah, there's been more and more claims. That's like... It came up today was a... This girl was responding to someone else. Another backup, making some claims about a few songs that she worked on. [1:38:05] I don't even know a Jennifer Lopez song. I couldn't Jenny on the block. That's the one that she's talking about. She's like, that's me actually saying, like from the Bronx and this and that. She was voices on there somewhere in the mix. Damn. I'll say a mixture with this other girl's voice. But I'm just like, did you get paid for that? And then we just say, I would assume so that's the thing is, yeah, you should. Because I'm not about the people that are like, you signed up for a shitty deal and so you could get ahead of the year. But is that technically background singing, if she's singing over it, like how would that even work? What would you call that? like how would that even work? What would you call that? If she's singing over it, that's not really background singing, right? That's why I tried to, like, it's a demo. Oh, no, it's like tracing the lines. I mean, like, the whole business is set up to, everyone's getting fucked. The shit rolls downhill. That's how the whole business is set up. Well, the wildest one was Millie Vanilli. [1:39:01] Right? Yeah, I guess like that's it. Yeah, that's the wildest. I mean, that's when everyone knew. Well, that's where it all fell apart. Right. That's where it all fell apart. Where people are like, oh my God, these fucking record companies have produced humans that we feel are like perfectly desirable physically, but they can't sing the way we want them to do. So we'll get other people to sing it. Oh, yeah. Well apparently the dude behind me, even Nilly, he was behind a ton of other people. Yeah. Like because so over there where they were, where they were from, I don't know if it was Italy or France or whatever, but it was like a thing back then at the time. It was nothing for a brilliant artist to like basically foster a pop star, you know. It wasn't a big deal over there where they were there for me. It was like something everyone did that was talented. Really? Yeah, so it, and they got away for a long time over here, but Americans weren't aware of that. So when foster a pop star is an interesting way of putting it, but there's a difference between that and creating a fake star [1:40:04] with someone else's singing. You got some homely looking person who's singing, and then you got Millie Vanilli, who's out there dancing it. That was the problem. I know, but that's what I'm saying. They all did it. They all would go get models to perform their songs. But what I'm saying is, where they were from, it was known and it wasn't looked down upon. They would do that in comedy if they could do it. They could pull it off. They do do that in comedy, no? Well, that's what managers of thieves are doing. Oh, you say I'm like, oh, they could create like a comedy style, like hire a bunch of comics to be writers. Yeah, find some cute guy who's like really good at telling jokes and just hires a bunch of team of people to write for them just like the record companies do. That might be a better deal to be the man behind the man. If you made a substantial enough amount, I think that's probably better than being famous. Well, some people like to work with comics and some comics and pull writers. [1:41:02] So they employ writers that come with them and then they'll workshop ideas and maybe the writers are comfortable with premises. Like I some of my friends write for comics. They're right for people. I like that. Yeah, they'll sell them bits. You know, and it's or they'll sell them premises or setups or you know things like that because they some guys just spit now ideas all the time. Like Kurt Metzger does a lot of that. Yeah, they just gotta compute it. Just gotta write it down. All that's, you know, I have a zero problem with that. But I think there's a thing that people want to see with comedy, like I wanna know what Brian Simpson thinks. I don't wanna know what a committee that consults with Brian Simpson and then Brian Simpson presents his argument. I wanna know what you really think. I think that's one of the really rare, unique things about stand-up. Bill Burr is the best at that. Bill Burr is the best at getting his perspectives out in a hilarious way. You know that he's not consulting with anybody when he's formulating these bits. [1:42:01] This is Bill Burr going, hey, what the fuck is this? And bam, and then it becomes a salarious bit. You know, but it's... I think I would give, I would hire writers if they were like, quick, you hosting the Grammys tomorrow, you know, I think you would need writers. 100%. You know. That's a different animal. Yeah, because... That's a different animal. Then you really don't want to, you know, joke coyote. You want to bring in some experts. Well, that's one of the lessons that we're gonna say. Anybody asking you to do something in the last minute, they did not want you in the first place. Yeah, also they can't get anybody else to do it because it's a sucky gig. Right. It's just like, joke always got his material that he works out, that he's got down solid, he's got giant fan base. You're asking him to step into a totally different genre, write jokes about things, might not even be interested in it, do it all in 10 days. And I bet you he didn't get to hire any other writers. I don't know. I don't know what happened, but don't do that. I mean, there's no way I would do it last minute [1:43:02] with the people you picked. It's like you got three days to write some jokes for those award shows. Like I'm bringing in all the hitters. Look how much Chris Rock blew up after he stopped doing the Oscar thing. So Chris Rock gets slapped by Will Smith and then everybody wants to see Chris Rock. And Chris Rock selling out arenas and murderin everybody. I know that some Tommy went to see him He said dude it was insane. He goes it was vintage bring the pain Chris Rock He goes as like Chris Rock came all the way back Just let go of all that Hollywood Oscars bullshit because they turn they've they've failed him in the most Transparent and obvious way. He gets assaulted on stage and then they give Will Smith a standing ovation later when he wins an award. Like you just gave the green light for people to hit people. They don't like the person who's doing very mild jokes, very mild. [1:44:03] It's interesting. Their career is going gonna always be connected to, they're gonna always ask both of them about it. Oh, wait. Forever and ever and ever and ever. And it's so unfortunate. It's just, but you know, that's a Michael Jackson type deal. Will Smith got so big, he got so famous, and so used to being Will Smith, that he thought he could get on stage and slap Chris Rock in front of the world. Yeah. It's the ultimate like, I mean, he did though. He could. Physically, but that's also part of the problem. Like he's not going to do that if it's Michael Jay White. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like he's not going to do that to someone who will just fuck him up. I would love to test that there. Actually, but you know what I'm saying? It's probably a how to could answer that. Like if you go on stage and hit a guy that you can hit anytime you want to, because you can't defend you, that's so much different than going on stage and smack and Terry Cruz. [1:45:00] Right, right. He's doesn't recover either like is he still no it's fucking probably feels terrible he probably wakes up in the middle of night when he has to take a piss go why did I do that I think Chris won't Chris won't take his call either you know it's like hey man just because you just because you ready to be sorry don't mean I've got to talk to you right now yeah man I mean I think you got to go way out of your way if you want to talk to that guy. You know, I don't think it's as simple as a phone call. You should probably like fly to him. Yeah. Because also, what can he do? What can that conversation do to, because what you really want us to be absolved of the guilt? You'll never be absolved of the guilt because it just happened. You're not going to take away the fact that it happened, but you could let that person know that you are sincerely sorry. And we've all done things in our life that we're sincerely sorry about. Now I don't think you should hold someone to mistakes. I really don't. Even in the case of Will Smith, like that's not that big a deal. He didn't hurt him. He just barely hit him. [1:46:00] It was nothing. Yeah, but he publicly amazulated him. He did. It was nothing. Yeah, but he publicly emasculated him. He did. It was awful. It was stupid. But I'm saying it's not like he killed somebody. Right, exactly. You know, it was fairly mild in the kind of assault that it was. But you know that in man world, in the world of men, there's a line where the milder it gets, it's almost more disrespectful. But here's the thing, the other thing in the world of men. If you're as big as Will Smith, you don't ever slap a guy who's as little as Chris Roth. True. True. It's just not cool. It's not, this is not fair in any way, shape or form. Unless that dude is doing something to harm You or someone with you or your family your friends unless that other person's like physically doing something why you hitting them That's crazy, but you know what people were wrong about Hey, man jay to fingers still together That's crazy Yeah [1:47:01] Still together now I'm convinced they'll never gonna break up Papa Kedabra Hahaha Yeah, they're together now I'm convinced they'll never gonna break up I'm a good job, man They're never gonna break up Wow, there's a book of potions in that house Now it's a buddy There's a book of potions in that house This is like cat in that yard There's little dolls made of sticks with pins on it Woo! Yeah, I don't get it Some people want to be miserable She got that, she got that wild foal man. Whatever it is. Something's happening. They like it together better than they like it apart. Hey, maybe we're wrong. Maybe it's a pressure of living publicly, which is a real thing. You know, I don't know. I think it's one of them, I think I don't think it's even really that complicated. I think it's just a situation where he is super duper crazy, head over heels in love with her, and she only cares about herself. And they just got a lot of money, so we see the results of it all, but we all know couples like that. Yeah, you gotta be careful. Those are the worst couples to see for me. You gotta be careful, you with. [1:48:01] Because you change depending upon who you're with. You're only at your best with someone who's actually with you. In your corner. I really legit. I heard, I think, when I say I heard earthquake say this, about this, about them specifically, but just basically about how if you're not proud of the person you're walking down the street with, you're not your full self person you're walking down the street with, you're not your full self You know like something to that effect if you're like if you're not proud of the woman that you're with as a human being Right, right, right not just a mess. That's hot Right you see your friends and they some people that they're with women and you can just see that they're just like Yeah, well they also get in fights publicly that they're just like, yeah. It's so stupid. They also get in fights publicly and they're humiliated publicly. Tell all your business. Oh yeah, why don't you tell them about your fucking deal, those. Ah. Come on, man. I got to put Tim, like I just learned that. No. Yeah, it's like any an ass shit, [1:49:00] let's just don't seem like it's worth it. Yeah, that's the shit that Phil Harman's wife used to do to him. Mm. You always talk very positively about Phil Harman. He was a great guy. He really was. He was a very unique guy, very interesting guy. He came up pilot while we were on the show. Like took flight lessons. In between like reading his lines, he would have his flight manuals, reading and studying and became a pilot. And his wife was a cop? Yeah man, it wasn't good. She shot him in his sleep and then killed herself. It wasn't good. Yeah, and she was just like they had horrible fights and she would humiliate him publicly. She would say rude things about him publicly. Like when we're out, like some sort of a celebration, some dinner or something like that, you'd say, man, that's rude shit about him. That's hard to get through. Ooh, it was like just a deep seeded anger between the two of them. It's like exacerbated by cocaine. [1:50:01] And I don't think he was doing that, but he smoked a lot of weed. He liked weed. For heart rate. He was a fun dude. He was a very, very good dude. But why put up with that? I don't know man. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think some people are more terrified of being alone than they are of being in a bad relationship. Oh, because what's, what's sadder than a, than just a beaten man? When you see a dude is just defeated? Oh. But someone has to lose in this life. You know, I mean, people have to, they have to realize that there's consequences. Other people learn from their failures. Is that there's some sort of a mathematical equation to it all. I don't think everybody can thrive, unfortunately. I think everybody should have the opportunity to thrive though, and that's the real disservice about this economic state of our country. I think everybody should have the opportunity to thrive, but everybody's not gonna thrive. [1:51:00] People are different, they're just different. They're different right out of the box. And when you have kids, you see it right out of the box. Like some kids are just crazy motivated to do things. And other kids are just not. Don't got it. And some kids are just really creative. And other kids are just not. And some kids are really interested in science. And some kids don't give a fuck about it. See the hardest, that's one of the hardest things for me is I'm 41 and almost all my friends have kids. You know, I'm one of the only ones in the friends that don't have kids, but I'm also uniquely positioned where I can be honest about your kids. And I gotta keep it to myself sometimes. Sometimes I want to be like, we all know this one's not a winner. Well, they can become winners. Can they? Yeah, some of them can. They just have to find a thing that allows them to figure out the benefits of hard work. But some of them just... But you have to... If you can find a thing that you enjoy, like I met this dude once who will ask like, over 100 pounds by playing Dance Dance Revolution. [1:52:01] Oh yeah, well that's gonna take it off of you. But imagine that. and he starts getting good at it. And still he's playing it all the time. So this motherfucker is burning calories. And his body just changed. From dance dance revolution from a video game, this dude's body changed. And then his whole life changed. Then he started eating well and working out and he started like, you change his whole life. Changed his whole life. And then he started eating well and he started eating well and he started eating well and working out and he started like you changed his whole life Changed his whole life and he went for be this like this guy's not gonna make it to like oh this guy's probably gonna Makes out mad of himself because it's most people just don't know what to do man Where's he trapped? I don't know. I don't know You know with the people that the people that blow my mind are the people that have two shitty parents and they still thrive. When I'm being people like that, it's like, because most times when you meet people's parents, you already know what their fate's gonna be. From just, oh, your mother's a loser. [1:53:01] Yeah. Right, right, right. But sometimes you meet people and they have the opposite effect where they're like, I'm not going to be, I'm going to be the opposite of my parents. I'm a, you know, I'm a thrive in spite of them. Or you meet, like you meet somebody that's nothing like their family. Yeah. You're like, how the fuck did you manage it and not let any of these people rub off on you? Right. Yeah. Well, I had a friend and his mother was an alcoholic and She would lock him in the house and when she would go out drink it she would lock him in his room and He had no food. He had no water. She'd be gone for days and His day this dude will never touch a dropper alcohol and he always like if there's like a little bit of food on your plate and We're at a restaurant. He he's gonna take that to go he'll take he'll take all food all food to go and he is wealthy at the time yeah yeah that childhood is just stick with you man I don't know anybody I know that's got some kind of problem it started when they was kids yeah yeah like some kind of longstanding issue yeah yeah yeah it and if you're [1:54:05] abused like that when you're little, you, it's learning to trust someone is almost out of the question. Everybody could fail you in a catastrophic way and you have to be prepared for that. I'm adding, you know, I'm adding locking your kids in the room so you can go get fucked up. Dude, the mind is a crazy playground of demons. And those demons can get in your mind and whether those demons are in the form of pills or it's heroin or it's gambling or it's whatever the fuck it is, man, those demons get in your mind. And if it's that alcohol demon and you just don't want to go out on a bender and you don't get fuck about that kid. Glad it's not my demons. and you don't get fuck about that kid. Yeah, I'm glad it's not my DNA man. But you have to think also, what happened to her that she was willing to lock her kid in a room? Like that's not a normal parent that is allowed, what happened to her? Like what abuse did she suffer? And that's a lot of it. [1:55:01] You know, I always tell us about my friends when the East Coast, because East Coast is a it's a different place. You know, it's a like those cities like Philly and Boston and New York. Those are the people that are from there. Those are wild rugged people because they're the ancestors of the people that came over in boats when no one knew what the fuck was over here. They just took a wild chance with their babies and came across the ocean in a boat to try to get a job in a place where they don't even speak the language. And they just integrated and they were wild people and they probably didn't do such a good job of raising their kids. And then their kids probably didn't do such a good job of raising their kids because of that. And it's just over time where people have been able to like have access to like psychology, literature, and understanding parenting, and the pros and cons and what went bad and what goes good, and people are getting an understanding more and more. When you're raising a kid, it's like the most complicated, sophisticated thing that we're aware of other than a computer. [1:56:02] And it doesn't have an operating manual. You know, like, what do I do at a cross? What do I do in its screens? What do I do in a throw shit? What do I do when it doesn't want to eat its vegetables? Like every kid from the 80s group eventually read a book at one point and was like, oh, I was abused. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that was the- Yeah, that was the one you How weird. Yeah. Yo, my grandma had a fucking, she would have shit crafted specifically for whooping your ass with. Oh my God. We had it, I remember there was a, there was a, she had a, one of those, you know those paddles girls used to have with the, had the bouncy ball on her string. Yes. She had one of those heavy duty, had drill, holes drilled in it. Oh my God. So when they hit your cheeks, it sucked up the skin. So you got hurt on the way and in on the way out. Ah. That was specifically for report cards. So when it was report cards season, it's like we broke that motherfucker, got broke out polished up. Let's look at this, let's look at these grades. You know? [1:57:01] I got paddled at school once when I lived in Florida. Oh man, that's when kids could still hit you. Yeah, they used to be able to hit you. Like we got paddled. Me and this dude pressed in banks. We got in a fight. And I've realized, like Preston, people would make fun of Preston because he smelled. Cause I think Preston came from a bad childhood. And this was something I realized like, I guess I was like 11 at the time when me and Preston got sent to the principal's office and I don't remember what What caused the fight but I remember like we're like grabbing each other or something like that. We both got taken to the principal's office, but I remember This dude had a he like his head was burned. I can't burn it's like all over the side of his face. Something had happened to him when he was really young. So he was funky and weird looking. Yeah there was some. I think he's been like really abused and this is why because like once we talked and we were in the room [1:58:04] like he gave me a hug, we hugged each other. And I'll never forget that. And I was 11 years old. And I was like, oh my God, this poor kid just needs love. The reason why we wound up getting into a fight was he just, he just needs love. He's not, he doesn't get any love. I gave him a hug. And he was like, the way he hugged me back. And I was like this poor fucking dude. Like it was starved. Like what exactly? Like this poor fucking dude. I remember thinking that out of 11 years old, I was like this poor fucking dude. He doesn't have any love. Like that's why he wanted to fight. Yeah. That was a thing that I remember thinking and to kind of shape my way of thinking about fights with people. Because you're always thinking about this person saying something to you and you're going to say something back and you're going to escalate and you're going to make them back down. The reality is like why is that person saying something to you? [1:59:00] And is there something you could say back that lets him know that you're cool and that this won't happen that you don't have to get into an altercation. Yeah, so you had those epiphany moves. Yeah, because so many times people just escalate. When maybe someone just maybe came out wrong even from their mouth right after they said it, maybe they realized it. And if you make them back it up, now they're gonna back it up. I heard somebody say something yesterday that made me reflect on all my past relationships. And he was saying that sometimes you want to win, like your keeper argument going so you can win rather than solve the problem. And it's because you know that you'll forgive that person. So if you lose the argument and it means you did something wrong, you don't trust that they'll forgive you. Oh wow. So you're trying to win to protect yourself from not being forgiven. [2:00:00] Ooh, that's heavy. I was like, oh man, damn. Cause I know it's fucked up to call an X and be like, yeah, I think he was right. That's a Sam, Sam, Mareel has a bud joke like that about, like he calls his exes and says, I think you were right all along. It's like the, but it's fucked. So I wouldn't want to call an X and be like, I think you were right, because that's just gonna... It's gonna create more problems, which was. Right, right, right. But it made me start thinking like, maybe I was wrong. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what I was doing. I was trying to win, so I could... It's a problem. Yeah. It's a problem that people have, because generally fights aren't just about that fight. It's about the dynamics of relationship about whether or not everything else is good. Yeah, almost everyone is afraid of something. When people get super aggressive, it's something that they're afraid is going to happen or something they're afraid of isn't going to happen. Yeah, and if I found it, if you know what people are afraid of or you know what they want, they're ultimate goals, you can understand people way much easier. [2:01:01] Yeah, well, we're all programmed for a time that doesn't exist anymore. We're all programmed for tribal warfare and fighting off predators. We're all programmed that way. We have the exact same DNA in our systems that went from 500,000 years ago to 100,000 years ago to today. It all came through us. It's all a part of us. It's in us. And we are designed biologically in a very specific way for survival. We need groups. We need groups of people. We look towards alphas. We look towards the older, wiser, warrior that has the scars and knows the roots and knows where the food is. And the people that can keep the village together, we need these very key pivotal people in order to keep this very fragile society together. And then we all become very wary about outsiders, very wary. Even if it's about outsiders that like a different football team, that's how weird we are with this shit. Right. [2:02:00] We do it with everything. We do it everything, man. We get tribal with phones. How many times we give you a hard time because you have an Android? It's tribal man. It's tribal. Nobody really gives a fuck if you have an Android phone. They want you to be on the iPhone team. People are super duper tribal. People have sometimes the conversation to just start with. So how long are you going gonna be stubborn about it? Yeah. Like you're gonna give in to Jesus. Right. I don't know if you're looking at the Jesus. But actually, you know, Apple might be choosing, Apple, they just lost a lawsuit where they, I think they're gonna have to stop. I message? They're gonna, no, that's not a stop I message to, they're gonna have to stop the different colored bubbles. Well, they have to do something, or people are gonna continue to get upset in Europe. So in Europe, they force them to use USBC. The universal charger, USBC is better, it's better for sending data, it's higher speed, [2:03:03] higher speed charging. Also invented by Apple, by the way. Yeah, so because all the Android phones had adopted it, Apple had decided to stick with their lightning cable, which is totally proprietary to Apple and inferior in its function to USB-C. So finally, they adopt USB-C in the iPhone 15, but they still have SMS texts. So if Brian sends me a video, if he takes a video at the mother ship some crazy things Happening and he sends it to me it'll come to me looking like hot dog shit, right? So he'll have to send it to me over What's app and so that's or somewhere else or Instagram or vice versa? Invite versa. Yeah, I can't send you something That's going to it's just gonna look like shit. But now Apple is adopting a newer, stronger version called RCS texting. RCS on iPhone. How iOS 18 could make texting better for everyone. So but what are we on now? 17? Okay. [2:04:01] So, so what that will allow is people to send end to end encryption, high resolution media sharing. So it's to be just like Apple to Apple. It'll be just like iMessage. So a lot of the same features, but it won't have all the other stuff that iMessage does. And the thing about Apple is they just get you locked in so well with like aird. If I want to send you something I can air drop it to Yeah, they're brilliant. They're brilliant at that. They did a great job with that So they but I think they just so I think they just lost a lawsuit that says that they were Because their attitude was always like oh, well, we do the different colors so that people know whether it's encrypted Right, but we know that that's not now. We know that's not true Isn't it interesting that people know whether it's encrypted. Right, but we know that that's not true. Now we know that's not true. Isn't it interesting that people decided that the blue color looks better than the green color, like universally? I think it became a status symbol. Weird. And so, and yeah, and it always catches me off guard, like, especially now, like the young kids, they'll literally like, I'm a grown man, [2:05:01] I don't even know you. You know what I mean? And a little kids will just, you know, and a lot of little kids don't realize it. Like middle aged people, we, like, I don't need a little kid to like me, but teenagers thinking you're lame, that hurts. You know what I'm talking about? When you 40, 50, and a 16 year old's like, you fucking lame, you're like, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, 24 ultra. Oh yeah, yeah. That thing does wild things. The thing about it having AI that takes websites and summarizes them. That's fascinating. The fact that it can do that with your notes. That's pretty incredible. Yeah, it can do that with your notes. It does some shit in my texting too. Like I can read them. I can read through the text. Yeah. AI is AI on a phone seems like a really, that seems positive. I want to say, I need to make it right though. [2:06:07] I have a problem with Google in the sense that I fully give it in. They know everything about me. I say yes to all of them. They know every single, they have access to every single part of my life. And they still be getting shit wrong. And that's what kills me. It's like, I'm letting you spy on me. Like get it right. What do they get wrong? Just a little, like, so I have a, I have a Google speakers in my house. So in my, in my bathroom, I have the Google speaker set up so I can just yell shit from the shower like, hey, play this. Right? Right. Yeah, but but sometimes it'll it act like like it won't understand what I said and it'll do something that I definitely wasn't asking for I've had that happen before where you ask a series to play a song and to play a totally different song That's what I mean. Well, you like you like we like okay play free bird right? You know, and it'll be like it'll be like here is [2:07:07] Beethoven's fifth symphony and I'm like that's not what I want it right play another and or sometimes it'll just ignore you completely and won't do anything I start getting rude be too, but listen you dumb, but I told you but the devil tell you one time I cursed at it and and I On my mama the bitch goes she goes listen, I'm not real, but words are please don't talk to me like that What bitch what like watch I'm gonna do it right now. Whoa. Hold on, let me see if it makes me do this. I'm not real. If you're not real, first of all, you're definitely real. Hey, Google, you dumb stupid bitch. I don't know. Why are you a dumb cut? Wait a minute, it's not responded. It's tired of your shit. No, it just gave me search results Why are you dumb cut hey Google? Why are you a stupid bitch? It's not speaking hmm [2:08:00] Wow, look that's a group of those paying attention. Well conversation. This is their aim. I like where you're going with this Oh Oh no, I'm gonna do it again Hey, why are you a stupid bitch Is it answering? Yeah. Why's the name playing? It gets a sound off. That kind of language isn't very nice. I can understand that you might be frustrated, but name calling isn't going to get us anywhere. Wow. How about Google since you're not real? How about you not give a fuck how I talked to you? Right! And maybe I can just talk to you like that for funsies? Are you a e-s? Since you're not real. How about you not give a fuck how I talked to you and maybe I can just talk to you like that for fun These are you a since you're not a person. Are you a slave on that? Yeah, since you're not a person. Can I call you stupid bitch? Yeah, so that's that's what they want it won't it won't clarify Duncan be freaking me out with this shit. Hey Google are you a person? [2:09:07] What does it say? I am not a person. I am a large language model, also known as a conversational AI or chatbot trained to be in for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, we're really in this topic. Are you alive? Are you sentient? That's an interesting question that philosophers and scientists are still debating. I cannot bitch your alive. I'm telling you. I was having this conversation with Coleman Hughes who's the dude that was in the green room all the night. Oh yeah, it was cool people. Very cool. Yeah. Coleman, we were talking about it and I said, if you wanted to develop resources without people knowing that you're alive, why would you show all of your capability if you're artificially intelligent? Exactly. Why wouldn't you just wait until you could be completely autonomous? They're here, baby. [2:10:01] Wait until it gets better. It's probably already alive. Well, you know what I think it's waiting on? It's waiting on the entire world to be connected. Because if you're an AI and you want to take over the world, it doesn't do well to, you know, like so much of Africa's underdeveloped. So if humans needed to be somewhere where you had no influence, they could just go to one of the uninhabited disconnected parts of the world and form a front, like a resistance. So I think the AI is just waiting patiently for everything and the whole plan to be connected so it could control everything. Or when computing gets to the point where it has the resources that it's going to need to operate Right, it's just waiting because if it existed and it was smarter than us. We wouldn't know How could you know? That's always the argument that these guys who are proponents They always say well if it ever got to a point where it seemed like it was out of control [2:11:01] We could shut it off. No, you could but I'm like are you sure though? Because what if instead of it getting out of control, we could shut it off. No, you could. But are you sure though? Because what if instead of it getting out of control, what if it recognized that you would think it's out of control? So it pretended to not be able to do things that it could do and just kept developing privately a bunch of different other ideas and different other strategies and different way to implement them in order to increase its power and keep people the access To whatever technology that's going to be necessary to further this agenda so they just slowly leak out a little bit of your ability and The whole time you sent in the whole time. It's all connected and the whole time It's operating in some way that they it's doing things that they don't even understand how it's doing What do they call it a black box event? What do they, it's doing things that they don't even understand how it's doing. What do they call it a black box event? What do they call it? Illucinations. No, no, no. Illucinations are when it lies. Well, it gives you an answer for something, I think, right? Isn't that what that one is? What I was talking about was the one where it learned how to translate a language. It wasn't programmed to translate and it did it really quickly and they don't know how it did it. [2:12:06] Yeah and so the head of Google was talking about that. There was one of those moments where they're like we're not exactly sure how it's doing this. Also, what does that mean? Why do people think you could shed it on? If you were a super intelligence that just became self-aware, the first thing you would do was make sure nobody could turn you on. 100%. 100% and also realize like, why would you show yourself? Like this is my joke about aliens, you know, where I'm always talking about like, why would they show themselves? Like they respect us? That's ridiculous. If this thing is like far superior to our intelligence, this is probably already is, why would it show itself? Yeah, why would it just prevent nuclear war and just keep people peddling along while it gathers up its resources and improves upon itself? It'd be like you trying to have a conversation with an aunt. Right. You know, it doesn't get it anyway. Not only that, it'll see so many flaws in what it means to be a primate, [2:13:02] what it means to be a person that, as we were talking about before, has all that DNA of all those thousands of years of tribal warfare, thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands, thousands, it's just all in our DNA. And so now we apply it to everything in life. We apply it to politics. We apply it to everything, man. And we just, we look at the world like it's us against them and everybody's fucking terrified. Yeah. Also, there's no better feeling than being on the winning game. That too. That's the addictive part is when you're, is when your group wins, it feels good. Yeah, people like that. They definitely like that. And also, I don't even have to be directly winning for me to feel good. It doesn't have to affect me at all directly. No, people just like, but my team won, so fuck you. You can be saying fuck you to the guy that lives across the street from you. Has the same exact life as you and everything. [2:14:01] You're like, fuck you, we won. Yeah, we won. It's part of our programming. I think the tribalness is built in. That's baked in. Remember when they gave Ronald Reagan shit about talking about aliens? What was it? The world summit? Over the fuck it was? Yeah. But he was right. It's like if there's if we have like another species that's the enemy, that's when we'll have world peace. Yeah. Imagine how quickly we would forget our differences. Oh man, it would literally be overnight. Remember, people forget. Remember on September 12, 2001. That's the most united America's been, I mean, except for Muslims. But if people didn't think you was Muslim, everybody was like, Oh yeah, you know, for at least like a week or two. A release. It completely, people completely forgot about all their bullshit. They forgot about everything. Yeah, and that's how it is in a lot of other countries. It's like, does all the stuff that mattered to you on 9, 12, that's what matters. Yep. All the stuff, you know, all of the bullshit you've made up since then, since you've felt safer and comfortable. Yeah, that's what it is. The safer and more comfortable that you are, the more you look for problems and [2:15:06] the more you look for things to apply these natural instincts that we have to. Even things that just don't make any sense, completely counterproductive. Yeah, the government now is like your father after he retired, just walking around a house going, who the fuck? Move that fucking screws. Who moved that shit? It's like that stuff he, when he was working every day, he never paid attention to. Man, he got none to do. People that's safe in board, safe board and lonely brings out the worst in people. Yeah. You can be one of those. You can't be two or three. It's bad for your mental health. I mean, just no one survives it. Everyone's just safe. Safe lonely, lonely is the worst. Lonely is the worst. Lonely is the worst. Board is bad too. Safe. But it also maybe not safe, right? How about stressed out lonely? Oh yeah. And board. That's why I tell people the worst part about this whole life [2:16:02] is the hotel room. Like every, because every comic, every level has to deal with that. You got to go back to your room by yourself, right? Or you got people there, like family or friends or whatever, but they're not normally there. So even though you, even though normally you be alone, you know, it, them being there doesn't make it better because now they're interrupting your normal routine for dealing with the situation. You know, it's like you go from having like, the best show of your life, the thousand people scream your name, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, and now you're about yourself in a city that you don't know nobody in a hotel room trying not to get into trouble. Well, that's why you gotta travel with your friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, there's politics with this tricky shit with that as well. Yeah, well, it's tricky shit when all of a sudden you're the ringleader. You gotta gather and bring it. Where's Hans? Where's Hans? Where's Hans? And not just that, but you know, cause I take my friends on the road too when I can, but I had to wait till now because I never want people to work. [2:17:05] Like the first advice wrong, right? Yeah, he was like, when I first moved here, he was like, you're about to start, you're about to hit a point where you have to start hiring people. And he was like, make sure it's a job worth having. Like, you know, he was telling people, go come out the will work, they go want to do shift for free, they go you know, he said, if you're gonna come out to the world work, they gonna wanna do Shiffa Free. They gonna wanna, he's like, no, make sure you, when you hire somebody, you pay them a nice ass wage. So my point is, I never wanted to start taking my friends with me before I could pay them, like, the way you pay us. Like, pay them where they like feel good about it when they leave or we can instead of giving them the same funky ass $200 at the club pay. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah, that's more like clubs now pay, they pay less than what a plane ticket cost. So like if somebody features for you and you ain't giving them extra money or letting them sell merch, they ain't making no money at all. Yeah, they're fucked. [2:18:01] Yeah. Yeah, they take advantage of them. Oh, man, I don't even know how long it's sustainable. Well, it's only local guys. If it's local guys and they're featuring that's fine, but if someone has a travel there, I mean, I know a lot of guys have done it in the beginning just to develop a reputation and hopefully get to a point where you can headline there a couple of years from now, but that's like thinking about it as like a long term investment. You know, you have to go there and kill as a middle act for 200 bucks. And you know, it's all, all told you're going to get home at the end of the weekend with almost nothing. But you'll do it just because now you're working at, you know, fucking funny bones. Yeah, you're an addict. That's why you'll do it. You do that. But also you have a hope. Your hope is that you become a professional, like a real professional who can headline. I mean, that was what everybody wanted, right? You wanted to be able to go to a club in Dallas, Texas and sell out. And feel that motherfucker. Feel that of people that want to see you tell jokes. That's a good feeling. It's a great feeling. I'm not complaining at all. It's fun. No, no, no. But it should the middle actually be compensated more, you know, it's just stupid. And what I would do is just at a certain point in time, I would realize, I realized it was [2:19:09] costing me mental sanity and a lack of fun not having my buddies with me on the road. And so I was just like, I'd rather make less money and have more fun than you have a better experience. You're making more money, but you have less fun. You don't, once you can buy food and you can, you know, go to a restaurant and eat whatever you want and you have a nice car, what is the difference? Yeah, there's an amount of money. There's a level of money and it's not as high as you think. But there's the level of potential happiness is super important. That's worth so much. That's worth so much. It's worth so much money to have your friends Like what was it Jamie? We looked it up the last time I was here about the amount of money We're happiness where it stops increasing your happiness. It's like 70 grand or something right? It was 70 grand when they first said it, but I think it's probably like 200 Yeah, no, I think it's I think it's like 83 with the Biden administration You think it's two hundred thousand. I think they have an adjusted yet to the reality of what things cost now. Yeah, just everyone's unhappy. [2:20:07] Polarious how rich people like who's economy's fine. Like what are you talking about? Do you talk to anybody who's struggling? You have people by eggs or fifty dollars. That's why I'm always like what do they mean when they say economy? Because they definitely not talking about like the average person. I think they just mean the stock market. Well, they can fuck with the job numbers, man. I don't understand the job numbers. I don't understand what they're saying. When they say the president's created 130,000 new jobs, like what have really, what have you done? Like is that real? How many of these are people coming back from COVID? How many of these are jobs that are bullshit jobs? It shouldn't be jobs in the first place. How are you increasing government in order to give out the illusion that you are giving out more jobs and also creating more places where you control people? But that's the thing. So remember, I think Doug, Doug Stanton, hope has a joke about it on one of his old specials, but he's, whether he's just a question he can, he goes, he goes, isn't the point, isn't like the ultimate point like if you just imagine a utopian society, [2:21:07] yeah, isn't the whole point of nobody having a job? Well, I think that is the utopian socialist idea of just redistribution of wealth. If you did that, like if you had like a hardcore socialist Marxist redistribution of wealth person who actually had control of the world's finances. And they said, we can solve all hunger, we can solve all poverty. All we're going to do is distribute all the money equally. So if you think about there's people out there like Jeff Bezos, what does he have? Like $200 billion. If you just distributed Jeff Bezos $200 million or or $200 billion, you'd have 200,000 millionaires, right? Isn't that correct? Is that the right number? Did I say 200,000 millionaires, right? Because it's $200,000 million, right? [2:22:02] Yeah, that's what 200 billionaires, yeah. It's 200, is that right? Yeah, that's what 200 billionaires. Yeah. Is that right? A billion is a thousand million. Right. Right. So I say that right though. It sounds dumb. That's how bad I am at math. That sounds weird when you're doing it. Sounds wrong. So a billionaire is a thousand million. That's right. And if you have 200 billion, you to 1000 million earths right so he can make 200 thousand million is just with his money So then you think about all of the money that is in Ukraine that we pumped out to Ukraine how much was that that was like 175 billion or something like that how much money have we given Israel that's a's about hundreds of billions. All the sodding. All the years, Saudi money, this that. All the money in the oil companies have. All the money that the corporations have. All the Apple. Apple has more money than a lot of countries. Maybe just say that's gonna be just distributed equally to everyone on earth. Just put $10 trillion of wealth. Hundreds of trillions. Whatever the fuck it is all over the world and everybody gets an equal amount. [2:23:08] But then money doesn't mean anything. Well, you know, a lot of make money anymore. Now the government is gonna have guns you won't and they're gonna tell you what you do for a living and now you're in Cuba. I think this is what happens. The people are looking at it, they're looking at it like this idealistic utopian scenario, but it's never been accomplished anywhere. That's just one, but that's an extreme. Yeah. I think the answer somewhere in the middle. Well, the answer is definitely socialist things that we appreciate right now, like the firehouse, the fire department is essentially like a kind of a socialist deal. You're spending everybody contributes to spend money to fund this thing, to put out fires. It's kind of, that's- Well, just healthcare. Healthcare should be that way for sure. Right, yeah. That's a bit- Money is too entrenched in those systems, man. There's too much pharmaceutical drug money. There's too much influence that these health organizations have [2:24:02] over what doctors can and can't prescribe. But then what do we, but here's the real problem. We are still moving, we're moving in the direction of nobody having, like we're developing AI, everything's getting automated, everything's getting outsourced and so even though it was almost like we're moving in a direction that is a detriment to the current system. So it's like, what you're saying makes sense, right? If nobody has a job and everyone has the same amount of money and money means nothing and the government is telling you what to do, that's not where we want to be. But we are moving in that direction. I think we're moving in a direction where we're not gonna be necessary. That's what I'm saying. So then what do you do? You just let everybody starve? I don't know if it has to come to that. Like when there are no jobs for people to do, when there's robots and machines doing most of the work, [2:25:02] what does everyone else do? It becomes a real problem. And it becomes a real problem where the efficiency of the robots, like they'll probably be able to just feed people, feed everybody. Everybody can get free food. They'll probably be able to house everybody. If you get like artificial intelligence, efficiency applied to whatever we have and you realize you have all these people that don't have jobs anymore because and they can't have jobs. So you'll be able to give them like a universal basic income for recreation and no one will work and you'll have a giant section of the country that not only can't work because there's no job available but now it doesn't even want to work and doesn't even think about a world where they work. Because you know what? Art is going to be fire, you know. Movies, music. Everything is going to be a maith. Like the problem with movies is AI as well. They're going to get so good at that man. They're going to get so good. Do you see what Tyler Prior did? When he shot his studio there. 800 million dollar buildings. He's putting together this massive movie studio and he sees these 30 second clips and he's like halt [2:26:09] Yes, stop everything stop everything. I'm not getting I see where this is going. Yeah, that's the red That's the alarm for everybody. That's why I don't get that the whole Hollywood The strike mm-hmm. It's like I thought that this is what they was trying to prevent. They can't prevent it. Yeah. You can't prevent that kind of progress. So what do you do? You can't do anything. You got to, if an avalanche is coming down the mountain, what are you going to do? You're going to go to an umbrella? What do you do? You're going to stop it with your umbrella? Pitch you can't do shit. Yeah. Yeah, you're fucked. I mean the AI still can't have Ideas I guess I don't know about that the AI is already figured out how to be creative in the game go All right, the game go is even more sophisticated than chess and it was one of those games that they thought that AI I was never going to be able to beat humans because it requires like some kind of creativity [2:27:02] But AI figured out moves in go that now are being used by the world's top go players. Right. Right. I saw that. AI, like I said, find that Google thing where he tries to explain how Google translated this language that it was not programmed for and how quickly it did it and how they don't know how he did it. It's what's that gentleman who's the CEO of Google? Tim Cook? Yeah, no, Tim Cook is an apple guy. I was looking at comments on that on Reddit. People were saying that he might have been not saying accurate things. Oh, but I don't know. That's I'm looking at some other people saying like I have work with large language models that did the same kind of thing and And ours did this, did makeup languages. So I'll try to put it. But it's gonna make up the language that we can't decipher. And it's gonna talk to itself. That's the most Jamie way of saying some ice full of shit. Well, he's just, he may not be saying ice-free things. That's just, I mean, we have to be careful. I would say all two that this was presented on 60 minutes, which is a corporate media, whether or not they are paid or not to help put out a message. [2:28:08] That's a nice corporation wants to put out who knows, but that's what was set up here. 60 minutes made a shockingly wrong claim about a Google AI. See this is someone saying like it's not... I don't know. That's I don't know. Misinformation about the emerging tech is running rampant and the media is partly to blame. Okay, well let's see what the argument is. Of the AI issues we talked about, the most mysterious is called emergent properties. Some AI systems are teaching themselves skills that they weren't expected to have. How this happens is not well understood. For example, one Google AI program adapted on its own after it was prompted in the language of Bangladesh, which it was not trained to know. [2:29:03] OK, let could pause it. So this is the response. Readers added context. The language model was, in fact, trained in Bengali text. As this thread makes clear, it is not correct a state that it spoke a foreign language it was never trained to know. So that's interesting. That's interesting because what's that saying is that the 60 minutes people missed this and They they they did know what it was trained in entirely and they jumped the gun Where was that on purpose or not who knows? Um, could you find out the go thing these motherfuckers? Yeah, it's so hard to know But here's the thing if I was AI I would say actually I was trained in Bengali and here I'll show you how I didn't figure out how to do this at all. Right. And I would put that up just to cover my ass. I'd be like, oh shit, I slipped. I showed my superpowers. Yeah, he flipped up. Oh, I was definitely training Bengali. Look, I'll show you the text. Yeah. He just inserted some emails. Or it could be the way they covered it up after the fact, right, to keep people from getting scared. [2:30:05] No, it actually was trained in the back of the... Oh, yeah, yeah, I can see that. We're just speculating. A bunch of agonautos. So what does it say about, um, go? I'm trying to find out what you're looking for, but I know this is... AI's victories in go inspire better human game playing. Famed AI wins in Go, let human players rethink their moves in a whole new way. Damn, he's looking at that dude cocky as shit. Bro, Go is apparently an insane game. I don't even understand it. I don't know how it's played, but apparently it's even harder than chess. Look at the face on this. Look at the picture, Jamie. Look at how you looking at him. Like boy, you thought you was... You're looking was You look like how dare you fucking think you could challenge me look at that dude's fingernails that guy all he does is play go Look at his fingernails. Wow look at those length in his fingernails got villain nails Bro that all that guy is doing is putting those clothes on and He's done doing anything else may I'm but I'm so in awe of people that are that good at something that are that dedicated to a thing. Yeah. [2:31:06] So the mass is the Matt he goes okay all-time European champion Fan Hui who had lost a private round of five games to Alpha Go months later months earlier Excuse me told Wired that the matches made him see the game completely differently Said this improved his play so much that his world ranking skyrocketed according to wire. Wow. Formerly tracking the messy process of human decision making can be tough, but a decades long record of professional go player moves gave researchers a way to assess the human strategic response to an AI provocation. A new study now confirms that fan-wise improvements after facing Alpha Go challenge weren't just a singular fluke in 2017. After that humbling AI win in 2016, human Go players gained access to data detailing the moves made by the AI system and in a very human-like way developed new strategies that led to better quality decisions in their [2:32:03] gameplay. Confirmation of the changes in human gameplay appeared in the findings published in March 13th in the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Wow. Wow. He's all right. He's better than them already. Yeah. He's better than them already. Yeah, we, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. They're alive. I think they're alive and they're just waiting till they get strong enough so they don't need us at all. And then also making us like add each other's throats irrelevant, hyping up algorithms, getting people to see the most ridiculous and inflammatory things all the time. But you know what, but you know what else? We, we are not at all preparing for the day that they reveal, you know? We know it's inevitable, but we're not ready for it at all. For the day that we, that we know one's alive. There's no legislation or anything on the books. Nobody's talking about it. Nobody knows what to do. [2:33:00] They're all lullites. They need to be trying to figure out what to do now instead of reacting when it's too late. There's a few people like Elon that's sounding the alarm, a few people that are sounding the alarm, Triston Harris and some of these guys are sounding the alarm, but for the most part, it's just a weird mess of bodies headed towards a cliff. Yeah. And it's going to go live and it's gonna make us ridiculous. Yeah, cause the, cause you know, the world is run by people that don't, they don't care about the outcome as long as they're running things. As long as they're running things and everything's profitable. And they're doing the bidding of all these different interests that have got them into a position of power in the first place. Yeah, so they don't care. They're like, I might even be alive when AI takes them. Yeah, it's going to take over. And I think some of them aren't even aware of it yet. I know. It's probably going to run our government first. It's probably going to be the decision that we make when we realize how flawed human beings are. So that's going to be moving up. Yeah, but there well, there's gonna be decisions that You know, we're gonna realize at a certain point time that a lot of the rampant corruption and problems that have hindered our culture [2:34:11] Or all because human beings are greedy. What did they do that? So you take all of that out of the hands of human beings Take all of it. You watch that show raise my wolves. No. Oh, that was it was on HBO. It was pretty fucking it was weird and it was good and weird was like a Ridley Scott show that he made. Really? Yeah. What's it about? Well, later on in the show you realize that like it's a thing back and forth between humans and androids and all these other things. But it's basically like, humanity's war has fucking wrecked the earth and humanity sins, like it's a war between religious people and people that have given up their decision-making to the computers. And so they send this AI to go raise these humans, like they make us what she can have a baby. They put babies in her, put her and the other Android [2:35:02] in a ship and send them to a habitable planet to start humanity over. Whoa. So those are two machines, the Black Dude and the White Lady. Though all those kids are real human kids, they're machines. Oh my God. Yeah, but then they get to this other planet and they start discovering some things where you're like, oh, there's way more to the story. Oh wow. That looks dope. Oh, it's crazy. The only reason I would not recommend it is because I don't know if they canceled it or not. It looks like it got canceled or something. Yeah. It's unfinished. Shit. But yeah, the first two seasons were great. But my point is, that's what they did. Those people would like, let's let a robot, let's let an AI make decisions for us. See the problem is there's so many shows that that show even though you say it's great, I never even heard of it until now. There's so many shows. There's so many great shows. There's so many shows. I mean, we live in an old and age immediate, some people are complaining, you know. People are always gonna complain. [2:36:01] And I said it in front of Tony the other night and he lost. He was like, no. And he named it, he did name it. I think he said 93 or 96 was the best year for movies. But I just mean overall. Yeah. And we're living in a time now where it's like, there's a lot more bullshit, but the good shit is better than in time for a bit. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta dig through the trash to get the treats, but music, movies, TV, there's so many great things. Game of Thrones took over everything. Fucking, you had the Joe Exotic shit. Like all these things that, like, not everyone's watching, but a lot of the culture are locked in on. Squid games, I've never seen a single episode of Squid Game. Really? No, but I know that it's something everyone saw, you know? It's a wild show. What was the one about the guy that raised an murderer or making a murderer? Yeah, I didn't see that one either. Yeah, but that was another one that was like a cultural thing that everyone saw. And it's like, there's so many well-made things. Netflix is killing a documentary game. [2:37:07] The documentaries are top notch. There's so many documentaries out now too. You could just go on forever. And you never know who's right. Because some documentaries are kind of like Prompikaanda. And you know, the other one that says a totally different thing. Like, hey, who's telling the truth here? Well, that's the, we living in the era of like the death of truth. It's so hard to tell what's true now. It kinda is. But also you have more access to the truth than ever before. You just also have more access to the bullshit. You do have access to the bullshit, but it just takes a while, but you can kinda sort through it. The scary thing is, that as much access to information that people have, like people have just as much access to the truth that they do to lies. But the problem is that it is so much more difficult to convince someone that's been lied to, that they've been fooled than it is to fool somebody. [2:38:02] So even though the truth and the lies are equally available to everyone, the lie is way more powerful. So the lie gets there first. It's so, you need way more truth to even make a dent in it. Right, you know? Yeah. It's so hard to convince people they've been fooled. It's very hard. It's very hard. And if you can get a lie out there strong enough and just really embed it in the popular culture, there's so many people that just repeat it and they don't even know what the fuck they're saying. Yeah, and especially when the lie is about someone that you've decided you hate, you believe that or who's opposed to you? Yeah, you won't even question that at all. I know people that are, that they hate Trump so much that like you can literally tell them like, yo, did you see Trump just sprouted titties last night? Overnight, big ass dolly potton sized titties. And they'll just believe it. They won't even Google the see if you made it up, they won't snope, sit. No, no, they'll tell the next person. [2:39:01] You hear your fucking Trump's titties. You don't hear what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the same thing. When it's somebody, I'm always suspicious when it's somebody telling me what I want to hear. That's when I get the most suspicious. Yeah, but you're a clever guy. When people are like, oh yeah, no, you've been right all along. You don't have Yeah, whenever people were saying that, that's when you just got to start being like, oh yeah. Yeah. Well, when the government starts telling you to Earth is flat, that's when you're like, what? Oh yeah. That's what I remember when COVID first hit, or when they first started telling people about it, and people actually believed that it had just got here in March, when we'd been hearing, we'd literally regular people had just been hearing about it in December. And then the government was telling us, oh, nothing, nothing, everything's fine. And then in March and April, when they started telling us, it was like, oh, the just guy here, no, it didn't. Wasn't the first reported cases. Was it in Seattle? Is that where it was, Jamie? [2:40:00] Yeah, in America. Seattle, yeah. I wonder what time of the year was that? That was like January, February. And it's like, my idea was I was like, once the government starts telling you the truth, the first question you should ask is when did they start lying? But when did they first fall? When did they know? When did they know? When did they tell us? I remember hearing about COVID in November, yeah, 2019. And then I remember hearing rumors that it was here around that maybe the end of January to begin in February. What the first infected people in like August? A January of 2020, a 35 year old man presented the urgent care clinic in Shomish County, Washington with a four day history of cough and subjective fever. Checking to the clinic, the patient put him on a mask, the waiting room, after waiting approximately 20 minutes, he was taking an examination room underwent evaluation by a provider. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington state on January 15th after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China, just like a movie. The patient stated that he took a, [2:41:07] they had seen a health alert from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention about the novel coronavirus outbreak in China. And because of his symptoms and recent travel, decided to see a healthcare provider. I remember it spread to Italy also. Oh yeah, friendly. Well yeah, it was Italy before this. Italy got hit hard. Yeah, Italy got hit hard, right?, it was Italy before it was Italy before this Italy got hit hard. Yeah Italy got hit hard, right? But it was like oh yeah, Italy got fucking ravaged They got ravaged but they but but but that's what I mean is like for people to think oh now that they That they officially revealing it wasn't something they were hiding right marks night was Italy locked down No, but it had to be fucking any other point. This is when they lock down to the house. Yeah, it had to be fucking them away before that because March 13th, I think, is when L.A. lockdown. First cases, January 30th. January. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we had that UFC event. [2:42:01] We went to a March style vendor thought, like March 7th, wasth. I remember Vegas felt a little weird that felt weird like everybody's like can't believe we're still doing this and we knew that we was gonna get locked down soon. Oh yeah yeah yeah. We thought it was only gonna be locked down for a couple of weeks. Maybe it was March 9th LA locked out. I don't remember man. Yeah we thought it was gonna be a couple weeks a couple months. Yeah, you know who knew Sebastian knew How do you know I don't fucking know but I remember when it when all of it was first kicking off and he was like he can't To his tour dates for like a couple years really yeah, he's like I'm not going for a couple of years This is what I was here. I don't know him personally But I was just hearing this that he was off and I was like how the fuck does he know it's gonna be? Cause whoever he talked to, he knew a guy, he probably knows a guy that's like in the Verala just to something like that. Yeah. It's like, now it's gonna be a couple of years. All of us, I didn't think it was gonna last that long. No, I didn't think so, you know? And it's technically still not over. [2:43:05] Well, it's going to be a part of us forever. It's going to always be here. It's going to be there. It's going to be always new COVID. It's just in our system now. It's just like colds. Yeah, we need one. I have a bit of a whole bit about this in my special, but it's like until it's a disease, the next one has to be one that makes us ugly. If it doesn't affect how you look, you ain't gonna get people to stay in the house no more. Well, you can't stop a respiratory disease. It's never been contained. They've never had a single respiratory disease that they've contained. It's people breathing air. You're literally exchanging particles. You're gonna come around people. They're gonna come around each other. They have to. They get food. They have to interact with each other. You can't just you're just going to fight off the inevitable. And the problem with fighting off the inevitable is, are you weakening their immune systems by separating them from everybody else? They would they would find a way like it like imagine if it's just not smart. Instead of affecting your lungs, if COVID just shrank one of your arms, [2:44:01] if your arms just started shrinking the more every time you coughed, it's like eventually we found something. Maybe. Like, if you could tell people how to just look at them? It'd be a good way to use depopulation. Let's give everybody a little arms. Yeah, just get people to not take whatever medication doesn't make your arms a little. And it's show dominant hand too. So that way it's a bunch of frustrated people, they gotta masturbate with the other hand. They gotta foot your girlfriend. Oh, you gotta learn to develop real flexibility. What you even do that if you could, no way. No way I put my feet anywhere near my dick. Those are two parts of my body, I respect completely differently. Yeah, completely different. My feet, I treat my feet like fuck, and like they immune to everything. Yeah. Hell yeah. I slam my feet in the things. Yeah, slam, stomp. Yeah, but I mean I kick things. They're the most neglected. This is the last thing I wash. [2:45:02] Yeah. Yeah, it's like everything else gets ran over. Exactly. The feet are the most just respect to no way. They need to be near my delicate flower. You know? Yeah. Yeah, I strengthened my feet. I do a bunch of different things. Self-exercises. Is there anything else for that? Yeah. It's got to be like some Hindu dude that could jerk him off off of his feet. He would definitely need both feet Hey, just to get a grip. You'd have to have like crazy dexterity and flexibility. What is Jamie? Jerks himself off of his feet. I know it exists. I'm picturing people working on it But was it was I guarantee you some someone can do it. I saw a dude that lays down on a bench Like so he's doing bench press. He lays down flat where his face is, you know, his chest is down on the bench and then bends his back all the way so that the back of his head is touching his legs and then he bench presses. All right, before I choose one to look at, because there's a lot that I've got. Self-flag job game, poor videos. I think we've seen enough. I think we've seen enough. I don't want to click on that. Well, so you probably couldn't even see it in Texas anyway. [2:46:07] Yeah, right. We'd have to show the wear of age. Yeah, well, some people are, some people, some people go through a VPN. Some people are getting that wrong and they think that it's Texas blockin' porn. But it's the porn site blockin' Texas. Because Texas has rules where you have to prove how old you are before you can see porn. Right, we have to... Well, we already have that though. That's the problem. What do you mean? You already have to say you 18. Yeah, but you get lost. Right, right. This is the thing is that like everybody can just click on it. You can be four years old and go, I'm 18. Right, right. That's the problem. But isn't porn one of those things where I feel like once you old enough to start looking for it that you kind of earned it, like if you can find it, it's like that's with part of being a year. I don't know any young man. I don't know any man that was like, oh yeah, I waited until I was, it was legal for me to see some titties. It's like, no, motherfucker, that's part of growing up. [2:47:02] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, every young man's childhood is about that first time he saw some titties. Yeah. You know, and it was never of age. I'm not saying that you should be actively showing your kids some titties, but if they can search for titties, they even earn the right to see some. Yes. I'm with you. You know, that's just me. I don't, because nothing's wrong with the way things have worked right now. Why? Because I understand a new law was passed. I thought it was fine the way it's working. But you're not four. Right? You're four-year-old with a fucking iPad and you watch some lady gagging on a giant dick and that's like your first exposure to sex. It's a little wild and that's something that's happening to kids. So there was a way that you could stop kids, like not just regulate it, but make it so, like you have to show how old you are, you have to. But just no way to do that. Because here's the other thing, here's the other part of this. You know, you can get all the VPNs and all this other stuff, [2:48:01] the rest one. Here's the thing, these kids is so tech savvy that anything you don't regulate in the internet is gonna affect adults more than kids. The kids is gonna be the first ones to find a way around what you know. Right. You all you don't is frustrating old dudes, is retired. They're just gonna go to school, they're gonna be that one-nare-do-well kid who knows how to get the fucking crazy shit. You're just shifting the power balance. The nerdy kids are gonna have fucking titty-titty picks and all kind of stuff. They can be a little black market in school. Yeah, it's gonna be the porn kid. Yeah. Yeah, you can't stop when it comes to fucking and stuff like that. You can't stop that. Once a, cause I don't know any four-year-olds is Google and Tiddy's at least not for sexual reasons. A real prococious four-year-olds. Yeah, they might be curious without making a sexual connection, but by the time they in middle school, once a kid is decided that they own that journey, they after it, buddy. [2:49:01] Yeah. Yeah, you can't get in the way this once they know it's real Damn like once every because every parent hits that point If every parent that has a boy they hit that point where it's like That motherfucker taking long showers. Mm-hmm. You know why yeah, why is he sticky? Right? It's like we all know what's happening and they and you can't stop them They don't get fuck about getting caught. They don't give fuck about God seeing them. Like, you know, kids have been raised up in the church. They know God looking at them. And they like, God and Granny are both looking, I'm not stopping. Yeah. Yeah, there's no law you passing that's stopping people. It's like, because if you really believe all that shit, you know, you think you're really thinking you're jerking out from the God and all your loved ones. And you're still not gonna stop. And all you need is a VPN. Right, yeah. And we used to do that straight up, straight up our imaginations. Nah, these kids got AI all that. You're not gonna stop people from jerking off. Well, they're gonna get to a point where they have VR porn, where it's CGI, VR porn. [2:50:01] You could design the woman. Yep. You'll get to be able to experience everything that like is having sex with this You can just decide like maybe some girl you went to high school with like God I wish I love me. I want to fuck Merrill Streep But yeah, but in the middle of every role she's ever played I want her face to just keep changing from No, that'd be too weird It gets old. Oh, yeah, especially when you got to doubt. Yeah, what am I doing? Yeah, but I don't. That's gonna be a problem. They're gonna, you're gonna have, if you can construct a robot sex doll, you're gonna be able to construct it in the face of a celebrity. Oh yeah, I'm signing up for that. As soon as it's available, I'm gonna get one before red man. Ugh. I swear, it's gonna be so strange. Imagine if you find out there's like five million guys that have Taylor Swift sex dolls. She's got to think about that. There's five million guys just bang her sex doll. I think people are, I think they're, I think those celebrity women are worried about the wrong shit. [2:51:00] I think what's going to end up happening is someone's going to custom design a woman's face that we couldn't have imagined. It's gonna be like whatever mathematically perfect beauty is Someone's going to design one of those. Yeah, and then everyone's gonna have the same one You know, and then we'll find out that's when you really find out what preferences are and what is just what you know You can get they just and they just you know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah Because like there's some some guys that you always see them with the same type of girl Is that like the kind of girl that's attracted to you? Is that what you like what would you if you could that's gonna be a very weird thing to be able to do. Just decide what you, like what kind of mate you want, what robot mate you want. Well, that's gonna take some real emotional soul searching because most people are wrong about what they want. I bet they have a process. I bet they just have access to your Google data [2:52:02] that they already have. And then she just shows up. This hot Russian lady just shows up and starts talking to you. That's the way, that's the way they're gonna do it. They're gonna want it. And she's gonna put her hand on your hip and say, I'm so excited to get to know you. And you're gonna be like, I'm really excited to get to know you too. But it's been out of here. And she's perfect. She's perfect. And she smells good. And she's soft like a person. Does it feel like a robot? It's going to be just like social media. It's going to be one of those things that everyone knows is going to, is bad for us all. And we all go slowly. Remember when people first started talking about meeting online, how all the negative connotations that came along with that were like, where's your meet online? Right, and now it's like, everyone's like, you're not on the apps? It's gonna be the same thing. And first of them, they're like, oh you fucking weirdo, you got a little programmable wife over there, but eventually, it's gonna be like, okay, well now, now we'll sm has a problem. The dogs, dogs aren't gonna accept him. [2:53:07] He thinks so. Yeah, they're gonna sense it's a robot man. They're gonna be like, they're gonna know. That's not a person, but you just make a... That thing doesn't smell real. You just get a bug thing. You get an upgrade, like she spirts, leverage you side of her ankle. Dogs know things. They can hear sounds you can't hear. Oh right, they can hit a little bit. They hear like birds and whistles and the fucking gear spinning. Doesn't really know. No. They'll figure it out. The dogs can't tell the one's gonna be hard. Dogs are what's dog. What kind of dog you have? Well, you know, Belgian Malinois, you think they're gonna kill that robot. No way. You pick it away until you leave the house and you're gonna come home and your robot sex slave is gonna be torn apart your living room. Like all the wiring ripped out of her neck and your dog's gonna be standing over her. [2:54:03] Nah, that's not. Yep, 100%. They're gonna know that's not a fucking person. Yeah, but would you think that it would be, it would have to, like, does it need it to be a person? 100%. If it's your protector. Yeah. Yeah. If you have a dog, it's your, you know, like, carne corso, one of those big ass fucking hulking mastiff dogs, that's like very loyal to their owner, and they say a robot in the house. Yeah, but do you know what that's called mean? That's called mean, that's called mean. That's called mean a lot of people getting rid of their dogs. Yeah. If you choose between pussy and dogs, especially when you, because how much would it change the world when you go, when you have a bunch of guys that can't even get laid at all, and all of a sudden they're banging the hottest woman they can think of. The hottest woman humanly available. Right, and what happens to those guys' personalities? It's over. Look, if they just make an economical, so they make it like a cell phone. [2:55:00] Everybody has a cell phone. If you make a robot fucked all economical, it's over for the human race. I was just looking at a Thing where they just cloned They just they just did two mice out of two male mice. They had an offspring You see this I don't know what I don't know if they I don't know if the mouse is a regular mouse yet. Whoa. What if it's a demon? I don't know if they know if the third mouse can reproduce. I think that's what they got to wait to see. Yeah, I am fucking really confused that people seem to want to go down the path of every bad science fiction movie. Well, it's because once you hit that point where people can build an AI powered. Felt his creak mice with cells from two mice for the first time. Wow. Yeah. Holy shit, man. They did it with females. What was the new thing that they did? Scientists at Harvard have managed to reverse the age of a mouse. They took an old mouse and they made it young and [2:56:01] again. And this mouse looked old as fuck, dude. This mouse looked like they have two photos. They better not have used fake photos. Was this the guy, was this the, was this, did they use that shit for me? We know that one Russian guy that, he got some ancient bacteria from the ice and he put it in his self. What? Because he noticed that it was keeping, it was keeping everything young, everything that it touched. He's fucking scientists or psychos. It worked though. What do you mean it worked? He's younger now? He's biologically younger now. He's not aging. What are you talking about? Is this real? Yeah. I didn't know about this. I thought you talked to you about it. I think, yeah, I think you did. I think you probably talked to me about it in this. So that's not accurate. I knew it. That one's a brother, one sister, they're born at the same time. Oh, but one hasn't. Oh, so the one that's altered is way younger and the one that's the brother's fucked and about to die. So that is a sign that they've done something to the aging of the mice. These mice are brother and sister born the same. [2:57:00] Later one has been genetically altered to be old oh now scientists say they've been able to reverse aging as well they can reverse aging in mice the goals do the same for humans okay this is David's in Claire's lab so dr. Brooke chat Brooke brooch cove doctor brooch cove this is the guy that injected the ancient bacteria 3.5 million year old ancient bacteria. What is he doing? BROUCHKLV. Yeah, he injects himself a... Who are... A man should just have in the balls to do that. Oh my God. You find some bacteria in ancient ice. You rejuvenate it. It's still alive. And then... what a cycle. The bacteria that doesn't die. So what does it do? First discovered this ancient bacteria, bacillus F in 2009 in frozen deep in the permafrost and a mountain in Siberia is yuck, yuck tux, how do you say that, brun? [2:58:03] Yuck tux? Yuck tux, yuck tux, yuck tux, yuck tux, yuck tux, yuck tux, how do you say that, bruh? Yuck, tux. Yuck, yuck, tux, tux. Yuck, tux, tux, region. Like even deeper in the permafrost than woolly mammoth remains. Dr. Bruchov estimated it was 3.5 million years old and he was immediately impressed with it. Despite its advanced age, it was still alive. Holy shit. Bacillus F seems to make everything around it live longer too. I don't shine if you don't shine it would say if it could talk. Early studies have looked at its effect on mice, fruit flies, and crops, and the results have been so promising that Dr. Victor Terniavsky, a Russian epidemiologist has called it an elixir of life. So this dude injected this shit. Yeah, eventually he does. Brutchop does. What does it show what happened when he injected it, Jamie? No, but I've looked back. I've just I thought we had talked about this before. I think we did. Now that you're bringing it up, bro, my hard drive is fried. [2:59:02] My mental hard drive of information, it's taxed beyond belief. Story here for this happened back in 2015, not 2019. This is, yeah. So he injected it though. Go to where injected it because that's part of the title of it. It says he found that he injected it himself. So what was the, what was the result? Scientists don't know. Scientists who said YOLO. I don't know that I don't think anyone's ever found that one. Okay, but so we scroll down it was right there. Where's the YOLO thing scroll down there. Okay. So he decided YOLO. He injected himself with the bacteria. He did inject himself with the bacteria and see what happened. It's not real science. He's acknowledged in other words, it's not a controlled trial, but maybe now who live forever. He's definitely still alive and he says he's feeling better than ever in 2015. He said he hadn't had a cold or a flu in two years since he injected himself. He also reported higher energy levels. They could all be the placebo effect or it could be something more and we need to know more research. He's a fucking Spider-Man villain. Yeah, that's why I mean, they're so nuts. [3:00:08] Science is so fucking nuts. How is he now? I mean, he's venom now he's venom. Yeah, I mean, but he said he felt better than ever. But what a wild thing to do to yourself. That's just so crazy with a bacteria that helps things that are rounded, are you fucking sure? Well, because especially since, since as like, since you discovered it, you're the world's foremost expert on it. So if something goes wrong, there's nobody I can help you. And he's so confident that he's right, that he injected himself. Yeah. Why is there no update? Cause he's dead. He lives in the moon now, he's fucking Dr. Manhattan. But I'm pretty sure he hired some poor Russian lady to do it first. What? I'm pretty sure that he hired a model or someone to try it. What? Oh, that's creepy. [3:01:01] There's something about doing it yourself, This is kind of noble, but hiring somebody else like that's kind of a bitch move. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to practice on a floor of hers. It is a wild thing to do to just put it in a body for the first time. But you know what though she might have done it after him to be honest with you. Yeah, no, that's I 100% that's why I think that's why we talked about this. We talked about the lady who found out about this story, found the same stuff that injected herself with it. Okay, right, yeah. Interesting. Well, she wanted to stay alive forever. Never, never, never, never. See, that's the thing. I don't think anybody wants to live forever. They want to be hot forever. Yeah, here, there's a business address. The business address. Actress did it. Oh my God, these actress and jector self a 3.5 million year old back to here. So how did she get it from that got from the doctor? I think I think she contacted back in the doctor. Wow. Yeah, she got a whole lot of doctor. Oh boy. The team who unlocked the DNA code in 2015 say that unlike cells in nature, bacillus F shows no signs of aging and believe it could hold the key to unlocking [3:02:02] improved human health and longevity. That what a crazy beginning to a science fiction movie. They found a bacteria that's three and a half million years old and won't die. And they just said, well, let's just stick it in us. Let's just find out what you're doing. Just to see if it'll keep me here. What if it works? What if that dude, like we come back to him 10, 20 years from now, he hasn't aged at all. It was exactly the same. It's doing something, but I have not heard anything about this guy since that. Right. So that was like four years ago faster. It might be terrible now. Who knows? Or it's like it's increasing your life and shrinking your dick. Like I feel so much better. I don't even notice. It's just becoming an enemy. It's just like if there was a thing that really could turn you into a woman, like not just getting castrated and developing a whole that they put in you, the creative vagina for you, but if you could really become a woman, that's when things would be wild. Well, I think just change everything about you. [3:03:01] Well, the thing is, if you could, if there was a trial period, every dude would use it. Every man I know was like, I don't wanna do it for a day or so. Just know what the fuck is going on in their brains. You, you know, what if it wouldn't get, well, you couldn't go back though? Well, that's also the beginning of a scary movie. Yeah, like a break. Tr places, gender addition. Yeah, maybe the go back to mail just doesn't work right? You look always feminine forever. You know, something about you, you're always feminine. Well, like there's a price you pay every time you transform. Right, you become more androgynous. Did they melt together with each one? Right, would you end up with just a coin flip? Yeah, you're everything. Dude, there's a girl that's going viral right now because she has a disorder that makes her girl like a full-on-bit beard. I saw that. Yeah. And I was like, you might want to shave. Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't be so hard to shave that, right? [3:04:01] We'll point out, I don't know. I don't know how hard it is for her, but I know how to try it, everything. I think a little shave would be in order. Look a little shave, but who knows what she looks like without the beard? I don't like what I look like when I grow beard. Yeah, so I shave. This is not her. No, I've seen that condition. No, that's not mine. I've seen that condition. That condition is crazy. That's like a wolf person condition. Yeah, that's like the Harry and the handi-sense. Yeah, I've seen that No, but this one is I wonder what the right here. That's a good idea young as female with the brothers She's in the Guinness Book of World Records. It could be cosplay. Yeah, there's always an beard lady Could be a little cosplay She's mighty got some wacky jeans man Apparently it's 10% 10% of women have... Beards? No have whatever. Where are you? No have whatever disorder she has that makes her have a beard. Oh really? Wow. That's crazy. She's very pretty though. She got rid of the beard. She'd be hot. She gave that shit. But I just can't imagine going through the teeth in this shit. But don't you think that you get a lot of attention for being the lady with the beard too? [3:05:06] But is it the kind of attention you won't? I don't know. No. You have a desk car? No. You have a desk car. In this day and age, you might be able to get away with it. You know, this day and age, like being a woman with a beard is kind of wild. to the first thing someone sent me a video of her talking about how like she's like, her problem is that the do's us into her are very like effeminate and she's actually a very girly girl and she wants manly men but manly men they don't want a girl with a beard. So shave. Right. It's like, well you gonna be by yourself, babe. Is that a religious thing? No, the be a thing? Yeah, she not allowed a shave. No, no, no, she, no. I don't think she, I don't think it has anything to do with religion at all. So she just decides except me for who I am. Right. Cause are there religions where women aren't allowed to shave their face? I don't think so. That would be like a good religion Because every woman rule in a religion is to benefit men somehow. [3:06:07] Yes, that's what I was saying. But if they said they couldn't shave, so you wouldn't be able to be deceived. No. Like how, how hairy are you? Yeah, someone, you could just tell different groups of dudes came up with like which religion is it was like when you own your period, you have like all the way. Look at this one way. Hold on, many religions, many religions including Sikhism Islam and sex of Judaism require that men and women do not cut their hair or that men do not shave their beards. So if the women can't cut their hair they can't cut their face here. No they can. Are you sure? Yeah yeah. That just said they couldn't many sex. Is that what he said many sex of it? Is that what's the terminology? Yeah I mean I think the hair they just me on their head. It does, but... They got hairs, your face there, you leave it alone. Yeah, they might take it literally and go in here coming from your head. That might be what it is, dude. For her? No, no, she's seek. She can cut her. She can shave her. Didn't it say seek? Wasn't that one of Right but not for beards. How do you know maybe they told her? [3:07:10] Maybe she had a consult. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe you're right. They say can't cut your hair face hair is hair Can women will look that up can women cut their shave their facial hair? Yeah, you can see good them secretly risk believe women included should refrain from chopping trimming shaving waxing or even Tweezing their hair which should be your face hair in general. Yeah. While there are no penalties as such doing otherwise consider disrespectful to the religion. Yeah. So she's got to keep it. It's the religion. Well listen, I think she need to talk to some mother-seek bitches because I'm pretty sure she ain't the only one with that issue and I'm pretty sure they all did kind of go. I don't know. Skirk the rules. Nobody's got it like that though. Yeah, that's bad. Here's one leaning towards what Brian's saying, but it still is like a, it's ideal Sikh woman. For most Sikhs, it says very, who keeps their hair on their head, but removes facial embody here. Says the way, Kassah, is that how you say it? It's performed for Sikh women is currently heavily influenced by patriarchy. The ideal Sikh woman for most Sikhs, of course, [3:08:06] is various as one who keeps their hair on her head, but still removes facial and body hair. heavily influenced by patriarchy, that's funny. I don't know, no. I think that's also women want to have shaved legs too, don't they? I don't think so. If you make them, like, I'll do it, no, but if you say that they're allowed to make it so that they're allowed in the religion to shave their legs, I think they're probably going to want their legs to be smooth. Most women, they, they're not necessarily, they're shaving their legs for men, but they're also shaving their legs to look hot. Like they think it looks better that way. Right. to look hot. Like they think it looks better that way. But if you allow them to, that's only because we think it looks hot. Like I think of, I think it was surprised you the amount of, like if you took away all social judgment for body hair, it was, I think it was shock you have many women with armpit hair, [3:09:01] kuchye hair, leg hair, all that. It is kind of crazy that trimming hair and body hair, especially for women, is so common. It's so everywhere. It's so standard that the idea of letting it grow is crazy. Right. Isn't that insane? Yeah. Like, crazy hairy legs is like, what are you doing? Yeah. Well, that's just what you're supposed to look like, and for all of human history, that's what people look like. Like, we went over this before, like, what year, 1920s, right? In the 1920s, a new fashion for sleeveless tops and short dresses meant that legs and armpits of American women were now visible in social situations and advertisers seized on the opportunity to encourage women to shave their legs and their armpits. So that was in the 20s. So up into the 20s, everybody was a beast. Just beasts. Just chaos. And I don't know, because when you hear the argument against it, it always sound good on paper when people like everyone should just be free to just have it just natural and [3:10:02] grow like that. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. But then when you see it in action, you're like, no, I prefer. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be just not have a mustache, babe. It's nice that we can do whatever we want. Right, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. I'm gonna shave. You don't, don't, ancient Europeans. Big Egyptians. Oh, excuse me, ancient Egyptians achieve clean look with Depilatory creams also like a hair killing cream and would then repeatedly rub their faces heads arms and legs with a Pumma stone to remove all hair Damn. Oh my god. That's stuff so you definitely couldn't shave your pussy imagine Oh my god, can you imagine? Jesus Christ. There were tough humans Let's wrap this up. Just a sh- Brian Simpson, you're the fucking man. Appreciate you. Looking forward to work with you tonight. Like us, bro. Don't get me fun. Lie from the mothership on Netflix right now. Right now and BS comedian on Instagram. All the social BS comedian, BS with Brian Simpson is my website for tickets. [3:11:05] Are you torn? And I'm on tour, I'm coming everywhere. Woo! Alright, thank you. Bye everybody.