#2080 - John Reeves

Thank you sir. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Good to see you again. Good to be seen. Ha ha. Woo! So tell me what the fuck is going on. How is it? How's things cracking? First of all, congratulations on being proved correct and that there are literally mammoth bones, bison bones, all kinds of bones in the East River. You set it on this podcast, dirty water, dand went out and looked for them, they found bones, they found multiple bones. It's real. It's very real. So the museum dumped bones that belonged to your property. Yeah. Out there in the East River and they're still out there for people to find. How many pounds were dumped? 50 tons. 50 tons. 50 tons. And that was told to me by one of the guys that wrote that report that I read on your show. Good Lord. That's a lot of it knows that many. Yeah, box car. And they found how many bones so far? I don't know. I think Dirty Water Don and those guys found three so far. I say damn sorry. It's here the Dan or Don. Don. I think it's dirty water Dan or dirty water Don. It's Don. Dirty water Don. That's a risky thing that the guy's diving in the East River. Yeah. Hey guys. Yeah, there's a morgue guys out there too. How many guys are out there right now? Don't know how many but I know there's others out there that are making fines. So are they using spotlights? Like how are they seeing things at the bottom of the East River? One is a research vessel. A research vessel. Yeah, and that. Yeah, I'm in a goal mining industry. And we have a code that we don't talk about. So this is one piece and this is a jawbone, correct? [2:01] Yes, sir. Of a stepbison. A belief so. I haven't ever seen it. Mm. But I know he found that was one of the first things he found. He found some mammoth ivory. Yeah, and he found another bone, right? Yes, sir. Some sort of like a leg bone. Yeah. Right there, yeah. So this is his, uh, his Instagram is dirty water dawn on Instagram and that's another bone that they found right there. And so they know roughly the location and it's kind of amazing that this stuff was dumped in, was it the 30s? When was this dumped? In the 40s. The 40s. Yes, sir. So this stuff was dumped, that's outrageous. That's an outrageous photograph. How dare you, Don? This stuff was dumped in the 40s and to this day, this is the first time that people have actually gotten looking for things. Correct. Yes, sir. So it's been a dirty little secret for decades. Well, proven true now. Sure has been. The museum still continues to deny it though, correct? They won't talk to me. [3:12] Well, I'm when I drew and Laura and I and my wife went to New York a few years ago, they were supposed to meet with us and they decided to have a standout in the rain for four hours. Really? Yeah. And they wouldn't meet with you? No. So you went all the way to New York to meet with them? Well, I went there to the floors club to show the documentary. There was a screening of the documentary on the bone yard. And what did they just decide that you're too problematic? I think so, yeah. Well, how are you problematic? I don't understand. I'm problematic in many, many ways. I think you're great because I don't think they ever envisioned somebody like me owning this company. Right. That's probably the problem. Yeah. The problem is you're honest. Yeah. Just some degree. I'm a gold miner after all. Yeah. You know, Mark Twain said, miners is a liar standing next to a hole in the ground. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, he marked Twain was the shit. [4:06] Yeah, it wasn't. He really was. Boy, was that guy ahead of his time? You know, a lot of people credit him for being the first standup comedian. I didn't know that. Yeah, because, you know, there's a, standup comedy is a truly American art form. And it seems like Twain was the first guy to do it because essentially what he would do is read his humorous works in front of people and they would all laugh. So he would be playing to the crowd and it was one of the first iterations of stand-up comedy, it was Mark Twain. And obviously he's a very funny guy. Very insightful and humorous and somebody great quotes from this one individual, you know? So they left you in the rain and then nobody has spoken to you sense or what? They don't talk to me. What are they afraid of? It's not even them. [5:01] You got to think this is all done in the 1940s. Everybody who did is probably dead. They just don't want to return the bones. Oh, so they have more bones. Oh, yeah. This is just the stuff they threw in the river is not even the good stuff. I don't know if you saw it little video I posted of the they're collecting techniques where they threw them in a big pile. No idea where they came from. It's on my Instagram. So they just don't want to address it. So do you have lawyers involved? Like what's going on so far? Everybody's encouraged me to litigate this. I've been involved in litigation before and I have a pretty good track record because I protect my property rights. I don't care if it's real property or intellectual property. Well, this seems like they're going to have to... I mean, there's just too much pressure now. With the fact that they've actually found real bones in the East River that there's no other way they could have gotten there. [6:00] I mean, just how else are you going to find a stepbison bone in the fucking East River? It's clear that they dumped that stuff. Oh, yeah. And they they denied it for you know check this out. So it says I Oh, these are the first and reminders of a period when cavemen were not the only things girls had to look out for. Wow. That was that was him. No, you're always a reason to find. Gold miners in Alaska loosening up the frozen earth found not gold but the treasures of past ages. A mammoth's tusk nine feet long was just a part of the 12 tons of ivory on earth in a year. Wow. These are the fearsome reminders of a period when cavemen were not the only things girls had to look out for. So there the way they they talked back then was so strange. Little weird weird talk. Like why they all choose to talk like that. I don't know. Very weird. It's like when they first heard themselves recording. I would like to sound a little bit more fancy. Anyways, that's their collecting techniques. And they sent everything. [7:03] They weren't supposed to take all that stuff. They were only supposed to take all that stuff. They were only supposed to take bones of scientific value and they were supposed to research everyone they took and they were supposed to, under the agreement I had with them, or my company, do a report annually on everything they took. And it was a tri-artite agreement with the University of Alaska, AM&H and my company, Fairman's Exploration. And they didn't do any of it. And when I bought the company, I went to the University Museum and the curator there. I said, I bet you know why I'm here. He goes, I think I do. I said, I want the bones back. He goes, let's go to New York City. Let's go get them. So we all went to New York City to get them. And they gave me a nice tour downstairs of the basement and showed me the tons and tons they had done there. Hundreds and hundreds of mammoth tusks. Really? You know, it was great. The wooden crates and everything else. [8:00] And what are they doing with them? Nothing. They're supposed to do reports and research on them They haven't done anything in a hundred years So is it because they don't have the funding to do the work on them? And they just want to store them because they're pack rats like what are they doing? Well, they don't have they don't have the stratigraphic information about where that stuff comes from Oh, you have that I have all of them. Yeah, and one of the authors of that report I read last year was trying to get us together so we could make some sense out of this collection. And like Drew and I were talking earlier, it's like a thousand piece, Jigsaw puzzle, I only got 20 pieces. I want the whole thing on the table and we'll research all of it because the secrets to the extinction event are in those bones. Yeah, it seems like it. It is. Well, let's talk about that because one of the things that you have found is a layer of carbon, a layer of dark carbon that seems to indicate a mass fire. Yes. And that where the animals are, it's so unusual that there are so many bones in the same sort of layer [9:09] That exists in one place. Yeah, that something had to happen for them to all die in that one spot And this is something that Randall Carlson has pointed out before you know, they found The other places were I forget where the other places were, was it Siberia? Were they found massive amounts of mammoths that were all in one area that seemed to have died instantaneously? Some of them with like broken leg bones seemed to have died because of an impact or the force of the impact. Well, like I told you last time, I think it's all secondary deposition from water because there's such a wide spectrum of very few mummified remains. We found some this summer. And I think I told you last year that the oldest sample we took was 22,000 years old. [010:03] And some people, you know, I have that ice age fossil works by little shards of ivory. And I told them to one guy, I said, why don't you carbonated if you want to know the story. So he sent it off to a lab and had it carbonated, 40,000 years old. So there might be enough in there for two dryest events. Mm. Which is probably likely. Could have. Yeah, well, what Randall and Graham Hancock would they believe in the younger driest impact theory proponents believe is that distinctly something around 11,800 years ago, and then maybe something also around 10,000 years ago. But that doesn't preclude or that doesn't dismiss the idea that there could have been one, 30,000 years, 40,000 years ago. But that doesn't preclude or, that doesn't dismiss the idea that there could have been one. 30,000 years, 40,000 years. It could have been multiple events. Could have been. Because of this time that we pass through this comet shower, it's every June and November, I believe. [011:00] And I've posted that picture before of the Burnt Bedrock in a gravel above it. Yes, see if you can find that photo Jamie Because that's fascinating too because that that seems to indicate that something massive happened something did happen. Yeah and The problem with this deposit now I got to be careful what I say after last time What would you do when I was here with you last time? Did you get crazy? Would you say? I'm afraid I bullshit you do a little bit. Because when I got back to Fairbanks, my surveyor comes up to me. His name's Albert. He says you got a lot of nerve bullshit and I'm like that. I said what are you talking about? He said you told him the site that you dug all these up in five acres. I said, yeah, he uses 2.1 acres. Oh. Okay, I'm going to tell him I'm sorry. Well, that's, I apologize. That's actually even more insane, right? So do you, do you think that this is like the water had washed these bodies into a [012:02] very specific area? I think, I think there's a bigger system of water in play that we don't really understand yet. When we started going up the gulch, it's what it is as a gulch. And it's about... Well, the way I can describe it, it's sure as narrow, but it sure is long. So this year we decided let's go back to the beginning and we moved the pump and everything back down to where we started 15-16 years ago. They can okay let's see how wide this is and soon as we started doing it we started finding more tusks, more animal parts, more of everything. And we found those crazy sod bones. Yeah, the crazy sod bones are very interesting. So let's talk about that because we've showed photos on the podcast before and that these sod bones, now you have carbon data them and they're to win. There they are. [013:01] Yeah, you know, I'm gonna believe this because we got all excited when we found them. Yeah. Plus or minus 200 years There are 190 years so what what kind of animal are these from I don't know But they're 200 years old 190 here. I brought one with me. Oh really this is The story about how these were found is I got a call one day I was out there at the Boneyard. My daughters have a tourist business around the corner a little bit called Gold Daughters and Elora called me and goes, Dad there's a state trooper over here and want to talk to you. And I look around and I truck to see what I got in it. I said, okay, I'll be right over. I go over. And we had some stuff going on at the time. And I didn't think there was any reports filed any place. But I go over there and introduce myself to this [014:01] guy. And his name is Eric Spitzer. He's a head state trooper in Fairbanks. He says, I was just out in the neighborhood. I wanted to come by and introduce myself. I saw Young Joe Rogan's podcast. I love fossils. I love what this is all about. It's my kids like to look for bones and I take them out and what we look for stuff. And I just wanted to come by and introduce myself. And the excitement in his just him talking to me. I said, well follow me over. I'll go show it to you right now. So he went over to the bone yard. He got out and he looked around. He couldn't believe it. He picked up some bone parts. I said, well now you're a boner. He just got some bone parts. I said, well, now you're a boner. He just got to find one. And, uh, he's bullshit a little bit. He goes, you might if I bring my kids out sometime, I said, bring them out this weekend. We'll fire the pumps up. I'll turn you guys loose and then we'll come check on you once in a while. And they found a pallor to full of bones. Little fragments, leg bones, and then they came back [015:06] the next weekend. They found a mammoth tusk, and they found these sawed bones. A few of them. We got 15 of them now that they found. And so I told everybody that those bones are now called the spitzer, the spitzer finds. Two little young daughters found them. Sometimes it just takes a new set of eyes. I don't know how many of those we've picked up in the past, but we never looked at it that way. So I brought one with me. This is the one that I carbon dated. And so this is the one that's 200 plus years old. Right. Now that, see, you see that notch right there. That's what I cut out to send in to get carbon dated and so this is This is some sort of a joint is that a femur's at the top of a femur The lady Jeanette rhymes Dakota Huntress. She thinks it's a most most leg bone. Mm-hmm, but set it on its end there other other in [016:06] Okay But set it on its end there, other in. Okay. Now, 200 years ago, what kind of utility would that have to do that? What kind of utility to do that? Yeah, what do you mean? Well, the people that did that, why would they have a bone like that? I would imagine they'd get to the marrow. Yeah, but then what? You eat it. You have a bone like that. I would imagine to get to the marrow. Yeah, but then what? You eat it. Maybe a candle. Maybe some, like some marrow to... Well, I would imagine they're eating the marrow. Because if you're eating the marrow... The info is eating the marrow and that's how they do it. I mean, if you get marrow now, that's how you do it. But I think there's some utility to that bone is what I'm saying. Yeah, just the way it sits You could have put fire embers in it to keep you know overnight because this was 200 years ago Yeah, this was a hundred years before Fairbanks was discovered this was [017:00] This is even more of a mystery to me. So is this Russians? They obviously don't know Russia. It's about the same time frame. Yeah Russians owned Alaska. And I wouldn't surprise me if they didn't go up. They found it anchorage in the late 1700s. I think the utility of it is just a coincidence, honestly, because it doesn't look like it's been worked at the bottom. No. No. I agree with you. I don't know. That's the whole thing. None of us know. I mean, I'm sure they have used some of these before like that for something But if I had a guess I would I would guess that this is just something that they did to get at the marrow where all the good fat is You know, maybe they had some vodka and they ported in there. Yeah Perhaps I don't know they probably had some kind of metal cups back then well those two little you just showed They look like cups for me Hmm they could have been they certainly could be some sort of a Thing that you could drink out of certainly the right size for a good shot of vodka. Yeah, but so [018:00] Were there supposedly people living in that area back then no no Hmm were there supposedly people living in that area about them? No. No. Hmm. Hmm. It's right. Because up till now, the dating sequences have been 3000 before present to now is 40,000 years before present. Hmm. That puts it up to 200 years before present. Which is interesting. It is interesting. So what do you think is going on? I have no idea. Does anybody have a theory? There's probably a lot of theories, but that's the whole point about all this stuff. Nobody knows. Well at least we know you didn't come up with evidence that the saw is older than 5,000 years old, which is one of the things that we're thinking. Which is I was hoping that was gonna be the case. Yeah, that would have been wild. And when I got the carbon dates, I'm gonna not dammit. But thinking about it though, it's even more of an interesting thing. How much of a recorded history do we have of that area from 200 years ago? None. None. [019:01] So was it mostly like, have you ever seen seen that Werner Herzog documentary, Happy People, Life in the Tiger? It's about people who live in Siberia right now, to this day, and they live this incredibly primitive life. Really all they have is snowmobiles and some hand tools, and maybe some chainsaws. And most of what they do is just living off the land, trapping, fishing, hunting. That's it. And they, you know, they're very low instances of mental illness. Everyone is very happy. All these communities of these people living together, just surviving, living off the land, subsistence lifestyle. But I don't think there's much historical record on those people. The people that are alive there right now, if they were to die off 200 years from now, what evidence is there of them? Other than you might find some stuff that they did, might find some trees they cut down or some logs or whatever's gonna be around still, [020:03] 200 years from now that'd be preserved. Yeah. Well, we did find the skinning rock across the valley on top of the hill that still don't know where that's how old that is or where that's from. Skinning rock. Skinning rocks. So it posted there. And it's been worked. Yeah there's even a little indent on the side for your finger as you flesh something out. And what is it made out of? Stone from Eastern Europe. Remember we talked a little about that. Oh, that's right. That's right. And it wasn't local. Right. So, there was a lot of travel and migrate and going on across that bearing land bridge because it was ice-free corridor. Yeah. And it went all the way into the lower 48. So there's a lot of stuff that we find as I said last time that they say didn't live there but it sure died there. Yeah like let's talk about that like what different animals did they say didn't live there that you personally and your company has found evidence of? Dire wolves being one of them. Sabre Tooth, being another one. [021:08] I found one and my company found one before I was around. Son of the New York City, I asked to see them, but they didn't have them available. Let's see what else we got. Badgers, elk. And they didn't think they were around back then? Why did they not think that Elk were in that area back then? Because Elk are in Alaska. Because they never found any Elk bones. Right. But that's it. It's just they didn't find the bones. They didn't find the bones. But they literally didn't think that saber-two titles lived in that area. They didn't think that. In fact, in that film, that documentary film, Pat Druckermiller, who's a curator now in the director of the museum, says to their knowledge none of them ever been found there. Wow. But to my knowledge they have been because on a shipping manifest to him an age that one was sent to him. When I found was stolen by the British [022:01] museum, never returned. So I'm on kind of a little bit of a rampage these days about the museums and what they're known with these collections. It's kind of a one-man thing as a cause. I think it's important. Well I think it is important because these museums are run by these academics and academics. It is important because these museums are run by these academics and academics. Unfortunately, some of them tend to be very arrogant and they want to be able to control whatever narrative they have or whatever information they have and they don't want to be open about it. No. And the AMNH is a private institution, but the Smithsonian is a public entity that's owned by us. Amin H is a private institution, but the Smithsonian is a public entity that's owned by us. So the answer to a different set of rules is Smithsonian has to respond to a FOIA request. Amin H is what are you going to do? Suas will stump break you. Was that mean? [023:00] Bend you over a log and we'll break you. Oh, with money. With money, with lawyers, with all that litigation costs. Why don't we fucking crowdfund something? Well, because I have another plan. This is a plan that's going to work. Okay. I have people in our state legislature working on this right now. There's a senator named Click Bishop, who's on the finance committee. He's on the resources committee. He's the majority whip and he's in making efforts to get the bones back to Alaska from the state of Alaska. Now, Amin H might be able to take on John Reeves. There's some break me. But they can't do it to the state of Alaska. But they can't do it to the state of Alaska. The state of Alaska go toe-to-toe with them some bitches. Now after we get that through the House and state legislature, the Senate and the House, we'll go to the congressional delegation. You've heard what an act of Congress is, don't you? You know what that is? Sure. [024:01] A.M.N.H. Give them their goddamn bones back. A.M.N.H. give them their goddamn bones back. A.M.N.H. is going to see the light. This is a political solution to this. Not lawyers, not all that stuff. I got nothing to gain from this. You know, I'm just trying to get them back in Alaska, so we have that thousand-piece puzzle to put together. They were supposed to be studied and researched and answers to the extinction event art within the bones. And so you've never been given any explanation as to why they haven't done this research? They didn't feel like it. They just didn't feel like it. Is it because they don't have the resources or it just wasn't a priority for them? And this was all done from the 1940s, and there's no reason for them to go back and take that stuff and re-enact the research or begin the research. It's impossible for them to come up with any scientific research because they don't have the stratigraphic information. They don't even know where it was found. But I do, let's put it all together, boys, [025:03] and then we'll study it. I just don't understand why they wouldn't want to do that. That seems to me an incredible opportunity to attain enlightenment on an area that's fascinating. I mean, have any academics reached out to you after the podcast? Not that I know of. How not? How not? How not. I mean, me just finding your Instagram page, it was like, Jesus Christ, how is this guy have all these bones? Like this is crazy. What is this place? This place seems like what an amazing fortunate find that you guys have this one spot, 2.1 acres, and probably a whole lot more around that area that you haven't uncovered yet. That has this incredible wealth of bones. It's amazing. It's fucking incredible. Yeah. And that's why that cut bone, by the way, I noticed you don't have a spitzer bone [026:01] out there in your lobby. What's a spitzer bone? That's what we call the spitzer bones. Oh, yeah. You ain't got one of those in your lobby. No, I'm a fix that shit. Okay, thank you. You're welcome. We do have the step bison here though. I saw it out there. It looks nice where it's sitting. We're trying to figure out how to display it. I think I'm gonna have a stand built and just have it sit out there. I've got people going, oh he needs to get a Cadillac, I'm on it on the hood. Well, that's not a bad idea. As long as you don't drive it around. Once I get a ranch out here, I'll do that. I'll put it on the ranch truck. There you go. But I think, no, that's not good. That could be preserved. be the blue babe buys almost 38,000 years old And that's you know they could have known each other back in a day. Well, it looks old as fuck. It is old as fuck Yeah What an amazing amazing spot you have do you ever stop and just think how insane it is? I Do when I have people like Eric Spitzer and his daughters show up and they're just the happiness [027:05] and I have people like Eric Spitzer and his daughters show up and they're just the happiness. They're just so gleeful. Yeah. And sometimes I need to see that to remember that what we're doing is kind of worthwhile. No, it's very worthwhile. It means that people enjoy it and they like seeing it and they like doing it and we just haven't figured out a way to let everybody do it. Well it just seems to me that this is an extraordinary opportunity to gain some understanding. And that's why I don't understand why these universities or someone hasn't reached out to you and said, hey, we need to really have a full-scale investigation and find out what happened here. This is an extraordinary place. And it may unlock a lot of pieces to this puzzle as to what happened to humanity. There's clearly some indication that we have a very limited understanding of the history of human beings in terms of what took place where we're starting to uncover [028:08] these immense structures that seemed to indicate that people had very complex construction methods, many thousands of years before we thought they were capable of doing that, many thousands. Yeah. They'll go back to the tapy, which is buried 11,000 plus plus years ago back when they thought people were hunter gatherers and that's just what we found we we and that now they've done through light are that whole area around go back to the tapie they found tons of these things they're all over the place out there and that's how many more of these spots are there on earth that we just haven't found yet. Who knows? Who knows? And your area where that, have they done a core sample where they've gone through that carbon layer to find out like what year that all took place yet? No. Wow. [029:00] That's interesting. And it's partially my fault because I tell everybody look until we get our bones back from the bowels of the AM&H, nothing's going to get studied. If they want to do this and continue doing this, they can deal with Drew out there because we're not going to just say, okay, we'll study 20 pieces of a thousand piece sub puzzle. We're just two guys with one giant. My company had 200 giants run and at the same time for over 40 years. Recovered tens of thousands and thousands of bones, all of which were taken to New York. 50 tons of which were dumped at least one time in the East River and maybe more than that. Now why did they dump those in the East River? Did they just need the storage? I don't know. They just had an abundance of them. They had so many of them and they said, ah nobody's gonna give us any money for this. I have an idea that's a good cover story for making sure your wealthy donors get a little something something and get them off the books. So some of them they [030:02] dumped and some of them they gave away. would think I would imagine museums aren't money making institutions right and so I Think a lot of the times they get something donated Especially when there's no control at all. There was no control on this right sort of like when we send money to Ukraine Okay, yeah, why aren't we sending money to Maui right? Yeah, okay? I've said that many times hundred hundred billion dollars to Ukraine. Okay. Yeah, why don't we send a money to Maui? Right. Yeah. Okay. I've said that many times. 100 billion dollars to Ukraine. We could have built a gas land from the North Slope to the lower 48 and a water line from Southeast Alaska to Northern California and took care of the people in Maui. Yeah. And still have some change left over. Yeah a lot of change. But no. Yeah. It's crazy. It is. It is. And that's it seems like what's happening with your bones and your property and the lack of I don't want to say if it's a lack of interest. I'm sure they're interested but the lack of action. [031:02] It's symbolic of a lot of the problems that we have in our society today. Mischmanagement, man. Massive. Massive. And a Confederacy of Dances that are running the show. Yeah, they are. And seemingly they don't care what we think. No. Well, that's, you know, they have too much on their plate. Why are they going to talk about some fucking dude in Alaska, who's out of his mind, blown water into this side of permafrost, pull it out, all kinds of crazy skulls. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, I'm in business, you're in business. We have a divided Congress. We got half, a little bit more than half think this president we got should be impeached. We got the other lower a little bit less than half not one of them think he should be impeached. So my belief as a business guy as long as they're fucking with each other they're not fucking with me. They're leaving us [032:01] alone. Right. And that's kind of what's going on right now. Boy. Imagine that being the best case scenario in 2023. With all the information that we have today, with AI, with chat GPT, 4.0, soon to be five, with all the technology we have available, all the understanding that we have available, and we're still just, I'd want everybody to leave us alone. That's the best case scenario. It's just They've they stayed busy with themselves and what do what we want? Yeah, it's better than them helping us Yeah, we don't want it. Yeah, but if if The other part is I don't want to let my bones leave Alaska. Right, of course. They'd never seem to come back. Right, I wouldn't trust them anymore. And the British Museum, like, have they given any sort of an explanation of what they did with that saber-toothed tiger skull? No. Somebody's probably got that in their living room. Yeah, they do. [033:00] Yeah. But, George, look what I have here. Oh, my. I made a sizable donation to the museum and they gifted me with this wonderful seaheer to Tiger School. In that case, I think the guy never even got back to the museum. I think he just took it home. Mm. You know, he was working for him, but there are a bunch of, uh, it's like we don't sell bones from the bone yard. You know, sell bones. We've given some bones away. That's because I own them, I can give them away. They didn't own them. You know, museums don't own them. So they were supposed to research them, what were they supposed to do? There it is, Sabre II Tiger School. Wow, a million dollars at auction. Yeah. Wow, that's 2019. I know a guy who has one of those. He's a very wealthy guy. And he actually has a real saber-jutiger skull in his desk in a plexiglass case. That's awesome. Yeah, just like that. I think that's how he got it. I think he got it in the auction. [034:01] Yeah. Yeah. And how did he get to the auction good question, right? It's probably yours. You probably bought yours. Mine wasn't that good looking That was a good looking skull. That's a good looking skull. Yeah, his is a good looking skull as well. His is fully intact Yeah, no mind wasn't that good. How many of them do they have that are fully intact out there in the wild? Well, LeBrea there's a lot of them, LeBrea tar pits. Alaska is a, you know, keep it in perspective. I'm down here. Your neck, the woods, there's probably two or three hundred thousand more people living this city of Austin than living the entire state of Alaska. The whole state. Yeah. I mean yesterday, Drew and I were going, Hey, let's drive out and look at the farms and the countryside. We drove for two hours, we couldn't get out of town. We ended up at the airport every time. But there's a lot of boy, there's a lot of building going on over [035:00] last year. Yeah. It's like the whole human. Yeah, it is. It's now the 10th largest city in the country. It's a little tiny ass city at one point in time. Not anymore. No. It's blown up. When you guys gonna get a football team. It's a good question. It's a good question. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how that shit works. I don't know how that shit works either, but boy they love football out. Which is got one. It's got one. I want to the UT game. It's massive boy. The just the college team out here. Holy shit. Crazy. Yeah. Wow. It's like a religion out here. Football is nuts out here. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. It's a fucking cool place to live too. Yeah, it's awesome so we We looked around looked around and said I was just look around a little bit more Saw parts of Austin that probably are not on the beaten track beaten track but hey I thought let's drive out of the border and [036:03] See if we get kicked out of Mexico. He goes it's 485 miles. I said we ain't going. Yeah, it's a haul. I've gone down to South Texas to do some hunting and the place that I went to they actually found a dead migrant on their property and he said it's not uncommon that it happens quite often poor guys get lost and trying to make their way across and run out of water and they do it in July and just die out there unfortunately. Well, I don't blame the people for wanting to come here at all. No. My family and we all came from Europe. Mine did too. And All came from Europe. Minded too. And it's just it doesn't seem to be any management of what's going on. It seems to be the opposite of management. Yeah. It seems like a concerted effort to flood the country. That sure does. And not just this country. It seems like it's happening all over Europe. It's real weird. Yeah. [037:00] So weird time. It's like this is the only time in my life that I've ever wondered, like really, really wondered and seriously considered the fact that there's some puppet masters that are slowly orchestrating the collapse of civilization. You know, you talked about AI. Well, someday, and probably not too far in the future, you'll be able to do your podcast without even being here. AI will have you sitting there, have me sitting here and it will be guessing what we're going to talk about. Yeah, good luck. Yeah, no shit. AI is going to be able to do a really good job of recreating the kind of conversations that we've had, but they're not gonna be able to really recreate human stupidity. I don't understand what happens when people get drunk. You know, I don't think AI is gonna be able to recreate, protect our parks. I don't think they're gonna, they're not gonna, [038:00] there's like, there's certain aspects of just genuine human chaos that AI I don't think is ever gonna grasp because it doesn't have a soul and the other thing is you don't know if you what you just saw is Real right that's a real problem now that is a real problem because right now the stuff you say it can be real Yeah, but it is real wait till they get AI going it's already going I mean, well, I think what we're seeing right now is just really the tip of the iceberg or their capabilities and Wonder you know, I had Sam Altman on who is the He was the head dog at open AI and they kicked him out and they brought him back in and there's some sort of weird Explanation of why they kicked him out and they were saying that he and there's some sort of weird explanation of why they kicked them out and they were saying that he wasn't forthcoming about something and the concern is that this artificial intelligence has reached sentience like it can think for itself. It can act on its own. [039:01] It can create things. It literally is a life form now. No. It's going to be. It's going to be at one important time an artificial life form. Has it done it already? It's very possible. You know, I've been thinking, you know, the speed of light was always the standard growing up, nothing faster than a speed of light. Then I thought there is something faster than that. It than a speed of light. Then I thought there is something faster than that. It's a speed of thought. We can think faster than that light can travel. I'll give you an example of that. I saw it online. That's be true. There's 200 billion trillion stars in a known galaxy. That's not just some guy making that shit up. That's a real smart person that's done the studies on this universe. 200 billion trillion galaxies. There are stars. How many planets would that be if they averaged five a piece? [040:06] Yeah. That's a bunch. That's a bunch. That's such a massive thing to think about. There's no point in even thinking about it. You know, you know, it's by me, I just want to go pick up bones at the bone yard. Well, then it goes deeper than that. Well, there's a couple of ways it goes deeper than that. Well, there's a couple ways it goes deeper than that. First of all, in the center of every galaxy is a super massive black hole that I think is, I think it's, what is it? One half of 1% of the mass of the entire galaxy that's in something on those lines. So the larger the galaxy, the larger the supermassive black hole. And there's real speculation that if you went through that black hole, you reach another universe with also hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars, [041:04] each one of those galaxies has a supermassive black hole, you go through that, another universe. Hundreds of billions of galaxies, hundreds of billions of black holes, go through them, hundreds of billions of galaxies, new universes, everywhere. And then there's dimensions. This is the real speculation when people start talking about UAPs and alien life and there's two thoughts. One thought, well there's more than two thoughts. One thought is that they are us from the future. Another thought is they are us from their people, their things, their intelligent life forms, maybe even artificial intelligence, something that has been created from other galaxies that is physically transported here. And then the other thought is there's interdimensional travel that there are beings from somewhere that are capable of visiting this dimension that we exist in, but they exist in something. So they are here all the time. [042:06] They're just here in a way that we have no ability to access them, but they can access us. And time, and I've heard you say this, something we made up. There's no such thing as time. This is the only time right now. Yeah, it's gone already. Yep. It's here. It's gone. Right. Now you talk about, be nice. What. Yeah, it's gone already. Yep. It's here. It's gone right Now you talk about Be nice. What is this Jamie quick animation now? I'm made to give you a size of reference if you will okay that starts with the middle thing is the Sun our Sun and I think these are different Supermassive black holes right or small obviously I'm gonna try speed it up so it doesn't take too long I'll make a two speed This is the orbit of mercury There's one there it gets really big here really quick though So these are other supermassive black holes that are just in our galaxy. Yeah, there's the Milky Way [043:02] Astride belt just went away Watch out speeds up here it comes a big one outside of the solar system our galaxy yeah there's the Milky Way Astrid Belt just went away watch out speeds up here it comes a big one outside of the solar system what the fuck I'm bigger one and wait for the big one oh my god so that one's just sitting out there tons 618 wow and I guess, then yeah, all of that times two or I don't know how big is inside that. Like reverse, I don't know. Yeah, go inside that, you find another universe. Yeah, which is weird that like the universe is so big, we can't even wrap our head around it. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. The tip of the iceberg is not even a good way to describe it. It's grain of sand. Maybe it's not even grain of sand. Maybe it's an atom. Maybe it's not even an atom. Maybe it's a subatomic particle. And maybe the whole thing is fractal. So maybe what we are and what this planet is. I mean, I'm sure you've seen when they look at, [044:06] if you've ever seen the, um, a map of the known universe in comparison to, uh, a neuron in the human brain, see if you can find that. It, it's entirely possible that it it's just constantly if you constantly expand further and further out that this entire universe is an atom. It's a part of a much larger organism that exists in another universe that is infinitely large that is impossible for us to grasp our head around. So that's a brain cell and that's galaxies. And when you look at that, I mean, God damn those things look the same. They look the same. Neural network and the cosmic web, they look the same. [045:03] And if they are the same, if that is what a brain cell is, the entire universe is a part of the brain of an infinitely large individual that's a part of a civilization that also exists in another universe that's a part of an infinitely large being. That's a brain cell of that. That universe is a brain cell of that thing. And then it just keeps going and going and going and going. And even the idea of the big thing is just like, maybe not. Maybe it's always been here. Maybe it's just constant. And maybe it's God. Maybe the whole thing. Maybe those people, aliens, whatever you wanna call it, visited Earth about 65, 75 million years ago and they said, hey, no life like us can live here [046:03] with these dinosaurs running around. Yeah. As burn as some bitch down. It could be. And poof. It could be that's just how it's sort of designed that the thing is designed to like the only reason for us to advance and the only reason for us to create civilization is you can't live where you are without structure. You can't live where you are without agriculture. You can't live where you are without controlling resources. And so then as they fight off the predators, they develop better weapons. As they fight off the Mongol hordes, they develop better methods of protecting civilization and societies and it just keeps expanding further and further and further all of it to encourage technological innovation and that without that strife, without the problem, what the problems that we have in the world today, what if they didn't exist? Everyone's like, oh we'd have [047:00] utopia, would be, would we? I don we i don't know it seems like we're designed for chaos we're designed for constant struggle and maybe that's like uh... an engine to further encourage innovation and to further encourage society to progress further further and that you have to battle against the evil forces you have to battle against incompetent government. Otherwise, you have no motivation to do better. Well, I think the pandemic was brought on a whole series of mental disorders in this country. Oh, yeah. In this world, we're getting set up for it again probably. Yeah. And you were talking once about Quite desperation. Yeah There's a lot of people that were worried. I was worried you know, I have a family when all that started going on And I'll know yeah, I want to protect my family if I can I Can't [048:02] Nobody can Not when they're making viruses and labs for what reason. Right. Why would you make that virus? Right. You know, it's crazy. Right. Why? Why are you making them more infectious, more dangerous, more deadly? Why are you taking viruses that were never designed to infect humans and didn't exist in the human population and you're engineering them? Why so you can study them so you can get research money? Like what are you doing? Maybe that virus is designed to make people a little crazy. I'm sure there are You know just make them go nuts kind of like what's going on. Right. We got should go on, you know, you talk about planet killers. We can kill this planet right now if we want. If all those triggers get pulled and all the, Oh yeah. Many times over. Yup. That's where we're at. It's unfortunate that we have to live like that and think about that. We shouldn't be thinking about that. [049:02] No. We shouldn't be. No, we shouldn't be, but we are. But again, maybe that's part of the design of how the human race evolves, that it has to go through these things in order to have an incentive to restructure things and get better. I don't know. I don't know. If the problem is also our personal timeline of being a human being is so limited and so short that by the time you realize how fucked everything is, it's sort of the end of your ride. By the time you really, if you ever read War as a Racket by Smetley Butler. No. It's a great piece that was written by a guy who was a general, who it was in the 1930s. And at the end of his career, he wrote this piece called War is a Racket. And what he thought he was doing versus what the motivation for these military actions actually were. See if you can find that, Jamie. [050:07] And it's a very famous piece that was written by Smendly Butler. War is a racket. Yeah, the book's not very long, but this is a great quote. War is a racket. It's always been, it's possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious, is the only international in scope. The only one, international in scope scope is the only one in which profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. He wrote this very long piece explaining all the military campaigns that he was involved in and what they were really about, was about making things, you know, protecting bankers, protecting the investments of oil companies and all the different things that what he thought they were and what they really were. I spent 33 years in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for bankers. In short, I was a raccoteer, a gangster for capitalism. And he wrote that in 1935. Wow. [051:01] Yeah. And he had figured it out by the end of his tenure, When he was looking back at his career as like Jesus Christ, I thought I was doing the right thing. I thought I was protecting the world. You know, you get so many years and like, we've made it both around one more trip around the Suns since I saw you last time. Yeah. And when the mammoths had a built-in escape, you get six sets of teeth. When the last set is gone, you've starved the death. Yeah. Real simple. Real simple. That's the wild. Yeah. The wild is a built-in system. And our ancestors, you know, that were living with us, and I'll say this, because I know they were living with us back in the ice age. And they weren't working against us, and we weren't working against them. All that we wanted to do was survive from one day to the next. This was so brutal. And that's all they wanted to do. I went off on this a little bit recently about the way that we portray [052:08] mammoths being the extinction caused by humans. I'm going, no, you got it all wrong. We live with them side by side for tens of thousands of years. What if we kind of lived together? What if we went out and collected their wool and made clothing? What if we didn't run them off cliffs? I've seen the spear tips. You're not going to stick that through five inches of fur, three inches of skin leather to hit a vital organ and a woolly mammoth thrown by a guy from Meeta Jamie. First of all, you're not gonna get that close. It'll stop the shit outta you. Woolly mammoths had 10, 12 foot tusks. They just don't stand there going, oh, stick a spear in me. They're swinging their head and they're cleaning stuff out. The short face bear is new better. [053:01] Short face bear will go after baby mammoth, but not a big woolly mammoth. I think they were kind of like domesticated to some degree. That's the same thing with Muscoxon. I talked to Slinges be up there and I know him about this. He spends a lot of time out there with the Muscoxon. He sees how they protect their young. Yeah. I can see kind of us living with those guys and domesticating them with some degree. Hey, you live us alone. We'll leave you alone, but let's work together. We didn't always stick spears in them. You know, all the paintings you see now, even prints on online shows, this caveman sticking a spear in a mammoth. I call bullshit on that. And you know why I can do that? Because nobody can say you're full of shit. Because they don't know either. Now, it's a lot of speculation. And until the younger dries impact theory, the main theory is to do the extinction event [054:03] was the berserker theory. That human beings had become such effective hunters. theory, the main theory is to do the extinction event was the berserker theory, that human beings had become such effective hunters. And by the way, this was, this preceded the invention of the bow and arrow. This is the atel, atel. So which is essentially like a better method of throwing a spear. Like, I have this thing that I throw the ball for with my dog. Yeah. We got one of those. You know what I mean? It's like it's like a cup at the end of it and a long stick and it allows you to whip that ball really far with leverage and they had something along those lines that they would throw a spear with. And you know, you probably could kill some young mammoths with that. You definitely could kill some bison with that. Who care boo? I ain't kill some stuff, but kill them all. No. No. I don't think so either. I think it was an impact event. There were very few people in the Ice Age anyways. You know, very few. They didn't travel in groups of 100 or 200, I don't think. We'd have found evidence of that. But if your choice is to go, let's go knock over that, that caribou over there. [055:07] Or let's go over there to that woolly mammoth and half a half of us get killed. What do you say, boys? Well, first of all, you can go kill that caribou skin at gut, it need it for a few days. Meat won't go bad. Right. You knock over woolly mammoth with the 25 hundred pounds of meat. won't go bad. Right. You knock over a woolly man with the 25 hundred pounds of meat. You ain't going to eat very much before it all goes bad. Yeah. And we have a woolly man with brain in our, one of our permafrost tunnels. Oh really? Yeah. We, uh, we're way ahead on this frozen DNA stuff. We formed a little, we have is permafrost tunnels They stay frozen year-round. There's no electricity and there's no no cost to it Just stays frozen and that's what you have to do with DNA material. Keep it frozen So you find something substantial you put it in one of the tunnels And come back to that later [056:02] You know we'll get that later. So you have the brain that's inside of the skull? No, it's outside the skull. Really? Yeah, it was found frozen. How did it outside the skull? Probably the woolly mammoth got ripped apart and the brain got frozen into the gravel and the muck. How intact is it? Half of it's there. Wow. And the paleontologist. You got a photo of this thing? I don't know if I posted one or not. I'll have to look. That's pretty intense. It is. I think I got one. Not all ask you if he's got one. There's a company in Dallas that's gonna supposedly bring them back. You know about this? They have, I think, an Indian elephant, which has a large percentage of the DNA that a woolly mammoth has, and then they're going to splice that with whatever DNA they have of woolly mammoths, and they're going to recreate woolly mammoths. [057:02] We're how far away we from Jurassic Park? How far away we from some asshole putting a fucking dinosaur in Costa Rica? Those guys were all up in Fairbanks that ones you're talking about. Brought them out to the bone yard and showed them some of the stuff we got. Now I'll go out on limb here. This ain't about cloning woolly mammoths. This is about cloning humans. And so you think they're trying to do it effectively with woolly mammoths first? I think they're already doing the humans. We just don't know about it because of the ethical issues it brings up. Yeah, I've always said that if the moment they tell you they can clone humans, the person telling you's probably a clone. But time they tell us. Oh, I know as if some of my DNA material is in that permafrost tunnel. And with instructions, if [058:04] down the road somebody in the family wants to bring the old man back I'm your huckleberry. Well, you know they're doing it right now with human pets. Yeah with people's pets You can get your cat cloned you can get your dog cloned get your horse clone. Yeah race horses dolly sheep Yeah, I think dolly was the first one. Yeah, well there was a group called the Second Coming Project. So while back where they were trying to use DNA material from the shroud of turn to clone Jesus. Jesus, age Christ? That guy. I think though the shroud of turn has been proven to be fraudulent and that it's I believe it's only 500 years old. So it's not really Jesus's image that was in the cloth and it looks fake. Have you ever seen the shroud of turn? I've seen pictures of it. [059:00] It's a little hokey. Yeah. Looks like with someone 500 years ago would make, look, I found Jesus is covering. This is what he died in. There it is right there. Yeah. That looks like a guy saw just outside the hotel last night. Yeah, that looks like, you know, when they find like the Virgin Mary and a fucking grilled cheese sandwich. You know? You know? Shroud of turn. Okay. Is a length of linen cloth that bears a faint image of the front and the back of a man has been venerated for centuries, especially by members of the Catholic Church, as the actual burial shroud used to wrap the body of Jesus of Nazareth after his crucifixion, and upon which Jesus' bodily image is miraculously imprinted, the human image on the shroud can be discerned more clearly in a black and white photograph, negative photographic, negative, [1:0:00] then in its natural sepia color and effect discovered in 1898 by Sakandopea who produced the first photographs of the shroud. This negative image is associated with the popular Catholic devotion to the holy face of Jesus. The shroud's authenticity as a holy relic has been disputed even within the Catholic church and radiocarbon dating has shown it to be medieval artifact with the main image created via prolonged differential exposure of a prepared fabric to bright sunlight. So the documented history of the shroud dates back to 1354 when it's exhibited and the new collegiate church of Leary, a village north of France, the shroud was denounced as a forgery by the Bishop of Troyes in 1389. It was acquired by the House of Savoy in 1453 and later deposited in a chapel in Chambray where it was damaged by [1:1:01] fire in 1532 and 1578. The Savids move the shroud to their new capital in turn, where it has remained ever since. So what was the years that they found it, yeah, it has scrolled down a little bit. In 1988, radio carbon dating by three different laboratories established a shroud's linen material was produced between the years 1260 and 1390 to a 95% confidence level. Defenders of the authenticity of the shroud have questioned those results usually on the basis of the samples tested might have been contaminated or taken from a repair of the original fabric. Hmm. Yeah. But imagine if that's how Jesus comes back. I mean, you know, the whole idea is that Jesus is eventually going to come back when the shit hit the fan. Like, okay, guys, I'll let you try it on your own forever, but now I'm back. I mean, what better time for Jesus to come back when they've figured out a way to [1:2:02] fucking make humans at a DNA. That would be a good time for Jesus to go go whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. Don't you guys have bigger problems? Our site is called Clone Fathers. And we haven't done a lot with it because it's emerging technology, let's say. But can you imagine raising your own clone? I imagine raising a little you. I'd have to put it in a bag and throw it over the, into the river. I would know what to teach it. Because I would want it if it was gonna be me. It would have to make all the fucking mistakes that I've made And I would try to tell it. Hey don't do that But you can't because it has to make those mistakes in order to really appreciate The negative consequences of those actions. Yeah, your folks were telling you don't do that and you did it anyway They weren't telling me shit which is why I did [1:3:02] How's the lock key kid you know, which is probably how I turned. I was a lock key kid, which is probably how I turned out the way I am. But the baby, if I had a baby me and I was raising, I wouldn't raise it that way. I'd bring it to the best schools. I'd take care, I'd give it hugs all the time. I'd give it all this love. It would have no motivation to be the kind of person that I am today who is motivated at least in part by neglect. Well, you've done quite well and congratulations on being the most widely watched podcasts on the face of this planet. If that's not reason for the aliens to land, I don't know what it is. No, you're bringing a lot of needed information to the world. You really are. Well, all I'm doing is going after what I'm curious about. That's all I'm doing. All I'm doing is approaching and engaging with things that I'm curious about. [1:4:02] That's it. This whole thing is run basically with three people and my iPhone, literally. I don't, there's no, no one's telling me who to have on or what to do. And you know that because how you and I book these podcasts, just you and me text messaging. Hey, what are you doing? Come on back. I loved it too. Let's do it. It's fun. And I think that's part of also the reason why it's successful, is that people know, even though this is on Spotify, and there's a massive corporation behind it that distributes it and all that, Spotify leaves me alone. At the end of the line, it's just me and Jamie. I mean, the real, the people that are making this podcast, the people that decide, I think Jamie and I have, we just have conversations. It's just me and him. Just talking, what do you think we should do? That's it. That's it. Kind of what Drew and I are like, we're just two guys in a truck. [1:5:00] Yeah. We leave the house in the morning and the phone rings. That's also why it's interesting. That's also why it it resonates with people Yeah, people don't like it like if you get your news from CNN Jesus Christ How many fucking people are behind that thing? How many executives and producers and how much Financial influence is involved and everything that gets on the air how much Incentive to the people that have that are saying those things, how are they being pushed, how are they being motivated by progressing their careers along the same path? What lines are they not willing to cross, what toes they not wanna step on, what narratives are they pushing? You don't trust it. There's just too much nonsense. And also the way they talk, like the way those old timing, though they had things to worry about more than just a cave man. Like that's phony talk, right? That's the modern phony talk is the phony talk of the people that are the broadcasters on MSNBC. That's modern phony talk. [1:6:01] People don't like that. They doesn't feel right to them. They like when they talk to a guy like you, it's like, look at I found it, fucking sprayed water at the permafrost. Like, like I found this. I know this is the guy who actually found it. I don't have to deal with an institution. I'm not dealing with a museum. I'm not dealing with the university. I'm not dealing with a board of investors're dealing with one guy. That's what people like. Because the only thing that resonates with a human being that's listening to this on the other end. And I think what resonates with people about our bone yard is that it's real time. This shit's going on real time. Real time. I'm not hiding anything. I'm not going, well, that bone there is only 190 years old, so I better put it away so nobody knows. Right, right, exactly. When we found that, I'm going holy shit. Yeah. It's in the bone zone, man. Yeah. This is ice age shit. That's what we thought. And then, boom, no, it's 190 years old, okay. Now we got a real problem. Yeah. Now it's even more interesting. It is. Yeah. Yeah, and like I said, we don't sell them We what what how could you put a price on that right? [1:7:07] Could you could you I mean is a million dollars for a saber-to-tiger skull, you know How much is it I mean how many Millions and millions and millions of dollars are all the bones such as the AM&H eyes Yeah How many? How many I mean if you put them up for auction? Hundreds of millions. Oh, yeah Lot of money. Yeah meanwhile. It's just on your Instagram. Yeah, by the way that bone jurors. This is mine. Yeah, thank you I love it. I told you I was gonna fix it shit. Oh, thank you You got a spitzer bone.. That's pretty dope I love it that it's actually the bone you see here folks where the chunk has been sought off That's what I've been dated. Yeah, that's what I took I I was a little aggressive on that because I want to make sure they had enough material I wonder what What kind of saw they had back then 200 years ago? [1:8:03] It could have been a whip sock. I Who knows? It could have been a little, little handheld. It's just so fascinating to think back to 200 years ago the actual human that saw through that. And then as it goes through time, frozen into the ground, pushed out with water, found by you, cut and sent to get DNA tested and carbon dated and then it comes back to here. Boom! Where it belongs. It seems like it belongs here. It does belong here. It's right here. Forever. You put your pens in there. That's not a bad idea. No. I mean they had pens back in it. With feathers. Maybe good. Actually, they wrote a constitution with that shit. The tap is gone. That sucker. There you go. We have some that aren't empty of the marrow, but we only sampled one so far. We might have to sample one or two more. How many things have you carbon dated? [1:9:05] That's the only one I've ever... Of the bones. Of the 300,000 we found that's the only one I ever carbon dated. And we've had maybe ten others carbon dated by other people. And what is the oldest one that you found? 40,000. That's off the most latest one. It probably goes back farther than that, but 50,000 is about as reliable as you can get on carbon-14. And what animal is it that was 40,000 years old? William Hammath, those mammoth ivory. So it went from 40,000 to our next oldest was 22,000. There's a lot of thousands in between them what happened then yeah Where the people right Well, you have found evidence of human beings right what's that one bone that has a human face carved into it that you've Yeah, that one that one there [1:010:02] is Was found on a tailing pile that looks a lot like the shroud of turn by the way. Yeah, doesn't that? That's a paleontologist told us that that was natural. That's the Virgin Mary and the grilled cheese sandwich. What? Paleontologist told you that's natural natural and I look at what come cut the shit cheeks nose mouth eyes Cheeks, nose, mouth, eyes. And I posted that, Joe, and about half the comments were Jesus Christ learned how to take a picture, would you? Yeah, right. The only thing in focus is you're better, you're pick up. That's true, but that's the problem with iPhones, right? Or any kind of phone. Yeah, I mean, come on, guys. Yeah. I'm a boner. Yeah, that does not look even remotely natural. That looks absolutely like a face that was carved into a bone. Why would they say that that's natural? That's so silly. It is. It's so silly to say that because it just makes you look stupid. Because that might be natural under the craziest of circumstances. [1:011:01] It might be natural that a symmetrical face with eyelids and eyebrows and cheeks and a nose and a mouth and I mean everything about it is carved. It almost looks like that shrouded stupid. Yeah, come on. Come on. So stupid. Has that been carbonated? No, no. You see what I did to the one I gave you? Mm-hmm. A lot of people go, you need to carbonate all your fossils. Okay, that 400 bucks a pop and I got 300,000. That's 1.2 million. Yes, this is so. I'm sorry, 120 million, you want to be spent? Well also with that, maybe it's an old bone that someone carved thousands of years later. Could be. It was on top of a tail and by one-a-thbone yard. Yeah. We have gravel and gravel pits and mines everywhere. [1:012:02] How could paleontologists with straight face hood? That's natural i mean it might be under the craziest of circumstances it might be natural but the uh... if you had a bet if you had a bet everything had i'm going to put it on red or put it on black you know i'm putting it on someone had a fucking stone or a knife or whatever it was and they carved that face. That looks carved as fuck. It looks like it to me. Yeah. I think it looks it to 99.9% of the population other than people with a vested interest in it being natural. Yeah. Yeah, for what reason? Just to push a narrative? Like why would you say that that's natural? No, I have with my friends at AM&H, they said with witnesses, unfortunately for them, two of the uppity ups there said the reason they don't want to give the bones back to me is they think I'm going to sell them. [1:013:07] Now let's think about that. That's so stupid. You have a hundred times more than that. Just sit in a fucking warehouse that you've never sold. And I met with the University of Alaska State Senate recently, Drew and I met with them. And we said, we had this deal lined out 22 years ago. They were supposed to return everything in the basement to Alaska. We agreed to it. I funded it. I put money in the account to make that happen. Time goes by while we can't because there's a possesses in the ceiling. Blah blah blah. It has to be abated. Okay, abated. Let me know when you're done. I'll come get them. Well, we got a site tracked with 15 years at the Boneyard 16 years. I said, no, I'm better at the sun finish business. I need to go get those. In the meantime, they said, fuck this guy. Yeah. Fuck this dirt tramp. We're gonna keep him. He's just gonna sell him. How crazy. Let's show the images of what you have that you have in Seoul just so people understand how silly that is because you have photographs on the Instagram that show massive amounts of tusks and bones and that's just one day right there. [1:014:17] That's just warehouses. What is that the cave drawings? What is that scroll back up? That art? The one in the middle? A little right above the guy with a good touch. That was something that I saw online after I came out and I said that we domesticated the Willie Mammoth. Somebody sent me that picture. That's a guy on top of a mammoth. Yeah, a guy on top of a mammoth. Whoa. And you know how your kids, you got a golden retriever. Uh huh. You know, your kids take a brush and that dog just lays there and they comb the hair out of it. Yeah. Why wouldn't we do that with the Willie Mammoth? Well, listen, we know people write elephants. I wrote an elephant in Thailand. You can ride elephants. I domesticate them if you treat them right they'll let you ride them [1:015:07] Yeah, the Fossilized creature the mummy. Yeah, what is that scroll down a little bit Jamie down? Is it up there? No, you had it. It's it's a little down further buddy There it is there it is. Yeah, what is that little fella? Well, we don't know yet. We, uh, is it look like a rat or a shrew when, uh, Dick mall was up there doing his research for that film, you know, Dick mall. Yeah, he talked about him before. Yeah. Yeah. Just wait for you to say what an unfortunate name. Yeah, it is unfortunate He said keep your eyes out for art at ground squirrel And that has been a few years ago. Mm-hmm. This year we just found that this year We've never found one before and it was still frozen [1:016:07] So that looks like it could be a ground squirrel could be and I've got other pictures of it where you can actually see the ribs. I mean it's really unbelievable well preserved. I gave it to the museum up there. I said here you guys this is out of my league. You guys do the research and they took it and they're still studying it but it's they've had it since July. Mm. Scroll back up a little, Jamie. A little down, a little down, a little down. What is that to the right? That's a mammoth tooth that my buddy that carved those pipes. Oh, he carved that into the mammoth tooth. Yeah, wow. A couple of faces. By the way, this is a good time for me to give you something that I got from him. Oh. You like it. Okay. What was that? That's a pipe. I don't know why, what is this made out of? [1:017:00] You think it'll work? Yep. It's a new sick a Newsick yeah, what's that mean Jamie? What's a new sick? Yeah, that one got a heavyweight champ oh oh S.I.K. Oh O S.I.K. Oh, it's a dick Well, I can't believe Joe Rome put a walrus dick in his mouth Yeah, we have a what do we have to go. I've got another room somewhere. Yeah, we have a... What do we have another waller's dick? Fossilized waller's bone. Yeah, where it is. Anyway, that's... So, there's a waller's dick. Yeah, well, not a big one. No. There's a broken Sometimes. Yeah. You never know what happens. Ooth. Yeah. Wow. They, uh, anyways, he carved. He carved that up. And I said, I'm, let me give it to Joe. It's a good conversation starter. Yeah. What are they called again? [1:018:00] There's a word for those bones other than oosic. There's a word for those bones other than usic. There's a word for fossilized. I forget what the word is. Steve Rinaldo told to me when he gave it to me. Yeah, it's right. Backulum. That's the tactical term. How do you remove a raccoon backulum? So I just read. How do you remove a raccoon backulum? Is that what I just read? Yeah, how do you remove it? It's very good. From where? Raccoons. Yeah. Carefully? I guess. There's a little bag for it. Thank you very much. Yes, sir. Pretty cool. Yeah. But we just spent doing what we did when we saw you last time. Just continuing. I told you that, hey, man, I don't have a whole new to report on all the new bones we found because we're finding so many different kinds of things we've never found before. But when we moved the whole operation down to [1:019:01] where we started about a new pump, started up that left limit, we're starting to find all kinds of shit. We're just trying to find, yeah, that's new. That's what's still in the basement. That's just nuts. The amount of stuff you have is just absolutely nuts. You know, when that guy wasn't looking, I grabbed a sample of that, as best as containing material over the lights are. are. This is in the AMNH. This is all your stuff that they think you're going to sell if you get it out of there. It was just hilarious. You know what's funny about that is, so what is my stuff? Right. It came off patented ground. I can sell it if I want to. Yeah. But I don't need to and I don't want to. I want to study it. I want to find out what happened. Why did all the animal score extinct? Right. The 65% of the megafauna at the same time. Right. Something big going on. Something big. And Pat Druckermillter says the secrets are in the bones. They have diagnostic tools now that can tell what the animal was eating, how many times it had sex, how far it traveled, [1:020:02] how long it lived, things that we don't even know what the questions are yet We just need the puzzle pieces back so I can be studied What really fascinates me is the skull on your t-shirt what skull the one your t-shirt that one yeah Find in some of those there the problem of finding some of those there though that would change everything in terms of like who goes and who could look at it right. You want another one? Can you fill me up? Sure. I can. We could talk deeper. Right. That's the problem. I think you call them the dude. Yeah. The dude. Yeah. The problem with the dude is, then it becomes archaeology, right? Yeah, dudes are archaeology. Yeah, and dudes mean that the university is common. Or whoever, government is common. Hypothetically, let's say you found a dude. Right. [1:021:02] And hypothetically, let's say the university did come look at it. And hypothetically they said, okay, you need to go turn yourself into the troopers. Why? Because those are human remains. So if somebody did find that, they'd have to go to the troopers and fill out a report. That's it, we found that body. You'd have to say, the troopers and fill out a report. That's it we found that body. You'd have to say we found human remains. Right. And let's say the person taking the report said, let me get a homicide team out here to talk to you. And you hypothetically said that bone is older than everybody in this building. All their ancestors combined and going back 100 generations. Well, we're not interested in that then. Get out of here. Well, get out of here after the reports written, hypothetically. Hypothetically. Yeah. So everything was okay. [1:022:00] So if hypothetically, completely hypothetically, if they found a dude that's 40,000 years old, then shake its wild. Sure good. Because if they found this dude in the same level of permafrost, where you're finding woolly mammoths. Hypothetically, let's say it was 10 feet away from a woolly mammoth skull. Hypothetically. Hypothetically, let's say it was 10 feet away from a Willy Man with skull. Hypothetically. Hypothetically. Yeah. Wow. That would be very interesting. It would be very interesting. That's a really interesting hypothesis. Also, is it anatomically modern? Is it a denisovan? You know, those, the type of humans that they found in that cave in Russia, completely different branch of humans that they found in that cave in Russia, completely different branch of humans. I don't know about those, I haven't heard about those. Yeah, they found, I don't know how much they found, but they found bones that are from, I believe this was like, I want to say 2007ish, 2017, somewhere around there. [1:023:07] Real recently, they found this new branch of the human tree that's called the Denysovun. When did they find that, Jamie? They're fine, James can look it up, but they were in Russia. There's many versions of human beings that coexisted apparently and Homo sapiens were the article from 2019 says they recreated what it looks like from a pinky bone they found. First portrait of extinct Denysovan human relative created from pinky bone DNA. Wow. Denysovan girls shown with dark hair, piercing eyes and a broad face. So it was a completely different kind of human being. Not in the end of tall, not a homo sapien. Something different. More than 100,000 years ago modern humans in Eurasia lived alongside Neanderthals and Denisovans, two other hominins that have since gone extinct. [1:024:02] While much is known about Neanderthals and how they live, Denisovans have remained enigmatic because only a handful of bone fragments from the ancient group have ever been found. But now they have a good idea of how Denisovans look in a study published Thursday in the journal Cell, scientists took DNA from a Denisovan pinkie bone found in a Siberian cave in 2008, there it is, and used it to predict Denisovan anatomical features. I wonder how they did that. Jesus Christ. Yeah, click that. 56 features that differ. What? Yeah. Oh that's all it is. Wow. The little tiny piece of bone. How much denosovent bones have they found? The graded DNA molecules from a group of human relatives who went extinct tens of thousands of years ago have been reassembled using a new technique yielding a genetic code for the mysterious denosovents that meets the standard for modern humans. [1:025:03] The findings are based on samples drawn from 40 milligrams of ground up bone from Siberian girls' finger. They can confirm what's, imagine that. They can tell it's a girl too. They confirm what scientists saw in them. How do they know what gender it is? Why they misgendering this poor Denisovan. Scientists saw a much less detailed genetic sequence. They produced a couple years ago and addressed some of the deep questions surrounding the Denisovans, but they also raised a few new questions, including a basic one, just how old was the sample that they analyzed? Wow. Is that all they found? How much Google, how much, how many bone fragments have they found from Denisovans? Thank God for scientists. They got a job of them. They got a job of them. of they found from Denisovans. Thank God for scientists. That's all the, they got a job on. Bam, job on. Oh wow. Half a job on. Oh wow. Intubate, wow. So isn't they made it with the enders also? Wow, a hybrid bone reveals in life science. [1:026:03] Click on that. Well here was that, Would they figure that out? That was 2022. Wow. So they're finding, so from 2008 to 2022, they're finding more and more of these bones. Closest, no extinct relatives of modern humans with a thick brow, Neanderthals and the mysterious Denisovans. A bone fragment for Siberian caves, perhaps of a teenage girl girls revealed the first known hybrid of these groups. A new study concludes, defining confirms inbreeding that it had only been hinted at in earlier genetic studies. Very amazing. Now, a number of now extinct human lineages not only lived alongside modern humans, but even interbred with them, leaving traces of their DNA in the modern human genome. These lineages included the stocky Neanderthals as well as the anachmatic Denisovans, known from only a few teeth and bones, unearthed in the Denisova cave in the Al-Tai Mountains. Click on that now, Extincumian Lignages. [1:027:01] How many they have? Wow, they got a tooth. Wow. The scientists have just completed the sequencing, the entire genome of species go scroll up. It was above it. Of species of archaic humans called denisovent, the fossils consist of a finger of archaic humans called Denisov and the fossils are consistent with a finger bone and two mowers from the 16th lineage Hmm scientists don't know the precise age of the material found though the estimate it ranges between 30,000 and 80,000 years of age Wow Somewhere yeah somewhere along the same lines as the oldest shit you found in the Boneyard. Yep. Woo! Wild stuff. We have no idea the range that we find. Yeah. Because we've only sampled a few of them. Well that's what's really crazy is that the sheer amount of material that you guys have excavated is just a drop in the bucket of [1:028:07] what's still there. You talked about the carbon? Yeah. We don't know how far it goes. We just know it's there. Yeah. We know that in front of it down stream of it's decomposed bedrock and decomposed bedrock in that area has gold in it but it's very hard to recover the gold from because it's a clay and you can't wash it very good but underneath that's another layer of bedrock. Did something come in hot? Something came in hot. Something caused a lot of water to melt real quick. See levels rose 400 feet worldwide. 400 feet. We came from Jacksonville yesterday. The east coast from Jacksonville was 85 miles farther east. That was all dry land. [1:029:02] Holy shit. And now it's worldwide this happened. Yeah. Talk about climate change. You know climate change is climate change. It's always gonna be a climate changing. Right. And I'm comfortable with that, you know We say we're melting the climate. We're melting the world. We're doing all this shit. Don't worry about the world World take care of itself You know, we don't have to be assholes. We don't have to pollute it But we should take some care of it But now let's go let's go electric vehicles all the time well people are saying that don't realize how much more copper has to be mined How much more lead has to be mined? You're using fossil fuels for all that. You're not going to get a D11 dose or on batteries. You just not. You got to use fossil fuels. Yeah. Also, the thing about the Soul Climate Change argument is, climate's never been stable. [1:030:01] It's not like before humans, it was ever like flat. Like you could predict it every year. Oh September 13th it's going to be 75 degrees. Nope. It's never been. Never ever. It's always been up and down. It's a constant, constant changing environment on this planet. It exists within a range where biological life can survive but have you ever seen those structures that they found under the ocean outside of Japan? No. Fascinating. It's called the Yonaguni. And they've tried to say that these things are natural, naturally occurring. But Graham Hancock has dived with them and many other people as well. And there's right angles and there's portals. So there's all this stuff down there that just doesn't look at all like something that's natural. It looks like some ancient structure that was under the ocean a long long long time ago. Look at that. There's corridors and steps. They have no idea who made it. [1:031:02] Why? It's just this immense structure that's underneath the ocean. You know how deep that is? I'm sure they do. It's 165 known structure of unknown origin, 85 feet underwater, the southern coast of a right Ryukyu Islands in Japan. They don't fit right in with the 400 foot. Yeah, yeah, fit right in with it. Yeah. I mean Look at that thing. Yeah, it's insane. But what's really insane is the pathways and the corridors and these things that just don't seem to The right angles that exist everywhere that just absolutely don't seem to be natural. They seem to be carved. It seems to be something that someone made a long fucking time ago. Graham Hancock is absolutely convinced. He's like, when you swim down there with those things, there's no way. [1:032:01] There's just no way. There's no way that that wasn't created. Wild stuff. And who knows what it really looked like? How many thousands of years ago before the water erosion, before whatever the impact did to it? You know, you know, if you nowadays people want to get something done. They always put in the effects on the climate will benefit us from this study. If we do this study, it's good for climate change. I know the guys that are cloning the woolly mammoths are saying they wanna bring them back and put them inside Beary to keep the permafrost from melting and the methane gas from escaping. Yeah. But for some reason, I have an idea that as soon as they get one out there on the step, somebody's going to come along and go, hmm, I'm going to shoot me a woolly mammal. Especially if you put them in Russia. [1:033:02] Yeah. No, we've... I think you got a steady population of them in Russia, someone for sure is going to say, do you want to hunt the Holy Mammoth? We can make this happen. We can make it happen. How much money do you have my friend? There's never enough. Never enough. No, I mean, we're involved in the fossilized ivory market a little bit because we find broken tusks and we make stuff out of it. And there's a very few American crafts people that use woolly mammoth ivory to manufacture stuff. And I know last time we talked about it, you're like, ah, it might be kind of, but that's what we do. Like I said, this is an adorable little hobby, my wife calls it. But when I go to pay 400 bucks for a carbon 14 sample, that means that's 100 gallons of fuel I didn't buy. So I kind of go like this. [1:034:01] Yeah, I just zoomed by the fuel because this little hobby pays for itself. You guys buy this and I'll buy fuel, put it in the pump and I'll go find more. And that they do do. And we'll just do that. And make real nice things out of it. And just a good time to give you this. She's got another gift. Oh yeah. My daughter. My daughter, Alora, choose wife out there. Alora longly. Last time I was here, I told her, told you, she's sex fifth avenue. She's beyond sex fifth avenue. She wanted to give you that. Hmm. Oh, it's appending. On a silver chain. Oh, wow. She didn't know if you wear a jewelry or not, but I said I'll give it to him. How were that? How old is that? It's old old. So I'm going to go around this fat head. [1:035:01] And she also said, you know, Joe gets all the stuff. I want to give something to his wife. So this is for your wife. Oh, yeah. Ilora made that too. Oh, cool. Another one. Yep. Wow. Little gold. There's little tiny gold in the top. And how old do you think this is? 30, 40,000 years. Shhh. So. Imagine if you could follow the timeline of the animal roaming around. Yeah. No, she's to being converted into jewelry. Like I said, last time she was sex fifth avenue, but she's putting those guys to shame with this stuff she finds the ivory she finds the gold she makes this stuff she gave us from last time here oh that's a nice one yeah no one's gonna high off this yet no I bet that other one I said and they've received the see the match either I know I wouldn't do that to it. But I'm sure you guys do sell them. [1:036:06] I'm sure there's people out there. Actually, I'm on into space, smoking weed off of a mammoth bone. If I was an astronaut, I wouldn't. Even if I didn't do it in the space, I'd do it. But now, the other thing is, I had a guy call me and goes, I love that Joe Rogan podcast. I want to make him some pistol grips for a 1911. I said, I don't know if he's got a 1911. He says, well, give me his address and I'll mail it to him. I said, I ain't going to do that. I'm going to see him if you want me to give him to him. I'll give him to him. But I'm not giving out his address He says okay, so he sent me these but Berkett customs is hit the name of his Operation, check that out. Yeah, check him out. Wow [1:037:05] Wow, look at that. Only mammoth. There's a little wrench in there for you to attach it to your neck. I see. That's pretty bad ass. It is bad ass. Look at that. Oh wow, so he sells them. Mammoth Ivory full size 1911 grips. Wow, that's beautiful It's just crazy that there's so much of this stuff. Yeah, that you can make stuff off of it It all starts with a broken for us a broken tooth or broken piece ivory. Wow Yeah Yeah, nice and they're very functional. Yeah. No, I'd imagine and and beautiful Now this is yeah more stuff. Jesus Christ. This is this is for your kids. Okay Just add sandpaper just add sandpaper. Yeah, they're little ivory shards [1:038:01] You give them a piece of sandpaper and he sand it to a mirror finish. That's what you make stuff like what we make out of. That's a raw, those are raw shards. Okay. And I'll give it to him. Yeah. And last but not least for you and Jamie. Another one? You just get one of these little packets. Okay. Now I know that he plays golf. Uh-huh. I don't know if you play golf. No, I don't. I'm scared of golf. Well, you don't have to steal the ball marker from you, but I made you a ball marker. Awesome. Thank you. You're welcome. And Joe too. And there's a guitar pick in each one of those two. I don't know. Yeah, I've got the guitar picks for Gary Clark Jr. Oh nice. Ball marker and guitar pick pick All right, Jamie Play golf no you to mark your ball. I don't have the time. No, we could try. I'm scared of the golf I've never played a game of golf golf absorbs your time. It scares me to play nine holes Yeah, the nine holes leads to me being a fucking golf junkie like Tony Hinchcliffe and you and Ron white out there playing [1:039:03] I imagine the force them that be. It would be good time. I said I'll go with you guys and get, it's all up to you. It's all up to you. It's all up to you. It's all up to you. It's all up to you. It's all up to you. It's all up to you. It's all up to you. It Amazing that you could there's so much stuff that you could make things make jewelry and make pistol grips and Like I told you drew an iron We were the dollar general. I told you that last year. Mm-hmm But I think we got a meeting with family dollar coming up next week. Yeah. No, I'm just bullshit. Yeah We we just enjoy working with it. It's a really cool material to work with. Because you take a piece, Joe, and you look at it and go, what can I make out of that? It might take a week or two to figure it out. I have a pool queue that has a mammoth ivory joint in a mammoth ivory butt cap [1:040:00] that my friend Eric Crisp of sugar tree cues makes. Oh, cool. Yeah, he's from Alaska and he has mammoth ivory that he puts inside pool cues. It's beautiful. It's got like a very... See if you can Google Sugar Tree Cue with mammoth ivory joint, because I know he's made a few of these. You know, he doesn't have a lot of the material, but he's made a few of these. You know, he doesn't have a lot of the material, but he's made a few and absolutely beautiful. We've had people contact us about that. And I'm going, hey man, I don't know how to do it. You know, I can't make pool cues stuff. But I have the raw ivory if you need a little bit to work, do it, you know, you can do it. Well, I'll connect you with him. All right. Yeah, he's the man He makes some of the most beautiful pool cues in the world and he's an interesting guy kind of like yourself He doesn't give a fuck. He makes him what he wants to yeah, sells him if he wants to yeah I can't give him money. He just keeps giving me cues and I've never never been able to give him money from him I'm like you got it. You you gotta take some money. You don't take any money. [1:041:05] No, I don't want to. He'll sell them to other people. Yeah. But every found one that has a mammoth ivory. People talking about it. There's no images. I don't think, I don't know if this is actually his or the other. Yeah, that's his. That's 100% his. I can tell by the ring work This mammoth ivory joint, that might actually be my cue, because it looks real similar. So he puts that mammoth ivory, scroll down a little bit, Jamie. Scroll down that one right there in the middle. Yeah, click on that. Yeah. I think it's the same. That's exactly what it looks like. Wow. It's not clear on the white sound. It's not clear. Ah, it's probably someone with a fucking Android phone or some shit from the early 2000s. Yeah, that's what it looks like. It's beautiful. Yeah, that's what you start with, those little shards. That's just, it's just so crazy that there's so much of that stuff that you could actually make things out of it. Yeah, no, it's, something happened. [1:042:00] It's not big time. Something big time happened. Yeah. Nobody knows. But it's crazy that this particular subject It's not big time. Something big time happened. Yeah. Nobody knows. But it's crazy that this particular subject of the mass extinction event, which is related to Atlantis, which is related to the melting of the polar ice caps that led to some sort of a mass extinction event in North America that all this stuff is connected and one of the big pieces of the puzzle is your property. And maybe one of the biggest pieces that's ever been discovered. I think so and if I can get the other stuff back, well you saw the video, all that stuff probably got dumped in the East River. You know the, well it's a mammoth leg bone but it's broken at the end and we don't want it. It's not museum quality. Throw it away. Right. And so a lot of that stake, they say in a report, mistakes made in the field, those are your people. Those are your employees that made those mistakes. Don't blame it on my company guys. Is the mistakes made in the field meaning that the bones got damaged? [1:043:02] Means they didn't document where they came from. Oh, I see. Yeah. And the paleontologists, if they don't know exactly what level of soil where it came from, they want all that stuff. And if they don't know that stuff, it's got no scientific value, none. And so the stuff they sent back, none of it, maybe a couple of pieces have scientific value. They weren't supposed to take that. And they know it. And that's why they don't want to return it because it's quite valuable. It's just so crazy. You saw that film, 12 tons in one year. Yeah. They did it for, 1928 to 1958. That's nuts. That's a lot of tasks. When they talk about hundreds and hundreds of them shipped there, I've seen them. I mean, I saw them. And when I met with the head guy, I said, I want them all back. I want all the bones back. And he said to himself, who is this fucking guy? Get him out of my office. Next time he shows up, make him stand in the rain. Which [1:044:03] we did. It's not like I'm afraid of getting wet or dirty. Jamie, see if you could find the photo from the Boneyard Instagram page that shows that carbon layer. I've been looking for it the whole time. I don't know why I can't find it. I kinda know what it looks like, but it's not as good as. Do you know how far back it is? I'll find it real quick. Do you know, is it an old, like how, when did you post it? Oh, it's been a few years. Okay, so it's probably, you post quite a bit, so it's probably pretty far back in there. I've reposted it a few times. That's the big piece. What's up, Jeff? I found a few that looked like it. I just couldn't tell the description wasn't saying like this was the the carbon layer or anything. How far back was the ones that you found? I'm back to right when he was on the far first time. So I'm back in the bone rush. How thick is that carbon layer? You know, the picture you pulled up with the guy riding the mammoth. There's a picture right next to it, show on it. [1:045:02] Oh, okay. You'll find that. Oh, there it is. Okay. And there's the picture of the guy. Right. So it's right next to it. Not that. Look right above right there. Right here. No, right there. Yep. That, that, that's the carbon layer. So here it is. It says something came in hot. This burnt gravel laying on top of a burnt bedrock, 80 feet below the surface, topography at the bone yard. Tell me it's not natural. It's the most natural thing in the solar system. Of course it's natural, right? That's something came in, boom, and burned everything. And it's 80 feet down in the permafrost. I wonder if they did a core sample, what they would find. Imagine if they did that and they said 11,800 years. I bet I'd be willing to bet, but that's it. [1:046:02] It totally makes sense. The short face bear there, the job only you just saw. No, those were bad ass. They're extinct. Oh yeah, I mean that animal was, they think that might have been one of the animals that kept people from crossing that bearing land bridge. That it was just such a fucking monstrous predator, far bigger than a polar bear. And then immense immense predator, like the biggest bear ever, that existed and went extinct along with all the other megafauna, 65% of the North American megafauna, instantaneously existed. That's one of the reasons why we have weird stuff here, like the Pronghorn antelope. Like why are they so fast? Well they were so fast because there was an North American cheetah that lived here. Wow, which was faster. Yeah, so we had an North American lion that lived here back then that was bigger than the African lion. And we have those up North, we found one. [1:047:01] Really? We found more than one, American lion. Really? Oh yeah, the skull that you see sticking out of the muck bench. That's what Dick Moll calls the American Lion. Wow. And when we were going through just some bones I had on a palette and he goes, oh, do you know what that is? I said, no, I said, Lion, scapula. I told him, we got a bunch of those. Really? Yeah. We do. We got a bunch of those. Really? Yeah, and we do it, we got a bunch of those. So was there supposed to be a North American line as far as the... The school I have, they say is the best one of the four that have been found. Wow. And some guy off me, 85 grand forward and I said, ah, there's a door. That's not enough, fella. And we don't sell this shit. Yeah, also, like that's a historically important piece of bone. That's a very important piece. And to think that, again, you have just, that's a drop in the bucket. I shouldn't say a drop in the bucket. That's a drop in the fucking Olympic swimming pool [1:048:02] that you have up there. Yeah. in the fucking Olympic swimming pool that you have up there. Yep. I mean, if someone made a full scale excavation, it just really went all in to see what the fuck is going on up here. God, that would be amazing. The problem is that it scares them. It's the scary sight. Because we're not talking about dirt and rocks. We're talking about melting ice. You get over next to that muck bench and you look up 60 feet and up there's trees and there's not boulders but big chunks of ice. They can fall. And so we're real careful with our guys. Don't go under there. Oh, if you had any kind of collapses before Oh, yeah, you know, we had a piece of ice we knew was gonna collapse and we kept working on it to make it happen quicker By undercutting it with a giant and it was when you say the giant you're talking about the water sprayer [1:049:01] Right. Yeah, it collapsed two days after we shut the pumps off. We knew it was gonna go. We said okay stay out. That was five stories tall. The piece that broke off. Wow. It took us a whole summer to get rid of it with the giant. But within that thing was about half a dozen tusks. Wow. So we just sprayed it and sprayed it and come back and get it tusk and we restored the tusks if they're not broken we fix them We got a bunch of them restored a bunch It's just so not so this is one area that has so much Not five acres either 2.1 Albert I mean 2.1 is like a really big backyard for a nice suburban house. And I think I mentioned to you, it goes all the way, it goes downstream, where there is a creek that's a mile long. And that creek is going to, if we ever get to it, someday somebody will get to it. [1:050:03] Maybe Drew and Alora and my other kids might get to it. They're my grandkids. So here's the area. And this is showing the giant in action. Is it spraying? Yep. And so do you just spray for a specific amount of time and then just start looking at what's been uncovered? Or do you look, look at it while it's doing it? Sometimes we'll hang out if we see something coming up. We'll aim it. But a lot of times that one's an automatic, giant, it'll sweep by itself. You turn the pumps on and it just goes back and forth. And then we come back and just start looking around. Wow. It's like looking for Easter eggs. It's not, I mean, it seems to me insane that no one's contacted you, that doesn't want to do some sort of collaboration with you and do some massively funded expedition. It's going to take massive amounts of money and I'm not opposed to having them do that. But generally speaking what I get is some guy goes, hey I'd like a man like that. [1:051:00] What's that Jamie? It's ice right? It's ice. Just like, what is it? It doesn't say what it is. This is, this is, this is. This is, see a lot of ice age cool stuff emerged from the frozen block. We, this, because we don't know what that is. Or it's just shiny black, we can't tell. Huh. Reflecting the sky. But the stuff, the little things on the side, the microbes. We've spent a lot of time looking for tips, spear tips. Have you found them? Yeah. Yeah. We find one, uh, mammoth hip bone with the spear tips still sticking in it. Really? And I've got that one posted, little video thing. Ooh, find that, Jamie. That's wild. Yeah, it is wild. Now, I'll hold it that. Gotta be tens of thousands. There's gotta be some people in there. You might have like a full Denisovan in there. I found things that I thought. Oh, there's a tip. Yeah, now they're gonna tell me that tip [1:052:02] went through the fur and hide and hit a vital organ in a mammoth. But if you found one in a mammoth hip bone, it has to, you don't think that they- We found a tip, we found a tip. In a mammoth hip bone. But don't you think that they hunted those things? Especially if they're above them. Like if you were above them on a cliff or something like that, you'd sneak up and throw spears down. They could have, I don't know. And they did it with elephants. I know people hunt elephants with bow and arrows. They did this video of people hunting them with traditional bows, like long bows. Yeah. From like the 1900s, early 1900s. But remember, the step had no trees, no wood, saw grasslands. And so the browsers, the William Ameth, the Caribou, the stepbiscons, they had grass. And the mousse came in later, the browsers. And there was no wood to fashion a spear out of really to speak of. It was all grass. [1:053:13] So I'm thinking they kind of might have moved through a little bit, got a little bit farther south. Maybe they went somewhere else that was on the limits that was emerging into uplands. So maybe some nomadic people traveled with spears they'd gotten from somewhere else and they made it to your place because that's where the mammoths were. The carnivores had a field day up there because it's where it faced bears, cave lions. They had all kinds of stuff to eat. Cave bears. Oh yeah. Yeah. They were there eating good and that was for thousands of years they did that. They got along you know that balance is there. We have them right now with wolves. You know you have a year with a lot of wolves and then you have a you know they kill everything on the moose and you'll have a few years with the wolves disappear because there's nothing to eat. [1:054:05] And then the wolves come back. And then the wolves come back. I mean, it's just time. Constance cycle. Constance cycle. I've got a creek now with two packs of wolves on it. Then when I invited you to go hunt on, there won't be a moose left on that creek. I don't think this summer. Probably not. Yeah. I'll put you on a different creek. They're a fascinating animal. They just showed yesterday the reintroduced them to Colorado recently. Good luck guys. I don't think the people in Colorado understand what just happened. No, they've no idea. They did fucking city dwellers. I think wolves are amazing. They're so beautiful. Why'd they go extinct? I think wolves are amazing. They're so beautiful. Why'd they go extinct? I had that video of a little young wolf that's right by our road. We're driving down to look at a cut. And we just sit there looking at us like, hey, what's up? [1:055:00] Then he's howling and you can hear another one in the background howling. They show up at the bone yard going. Time to eat. All right. Oh yeah, they smell that rotten flesh and... I'm sure, right? Oh, that stench of that is, you can't avoid it. How bad is it smell when you start excavating? It's the kind of stench that you'll never forget, but you'll never smell it anywhere else. Mm. So the invite is still open for you to come up there. I need to make it my way out there. If I do I want to bring Randall. Do it. Yeah. But here's the other caveat to that. Okay. We build our new building. We put two 1885 bronzewood pool tables in there. Got them restored. I saw. And I told Drew I said you're welcome to play on it but I ain't playing till Joe Rogan plays on it with me. As soon as you cue it up and rack it I'm gonna run out the door and leave. Okay I'm not a very good pool player. Well that's why I'm scared of golf because I'm a good pool player. I know you're a good pool player. But [1:056:03] that's what it takes to play good pool. It's just massive amounts of time that I don't have. Yeah, that's practice. I already have one thing that sucks my time. And if I was living where you are, I probably my my time would be spent spraying spraying water. We're trying to figure out a way to do it while we don't have to be there. You know, put the auto giant up there. Did you get a bunch of people that reached out to you after the podcast, that want to volunteer to help? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I can't do it. Too many weirdos. Look, dude, you talking about you too? Yeah. It's me and Drew. Yeah. And when it's all hands on deck, when something is happening like the day, then it's all hands on deck, when something is happening like the day, then it's all hands on deck. That day we pulled out a whole wooly mammoth and a half. Wow. And one day. A whole wooly mammoth. And a half. And a half. And we got the other half the next day. Have you thought about putting that thing together? Oh yeah. [1:057:00] Yeah, we got it all. Like museum style. I don't love it. Peaceing it together. We'll put it together and put it in our building. How do they do that? They use like metal to connect the bones and... The ones, the museum I saw in the Yukon, they use a metal frame and they attach it somehow to that. But I've seen them, I've seen these woolly mammoth replicas that they have with the skeletons and you see the tusk going out and I'm looking There's nothing support in those tusk those are made out of foam You can't hold a 250 pound tusk in a skull without it just breaking you got to have something underneath it to support So those are replicas? Oh, yeah most of them are just all foam You got to have something underneath it to support. Oh, so those are replicas? Oh, yeah. Most of them are just all foam. Well, that's the thing about the dinosaurs, right? They'll have some pieces, and then the rest of it is just kind of bullshit. It's just what they know it looked like, and the dimensions that it would be based on the shape of whatever bones they do have. Yeah, yeah, and they, we have all the bones. We have all the bones. We have whole herds of those things. Wow. And just a matter that thing that we invented called time [1:058:08] Yeah, and my time's better spent doing collecting it than it is to try to put it together It's just amazing that there's this one spot in Alaska and it really makes you think how many spots are like that Somewhere else that just have not been explored Well, I told you last time that Guy Chuck says there's 10,000 of those dead animals on my property. Willie mammoth. 10,000. 10,000. That's the estimate. Yeah, he's the carver. And he's dealt more Willie mammoth bones and tuskling anybody. I know, probably in the world. It just makes you really want to imagine what the scene was like when it all went down. What the scene was like boom boom when they all just died all at once. [1:059:01] Yeah. And all at once might have been 500 years. Right. Might have been a thousand years. Right. But faster than they could, you know, adapt to it. Yeah. So. And you know, all the salt and all the shit that covers the ground there. That's leftover from the melting glaciers. The glaciers melted and the wind came in and blew all that stuff Mm-hmm positive itself on the gravels and that's why in gold money you got to strip that shit off To get down to the gravel on the bedrock Yeah, that's all covering it. Have you paid attention to any rental cross since work a little bit a little bit He thinks it all happened very quickly. I think he's right. Yeah, I think he's right too, but I think there's another one in there earlier I bet by about 20,000 years maybe. Completely makes sense. Yeah. I mean, if you go 20,000 years ago from us, I mean, look, we think about the pyramids and we think about Egypt and we really don't know when they made those. But Robert Schock, who's the guy who was the geologist from Boston University, [2:0:06] who did the work on the sphinx and the temple, the sphinx and found water erosion that indicates thousands of years of rainfall after they carved that thing. After they carved that area out, he's like, this is thousands of years of rainfall. And the last time there was like rainfall in the Nile Valley, it was more than 9,000 years ago. So you have 9,000 years ago, and then you have thousands of years before that. So now you're in that area. Now you're in 12,000 years ago, 13, 14, who knows? There's also speculation as to when these finks, which used to have the head of a lion before they carved it and made it an Egyptian head. And they think that because the head of this finks is much smaller than the rest of the body, it also has much less erosion. And then they go back to, okay, at what point in time was this thing pointed towards the [2:1:02] constellation Leo. Right. And now you're at 30,000 years ago. Yeah. And they think that might have been when these people had made this thing. And I've heard you talk about the pyramids and the engineering that went into it. How did you how do you move a block like that 500 miles? Yeah, insane. So so well, intricately cut you can't put a razor blade between the fifths. Yeah, amazing. Can't do that now. Well, 2,300,000 stones the way between like two and 80 tons perfectly placed. The true north, south, east, and west. They're aligned with constellations. You have these shafts that align to certain star patterns. And it's like, woo! What was going down in Egypt? I got a thinking on Musk has come back. He might have been there. Well, I bet there was millions of Elon Musk's back then. Who knows? I mean, I really firmly believe that we are sort of a reimagining of human civilization [2:2:04] and that human civilization, as it were were when they did construct the pyramids Was probably more advanced than we are today in a different way Yeah, and this is what Graham thinks is it Randall thinks a lot of these people think that whatever Technology they had whatever you know so far undiscovered technology We don't really know how they carved that technology. We don't really know how they carved that stuff. We don't know what methods they used. You know, because modern conventional thinking is that they only had copper. They didn't even have steel. So how the fuck are they doing that? There's also these drill marks that these cores that have been cord out that seem to indicate diamond drills, diamond bit drills, moving an insane rate to speed that have cord out sections of stone like who the fuck did that who how where why when Even if it really is 2500 BC. What the fuck did you use? [2:3:01] What did you use how did you do that? Yeah, it's probably not What the fuck did you use? What did you use? How'd you do that? It's probably not 2005 or 100 years ago, because that's just based on organic matter. It's also based on they find like little pieces of organic matter that they can carbonate that there's no real proof that that wasn't done, that they didn't sort of like resurface things or refix things or try to update things. There's also the hieroglyphs, which is really fascinating because the hieroglyphs, they accept the hieroglyphs up to a certain point and then when the hieroglyphs go back and they indicate kings that existed 30,000, 40,000 years ago, they'll go, oh, that's just myth. Like, says, oh, says, oh, says you because you've written books on this and you've taught lectures and been, you know, you've based your life work on this timeline. Is that why you think that old stuff is myth? Because you don't think the news, you don't think Ramsey's is myth. [2:4:00] You don't think the Tutankham and his myth. You don't think all those other things are myth. Why do you think it's myth? When it gets back 30, 40,000 years ago, I bet that's not myth. I bet whatever was going on back then, 30, 40,000 years ago. Those people were probably insanely advanced in a completely different direction than we have gone today. And I think that if you wiped us out And left a few nomadic tribes of people and they repopulated the earth over the next 20,000 years We'll probably figure out some completely new direction of technology You know, I think people get on a path They innovate on that path and then everybody sort of chips in on all the different inventions that have previously established and they make them better and they refine them and make new versions of them and make better stuff and then it keeps going and going and going and whatever direction some of our genius heads in and some there's probably some fucking insane geniuses 30 [2:5:01] 40,000 years ago that figured out some stuff that we haven't figured out yet, and they probably were more advanced in that direction than we are today. We can't even tell what happened in the case of that spits are there. What happened 200 years ago? Right. Who are those folks? Who the fuck did that? Right. And why? Well, do they think people were living there 200 years ago nobody thinks nothing about nothing because Fairbanks wasn't there Fairbanks wasn't discovered till 1902 So they have no idea eight or 12% of the carbon dating you know they they say that They spread out a lot of timeline mm-hmm 12% I think came in around 1600 late at 1600s for that Then it's under the 1700s or more than the early 1800s and then pretty soon they have a Okay, 95% certainty that's 190 years old or something like that [2:6:05] But we can't even tell certainty that's 190 years old or something like that. But we can't even tell why, who, what, where, when? Right. 200 years ago. Yeah. Give me 2000. Well, we got Jesus over there with the crowd. Right. Hmm. But some maybe 500 years ago said, I'm going to make some money on this. Right. I'm going to get me some tourism business. Now go 2000 years before that, and then 2000 years before that. Like we have no evidence. Yeah, the burning of the Library of Alexandria, all the records are destroyed. Then go 200,000 years before that. Might as well, really get going here. Well, that's it's really crazy is that they find older stuff in Egypt that's buried under newer construction. So they build temples on top of older temples and then as they excavate the sand they find different construction methods that seem to indicate different ages. They do things differently back then and as they get deeper the things seem [2:7:00] to be more sophisticated, more difficult to make. Yeah, look at Austin. Tell me that's not gonna happen here in 1500 years. Right. Or any city in the country. Yeah. You know, it's, but we're only here for like, yeah, maybe a hundred if we're lucky. If we're lucky. I'm thinking a hundred maybe not be that lucky. Maybe 80's better. But it depends. With modern science, I mean, they think that we're going to be able to live to be 150 and thrive. I'm going to get me a clone going. Yeah. Just download your brain into the clone. Imagine a 20-year-old John with the brain of you now. All spry and young. You know, if I could tell, Drew, Drew, I'm going to run on over the 966. I'm going to scam, run up the ladder and then I'm going to run that some bitch. But we translate it into that, Drew, I'm going to shuffle over to that machine [2:8:01] over there. Can you lift me up with the loader to get inside it? Right. You know, I had one shoulder out last year. I couldn't pull myself up a ladder. And I got a rotator cuff gone. Can I get you some stem cells? And just need a new me. Well, we just need... Gotta clone me. We also need to take care of the me that you got right now. Yeah. I'm gonna be around a while. How long you planning? Another 15, 20 years. That's it? Yeah. If you do, if you wanted to plan your life out, what would you want to happen with the bone yard over the next 15 to 20 years? What's ideal for you? Best case scenario. To get the bones, all the bones back first of all. Why are you so concerned with those bones when you have so many? Because they have so many more. So they have more there than you have where you are. They took, you got to remember there's 200 nozzles running. They took them all. They took [2:9:09] hundreds and hundreds of thousands of bones to New York City. Hundreds of thousands. I only got a couple hundred thousand. They took millions and they've got them all. They got them every one of them. And they've got them all they got them every one of them and the in the guy that was their collector Excuse me he was he was a Just a field hand on the Alaska railroad and they Hey, you want to collect bones for us? They're sure So he ended up when it was all said and done with a non-array doctorate from the University of Alaska, who was in on it, by the way, on this tri-partite agreement, and probably influenced by, you know, child's frick, the son of the industrialist that used to shoot his laborers, because they wanted more money in the steel industry. [2:010:01] Yeah, Henry Frick was a prick. Where was this? In America. Look, Henry Frick was a prick. Where was this? In America. Look up Henry Frick. He used to shoot his workers if they wanted to. Yeah, he had a gang of gunmen come in when they were striking to make better wages. And yet he was killing them. This is our steel industry. What year was this? It was on the men who built America. It was on that show. years. It was on the men who built America. It was on that show. He was the old man. So it was back when the steel industry was just getting going with Carnegie and those guys. The child was his kid. So here it is. The lifelong opponent of organized labor and is refusal to allow union workers at his mines led to the infamous homestead strike of July in 1892 in which 10 men were killed in 60 wounded. The same month Frick himself was attacked in a failed assassination attempt by a 25-year-old Russian anarchist. Wow what did Frick do to his workers? In June of 1892 [2:011:02] he slashed wages evicted workers from their company houses, stopped negotiating with union leaders and threatened to bring the Pinkerton's a detective agency for hire that amounted to a private army of thugs. Wow. That's what he did too. Oh man. And the guy, so the guy that his kid, childs, is the one that was head of AM&H and he hired this guy Geist to go out and collect fossils in Alaska and he just didn't limit himself to here. He went out to the West Coast. It says Frick fired 2,500 of his workers and cut their pain in half of those who remained. 500 of his workers and cut their pain in half of those who remained at one point he was named the most hated man in America Wow Fucking greed. I'm fucking believe fucking greed. It's always always been the fucking The bane of mankind auto guys went out to a gnome and St. Lawrence dig up babies [2:012:02] Out of the permafrost because they wouldn't decompose and put them in pickle jars Send them back to Henry or child's Frick and am an H. I've seen these jars of pickled babies And now they're being repatriated and 60 ministers had a big thing on Cambodia and all the things they stole out of there Am an H and Smithsonian and all those guys are in on it out of there, M&H and Smithsonian and all those guys are in on it. They just don't want to return them. And they justify this based on the idea that they're the keepers of this historical record, natural history. That was a good segment on 60 minutes. I quit kind of watching them a long time ago, but this kind of peaked my interest. Because it's all about what they're doing. They're doing it right now. That's not like this had just happened in the past. These guys are like real life Indiana Jones, let's go out and plunder and bring it back home. Some of it gets to the museum, some of it goes home. I've heard of people that say they've been [2:013:01] in an auto-guys house in Europe. He's got all kinds of stuff in his house that came out of our bone yard area. Really? How to Fairbanks. Yeah, skulls, short face bears, saber tooth. Anyways, he ended up with a doctorate and a street's named after him up with Fairbanks. Hey, you find a guy that's willing to do anything for anything, that's what to do anything for anything. That's what they found. They found him. And Charles Frick had no problem. Look at his dad was a prick. That's dad. Yeah. And you know what they say about. Yeah. Apple in the tree. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. So you ask what I want to do. I want to make things right at least on the bones that came out of Fairbanks. I want the proof that men and animals lived together is there. Why they haven't studied those bones in a hundred years I don't know. [2:014:01] Do they have human bones? At the M and H? Do they don't know. Do they have human bones? At the M&H? Do they don't talk about it? Well, of course they're not talking to me. Right. They might talk to our legislature though. Boy, if they found out they've been holding on to human bones all this time too. Yeah. They're probably the people that are there right now probably don't even go in those boxes. Yep. Are they probably the people that are there right now probably don't even go in those boxes? Hmm. So if you're dealing with stuff from more than 80 years ago, who the fuck knows what's in there? It's all just stored, huh? Well, there's a whole bunch of spare points they found out in Esther, which is one of my areas. That this disappeared between Esther, Alaska, and New York City. Just disappeared for 15 fucking years. They found them in North Dakota because some guy was trying to track them down. They got some of them back, but I've asked for reports on those. They haven't done any. [2:015:00] Wait a minute. You guys were supposed to report on everything you took. You haven't done any of it. And that's my leg that I'm standing on. I could litigate this if I want to. I'm not afraid of that. But I want it to be a good story when I start off. We're bringing the bones back. We're going to make things right. We're going to study it. We're going to solve some issues. We're going to things right. We're gonna study it. We're gonna solve some issues. We're gonna solve some historical questions. Let's all get together and do it the right way. Let's do the right thing for once. Yeah. No, do you have the signed contract with other as copies from 1928? Well, that's not how business worked back then. You have the Boston men who financed it through the United States smelting or refining mining company went to M&H M&H, yeah Yeah, what do we'd love to get those bones will go get them but here's what you got to do They didn't do it. So I'm saying give them back That's why the University of Alaska went with me to New York City and said we want them back [2:016:03] And that's why the University of Alaska went with me to New York City and said, we want them back. But they know they're in the business of fucking longevity, Jubil. They know how long people live. Just outlasts us some bitch. We're an institution. We don't ever die. People come in, they raise hell, then they go away. Well, that's probably true in my case but drew up there. Go ahead deal with him. He plays hard balls. So your best case scenario is all this gets handled politically. You recover the bones and then we start putting the bigger pieces of the puzzle together. Exactly. You know, people want, oh, send me, send me these bones so I can carbon date them for you. Carbon date them up here. Yeah. Get your ass in Alaska and set up a research. I already built it for you for Christ's sake. I spent a million dollars doing it. It's done. I built it last year. [2:017:01] I'm anticipating this. They're all coming back. I might not know how it's going to go, but I know how this is going to end. We're going to get the bones back in Alaska. So just stop doing this bullshit. Let's do the right thing here, boys. Is the hope maybe some of the younger scientists that are listening to this realize the potential of these discoveries and start working with you. The problem is organizations like that, the younger scientists don't want to ruffle feathers because that's a career ender for those guys. He raised hell with the upbeat ups and Smithsonian or whatever museum. Stay away from this guy and you know they all want to be successful in their careers and I get it right but maybe somebody out there goes you know what and there's a few of them out there I've talked to a few of them they're just they can't go public right and I don't blame them they got to put beans on the table, too. Right [2:018:08] But some of the plunders plundering's have gone on Mongolia that area That's been plundered for their cultural artifacts and The people that know about it are at the museum in natural history and they can't say anything about it Because they don't want to their job. So these artifacts, do you think that there's just like these wealthy people that keep them in their homes? And then just don't tell anybody, but cause that was always the case with Egyptian relics, right? That cause we don't even know how many tombs were rated over the, you know, several thousand years and where all those artifacts went And what happened I mean because we know that like when they found King Tutts when they found his all of his Remains and the sarcophagus and all the gold line this and gold line that [2:019:03] Imagine people found that 500 600 years years ago, a thousand years ago, where did all that stuff go? Like did they melt it down? Was it more valuable as gold for them? What's the coin of the realm? It's gold, right? Yeah. It's been the coin of the realm since beginning of time. What's the oldest profession? Prostitution. That's right. You got prostitution, you got the gold, and you got people that are willing to die for one or both of those things. And so it's been the basis of conflict forever. You can melt all the gold down, it's ever been mined on the planet. It's still here. It hadn't gone anywhere. You can't get the gold down, that's ever been mined on the planet, it's still here, and gone anywhere. You can't get rid of gold. You can't vaporize it, you can melt it, but it would fit in an Olympic sized pool. That'd be all of it, it's ever been mined. Right, the whole world's, yeah. And if you've been watching the price of gold in the last year, it's up 12% since you and I met last time and it'll probably keep going. [2:020:07] Because people are they buy it to hedge against inflation. You know Costco's started selling gold bars. Really? Costco. You can buy gold bars from Costco? Gold bars from Costco and they sell out as soon as they put them up for sale. They sold $100 million worth of them in the first quarter. What? One gold bar, Swiss lady fortuna, VersaCan. Members only item, 24 karat gold. Item is not refundable, limit to per membership. Costco. Gold bars per membership. Costco. Gold bars at Costco.com. What the fuck? What the fuck? Jamie, would you imagine that? No, but do you remember the story from, where am I at here? This guy had a private collection in Indiana, he was 91 years old. [2:021:01] Says it was unlike anything we'd ever seen, collection of stolen artifacts to be returned. It gets somewhere in the range of 5,000 different things just in his house in a small town in Indiana. A delegation from China went to Indiana on Thursday to claim hundreds of artifacts that were seized from one man's private museum. He had items from all over the world, everything from ancient jewelry to human bones. Those Chinese artifacts are part of the 5,000 seized from a home in, from 90-year-old Don Miller, a man well-known locally for his passion for collecting and global travels. He died in 2015. Yeah, I remember seeing that story. Super old Chinese wetting. Wow, look at that, look at that axe. Wow. Trying to find more info on exact things that they pulled out of there But I didn't find anything really great. So there's probably dudes like this in Europe It's probably dudes like this in Russia dudes like this in China Just like this in the USA man. You think so oh this guy. Yeah, sure this guy least one. Yeah, look at that hammer [2:022:05] Hammer and the axe that's incredible That hammer is for splitting the skull open. I'm sure it's not from making a house 2000 human buns One dude Yeah, it's not he's not the only one Yeah, how many of those dudes are connected somehow to the AM&H? Well, there's just a story out recently where they have like 12,000 human bones they got to return to someplace. Yeah, on this letter that they wrote, I was going to put this up, this is a letter from this year in October. We're going to talk about what they're going gonna do with their human remains in storage. They have a lot, but wow! Where it came from, how they got it, this is a long letter. It's not super worth reading, but it does say that they have them. They hold them out of exhibits. Some of them were given to them through like science people. [2:023:00] What does this say here? These remains were removed from a burial ground in the In inward neighborhood of Manhattan during a city road construction project in 1903 to 1904 and accepted into the collection. In slavement was a violent dehumanizing act removing these remains from the rightful burial place and sure the denial of basic human dignity would continue even in death. Identifying a restorative respectful action and consultation with local communities must be a part of our commitment. Wow. So for sure they've got some fucking human bones. I just want to know if they have some human bones that they got from your spot because if they did, I just think there's got to be some in there. If you've got spear points and you've got arrowheads, God damn it, you've got to have some fucking humans in there. I also, when looking up the American lion, I found in the Wikipedia it says that the AM&H got something from Alaska in the early 1900s. [2:024:02] Hmm. Few additional discoveries came until 1907, the American Museum of National History and College Alaska collected several panthera atrocks skulls in a local locality originally found in 1803 gold miners. How do you say that word? Cots of you. Cots of you. Cots of you. Cots of you Alaska. The skulls were referred to a new subspecies of phyllis panthera atrocks in 1930. Phyllis atrocks alaskinesis. Alaskinesis. Despite this, the species didn't get a proper description and is now seen as a nomenudum synonymous with seen as a no-men newdom synonymous with panthera atrocks. Further south in Rancho Lebraya, California is a large field skull. No, no, fallet. Feeled. Feelet, I guess. Feeled skull was excavated and later described in 1909 by John C. Merrimam, Merrim, who referred it to a new subspecies of Phileus atrocks, [2:025:09] Phileus atrocks, Bebe, the subspecies is synonymous with panthera atrocks. Wow. Amazing. Whoa, look at that thing. Holy shit. Look at that thing holy shit look at that thing so that's the North American line wow and bigger than the African line which is wild we got a skull of that nice I bet you got a lot more of them on that ground too yeah we might have stuff we don't always post. I bet you do. Hypothetically speaking. Hypothetically. I bet you do. It would be a good bet. You're allowed to. It seems like they should play ball. They should. I mean, it just seems like if you guys want to know some stuff, [2:026:00] how about there's this one extraordinary area in Alaska that's produced an insane amount of artifacts? Well, the bone rush you started. You started it. No, you started it. I couldn't do it, I knew. Hey, you know what? We're tied inextricably if they have about this. I've had ample opportunity to be interviewed. I don't do it. I'm here with the greatest communicator on the face of the planet and I don't know if I mentioned this last time but I got an MS and BS So you put me in here with you if I don't know it I'll make some shit up But for the most part I'm not kidding your ability to communicate is letting people throughout your listening world that there's something wrong here. And these people need to step up after our broadcast, after our podcast last time, within two days, Amin H. Put out a press release, denying this ever happened. Well, that seems silly. [2:027:01] If you've actually visited the bones themselves. Yeah, they denied the existence of that report that I read from. So I posted that cover today in case Jamie wanted to look at it. That report was written, co-written by one of their own employees at AM&H. Now come on, boys. You can bullshit everybody. You can't bullshit everybody. This is a problem with archaeologists this is a problem that they've found with uh... trying to uh... establish an earlier date for some of these Egyptian artifacts in the temple this fakes and some of these other things that people do not want to give up any of the power they have in controlling narrative early man in eastern berin berin gear Berringia Berringia late places in an early holocene artifacts and Associated fauna recovered from the Fairbanks mining district in Alaska Wow [2:028:01] Yeah, look at that root that says early man. Robert L. Evander. So let's read. Right. Yeah. Killing time American Museum of Natural History. They wrote the report. I read. They wrote it. And what you said here is on your thing. It says, this is the document. AMNH said they have no record of. I read it on Joe Rogan podcast a year ago and identified the spot in the East River where the AMNH dumped approximately 50 tons of my company fossils back in 1949. It started a bone rush though it only took two days for AMNH to issue a press release denying it existed. Note that one of the authors an employee of AMNH co-wrote it. My goal is to get the remainder of the collection still stored in their, sent back to Alaska so the scientific research can be conducted on them. I'd like to see these Aletus snobs hauled in front of Congress and testify under oath about their misdeeds. That process is underway. Alaska is not the only state nation that AM&H plundered, archeological, paleontological, [2:029:03] anthropological, and cultural resources and artifacts from. They're doing a disservice for the people that want to understand things. I mean, they're a blockade to understanding how there is this area that you own that has this insane amount of bones. It's insane and it's a massive mystery and it's one thing that is so compelling to human beings that wanna know like what is going on with the history of animals and the human race and also with this theory, this younger drives impact theory. If they can just do a core sample on that area that you have uncovered that's 80 feet down that shows all this carbon that seems to indicate massive amounts of fire and something big, as you said, something that came in hot and that there's evidence of this all over the world now because of [2:030:04] the research that's been done on this Younger Drys Impact Theory, they know that there's evidence of this all over the world now. Because of the research that's been done on this young or dry impact theory, they know that there's a layer of eridium that exists that indicates that something from space, eridium which is very common in space and very rare on earth. There's a layer of this shit that indicates we got hit. And if you add that to what you have, this layer that shows some fucking insane event took place in your area that led to all that burning. And all these fucking bones, man. How is this not something that they are actively collaborating with you and working together with the scientific community to get an understanding of how this took place. Because I think it gets back to the whack-a-mole game. Some guy steps up and goes, I'll do it. And they go, well, you're not gonna have work [2:031:02] in the industry anymore. Right. Well, you know, we're gonna black boy ya. You know, they're afraid too. It goes against the grain. They don't wanna stick up for some dirt tramp in Alaska who's saying, come on, let's study this stuff. I already built the building for ya. I did it already. That is what's really crazy. You really did spend over a million dollars to build a really crazy. You really did spend over a million dollars to build a side. You saw the pictures of it. Yeah. I got all the receipts in there. I mean, I got everything they need. Just bring the bones back. And I'll build another building just like it. You know, what do you want me to do? People go, well, have you carbon dated all your? No, it's not my job. job will have you done this and have you done it what are you asking me for why don't you call amination ask them they're the ones that are supposed to do this shit not me I don't have the skill set I'm not a paleontologist I'm just a simple fucking boner making my way through life well super boner actually yeah all you have to do is get one piece out in your boner. [2:032:08] Yeah. I like to be a boner. You're going to be a boner. I need to be. You need to come up, bring your friends with you. Yeah. We'll go out there and have a boner party. We need to make a YouTube video. Oh yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Put you on the manual giant Manual giant. It'll work out there. Is it hard to hold on to? Not really. No, make it look like it is. And it's really is. You know, just move it around a little bit. My kids do it. I mean, my kids are a great support. My wife. We're all in on this. It's just to me, it's so strange that they continue to resist what it seems to be inevitable. And the more we talk about it, the more millions of people hear about this, the more it will become inevitable. Exactly. This is a massive mystery. And it's not like a little bit of evidence. You have the most insane amount of evidence [2:033:01] I think I've ever come across. And the fact that we're all finding out about this because of social media, what a weird time to be alive. Not just social media, the Joe Rogan experience. Yeah, but I found out about it through Instagram. I just I don't even remember how I found your page. Well, I'm glad you did and I told you last time it took me three years of saying I only talked to Joe Rogan about it. Having, knowing that's not ever gonna happen, because I didn't want to talk to nobody about it. But when we talked about it, I gotta tell you that my Instagram blew up and went from like 40 something thousand people following my page. I think that's at 370,000 now. Let's see what happens by this time next year when you come back again. Sweet Jesus, I might build a political base. I might have enough people that can talk, contact their legislators. Well, that's the hope. The hope is that if we can continue to highlight this and can just continue to show people, [2:034:03] this is really important stuff. And there's a reason why people are so fascinated by it. And we have all been fascinated by the history of the human race, and the history of animals, and the history of whatever caused these extinction events. We're all fascinated by this. And they're doing a disservice to humanity by not exploring this further further and by not playing ball Yeah, they should play ball. They should they should get involved in this and they should do so in an honorable way Where you don't have to bring in politicians this should be something that as educators and as the These are the curators of this information. These are the people we turn to. This is one of the most prestigious institutions in the world when it comes to natural history. It's supposed to be. Yeah. And they're not doing themselves a service doing this. That's the biggest service. And did you just invite me back for this year? Yes. Let's do it again. [2:035:00] I gladly accept. Let's have this an annual thing to see how much progress we make. As long as I'm the last podcast of the year. Yes, that's our tradition. You are the last podcast of 2023. You'll be the last podcast of 2024. Thank you, sir. We're going to, and my sincere hope is that they come to their senses and they do this in an amicable way where everybody realizes like this is important. It's bigger than everybody. This is good for the AM and the H. This is good for the scientific community. It's good for the curious people like myself. It's good for the world. We really should find out what the fuck is going on and what happened. And I think you have a massive piece of the puzzle, sir. And it's extraordinary. And I just, I'm very happy that you're the guy. You got some hard-nosed motherfucker who doesn't give a shit who is willing to stick his neck out and tell the truth and also to show the world. Like, just the evidence that you have on your page. [2:036:01] Just that bone with the human face carved and shut the fuck up, you know so many carved that. Stop playing games. What is it just the fact that you've got saw bones sawd bones like what who did that just the fact you've got an insane amount of willy-mount with tusks and bones and all these animals that they said are even supposed to have been in Alaska and they clearly were yeah like there's a mystery there folks there is a mystery and it's being played out, not only on my Instagram page, which is the only place, but with you. This is, if you wanna know about it, you gotta come here. You gotta listen to the Joe Rogan experience. Because I ain't talking to the so-called mainstream media. I'm not interested in being a story one night for, by some guy sitting in a studio has never even gotten dirt under his fingernails. You come out here and you walk around in this shit motherfucker and you listen and you smell what we're dealing with here. This is the ice age baby. We live in the ice age. People say, think outside the box, we live outside that some bitch. [2:037:05] If you're in the ice age all day, it changes you. Maybe it makes you fucking crazy, I don't know. But I think you might have been a little crazy to start with. I think so. I think that's why the universe chose you to own that land. I really do. Either that of the universe says we need some prick out there. That's our guy. I think that makes sense because I think a lot of people just wouldn't have gone through the lengths that you've gone through. They wouldn't have been so stubborn and determined. And also just the fact that a guy like you is exactly the type of person that you need to do all this work. It's got to be a guy like you. A regular person is not going to be so dedicated to this. You know, this is like I said, this is my cause. Last year I said, okay, everybody takes a family 21 seconds to take a leak. That was a great [2:038:01] contribution to mankind's knowledge because I got a lot of people going, you're right. I timed myself to the day I pissed for 35 seconds. And somebody else said, hey, I pissed for 55 seconds. If bad would drink beer, I'd guarantee you they could. But see, I like to think that people can still think. Yeah. So I also like to think that there's a certain degree of what you do goes into the presentation of what you do goes into the presentation of what you do. It's in the presentation. Can I give you an example? Sure. Three guys go fishing in Valdez. They leave fair banks, they drive down the Valdez, they get in the late, they need a hotel room. So Clurx says I only got one room left, it This kind of nasty. It's got two costs in a couch. How much is it? 30 bucks. So each guy pulls out 10 bucks out of his wall. It gives it to him. Gives him the key and they go to their room. The night clerk comes in a little bit later. The night manager. [2:039:00] He says, hey boss, we rented that last room out. He says, all right, what'd you get for it? He goes 30 bucks. He goes, you overcharging by five bucks. And he gave him five ones. He says, take it back to the room and give it to him. So he goes back to their room, knocks on their door, and he gives each guy a dollar, right? Okay, and he kept two bucks in his pocket. He said, fuck, they don't know they overpaid. So, let's do the math on this one. What's H meant nine bucks now, right? Okay. What's three times nine? Twenty-seven. Yeah. And he kept two bucks, right? Right. Twenty-seven plus two is twenty-nine. Where the fuck did that other dollar go? I don't know. Why are we wearing about a dollar? I'm not sure where you going with this. It's a presentation. Where did it go? They paid 30. They got $1 back and back. [2:040:01] Clerk kept two. Where I'm going is it's the presentation, it's the story, it's the way you tell it. 29 bucks is not 30 bucks. They spent 30 when they walked in. Right. But where did that other $1 go? I don't give a fuck about that dollar. I don't know where you're going with this. Where I'm going with it is I'm making, I'm throwing this out there for the people that listen to this show going, that don't make sense. Right. It doesn't make sense, Joe. There you go. What the fuck? Maybe you're thinking that right now. What the fuck, where that dollar go? I'm definitely not thinking that. I know you're not. I'm thinking where are you going with this? I'm not saying we're talking about the presentation. I understand. And sometimes things get lost to the presentation. You know, Amin H. can say, well, we did this, [2:041:00] we did that, we did the other thing. There's no evidence of this letter. Yeah, Nothing happened. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter where that other dollar went. Well, I think for the longest time, they have become a custom to being the ones where the gatekeepers of information. And when it comes to this kind of information, a little press release here, a little statement here has been adequate. They've been able to cover their tracks. and when it comes to this kind of information, a little press release here, a little statement here, has been adequate. They've been able to cover their tracks. But in this age of information, that's not good enough anymore. No, it's not. And it's like I said, it's the way it's laid out. I'm playing it out as clearly as I can to these guys. You have the opportunity to do the right thing. And it's the right thing for all the curious human beings That deserve access to that information because it's a part of the human story It's part of the story of the earth. It's part of the story of the animals. It's part of the story of your land It's a part of the story of probably the impact theory that wiped out [2:042:03] massive amounts of animals and human beings. And I think you've got a piece of the puzzle. We have 20 pieces of the puzzle and it's 1000 pieces I want. I won't get them all because I know a bunch of them were stolen. Well, let's hope that by this time next year things have progressed and we talk about it in December of 2024 for the last podcast of 2024. So we've got some good news for people. Yeah and when I got a hold of you and I said I don't know if I have anything you know I was trying to give you an out like in just in case he's got nothing for me. I was trying to manage expectations is what I was trying to do. I just, a lot of people liked my podcast with you last time. They don't like this one too. And I just don't want to disappoint you or disappoint the people that follow you or listen to these stories because frankly, some of them might not be interested in it. [2:043:02] A lot of them are, and I think a lot of now are invested in it. A lot of them are, and I think a lot of now are invested in this, and specifically since the, when the bone rush yielded results, and now people know it's true. Yeah. Undeniably. Undeniably. Stepbison, jaw bones, they're not supposed to be at the bottom of the East River exactly where you said to look for them. And what are the odds of that? And don't forget what I told you about there's other people out in the river. Yeah. And we're talking, if I have a guy come up and go, hey, I wanna go prospect this creek. And I say, okay, go ahead and prospect it. And they go prospect it and it comes in really hot as a good. But somebody else comes along. I'm not going to send them to that creek. The other guy's already there. So there are things happening in East River that spread all over the place. This guy might find this, this guy might find that. These other guys might find that. I'm not going to tell any of them anything. [2:044:01] You go about your business. I'm not going to divul'm not gonna divulge any confidential information to anybody. Just keep looking. I don't envy him for it. We don't have to look. We go get coffee, we go drive out there, we pick up a touch. Coffee's still too hot to drink. These guys get to get on a boat, go out in the east fucking river, put on scuba gear, go down there with zero visibility. That ain't easy. How would they find them? I don't know. My daughter out there, Lauren, she went on the boat with them, I think, last year. She was in New York and she went along for the ride. And that ain't easy work. No. But I hope they find them. I hope they do too I hope they hit the mother load me too and I will tell you this the mother load is still out there I know that We're gonna piece it all together my brother. We are and we're gonna talk about it next year see any year [2:045:02] Yes, sir, you're the man you're the man. You're the man. You're the man. No, you're the man. You're the man. Thank you very much. Appreciate you, sir. Thank you very much. All right.