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the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day
bullshit I never got it until this year but that's what they that's what they
say you get it within a
couple years you get it and then all of a sudden you got it yeah I don't know
what they are but
it's not bad I could hear it the other day I heard it stuffiness yeah I heard
yeah I had it for like
four days I've had stuffiness but the thing is like when I work out I feel
great the way I can
really tell like the way I judge whether or not I should even work out is when
I get in the sauna
in the cold plunge if I feel tired and weak when I'm in there then I know
something's going on it's
not as simple as allergies so I thought for 10 years I had the Austin allergy
for 10 years it was
so bad I go out to dinner even we moved out to Fredericksburg we come into
Austin I thought it
was Austin I'm serious I like Austin has given me this we go out to dinner
start eating and then
my nose my eyes everything just and I have to always excuse myself always have
to have tissues in my
back pocket then I got my teeth done which we talked about I think the last
time I was here
and Maverick my periodontist he did one of these 360 MRIs he says you know ma'am
you've got some low
level infection here and that could be responsible for a whole bunch of stuff
now I'd had hearing aids
for five years so when he did the initial extraction I think I took one or two
shows off and then I went
back in the studio put my headphones on and like whoa I thought I'd hit
something you know a volume knob
or something came back because hearing because this was infected and it was
basically clogging up my
sinuses and that was affecting the hearing yeah and a mouth infection like that's
very dangerous isn't
it people have no idea how important oral health is it's really really critical
and also I feel better
because you know I'm not fighting infection continuously how did it all start
like what
what was going on with your teeth that like made all these I had I had a bad
start in life when when
I was two or three we're living in Uganda and my parents would put me to sleep
with a chocolate cookie
so I had kind of a bad start you know and I had a lot of work I had you know
just tons of fillings of my
baby teeth everything was messed up then I had the big outboard headgear which
really traumatized me
for life taking that to school you know it's like I was one of those guys oh
yeah oh yeah it was bad
and about ten years ago maybe a little bit more I went to the dentist here in
in Austin and he was
like you know we really got to start doing stuff we got to start looking at
repairing and then this
dentist started hitting on me and texting me and you know I'm like oh great guy
or girl guy damn
damn like no no no no so and I knew that there was a Pandora's box how wild is
that like what a
risky move it was so dumb like you're a married straight guy it's like yeah I
think I can get
him though we can get we can he can be on our team that is such a mad a man
move it's such a thing that
men would do it's so stupid like I'm here with some buddies of mine you know
sending a picture I'm like
I'm not going back I'm good and then Tina and I you know we got together we
moved out to
Fredericksburg and she and she's real big on you know preventative anything you
know her car has the
oil everything on time everything's all set and her teeth of course are impeccable
that's not a good
fit for you total organized lady you have no I had a credit score of 350 oh no
I didn't have credit card
I was just cash you know like I didn't care like you know I had cash flow
everything's good I don't
care uh she straightened me out oh yeah oh big time you know we disorganized
men very much need
organized yes you just can't have one that turns into your mom oh no no that
was my first that was my
first wife and that does happen with some of them some of them when you give
them the reins and they
start telling you what to do all of a sudden then it becomes very non-sexy I
will say props to my first
wife she kept me that was the height of my show business fame MTV she kept me
out of trouble I I did
not I did not participate she was a good mommy she was a good mom and she's a
good mom to our daughter
you know so yeah for sure well you know you change they change you need a
different kind of a mom
things things change things change um yeah so then you know I I went through it
yeah I was like um
uh and that's also when I stopped smoking you know because uh Maverick called
me up he said hey man
I'm gonna be operating on you in a week you know could you do me a favor and
stop putting fire in
your mouth and I've been smoking weed and tobacco since I was 15 and I quit at
that moment I haven't
I didn't ever I mean I vape like a like a crazy horse but well that's not good
is it well that's a question
this is you and I have gone over this and we will go back to it it's a nicotine
uh yeah uh delivery
device yes that's what it is we'll get to that yeah sure so so just cleaning
out the infections
what was going on that that was up your hearing it was like the whole area was
inflamed it's right
by your sinuses and so that you know everything's connected you know if you
hold your nose you can
hear right you hear differently so right whatever it was doing and it literally
just a couple days after he
extracted though it's extracted more than that but after he extracted those
teeth it just came back
and i didn't have horrible hearing loss but it was enough where i was sick of
saying i'm sorry darling
what'd you say i'm sorry and then the moment you get to like i didn't hear her
i'll ask her later
that's when i went no i got to get hearing aids i don't want to i don't and it's
one of the biggest
reasons men um uh get depressed is when they can't hear and they kind of
withdraw and it's a it's
really yeah it's oh it's a real crisis yeah anyone you need to go if you think
you just have your ears
tested anyway why not i mean you get your eyes tested get your ears tested get
your teeth taken care
of so they find out your ears are not good do they ever check for infections no
because it seems like
now you should get in the medical books he thank you we actually he's been
writing a paper on this
for this very reason and it's only because he did the 360 mri that he saw it
and he and he also knew
what to look for it's his expertise you know he's he's when i met this guy i
was like he's he's young
he's like in his 30s i'm like so why did you choose this profession he says i
like operating i really
love doing that stuff i'm like okay you sound cool he turns out he's a pilot
you know so we've become
friends um but yeah he he says people have no idea and so he has been working
on a paper to publish
about this very thing it's just not known i talked about on the podcast and
people from all over the
world like really man you know i've been having hearing issues get an mri get a
360 mri of your head
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it's a it's an interesting
subject because candy and sugar is really what caused all this horrible tooth
decay in people and the the
goofy fucking solution that someone came up with along the way was putting
fluoride in the water
which is so god damned insane that you're taking a neurotoxin and you're
putting it in the water but
it and again like i'm i want to take even a political position on this i just
want to look at this
i want to look at this from a human lens there is something that people do
where even if something is
obviously stupid if it's a part of a system and there's enough air quotes
experts that have endorsed
this regardless of the fact that we've seen time and time again throughout
history that experts are
compromised experts are you could put in you could have a court case for a
murder and bring in experts
that will tell you he definitely did it and experts to tell you he definitely
didn't do it so we know
this for a fact but still people argue on the side of the experts and i've seen
this about fluoride and
it it's so mind-boggling there are conclusive studies that show a direct
correlation between
high levels of fluoride in the local water and lower iqs and it's a neurotoxin
we know it's bad for you
in large doses and yet there are fucking people out there with college degrees
who read the new york times
who think they're sensible people that will get angry if you want to remove
this neurotoxin from
water because look at all the strides it's done in preventing tooth decay and
you just want to say
hey man you this is stupid i went to dinner at mitch's house i call i'm a
little upset no no it's okay
because because we're sitting down it's my wife his wife you know he has a one
of those houses right
on the airport where this plane rolls out of the garage you know the hangers
out of touch exactly
i paid for that i'm like i paid for that hanger um and and we're sitting down
and we're having a good
time you know we're talking about stuff he says so what do you think about florida
said should not be
in the water he's like you're wrong you know what and this is only a couple
years ago and now he's come
back and he said oh man this is i was this apologize yeah of course this was
drilled into my head like
yeah but what i understand is fluoride is a byproduct of aluminum production
and a lot of this you know
they had this fluoride waste product basically they needed to get rid of and
from what i understand it
was alcoa i could be wrong but i think it was alcoa who made these deals and
who knows how they set that
up with the american dental association and that's how fluoride got into our
water and we got this kind
of psyop of it's good for you i knew it was wrong in uh 2000 in 2000 and there
was a book that came
out called legacy of ashes was written by a guy called tim weiner it used to be
new york times
and it was all about the cia and it's a great book because my uncle is in it
many times donald greg
he's still with us he's 95 or 96 and he was really high up in the cia he was
you know part of oss back in
the day and in it it talks about how the how the agents would go in fluoridate
the enemy's camp water
so they could go in at night and they could they were docile and they could
pull them out and they
could kind of attack them and i said uncle don is this true he says yeah pretty
much how i remember
it i'm like well of course this so the neurotoxin has been used in actual
warfare in the water to make
people docile yeah docile and and the argument is so dumb because you know my
friend eddie bravo had
a great point uh he said when you get toothpaste uh do you ever see toothpaste
that says fluoride free
why would they say that and advertise it toms if fluoride wasn't bad for you
why would they do that
like why would that be a selling point if we've always looked for fluoride and
toothpaste my whole life
crest oh fluoride got it you know when you're going through the cvs and you're
grabbing stuff
and throwing it back yeah it's always fluoride you're always looking for fluoride
that's what
kills the germ i don't want cavities i don't have to go to the dentist give me
that fluoride but
they're selling toothpaste without fluoride why is that and the guy he was
saying it to like had this
look at his face like he was like he was trapped uh he's just trapped like so
you don't think fluoride is
good for you it's like one of those things like that's just what he just said
no just brush your
fucking teeth yeah it's really that simple as a kid did you get those trays at
the dentist do you
remember those what are the trays it was it would be they'd say we're gonna do
fluoride treatment on
you oh yeah they did that and it was like it's it's a it's fruity you know and
this gunk would be
dripping back in your throat you're gagging with this horrible it's like that's
not and you go to
it's a hawaiian punch you get a d in english because you're stupid pretty much
the story of my life joe
yeah it's it's so bad it's really bad for you and it's not necessary and we're
being co-opted by
something and someone and i think we looked this up on the podcast jamie didn't
it come out of there
was some town in texas i believe that had naturally fluoridated water which
occasionally you know just we
have it in the hill country the water is definitely naturally fluoridated there's
natural levels of
different minerals and there's different stuff that in this one area had a a
fairly high natural
level of fluoride and these people had like great oral hygiene whether or not
that was a convenient
study that they pointed to or convenient case they pointed to to make the
argument to get rid of all
that fluoride you know there's like you got to look many layers into all this
kind of stuff because
they've been throwing fluoride in the water for how long and how much money has
been spent throwing
fluoride in the water and how many people have like built mansions and have you
know mercedes-benz
they're tooling around them because they've been throwing fluoride in the water
and that's
that's a deep system to try to untangle after 50 60 years of doing this it's
the petrochemical
industry that's where all our medicines come from and i was watching the grammys
and i don't really
why what's wrong with you i know well i usually watch for the satan segment i
would say okay there
it is there's the illuminati there's there's the say they didn't have one they
had crazy beautiful
women and nice dresses trump is president oh no presidents are important for
the culture it's very
important for the satan but the people they're in trouble yeah they're in
trouble jesus is making a
comeback man they're in trouble there hide now go back into the basement of
comet pizza and
place that doesn't have a basement by the way we're reliably informed um and i
hadn't really
watched network television a lot and there's a lot of commercial breaks but the
first 10
all had a pharmaceutical product which had never heard of a name i can't
remember and side effects
literally included death i'm like what is going on with this and like ask your
doctor i'm like do i have
this should i have this do i want this i mean is this going on with me and
people are all happy in
the commercials they're like look my skin looks good and i'm happy and i have a
beautiful family
it's almost like we used to you know sell cars now they're just selling the
pharmaceuticals
well that will be an interesting thing if rfk junior gets in place if rfk
junior gets in place and
they stop this advertising advertising on we are one of two countries on earth
that allows yeah new
zealand and new zealand's far more restrictive than us we should be really
restrictive about
this because advertising works you know and there's advertising that doesn't
bother me at all like
chevrolet corvette boom boom okay one of those you know it's okay it's fine but
when it can give you
bloody diarrhea and suicidal ideology anal leakage yeah and you're just up in
the head and
you're depressed and like you don't know why but now your zits are gone like
hey
slow down that was not in that commercial with the the lady dancing in the
field with her child and
the people at the picnic and they're all smiling and laughing and having a good
time together yeah
that looked like fun like what where's that part well of course you know this
was they tried they've
all tried all kinds of things to stop this and you know first amendment comes
up although we have stopped
tobacco advertisements and there's all kinds of things have been done
throughout the years
um but what happened with television is all the money i mean really 60 70 maybe
80 percent of all the
advertising income is from pharmaceutical companies that's why there's also no
reporting like we're not
going to bite the hand that feeds us that's the real problem that's that's that's
the real problem
the real problem is that these news organizations are not not just news not
just news right everything
they're not independent like even television shows like could you imagine if
let's say a network has a
prominent news organization and that news organization is very popular and it's
a big part of their ratings
and it's a reliable source of information for you know people that believe them
and they're sponsored by
pharmaceutical drug companies but then they also have a crime show yeah on and
this crime show wants to do a
thing about an evil guy who promotes a vaccine that winds up killing a bunch of
people and they hide the
data and then they arrest him at the end of the the end of the show like no way
that's not getting me no
green light for you no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no no
you gotta turn that guy into a meth dealer that's a meth dealer now let's just
do a couple of rewrites
simple rewrites of the script yeah yeah exactly yeah this is a bad guy from um
guatemala
it's definitely not from here he's definitely not from moderna
and they definitely aren't working in conjunction with the government to
develop this thing and the
government's profiting off of it that's not real well we've i mean i say that
we're in the season of
reveal i've been saying this for about a year now because and it's really
happening real quick with
what we're uncovering and starting to understand i haven't seen your your talk
with mike ben's dropped
some seeds yesterday if we're we're in the season of flowers it's it's he's
blooming today because
yeah he was so nervous yesterday jamie was talking about it before like he was
making all these tweets
like they're gonna kill him probably yeah it's probably been discussed well i i
think it's way too far
beyond and i think you know i look at um leave it to beaver i call her who's
the the new press secretary
she's 27 years old oh yeah she's good though she's fantastic younger than my
daughter's a gal i don't
think you should say leave it to beaver i'm sorry i'm sorry that's just that's
how i remember her last
name all right caroline leave it i think it's leave it thanks joe thanks thank
you so she because we're
old enough to remember when beaver was a vagina most kids are like i don't even
know what the
fuck they're talking about leave it to beaver what are we talking about a dumb
name for a vagina a beaver
because dudes didn't really have any derogatory names for dicks it's just dick
is the worst one
like oh your dick put your dick away you weirdo you know what i mean it was
like this but beaver
well we only had pecker yeah like but pecker's kind of cute yeah exactly yeah
there's no like real bad
names for dick other than dick but she comes out and she does this whole list
of usaid which is very
little money but i think our president is very smart because he he's showing us
things that enables
people like mike benz and you and i to have these conversations about you know
because it's not
ideological that usaid which is not usaid this is like one of these one of
these psyops right up top
like you have federal express is not owned by the government federal reserve is
not owned with the
government usaid is the agency for international development not aid and we see
on television there goes another
pallet onto the c-130 aid usaid from the american people we're being nice yeah
we're being we're
being nice to people we should be nice we're the nice people of the world but
um what these and i'm
sure mike talked about this you know like lgbtq these these dance parties and
things if you look
at i'm looking at these countries like these are countries where we want to
keep them away from russia
overthrow the incumbents yes and the way to garner support is to and i really
love how they added the q that
just became so clear to me all of a sudden if you sponsor lgbtq these are outcasts
these are people
who feel that they've been marginalized then you add a cue like wait a minute i
can be queer i'm
different i'm odd you bring more people in then you can bring the anarchists in
you can get a they
have the a's oh yeah the a's crazy everything but the a's don't even have a dog
in the fight but that's
the point you want them to come to the party come to the party you're allowed
to the party that's why
it's so long now and i saw this you know afd in germany you know this is the
the extreme right party
and they wanted um you know to slow or remove immigration and um so now that
there was a protest
against the afd you know some you're getting ready to vote now and there's a
hundred thousand people
there i'm like wow i'll do so i thought because i know people in germany i have
friends in germany
they really are sick and tired of this immigration stuff so where are these
people coming from
and in the news report right up front there's a dude in a blonde wig with eye
shadow saying
we just want to get along we just want can't we just be diverse i'm like that's
the psyop
he's talking about himself so he wants to feel included which by the way in
america you can do
whatever you want call yourself whatever you want people really don't have an
issue with that
but they've just taken this and abused these people into their political agendas
all over
the world and of course it sparked something here in the states if you look the
democrat party
there's they're going to die on this hill they're still like oh no lgbtq they're
taking away our rights
because they know they can mobilize people to do that and then you can throw in
palestine all kinds of
people did you join the city council thing in worcester massachusetts yesterday
that's gone viral
today which one is jimmy did you see it i'm seeing it right now on twitter oh
yeah yeah pull this
bitch up there's a compilation of these people like absolutely freaking out the
best one's the
compilation if you can find the compilation but it's all these lbgt people show
up at this city council
meaning to say there's like a trans genocide it's one of those dude we're going
to round up in
concentration camps yeah five minutes long yeah just give me start from the
beginning give me give me
can you wrap up please yes i can if you say that you're afraid of trump and
that's why you don't
want city to be the city to be a space safe space for trans people you better
prepare for trans people to
make this a very unsafe space oh brother i'm shaking right now i don't want to
be here please
i'm sorry am i taking too long pleading for my life you remembered how many
children i have and how
many and the two of them are trans there it is yeah i speak as both the b and
the t in the lgbt
he's both i'm multiply disabled i have ehlers-danlos syndrome which is a
connective tissue disorder
that causes me immense physical pain i um i'm on the autism spectrum and i have
narcolepsy and i
couldn't drive myself here so i had to hide from my driver that i was in drag
which is not an easy
thing to do in i do not want to be here it's my day off i do not want to be in
your dms i do not want
to be in your email inboxes i do not want my creativity writing diss tracks
like kendrick i don't
want to spend an hour applying glitter on my face so that you will hear and see
me what i want you to
listen to me let us remember that the no that's enough so it's like you made me
put glitter on my
face you piece of because everyone knows when you go to court you have to have
glitter these people
these people need hugs they need love i pray for them the biggest way to
psychologically manipulate
people is or there's three ways old people puppies and children and the whole
and i followed this it
started around 2012 not coincidental when you know about smith month the smith
month act so that's you
know it was a law that was put in since the church commission you can't propagandize
the american people
uh defense department and others went to the government said well you know like
we're on the
internet now we might accidentally you know push some propaganda on people it
started with bullying
in schools i know because john dvorak and i we followed it on no agenda started
with bullying then
it was um we needed anti-bullying laws and we're literally going like what
happened to sticks and
stones will break my bones or punch the bully in his nose no no then the
teachers and then we got
hate speech laws not actually laws but you know hate speech punishments and
this kept building up until
you guaranteed parents through the american medical association the pediatric
society all of these
different trade groups that if you don't transition your child that child will
commit suicide right and
that's just that is a horrible thing that they've done think about these
parents who may or may not
one day wake up and go what have i done what have i done well there was someone
was talking about this
the other day that this is the real problem is that so many parents have
committed to doing this to
their children and they they cannot face they can't the reality of what they've
done and so they're going
to dig their heels in forever and and vote democrat about gender affirming care
yes but the thing is
that's a small percentage of people in the general population thank god and
thank god but they're
they're over represented in the fact that they make it their whole life and so
they they're they're
very loud and very vocal and then they become a political beach ball i talk
about i heard you talk
about that with bridget that's what it is totally the political beach balls at
a concert they chuck them
up in the air so we always have something to fight about so we're not paying
attention to like
the usaid stuff or a lot of the stuff that's like really important and this is
uh just a a part of
this inter tangled web of psyops that's been running our our culture i mean i
would say our government
but it's it's everything culture so it's the government has established its
hooks in us and put
fear and law and rules and the more law and the more rules the better because
the more likely you're
going to break a few of them and then you're going to shut the fuck up yeah and
they they've got these
fucking things everywhere and it's just allowing them to run this mafia
business and there's a bunch
of people that are reasonable educated people that have stockholm syndrome like
they they don't want to
admit that even their people their cherished heroes like obama was a part of
this big part these all these
people that you think of as progressive democrats they were all a part of it
and fortunately today we
have the convenient access to youtube instantaneously where you could watch obama
in 2003 say some very
maga things or you could watch hillary clinton go more maga than maga about
deportations yes yes and that if
you stay you have to pay a stiff fine i mean the whole thing is it's cyclical
right like this is why
the left is now supporting war and censorship it's it's not real it's not that
there's a good group of
kind compassionate educated people and a bunch of buffoons who are racists who
want to bring that
back to confederate flag yeah that's not what's going on there's people that
are nice kind people that also
understand the value of hard work and reality and kindness and also sternness
and rule of law and you
can't just let violent criminals out in the street and hey maybe you should do
some actual rehabilitation
with the billions of dollars you make in the prison industrial complex when
there's no rehabilitation
like no real concerted efforts to completely change these people and studies it's
a mess it can be done
it could be done and it probably could be done with psychological psych with
psychedelic drugs they
probably can do some things with people especially non-violent criminals that
are trying to figure out
like why have i been stealing from people my whole life like what the is wrong
with me that i you know
unless they're a legitimate psychopath they have no empathy there's there's
people that can be kind of
woken up to why they're in this horrific pattern of continual abuse in their
life and there's
there's ways to do it and you rick perry has been really like brave in this
case because you know
he's a former republican governor of texas and that's right and now he's
advocating for ibogaine
therapy particularly for veterans for guys who come over they've seen the most
horrific
shit their brain is in a shambles and they want to do something and they they
have no help no help in
these pills that just dull their mind and make them feel detached from reality
and all these
fucking antidepressants and things they give them and they want to fucking end
their life and they can
go and get therapy that it cures 80 of them with one dose and it's like 95 with
two doses it's
fucking nuts man and we've been hiding this because because of the sweeping
schedule one drug act of 1970 that
was put in place directly by nixon to go after his political opponents it was
directly put in place to
demonize the anti-war movement and demonize the civil rights party and the
black panthers
and anybody who was a problem with the government so they just said let's just
make all these things
that these people are taking on a regular basis completely illegal not only
just schedule one like
with no medical use whatsoever things that people have been using for thousands
and thousands of years
and it's all the same shit it's all psyops it's all psyops have you ever heard
of the audience effect
it is a psychological theory that our behavior changes when we know we're being
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description well the number one thing
that happened around that time of course during kennedy is we realized that
television was a big force
television and radio they got that handsome guy and they got he and if you
listen to some of the debates like
um you know it's it would sound on the radio like nixon did better i mean it's
it's it's it's amazing
how this worked between radio and television but then newspapers uh we know the
intelligence agencies
were all writing stories i mean you look at cnn you still see x x cia guy shows
up a little story when
i saw you sitting at the inauguration and i think i texted you i'm like dude i
can't believe it i see
you sitting there you know texting me american flag emojis and stuff like and
you you and uh and trump
i'm like oh look at him he's in a tuxedo and i thought this is so my life in
1983 um i was still a
teenager and um i grew up in amsterdam socialist country the airwaves were
controlled by the government
it was horrible it was almost like russia your phone was a gray phone and that
was your phone you
couldn't get a different phone you could it was illegal to unplug it from the
wall and i was doing pirate
radio at a place called radio decibel in amsterdam and we were playing you were
christian slater
in a way you know what in a way oh yeah yeah what was that what was that movie
called uh i don't
maybe it's called pirate radio it was crazy they were trying to arrest him
remember well so we all
got arrested several times and we were playing 12-inch imports from your chicago
warehouse several times oh
yeah oh oh they would always get you had always come in and arrest behind you
we literally had the
station name on the door people would come around we'd be smoking weed or
hanging out you know we
weren't making any money we were basically paying to do it you know we had this
huge antenna on the
roof did this ever come up when you got hired by mtv did they get nervous about
that like did they
have to do a background check this guy's got a record no i'll remind me to tell
you my usaid story in
a minute um so no but this is 1983 and i and i felt it was so of course i was a
gawky awkward kid i got
tics you know i got the wrong hair everything i got the wrong moped everything's
wrong but on the
radio people are like wow and i was doing it in english you can do that in amsterdam
you're like
wow it's so cool you got that black guy on your station i'm like i'm black oh
cool so i was i was
john holden the 23 year old black guy who drives a harley but the point was it
was liberating i could
speak my mind and everything felt so stifling now we go forward 1993 and i'm on
mtv i'm the hair of
generation x i'm on z100 in new york number one station and i'm also on the
internet you know i'd
set up mtv.com was very very slim we had dial-up modems at the time and it was
so restrictive you
can't they let me do my own material but they had censorship called a line
producer like oh now we
got to burn that segment you said something bad about richard marx oh you said
something that was
off color about madonna oh we can't do that the radio was the same it was you
know like read the
liner card you know and then always end with z100 and there was a guy at sun
microsystems in san
francisco and he said adam i see what you're doing with mtv.com on the web that's
gonna send you a
computer so he sends me this big sun spark workstation he said what year 93. so
this is pre windows 95. so
this is yeah it's pretty yeah go ahead that's right windows what is it 3.8 well
this was solaris os it's
it's unix basically so it wasn't windows back then right like what came before
windows i had a mac
now i had a an early apple apple 2. 3.1 that's what it was yeah yeah 3.1 and
apple 2. i was more apple
guy at the time and and he's and so i hooked it up to my 56k mode and dial in
he says watch this
and he says what i'm on the phone with him he says watch this and up on my
screen pops a little player
and it's and he's streaming in pc we didn't have mp3s back then pcm pulse code
modulation nine inch
nails i'm like this is broadcasting i'm going to figure out how we use this
thing for broadcasting
because think about how we can use this outside of all the systems and so 2003
now we're 10 years
later um i've been very involved with rss feeds and blogs and i see my first ipod
and it's like snap
crackle pop hold on a second this is amazing we can combine this is a radio
this isn't and this is not
not a music device it's radio so i cobbled together this program that basically
takes this rss feed and
then puts a program onto you know as a so the show was an album and then each
track was an episode
number and then i immediately start doing a show i start you know what i do is
just try
get people involved that's how daily source code started because i was trying
to get software
developers in and then two years later three years later steve jobs is having a
private conversation
with me uh about putting this into into the ipod and making it official making
a podcasting thing in
itunes and i'm like this is so perfect because now you have this rss feed which
you control no one
else can control what you do with your rss feed and you can anybody can slurp
that up and subscribe to
your radio show and then 20 years later i see the the president of the united
states wrapping up his
campaign with joe rogan on a podcast completely being himself being a dude for
by the way props for
you sticking to your guns i love that you did that now it's got to be here no
restrictions on time
well he didn't impose any but he was more than willing to do it exactly how i
do it he understands
it but at that moment then i see you sitting there i'm like we just broke the
elite messaging machine
phase one complete all because of you dog no no you dog you dog man glory to
god i i i think i was just
used i always give you your props i think you were the first i was just a
vessel it's it makes sense
to me now well they i'm just a vessel too i think that's the case with all of
it absolutely i say
that to the guys at my comedy club you know like they're always like so
thankful that i built this
comedy club i'm like i think this thing built itself i think it was just i was
a thing that it did
through me it caught me because it knew that you know i was capable of doing it
and impulsive enough
and and brash enough to like say it let's just dump a bunch of money in this
spot and see what happens
you were given gifts i was giving gifts and you stuck with your gifts and and i
know you're a very
generous guy i know you help a lot of people with all not monetary necessarily
but just helping them
getting them on their feet you know like even you know parker i'm like can i
bring this kid he's
a big fan you're like absolutely bring him in you're a gracious guy and so when
you get whatever
word it is to build a comedy club you did i think you have to do that i think
that's the
the universe is testing you and if you if you pay attention to yourself you'll
feel like what's the
right thing to do like what's the thing what is the greedy impulsive thing to
do what is like the
miserly thing to save it all it's my money save it all you know that's the the
you know that usually
doesn't usually doesn't end well for those people it's just it's bad for you
too because it's i always
talk about this in terms of careers like and i really try to put this in young
comics minds there's
an impulse that you will have when someone's doing better than you and you'll
you'll be angry at them
it is a bitter pathetic jealous normal instinct that people have the enemy
talking to you it's just you
have to recognize what that is what that is is you have a desire to be doing
the same thing this person
is doing this thing they are in the movie they are on the tv show they are headlining
at the club
and you feel bad because it's not you so you decide that they are bad and so
you start looking at
them as a source of negativity towards you and you don't do all the logical
objective reasoning that
allows you to go oh no no they didn't do anything wrong it's just me and then
those people who get
really super big and famous oftentimes get very defensive and very elitist
because they do understand
that people are mad at them now so then they're like those people those people
are losers and it's
bad for everybody it's bad for everybody the correct way to do it is to go wow
look at what this person
has accomplished that's amazing that's inspiring i want to do something like
that with my life which
is what america used to be people would come to him yeah i think it is i think
it has been covered up
it's been papered over by media basically that's why i'm so happy that we've
broken through that elite
messaging system um in the way i was raised is in america you can look at the
guy with the rolls royce or
the cadillac or whatever and go i want that and you can be that and we've we've
kind of devolved
into a you know it's international now into a victim mentality um there's good
and evil well it's just
a ploy it's again the same thing as florida in the water it's a fucking psyop
it's a ploy and it's a way
to keep us instead of empowering people to recognize that all these people that
are successful are
inspiration that's what they are they're fuel for you you can use them every
whatever that person is
singing at the grammys when kendrick lamar is doing the halftime show when
someone wins a fight that's
supposed to be inspiration that's a fuel and you can use it correctly you could
or you can
your whole life up by paying attention to other people and comparing yourself
in a negative way this
is part of the problem with kids and social media oh because kids are supposed
to see like oh look at bobby
he's nice to everybody and everybody likes bobby be like bobby like look at
mark he's awesome at the
guitar and everybody wants to go see him play i want someone to come see me do
something i gotta i wish
i was a good at something as mark is at guitar and that's what's supposed to
like raise us all up but
instead we see a thousand followers and likes on someone blasting somebody in a
funny way in a video
yeah this is a big part of the problem but sometimes funny way blasting is
important too because that's
my line of work like you gotta talk you're a professional joe you're a
professional yeah
how do you become a professional you start off as an amateur you start off we
can't we can't all be
a comedian or a comic we just can't a lot more can than you think i think a lot
more there's a lot
of people out there that have the inclination that just don't don't get that
spark which is also one
of the things we're trying to do with the club which is also why we have two
nights of open mic nights
oh that's cool yeah we want to make it accessible we want to make this is like
a place where
you there's there's a real path you can work on your act and you're gonna see
guys like on a daily
basis guys like ron white and shane gillis and right you know there's people
coming in and out of
town that are doing my podcast they're like the best of the best in the world
yeah they're coming to
the club oh this is the the center of the universe now for comedy it is amazing
it's amazing it's amazing
and again i think this place i think it built itself i think i just had to do
it i was like i just
got to tell you no no no god loves you joe he is at work in you he's all over
you and has been that way
for a long long time there's no doubt in my mind well whatever it is i'm you'll
accept it yeah that's
it that's it and i listen and i go with it yeah but i think it all like too
many things had to happen
like if you want to believe in fate if you really want to believe in fate i
should believe in fate
because especially with like this move here too many things had to happen in
line it had to be
the pandemic and it had to be me with young kids who just was very
uncomfortable with the direction
that la was going and then it had to be the george floyd riots and the lockdowns
and then i had to
come to texas and go oh oh there's other ways that people live and i've known
you for a long time and
you lived here and you spoke very highly and then my good friend gary gary clark
jr he came here uh
like before the pandemic and i remember talking to him on the phone i'm like
why did you move back to
texas he's like man i just cannot with those people in la and gary's like the
realest dude i know it's
like one of the realest like he doesn't give a about fame about that guy cares
about playing that
fucking guitar and playing songs as good as he can and that guy just locks
himself up in a studio he's
got a studio on his house at his house that's what you want locks himself up in
there for 12 hours a
day and it's just that guy only gives a about the art like he's about the craft
and like so all the
that came along with living in hollywood like he would just come hanging out
the comedy store all the
time that was just because it was like oh you guys are real like i can hang
with you we'd just be
cracking up and hanging so when he came out here it's like and then ron white
came out here i'm like god damn it
and then it's like oh i love it it's it's fucking airports a breeze no traffic
everyone's nice it's
the middle of the country oh fuck and then the pandemic happened and it just it
was like it all
pulled me to the spot and then it had to be the spotify thing and then it had
to be the comedy
store shutting down for a year yeah and then it had to be all the comedy store
employees that i loved
were all unemployed and so then it was like okay let's fucking do this exactly
what i'm seeing i'm
seeing that with everybody that's why it started in 1983 i'm like i see where
the path was i've always
been doing you've always been doing this stuff and that's the thing about much
sense podcasting to me
too it was oddly compelling like it didn't make any sense i was making no money
and i was busy it was
costing you money probably on bandwidth and stuff it was definitely costing
money and i had young kids
and it was just like why am i why am i spending my time doing this when i
should be spending my time maybe
doing something to make more money because especially back then it's like i i
wasn't doing fear factor
anymore so i wasn't really making the kind of money that i was making when i
was on television so i had
a tour a lot so i was doing stand-up and i was doing like way too many dates
with the ufc the ufc
although i love it to death it's i mean that's the only job job i still have i
still work for somebody
but it's because i've been there for so long but it was like 22 dates a year
they send you a w9
um i think i'm an independent contractor what's the w9 how does that work i
have accountants
i was just messing with you i'm like joe walsh i have accountants pay for it
all yes right i got
a mazer maserati does 215 185 i lost my license now i can't drive yeah i have a
limo ride in the
back lock all the doors in case i'm attacked yeah great song life's been good
to me so far yeah that's
right it's great i use that song all the time everybody's so different i haven't
changed you know
he's a ham radio guy joe is he really he takes his rig out on the he doesn't go
on the road that
much anymore when he's on the road he has this huge ham radio rig and that's
like i've been a
ham for a long time and that's like the if you have a as we call it a qsl uh qso
that's a that's ham
code for a conversation okay with joe walsh oh man there he is look at that joe
walsh is the
fucking man dude he's awesome life in the fast lane that's gonna change the eagles
the eagles on
the way to killing your testosterone and making women cry all day and then all
of a sudden joe
walsh comes along and now you got life in the fast lane give me give me that
riff give me the beginning
of life in the fast lane it was wild rock and roll guitar attached to this
beautiful
voice and lyrics and songs and songwriting give me give me this jamie give it
to me let's see how
accurate it was but it was there was a there's a you know guitar like i was
talking about gary like
here oh close close boom boom oh all right that's all we can do we have we get
in trouble get in trouble
get in trouble is that already going to get us in trouble probably probably
nonsense you're screwed
because here we have all these pod you know there's four and a half million
podcasts really only 400 000
update regularly so it's not even that much that's global um they've we oh how
dare you
you're teasing me we can't play music in podcasts because of all these
different uh entities that own
it and so you know you if you so if you perform something on the radio or in a
live stream that's
a performance right which you know the club plays for that too if you're
playing in music so that's
ascat bmi then you have the um the publishing right now because you download a
podcast well all of a
sudden now you've made a copy of it so that's another group over here so you
have the publishers
then the record companies you have all the and they just could never agree and
they've locked themselves
in so tight that the biggest opportunity for music would be to play it on
podcasts they've just
they've they've painted themselves into a corner and it's so and we all know
now that most artists
you know you get 10 000 streams on spotify and you get a you know a penny after
uh after a couple
of years you see what snoop dogg when he he was going over this oh it's right
now i'm sure it's
it's horrendous he got a thousand bucks billions of streams and you got a check
for 45 grand and
taylor swift gets all the rest of the money i mean it's it's very not because
taylor swift owns her
music isn't that the whole deal like if you own your music if you're the
publisher right any of you
know this i don't want to get too deep into spotify and all that but people are
starting to move away
from that and what i call the value for value model where uh we actually built
this with podcasting 2.0
where you can say you can send a boost like i want to send some money to this
person straight from the
app so you can play it you can play a song in the podcast as long as they've
agreed to the to the
license they own all their stuff you can send the money uh we just did suzanne
santa we had a
i invited you to that yeah i couldn't make it unfortunately all i had to say is
i invited joe
that was all i needed to say um and you know we had six people on stage six
different bands
and they all made between six and eight hundred dollars coming just from from
out there there
were not there was maybe 50 at the end of the night maybe 50 people left it's a
monday night
but they were all making more money than they had ever made on any other
platform in their life
just because people can send it through the internet through we actually use
isn't that crazy
that six hundred dollars for a performance that goes on the internet is the
most they've ever made
from the internet absolutely isn't that crazy like you think about how many
times they streamed like
i found out about suzanne from um online some dude named balls of steel sent me
a message and he said
this is your new favorite song and i was like what and it was honey honey angel
of death they did an acoustic
version on the top of a roof in downtown la and it was incredible and i was
like oh my god and then i
became friends with them and yeah she and nick are great and their baby is
super cute yeah it's adorable
yeah adorable it's so cool to see her mom i love it yeah but it's all it's like
that there's been so
many streams on the radio and the fact that you never made more than 600 bucks
is crazy
like something's broken well that's because the the publishers are getting all
of that right exactly because
you know it's and then but then on the other hand you get you know you can get
really famous
like people like tile the creator and all these different people that have
blown up just from
being on the internet and then they do live performances yeah but it i still
feel that
that someone's making money well we know the publishers are making yeah people
say the record
companies but it's the publishers yeah they can't call them record companies
anymore if they don't make
records thank you thank you records i was in my garage the other day and i put
my wall of fame
in the garage like time to move this out of the house like i'm old enough now
and i'm looking at like
there's a uh a platinum record um with a cassette with a platinum cassette on
it like do people
even remember these days when you got a platinum record with a cassette on it
that's crazy five
million copies sold of a cassette tape jelly roll gave us one of his platinum
records we got it out
there in that guy that guy is awesome he's the jelly roll is what what a story
he's such a sweetheart
he's such a nice guy he's a big crossover artist you know the christians love
him country guys love
him the rock and rollers love him it's like he's the perfect perfect uh
crossover artist if i were
an evil record executive he's the perfect he's a perfect crossover artist joel
we need to sign him
that's also like most unlikely looking to be the sweetest guy ever with all the
face tattoos and
everything just goes to show yeah you can't tell a book by its cover no you
cannot never ever ever ever
so um anyway back to that it's just it's a shame that we've you know the right
the the music industry
has moved it into this protectionist place um and it's i mean even if you have
a spin studio you know
the the gestapo comes around like you know you've got more you got more than 75
people a day here you
need to pay us more and you know they're very litigious the whole thing is just
a mess yeah it's a mess
yeah i mean law is great because it protects you from scumbags but laws but who's
it protecting now
because the artists are making no money exactly yeah although it's become
easier to you know to do
your music at home that's i mean i remember going to the hit factory in in new
york and hanging out
you know watching people record records that was amazing with you know the big
machines and lots of
people running around that was cool i think youtube and social media presents
very unique opportunities
where a guy like oliver anthony can all of a sudden explode out of nowhere with
one song yeah he's
another sweetheart yeah you had him on yeah he was at the club the other day
that was great oh really
hanging out where does he live um i think he's still down south maybe he doesn't
want people to
know him okay well he lives i don't want to say around but he he was i mean
back was he was he was
he was in virginia west virginia okay yeah west virginia that makes rich richmond
north of richmond
right right right um yeah that's where he was i don't know if he's and and god
bless him because
he stayed he stayed away from the system yeah we had a phone call yeah i i
called him up when it
when it would all started popping off for him he said i'm gonna sign you boy i'm
gonna sign you to my
rogan records you're gonna make millions here take this cadillac it'll be great
yeah i sent the cadillac
right to his house um that's the last thing you want to give that guy you want
to give him like a 1983
exactly chevy that's redone you know a pickup truck yeah like an f-150 from the
80s like redone the
boxy ones yeah that's you want to get tracking the dash yeah yeah no he's a
genuine guy he's a really
nice guy and uh we had this conversation over the phone he said people are
offering me millions of
dollars to do this and that and this i go stay independent and he goes they
keep saying i gotta
strike while the iron's hot i go no no no no no listen to me you you've already
made it all you have to
do now is just keep doing what you just did and you can do that right you i'm
sure you have other
songs oh i got a bunch of other songs then he sent me some of his other songs
which are just as good if
not better and i was like dude you have talent talent is what you that's what
everybody needs all this
other stuff is people just trying to take advantage of your talent stay
independent that's what i mean
about you joe you are you're a good guy but i was already i i was already past
that spot where he's at
like i'd been in that spot before where people are offering you deals and stuff
like that i know what
the the trappings of that is you're broke and then all of a sudden you have
money and like for me it
worked out great that that happened to me in 1993 i got this big development
deal with disney and i moved
out to california to do a sitcom but it was like but it was i wanted to be a
comic and then all of a sudden
i've got all this money that's coming from tv i'm like this is so weird was
that news radio no that
was hardball it was a baseball show that was on fox that never made it i was an
mtv man i wasn't
paying attention to any of that stuff or didn't actually it actually started at
mtv because i got
a development deal with mtv first really yeah but the development deal on mtv
was like 500 bucks
to do a pilot i'm not kidding and then it sounds like mtv i'm not kidding it
was like 500 bucks something
maybe five thousand i don't think it was though i think it was five hundred
dollars and if i did the
pilot and the pilot was successful they would have me locked in for some exorbitant
amount of time i
think it was like five years where i couldn't do anything other than mtv and it
was because
they had a few people that became really famous off mtv and then left and so
they had decided that mtv
is uh going to keep all of their talent you know like which is the funniest
thing because when i got
there in 87 vjs were expendable they're like you know you're expendable shut up
you know we can we can
extend now they couldn't because they brought me over from europe and had a two-year
contract i think
the first year was 150 grand the second year was 175 grand and i got a car
service and uh and i could do
radio any any radio i wanted to do and so and they just they a lot of the p not
they but a lot of the
people at the office really disliked me because they'd be like cut your hair i'm
like no i'm not
going to cut my hair why are they wanting to cut your new creative direction
for the for the channel
i'm like no and you know i i had different lengths of hair throughout the years
that's the 80s man
that hair was like have you seen the artists were playing let me give me a
photo of adam curry in 88.
it's glorious i have the hair of generation x don't call me a boomer look at
that come on who the
would tell you to cut that farrah fawcett that's a beautiful head of hair that's
an amazing good
times brother yeah imagine someone telling you that that probably that was like
a huge hook too
like probably a lot of the ladies well you know what uh merv griffin always
said merv griffin always said
people with big heads are successful on television that's why you had pat sajak
and of course jay leno
jay leno big heads right i don't have a big head so i had big hair so i had a
big head exactly
the formula works right there's no like little tiny headed dudes that are like
wow no no what is that
about no that works on youtube now but on television doesn't work on youtube
you've got a tiny head i think
i think anybody can be successful on youtube right i mean it's all kinds of
doesn't that show you that
the formula is bullshit then you know like you got a guy like mr beast who is
not like classically good
looking guy who's got the biggest show in the world that guy has i mean so i
don't people say he's a
creator i think is a creation he he is a creation of youtube and how it works
you don't have this uh
because you're you know you're so established but they his team and he's talked
about this micromanage
every second of each video every cut every the poster images all these things
and it's all about
time spent viewing if one video does a minute 38 and the other one does 140
that other video is more
successful i mean it's really in order to to like hook the algos get everything
rolling you have to bring
that down to a science and of course and this is not for you and i i don't
think because you have to
always keep feeding the machine you got to keep feeding it feeding it feeding
it you have to make
your life a part of your youtube channel otherwise you know you drop off very
quickly yeah well um
i just think he has a different approach i mean his approach is very like
scientific he's very
very intelligent about it and i i'm a feel person which is why i when i get
people as guests i never
think like sometimes people think oh you try to get like the biggest name
guests because that'll be
the most popular videos i don't i don't do that at all i only who do i want to
talk to that's exactly
how i've always done it so that's i'm going to always do it do i want and if it
happens to be mel gibson
you know and the great interview he was great he was i mean i'm like that's for
me he's always mad max
when i was a kid you know we we'd play hooky from school we go back we'd and
someone have a vhs no
i had a beta max you had a beta max yeah and like we're watching mad max and
then diana ross in
the round i mean that diana ross we love diana ross like oh she's so awesome
but the mad max man
that original and he's standing there with his boots in the desert and at the
beginning it was just
movie oh he had a bunch of bangers but he's just he's an interesting guy you
know and that blower on
top of the the engine i mean the whole thing was just we just loved that that
was a fun movie and
then later lethal weapon and then and i didn't realize because i'd seen the
passion uh which is
you know as a as a jesus freak myself it's like that was like whoa that was a
heavy movie to watch
and when he said i didn't realize that i thought the whole thing was an aramaic
and it was the
subtitles that you were basically reading the subtitles and his theory that it
you know it it
penetrates you differently the story i think is so spot on i think so too i
mean really really
interesting well he's a very underrated filmmaker and i always point to apocalypto
as another example
of that yeah there's no english in that movie no and it's a masterful movie it's
a great movie
that guy has a calling man he's he's doing a and talent he's got just and he
fought the system he
really really fought the system so that was what was fascinating about talking
to him about what
happened when he made the passion of the christ because it was really it wasn't
that it was an
anti-jesus uh reaction to that film it was an anti-jesus reaction to that film
that was really
made by the motion picture industry because he had gone outside the normal
distribution system
so in creating that movie he financed it himself he went outside that he got a
smaller distributor
and it did really well and they were like 800 million dollars exactly crazy
like we got to make
sure this doesn't happen again and that's where the attacks came and that's
also where
jim caviezel his career completely stalled out you would think the guy's in a
gigantic blockbuster
movie like that like he's going to be in blockbuster movie after blockbuster
movie after this no they kind
of blackballed him yes well and so you have smaller studios now like um angel
studios and they're in
utah and they did uh they crowdfunded uh this uh the chosen which is you know
the story of jesus and
it's i mean unbelievable they're in their fifth season now completely outside
the studio system
completely away from it and it's all crowdfunding at the end of the season the
credits are like 15 minutes
everybody who donated and everybody who donated you know x amount they get to
be extras on the
set i mean it's a whole new way of looking at producing stuff interesting yeah
then of course
they went on to do the an apocalyptic movie called homestead which is a dog it's
so horrible
it's like uh what is this i mean it's oh it's a bad movie oh bad acting is it
bad enough to watch
it no no tina and i were watching we're like do we bail no 10 more minutes do
we bail no no it's
gonna happen do it it's like no no it was too bad i mean just like it's hard to
make a good movie
of course it is well imagine the amount of people that you have if you have a
bunch of idiots telling
you to cut your hair imagine how many dumbasses you have in the background of
the movie that are
telling you what to do all the money people all the executives like it's so it
must be so hard you
have to be like a quentin tarantino who's like they just leave him alone let
him do his magic he's an
interesting have you met him oh yeah he's been on a couple times interesting
fell we hung out with
him the other night we went out to dinner with him him and roger avery who's
also awesome and uh
then we went to the club and we hung out at the club he's an interesting guy he
and that's what he
like what he like requested to come to was he wearing his tracksuit no he was
just normal i saw him
in la when i was there for about a year i was like you see him like tracksuit
tracksuits are
comfortable tracksuit i get it why the mob guys wear tracksuit yeah of course
the russian mob guys
they know this is the way to do it adidas man adidas that's my uniform i think
the move is like
stretchy jeans because stretchy jeans give you all the feel of a tracksuit but
you don't look like
a weirdo i've become a hoodie guy you know much much to my my wife's chagrin
she's like you know i
got friends of mine saying hey fetterman i'm like i really rather really wore a
hoodie to the
inauguration that was a little wild i mean the hoodie was one thing but the
shorts i'm like well
you know that's fetterman i guess that's really who he is i mean it's kind of
weird in that like
come on everybody else is wearing a suit but it's also kind of like well that's
how he dresses 24 hours
a day like yeah but you wore a tuxedo dude you wore a button down for the
president being your studio
i was impressed by that well i thought i felt like i had to with the vice
president too yeah it's like
i gotta wear something nice it's because you know it's a little bit it shows a
little bit of respect
yeah i didn't even clean the table off though but you know my friend uh harlan
williams was very happy
that dimitri was on the table oh your snake yeah he he gave me a giant hug he
goes dimitri was on the
table when you were interviewing the president yes this is a a gag that harlan
did he said he had a
tapeworm and then three hours into the podcast he pulls out this snake out of
his pants you got to see
harlan he's so funny and so unusual and so eccentric that like for him like
that was it was such a huge
thing to see the snake on the table that he pulled out of his pants i get it i
get it i mean it was so
interesting where um you know you've talked about the the harris campaign and
all the stuff that they
were saying and you know it's like well we talked to his people i'm like his
people i think it's jamie
and then maybe one other guy well i do have managers and they did talk to them
oh they did talk to yeah
but what they said just wasn't true but i mean it's not like you have a super
big team here no it's a
very even the team outside of here is not that big but it's um just con it's
just normal political
they just lie they cover their ass and they lie i would have been very happy to
have her on and like i
said the goal was to release both of them the same day i was trying to create
it would have been great
that would have been fantastic yeah i was trying to figure out if that would be
possible to do
you know and that's what i wanted to do i wanted to put them out both at the
same time but that's
it that's where we broke the message the elite messaging system we broke it
because they could
not put her into the new system they couldn't because they knew that she would
fall down well
they just got scared they could have they could have put her in i would have
held her hand i would
have we would have a conversation not that i need to hold you probably would
have voted for her but
what i meant was no i wouldn't have done that i wasn't gonna vote for her i don't
know joe she might
have charmed you but i was more than willing to strong man or steel man all of
our positions to
try to like that i wanted to i wanted to know what would be the good in this
and why you know and let
the even if it doesn't make any sense express it the best way possible that you
can i will help
you do that and then i'll ask you questions yeah but i'm not going to be
antagonistic i'm not going
to be a shithead i'm not going to be i have no desire to turn this into a viral
clip thing i'm not
trying to do that i don't think you've ever done that with anybody no i don't
want to i never wanted
that done to me so why would i do that that's why i wore this hoodie iron sharpens
iron that's that's
what you are brother you know you you get bring people in iron sharpens iron so
a friend sharpens
a friend you're always you know i come here i come here because i want to learn
from joe i want my iron
to be sharpened by joe you do that with everybody who's there well i just want
whoever's in that seat
to do the best they can right so like whatever it is whether whether you're
talking about quantum
physics or whether you're talking about human psychology or ancient history i
want the best
version of you and i want to like kind of help you get the best version out and
if you're running for
president i'd like to get the best version of that from you and i think that
the whole system of of
debates and public speeches and interviews is so bad for getting to know a
human being yeah and i
guarantee you like i've seen interviews where she's really funny i've seen this
one i talked about
it before but i'll say it again this is one interview she's talking about
meeting her mother-in-law for
the first time and her mother-in-law grabbing her face like oh you're so
beautiful it's very funny
and she laughs and she laughs in a genuine way it's not like that sort of
defensive laughter that she
does sometimes where it seems like it's orchestrated it was a genuine laughter
and it was fun well she's
a prosecutor that's why she kept going into prosecutorial mode the same with
the so-called debate with trump
she was prosecuting him so she has a switch that she just the right and she
becomes an authority and
then she whereas our president you know he's kind of him all the time they're
eating the dogs i think
that won him the election too that was awesome i mean that's one of my favorite
jingles of all time
they're eating the dog they're eating the cats are you kidding me this is that
that that just like that
that's fantastic well it is uh it's very interesting to watch um it all take
place it's it's very interesting
to uh watch this uh shifting of the consciousness of the country the culture
yeah and but also to
see the reaction on the left like to see the really crazy people like those
people that worcester
town hall thing like that it's interesting to see that too because you're going
to see these like
really exaggerated grasps at retaining relevancy like really exactly well they're
crying out for help
is what they're doing they're crying out for help they've been psyoped i mean i
i i'm only on x i've
i gave up facebook and instagram i'm not interested and x i really only use as
kind of an inbox you
know people will you know send me stuff and things for the show uh but early on
when um uh blue cry was
still a uh a secret project within twitter that jack dorsey was running i knew
some people who were in that
secret project and so i have an account and i went on there the other day i'm
like oh my lord this is
horrible these people are spinning up and spinning out and just going nuts with
each other it's yeah
and i was like i i don't know how we we we have to figure out a way and you
know president trump says
success will bring us together i think that's probably true but you know we can't
just um i'm a little
worried that we're all going to be stomping on them you know it's like ah look
at these stupid libs
looking you know they're idiots they're crazy and i i just feel that you know
you gotta you gotta
love them and not hate them you don't have to forget what they've done or what
they've said but they
have been abused by multiple entities and systems within our own government and
political uh organizations
yeah also they're in this feedback loop this echo chamber and they they don't
have outside people that are kind
you know everybody outside is the enemy and they're they're trying to like they're
trying to make
their way through life like all of us but without forgiveness you don't you
have nothing like you
have to be able to forgive people yes you have to without that there's nothing
well you you remain
trapped in your own prison yeah and you're also you have enemies forever that
could have been your
friends there's no reason for it it's not good for you it's not good for them
and it's just like this
stubborn inclination that a lot of people have to stick with that like those
people forever for life
you really shouldn't do that it's not good well especially if those people feel
bad if they apologize
and they realize they've made mistakes yeah like that's what life's about you
you got to be able to
understand that in the past you've made mistakes and grow and if we the people
that have made mistakes
and grown do not accept the people that are currently making mistakes and
growing well then we're hypocrites
well that's the same with uh covet you know i know many people who either lost
their job or were forced
to take something they didn't want to take and they they will never forgive
them like i won't forget
now forgiving is not the same as forgetting obviously but they they can't bring
themselves to forgive
those who were caught up in a massive psychological operation and they are and
they're held in their own
prison of anger and it's with their own family members i mean that it's almost
like did that happen that
just went we're now back what are we doing all these things have gone so fast
we you know we had an
attempt on uh on a on a president's life and it's like we don't know anything
and all the what what
what just i mean we're like our heads are on a swivel spinning around like what
is going on and
and i think and the drones you know what about the drones so the drone thing
for me that was so odd
first of all there's a base over there and they they're testing some some drone
technology but
people in the united states but really around the world this is how we go
through life we go through
life looking down i'm a pilot i fly helicopters airplanes i'm looking up at the
sky all the time
there's a lot going on there's a lot happening in the sky and then the minute
so what have you seen
all kinds of things joe what have you seen i've seen the starlink satellites go
over my house that
those trip people out it's amazing it's like whoa and you know like eight or
nine in a row like whoa
fast very fast and they seem pretty low actually like 60 miles up like um but
and of course you know
once it becomes a story then every i know all these people with drones are like
dude i'm gonna get in
the news i'm flying my drone they got six foot diameter drones flying around of
course i mean
aliens and chinese drones they always want to have their red and green anti-collision
lights on it's
important it's like i was like no no and of course there was some you know some
actual um legislation
that they wanted to pass which happened that same week which was to get chinese
drones out of
america um the dji drones they don't want them um they want to get they passed
that the same week
dude same week same week that's that's why they psyoped all of these uh local
people and they're all
there yes oh yeah it was it was that it was these motherfuckers yeah they
wanted the dji dji drones
no longer to come in and you know but really for for law enforcement to also
have local authority over
drones which they didn't have and now they had they're going to have that as
well so they can say
hey you with the drone down we're doing something important here right so it's
always to remove your
freedom trust me whatever the side yeah that was the same time and all i had i
looked at this like
okay i'm trained myself like let's go take a look what's going on oh that's
interesting isn't it
well this is another argument for deregulation too because when it comes to
innovation the issue with drones is
that if you want like a really high level sophisticated drone in america you
have to have
a pilot's license you do yeah yeah this is this is a that's a big deal and the
faa is very involved
in the policing well you need that i mean you need that for our skies oh 100
yeah china don't have
that bro they just they got a social credit course but also if you know i talk
freedom and talk to a
lot of guys who do our audience who just got people in every you know we've
trained them you're producers
you know something about one particular topic you you have an obligation to let
us know so we have all
these guys drone for hobbies drones for law enforcement drones for news and
they all said you know these dji drones
they're so much better than the u.s drones they're just better they got better
stuff better technology
better cameras so they you know they're like i don't want to lose this and you
know i guess uh
the thing is without the free market the innovation is going to be stifled if
the innovation is only
available to the highest level military contractors that's crazy like
especially when it comes to drone
technology like you're competing with china and they're doing these enormous
light shows with a
fucking dragon flying through the sky have you seen some of those things yeah i've
seen them fall out
and hit people oh gotta crack a few legs if you want to make an omelet i hear
you i'm glad i don't go
to drone shows for this very reason joe i'm careful i'm careful yeah that's
probably like those air
shows where they fly jets around like i'm not going to be on the ground no i
don't go to those that's why
i like um starlink because starlink is really first and foremost a military
system and and very smartly i think
elon is very good at marketing it's like let's give this to the people you know
so that's everyone
i mean i have it as a backup at home i have fiber but i have a starlink of
course i want to have this
but it's really a military system dude i took one with me to the mountains in
utah when i went hunting
worked perfectly it's the size of this yeah the to go the little incredible
little to go it's incredible
you can make phone calls you can do facetime all from the mountains the middle
of nowhere i know
i know it's it's we used to dream of i think i had data belt.com at one point i
dreamt about you know
wouldn't it be great if we all these satellites and they're circling around and
we call it the data belt
and we'd have all this stuff and you know all these things i can just see uh
the delight of uh and of
course a lot of it's you know spacex these are very sophisticated nasa people
you know there's all
kind the best of the best is in there i think he knows how to hire the right
people um and but he's
smart at how he markets that he really is i mean the newest thing is they've
teamed up with t-mobile
so they're saw that yeah so you have starlink compatible compatible phones only
joe right
so you've gone to flip phone now i've gone to flip yeah so are you texting me
on that thing
no i tech uh we do it on signal so i do that from my computer oh yeah you're a
weirdo so now you've
gone completely flip phone so you don't text anybody anymore no i can text i
can text message but we've
but it's like t9 no no there's actually so um i still have my graphene os which
is the de-googled
stuff but that no you can't put that on here so this is android but all i
really have on here is
text messaging rcs so yeah so i'm still a green bubble this is a big flip 63
and it's from caterpillar
baby whoa so this is like for job sites yeah yeah your battery lasts a year how
long is the battery
literally two days if i don't charge it keeps going oh yeah it's no problem and
so this is android and
you have a touchstone screen a touch screen yeah yeah if you if you text it
pops up now it's the whole
thing is it's hard to use and that's why i like it because i don't want it's a
trap well reading your
text messages is a trip what am i saying nothing they're so small this is crazy
yeah how do you get
back uh use the the back button on the keyboard oh my god that's hilarious so i
this is so in a pinch
i can bring up a web page in a pinch i can bring up my email right but it makes
it complicated yeah
so i'm i'm hindering myself so that i'm not enslaved to it and actually um i
hear from uh from our
daughters you know that there's a lot of kids who are doing this now they
because they want to be more
present so if you want to send a text message like if you want to get into your
messages what are you
using to send a text message oh here i'll show you are you doing like t9 no no
no no so you're typing you have a
little tiny keyboard see i can even do it look emojis emojis for my wife see
you just hit that
and then up pops the keyboard but you can also swipe so you can just swipe oh
my god this keyboard's
hilarious you can also you can also do try to write hello hello my wife will be
like what's going on
it's probably auto completing this is terrible yeah you gotta i have it in
swipe mode yeah so just swipe
along the letters i don't know how to do that yeah just yeah no high sense nope
didn't work
i have fat ass fingers too man this is not gonna work it's it's not easy and uh
but i you know it's
like i just need to i like talking to people now too like it's it's a great
phone for talking to people
yeah talking to people's better and you know what's cool do you have navigation
on this thing no well i
could put it on there but then it won't work but you know you talk to someone
like yeah yes satisfying
yeah that is satisfying has and look has little alerts if i get a text message
so i can see so if
somebody tells you hey the meeting got moved to 10 p.m i don't have meetings joe
well
whatever our dinner reservations get changed you'll get it uh yeah you know it's
dvorak my my partner
on no agenda he uh he literally has a phone in his drawer and he never takes it
out he has decided
no i don't use navigation he lives in san francisco he wants to you know he
wants to keep his mind
sharp by driving around he says whenever i need a phone i just turn around to
someone say hey man can
i use your phone for a second there's always someone with a phone he says so if
i really needed to look
something up i just ask him for it and it's been good to go it you you know you
get the feeling that
you need this thing but you really don't well you definitely don't if you have
a laptop yeah and and
spend dedicated time doing certain things right especially like if you i can't
keep up with emails
it's impossible it just doesn't doesn't make sense see that's basically all i
do i can't do it
it doesn't work i have filtering and all kinds of stuff there's like people who
will email me 15
times a day okay and well the thing is of those 15 messages there's one gem in
there so but you have
to check them every day otherwise in three days you've got 45 messages that
doesn't make any sense
how many 45 hundred 45 hundred messages that one guy oh yeah but but i but i
put him in his own
email box oh i see and so then you know like when i'm prepping for the show
like no no no no i can
just see right maybe boom maybe check that out yeah so i'm a real that's a i'm
a real information
manager that's by the way i am not a big believer in the benefits of ai at this
moment
um but if it can fix my email then i'll believe it and so far no one's done
that with how could it
possibly fix your email it should know what i want to see and what's relevant
to me based upon
how about the transcript of my show or i mean all these wonderful inputs i can
give it how come it
can't do that it's no one has fixed email for me when you do that then i'll be
a little more a little
more of a believer in ai right now i think it's a great parlor trick i think it's
keeping the stock
market afloat um you know we've gone through three ai winters even has its own
wiki page ai winter it
comes and goes you know at a certain point it was uh list was the programming
language and then you know
that went away and then funding dries up and you know now it's like what we don't
really need a
hundred million dollars to build a model oh but wait a minute they stole that
from you so you can copy i'm
i run these models at home on my own computer i run the llama model which is uh
meta they've open
sourced it i've um i've run the french one whatever their frog model whatever
they call it and um and
then deep seek you can also just load that on your own computer and it's not
very impressive i mean it's
just not the the error rate is too high so i'm i'm skeptical of it really
taking off and i certainly don't
think it's sentient or anything of that kind i think it's on its way and uh um
i think also the versions
that we're getting are not the versions they're currently working on and the
people that i know
that are in the loop at the highest levels of ai are alarmed including elon i
had a conversation with
elon we went to uh we were in line together to go to church the day of the
inauguration it just happened
right next to him and we just walked through together like hey what's up and
that's all i wanted to talk
about was um the leaps that grok ai is making and he's like it's like weekly we're
shocked and i think
this thing is exponential and when they start attaching large language models
to quantum computing
it's going to get very very weird that's the pivot i'm waiting for when people
start coming man and
that's going to be like an asteroid hitting the yucatan you know we've been
waiting for quantum
computers to actually work for 30 years and it's always 10 years away and right
now it's 10 years
away yeah but right now they're able to do things with them you know they're
able to solve very
complicated algorithms one it was i'm not an expert in this but there was one
computation they did and
you know that may be a computation it could do it's not necessary that you can
give it any computation
you know that the computations that it's doing are are so insanely complex that
they believe it's proof
of the multiverse yeah i've heard this yeah you're not you're not buying it no
not at all really not for
a second okay because i how dare you i know i'm a luddite i'm a luddite look at
me i believe in this
yeah um i've got no smoke signal in my car for a number of reasons one is i'm
not using it i am
i am the techno guy i've always been early in computers early in the internet
and i just can't
find a use for it when i find it it does some simple things it's very good at
language honestly
if i'm look if i was like okay here's my situation i'm looking for bible
scripture it'll come up with
something good and then i can say and read it to me like a like a baptist
pastor and it'll go hey
brother you know you know he'll do all that stuff but okay you know it has all
of the translations of
the bible in it and so it can it can predict reasonably what scripture will
work it's usually not all that
great it can do term papers it can do you know we're in a position now where
people are putting
their resume into chat gpt sending it off you know thousands of people are
sending off for a job and
the other end the people are taking that resume putting in a chat gpt and
saying please summarize
this resume i mean that's insane it's like what are we doing here that doesn't
make any sense
if it can fix my email they'll be very impressed that's all i want that's all i
ask a particular
puzzle though that's everyone's email is a puzzle it's like you know the spammers
get around stuff
and they figure it out and you you say report a spam then it comes back in a
different way and
you know every and how many older people especially but even people our age who
get scammed
by uh you know these emails that look pretty convincing and then the minute you
click you know
then you're they're like oh i should put my password in and then then you're
gone you're done there was
there's a phone scam going around right now which is unbelievable they had me
going for 15 minutes
i got a call uh it was eight o'clock in the morning right at eight o'clock and
i'm about to walk
the dog so i press it to voicemail i come back i listen this is the sheriff um
uh from um um
travis county and it had a 512 number and you know i need to talk to you
urgently i'm like okay
this is kind of messed up i call back i get it i get someone oh i want sheriff
so-and-so yeah hold
on a second we'll transfer i'm hearing you know like police radio chatter in
the background the guy gets
on and he's saying well you were an expert witness you were called to be an
expert witness in a case
i just happened to and maybe this is not coincidence i was asked to testify on
someone's behalf in a in a
case and so you were supposed to be an expert witness in this case you didn't
show up uh so you
know you've basically broken federal law and you know we have to come and pick
you up and we have
to you know or you can pay a fine and and then i'm like okay and it and it just
kept on going and
i'm like whoa hold on a sec it sounded so real and then at a certain point it's
like well
you need to go you need to get a coupon to send this money i'm like i'm going
to call my lawyer
you can't call your lawyer i have a do not hang up uh uh order i have to walk
you through the whole
process i'm like okay now i got it but that was 10 15 minutes later and a lot
of people have fallen
for this one it's re it's good super sophisticated very so is that overseas are
they like no spoofing
a number no i mean these were american voices it sounded like a sheriff it
really did and the deputy
sounded like a deputy i mean it was sophisticated it's good it's really my how
much was the fine
like uh 3 000 for this for this infraction and 2 000 for that infraction you
know for these two
different things and then you're going to bank transfer so they're going to get
your bank numbers
but i mean at that point i i caught on like no hold on a second you know how'd
you get off of it
i said i'm going to call my lawyer and he's like no no yeah i'm like you can't
tell me i can't call my
lawyer this is bull crap and then and i had to calm down i'm like i said to tina
i said listen to what
just happened to me this is crazy some people i know in our in our in fredericksburg
actually went
all the way wow yeah the older people you know right and they were afraid they're
like oh of course
authority that's how they get you yeah i'm sure you've got the the one that
says uh this is my favorite
bitcoin uh scam it's like uh uh okay i've installed a spyware on your computer
and i saw what you were
doing looking at that porn site and i've recorded everything and i'm going to
release it all to your
to your friends and on your social media if you don't send me two thousand
dollars in bitcoin right
away don't even think about contacting the authorities have you gotten that one
no they've sophisticated
even more now will they'll use your name and your address like i know you live
at this address it's
it's freaky man so that kind of stuff would be nice if we could have ai protect
us from that
yeah if it can do all these wonderful things focus on that help people save
people now yeah cut out the
scam yeah cut out speaking of scamming what do you think about coins
like what's what's your take on like hawk to a coin okay melania coin and those
are more mean more
meme coins um coins right isn't that what a meme coin is any so the only coin i
believe in is bitcoin
and we've talked about this before right in fact i looked it up hoping you
would bring it up two years
ago when i was here the last time bitcoin was around forty thousand dollars
today it's close to a hundred
thousand dollars this this will continue to go up uh until we're long gone um
it's very interesting so
i don't believe in in coins at all because if you have bitcoin has no ceo there's
no one in charge of
it it's literally tens of thousands of people around the world who run these
nodes that make it open
and make it run and keep it at this 21 million coin limit i'm totally down with
bitcoin okay i'm with you
good but i think the coin thing is fascinating that anybody can create a coin
yeah you know like
jamie has a pull it up jamie coin i don't know if you know well but you not
make it don't put that
on me you do not it's out there now i mean now that you just said it now that
we just said it because
we brought it up yesterday with the boneyard guy with john reeves and uh we
said you should have your
own coin get the boneyard coin and now apparently somebody made one so this is
you bring this up in
context of scams because they are scams the way it was trouble so if if i
wanted to make a quick
quick amount of money i'd have a a coin and have my bots ready and i'd say hey
joe have you heard
about my my curry coin and you'd be like no wait and it would come out and it
would skyrocket my bots
would sell it i would make a lot of money and it would be dumped right away it's
a scam over and over and
but what if you don't sell it yeah then then you'll have uh empty bits worth
nothing but if you so it's
only available for pump and dumps that's what that's the only thing it's good
for it's it's not good for
anything else what about if you wanted to use it to finance charity is it
possible bad idea bad idea yeah
um you know a lot of charities now they will accept bitcoin and why is that
good because people have
bitcoin and i have some bitcoin you know i've been saving my bitcoin for a long
time instead of selling
it to which i then have to pay capital gains over the difference between what i
bought it for and sold
it at i can give it to the charity i can still take my my tax deductible write
off they can do one of
two things they can convert it right away into dollars no capital gains because
it's the same the same minute
so i've actually been able to give more than i would have or oops or they can
um they can sell
some of it and hold some of it for a longer term i really really believe in
bitcoin and what we're
seeing now there is something interesting going on uh our dollar is in big big
trouble and president
trump knows this this this falls into kind of the tariffs uh talk um have you
heard about stable coins
no okay do you mind if i just give it a little go ahead sure our monetary
system it really started
after world war ii 1944 um we were nearing the end of the war d-day was coming
or maybe it just
happened it was we're getting pretty close and um europe in particular was very
worried that after the
war they would fall into the same great depression that happened after world
war one when we had the
great depression so they brought in all the uh all the economists and all the
money people got on the
queen mary and went to the states to breton woods you've heard of breton woods
probably no the breton
woods system okay so breton woods is just this resort they all got together and
they decided that they
would have a new monetary system for the entire world i'm not an economist but
i've looked at this long
enough to understand it and um when they came out after two weeks he said okay
we're going to have this
thing called the international monetary fund the imf and they're going to uh
manage the interest rates
or they manage the currency exchange between all the individual countries with
the u.s dollar as the
reserve currency so we became the money of the world and we back it by gold and
the idea was one dollar
could always be exchanged for 35 ounces of gold and you know when you're the
reserve currency everyone
has to have the dollar so everybody wanted our dollar what did we do we signed
the marshall plan
we sent tens you know just billions of dollars over all our companies went into
europe started building
factories and and you know so all so the dollar kept going in all these other
currencies kind of came a
little bit weaker because we were so strong with our money and then people got
a little worried
about the dollar they looked around and went like hey do you guys have the goal
to back that up in
fort knox of course we didn't because we just kept printing money and sending
it over and then you get
into this thing called the the triffin dilemma and that means that when you are
the reserve currency
your currency is basically overvalued and you can't export anything and that's
exactly i'm skipping over a
lot but that's where we are today our products are too expensive to ship to
china and sell in china
because of the value of our dollar this is why president trump is saying hey
all our money is
flowing out towards you we need to get some of that back so we're going to
raise tariffs i think it's a
short-term solution so i think uh two things will happen um one is we have this
sovereign wealth fund which
you've heard him talk about the sovereign wealth fund so in that will be the
value of you know our our
public land that the government owns and all kinds of other things will be
valued at this astronomical
amount and in that will also be the strategic bitcoin reserve that the
president promised now we get
stable coins this is this is a crazy crazy thing that's happened there's this
so stable coin is a digital
dollar it's it's pegged to the dollar so it's always a dollar and you can pay
with this through the
internet through you know apps and everything um it's already being used all
over the world the only
reason it's worth a dollar is because the stable coin company that creates it
they have debt and paper
to back it up so they buy america's debt they get treasury bonds or t-bills
which actually pays uh a
dividend so you get interest on that and for each dollar they have bought in
treasuries they can
create a stable coin so if you look at the company tether they have bought more
of the united states debt
than most countries they have 160 billion dollars worth of u.s debt and for
each of those dollars
they've created a stable coin which now people can use all over the world transacting
whoa and what's
their business there's like 50 people in the company so they have 160 billion
dollars at four percent
interest annually they're making bank just for just for holding this debt so i
think president trump is
very smart and he's seen that we can flood the world with our stable coin and
you kind of get a two for
one so you you you create you create a dollar of debt but then you create
another dollar on top that
can be used all over the world as our as the reserve currency and that should
probably result in i don't
know the the mar-a-lago accord or some new monetary system that we're going to
have to come up with
to really have our dollar be valued properly but also still remain the reserve
currency and remain
the strong export country that we need to be because you know what do we do we
don't make anything that
we sell abroad you know we can't all be you know serving each other burgers and
fries and and washing
each other's cars and cleaning each other's homes we have to we have to build
something and all of that
went overseas everything everything we got all the stuff on this table this you
know it didn't come
out of his butt this is from china although i don't know so so there's
something big coming really big
and it has to happen and um trump is a very meta guy people misunderstand he
under he's going to refi the
country that's what he's a real estate guy he's going to figure out a way to
refi it and it'll it'll be
digital and a lot of the bitcoiners don't like this because they like bitcoin
to be the money that the
whole world uses you know that may one day happen but you know now it's more
like the digital gold you
know you can you can keep your your value in it and you know i can send a
billion dollars if i had it
i could send a billion dollars to another country to another person in 10
minutes and you know no one
can stop me um so it's a very useful tool but it hasn't quite turned out to be
money or currency
the way it was originally intended but it's going to be a very important part
of it i think you'll see
bitcoin uh be a part of that strategic reserve it's very it's easier than
sending gold you know then
oh i'm going to ship you a billion dollars worth of gold i need you know
armored cars i need dudes
everything uh security and ships and whatever um so it'll be a part of it and
you'll still be able to
use it between people um but it looks to me like stable coin and tether in
particular is going to be
the the future of of the u.s dollar payments and this is where a lot of people
on the right certainly
are very afraid of um control grid you know because a stable coin is not
necessarily like bitcoin you
can stop it you can control it you can see who sent what to whom there's a lot
of fear about this
um and particularly um although i don't see any maliciousness um this fear that
elon and the paypal
mafia and peter thiel all guys you've met all guys you've had on the show i
think are actually quite
nice people that they're going to bring in the new with ai and we're all going
to be locked in and
you know stargate will bring cancer mrna vaccines that'll be mandated i mean
people are spinning up
over this stuff and i'm not saying that they're necessarily wrong or there
should be no concern
but we are moving towards a digital dollar and it will have aspects of control
which is why i like
the backup of bitcoin so i can still transact and do things without anybody
being able to stop it and
you're going to get none of that with a coin nothing when ftx that scandal what
what were they trading
in was that all meme coins was that different cryptos is there a difference
between meme coins and
established crypto coins well an established anything but bitcoin has someone
who can who can change the
ledger who can change the blockchain bitcoin you can't do that it has it's a
beautiful system the checks and
balances are immutable i mean that that's the beauty of bitcoin any other
blockchain that is owned or
operated by a company or people can be and will be manipulated and ftx was one
of those what i believe ftx was
really used for was slush fund into democrat party and politician not just also
to some republicans as
well um that kid that sam bankman freed he got abused by his parents i think i'm
just alleging this
i don't want to get sued over it but when you see what what was going on there
and the money that was
just being you know slushed right through into different foundations democratic
operatives right big time
they had they had non-profits and all kinds of uh and he was the number two
donor to the democratic
party that's right which is right that's right and you're doing that to kind of
buy your way through
this that's what it seemed like to me yeah because you're doing shenanigans you
know big time and
and they're all also doing amphetamines and i mean polyamorous relationships in
the bahamas like it's a
polycule joe it's just a polycule i mean it it was it was sad for these kids
because they were just all
excited and doing stuff and you know i mean when i've been in i've raised money
from kleiner perkins
and sequoia capital and you know when you get them all googly gaga over oh this
guy was so cool he
was sitting in the pitch meeting and he was playing a video game but he's such
a genius i mean what are
you kidding me right venture capital investors are not necessarily the most
sophisticated well they want
results and if they're getting results they'll put on the blinders what i i i
was just reading about
elizabeth holmes uh oh yeah i love that she got screwed she got screwed oh yeah
how so well okay so
she was in a situation where the the so-called smartest investors in the world
which included
cole and powell and you know everyone was in on this deal everyone's like you
got to get your money in now
you know bring everybody in we got this big fund this is going to be it this is
the blood test it'll
change medicine and you know they hyped her up they put her in the magazines
they got on you know she's
looking like the female steve jobs and she got caught up in it and and false
and you're taking agency
away from her she changed her voice she started dressing like steve jobs she
started lying about
results this is she fired people that didn't go along with it yes but does she
deserve to go to jail for
10 years for ripping off people who were stupid yes really well you can't rip
people off i think
you like it's i think you have restitution and hundreds of millions of dollars
people lost
like that's not rest too you don't have that money you're not going to pay it
back because your product
sucks so they've dumped all this money it's a civil it's a civil crime and
there's there's definitely
some blame on the investors but the investors were too big to look stupid so i
think they pushed a
little bit more on her than she does i'm not trying to defend her her do you
think she should go to
jail at all yeah but not for 10 years how long a couple days yeah just a couple
days yeah just
just enough to transition joe yeah just enough to come become a dude and then
we're good to go
no i mean the it's just another example of of big money being stupid and they
maybe they could just
admit that you know like they pushed her i know how it goes i know i remember
we had a pod show
which was you know a lot of sophisticated investors kleiner and uh uh and sequoia
you know this is like
same people elon i met elon when uh when they launched the tesla i was at the
at the hangar where
they where they did the first test drives it was it was interesting um and i
was like this guy seems
like on the spectrum he's not really talking much it's like what's going on
here you know it's like
what's happening with this um and you know so we were doing podcasting so this
is right after
maybe a year after steve jobs put it into into itunes and the and the ipod and
and so there was
money coming in and you know the first thing they said is you've got to be in
san francisco well if
you want a media company where's the last place you want to be is san francisco
you need to be
la or new york no no no you got to be here and why they want you to be in san
francisco so they
could come and see the office and check out the operation and make sure their
money's being spent
well and how often are they going to visit oh you have no idea they're always
dropping by like what's
going on and so you're doing reports and they just want to hang out with the
cool guy yeah well that too
maybe but then you know it was definitely a struggle we were actually kind of
profitable for a bit there
but it was you know like godaddy ads with promo codes you know code bongino i
mean it was like
you know it was like yeah is it are people really listening are they just using
the codes
and there was there's always a lot of scams in the honey scam well no not like
that no there's
there's scams of you know when companies need to we didn't do this but when
companies need to raise
more money in silicon valley then they'll buy some traffic from bots and i'm
sure it happens on with
comedy videos too people like i need some traffic on this video let me buy some
bots and so you
definitely can do that right right of course yeah um but then at a certain
point um youtube had come
out you know and oh youtube everyone has to do video now you gotta do video you
can't do audio gotta
do video and then it got even worse like we sat in the in a board meeting like
have you seen juiced
juice juice i'm like do you remember juiced j-o-o-s-t oh yeah it was the guys
who built skype
they built this video platform that was basically a peer-to-peer streaming
television shows and there
was no doubt about it you've got to go video be more like juice make your
interface like juice
so at a certain point you're like well what am i going to do am i going to risk
running out of money
am i going to listen to what they say do they really know what they're talking
about
and ultimately you know the company ran for 10 years and no one exited you know
it just kind
of got folded into other things so it was not a great investment uh of their
money or my time
honestly well it's kind of amazing that the big video platform is still just
youtube and now you
know youtube just passed netflix now is the most watched thing on television oh
they're the big
they're not even counted in the streaming uh data in the streaming wars but
yeah they're the big i have
youtube tv i don't i cut the cable i don't watch i don't have cable anymore it's
like i've just
i watch youtube on tv more than i watch anything because there's so much
variety there's so many
different things you can search the fact that you could essentially find
anything like if i'm interested
in you know some particular region of the world of ancient history i just punch
that into youtube and
i've hundreds if not thousands of videos on it it took them a long time um to
get i think to make that
profitable inside of google because if you if you see how many videos are being
uploaded daily and
transformed into digital video and i mean it's it's crazy the amount of
computation that goes into youtube
and the amount of bandwidth that is being sent so i think it took a long time
they never really reported
the numbers they've only done that in the past couple of years or how much
revenue now of course youtube is
is making bank i mean it's really it's an incredible it's shocking that no one
has come up with anything
even remotely close it would take too much money it's so much investment that
goes into doing that
it's it's it's a lot i mean you remember your bandwidth cost back in the day
pre-spotify you know
think how how do you solve that when you have a hundred million videos being
posted every single day yeah
you can't i mean you'd have to have billions of dollars in startup money and
then and then you're
still struggling to get people to use your app like you remember that one
company that came up was it
quibi what was it yes what was that what it was they spent so much money was it
katzenberg
katzenberg and um i do not remember it was a hollywood thing it was it was hollywood
i think it was
quibi jamie and they got a bunch of famous people to do short short short short
drama yeah and they
put two billion dollars in and yeah gone they blew it real quick because you
can't you can't
manufacture something that goes viral no you can't and that's kind of like tick
tock we talked about
tick tock last time i think i was here and you know obviously it's not an issue
now that china is
spying through tick tock because it's still here i think as i told you then i i
think it's because
they were eating silicon valley's lunch you know doing four billion dollars
taking away revenue
from them and just looking at the people who sponsored the bill it seemed like
they had a lot of
um donations from google and amazon you know that just seemed to me like there
might be some some
issues there but what people misunderstand about tick tock is it's not just
about the videos and
the format and the format and how it flies by it's about the shop the shop is
their magic sauce
if you look at the back end um the influencers who get paid on tick tock they
have this whole back end
with rankings and who sold more stuff half the videos on tick tock once you get
out of your algo
half of them are about products and people are you know just selling products
and it's all from china and
it's all been coming in under the 800 de minimis um tax regulation so there's
no there's no import duty
or anything paid on it they actually have i think team you now has warehouses
in america so it's just
chinese crap that we're buying over and over again is wildly successful it's
not really about the ads
on on do you get ads on tick tock a lot of ads i don't use a tick tock okay
good yeah i got so when
it was going to go away i'm like i got to get this app i got to see what
happens you know it's like
this is going to be crazy so i get the app and i'm using my uh my graphene os
phone so i can lock
off all access all it all it had was my location can't hide that from the ip
address and my name so i'm
can get tick tock on a graphene phone yeah oh yeah yeah and you can actually
block it from accessing
your contacts blacking but still that was too much for you you had to go to a
flip phone that's
interesting well that was my it's my experimental thing and so all it knew was
adam curry in the hill
country and it went i think it went curry black name hill country there's
probably about 50 churches
where he is boom right away i'm getting black preachers brim hellstone brim oh
yeah and it's
just like and on and on and on it's been phenomenal so and some of these guys
are pretty good but the
ones that fall back you know it's like and the guy catches them every single
time and so their algorithm
is just give that person more of what they want they're not they're not trying
to do like us
like in like you know meta or i'm not sure about x how that works but let me
inject some people who
are against it or have a counter uh a counter argument like when uh when i was
on the last
time and i talked about my my coming to jesus dude there were tick tock videos
with millions of views
of just this you know this is one bit and and if you looked at it one time it
just you get the same
over and over again they get all kinds of jesus stuff back and forth that's all
not anyone
going yeah you guys are crazy you know this is no good none of that so it's a
very friendly it's
kind of the chinese model you know it's like give people what they want and don't
try to interject them
or spin them up or get them angry and then throw an ad in their face when they're
all emotional so
it's very different it's very different kind so i don't know if it'll be worth
anything to anyone
buying it unless you have the shop portion without that i don't know i don't
think they'd have all that
too i mean you gotta have you gotta have the products if you gotta have the
cheap chinese
products that's what that's that's the problems like do you have that that
stuff i mean you'd have
to still be buying them from china yeah it's it's fun for you know for us like
oh you know different
crazy people i mean dvorak use it all the time he's he's in an algo of just nut
jobs you know he's
like blue hair look at this he plays clips on the show i'm like dude you got
you gotta do something
else with your life during the days it's just amazing how many of those kooky
people are getting
so much traction and that was the thought that it was a chinese psyop that they
were accentuating
all these people and that was like ruining the culture of america because it
was showing you all
these blue-haired psychopaths with beards and lipstick and but it's really
polish it's really so i heard the same
thing from i heard people saying dude you're wrong they want to get rid of tick
tock because that's
where maga lives i'm like huh and then it was because that's all they got they
got because that's
what offends them so exactly exactly so it's just it's just it's very social
media the internet in
general was kind of a bad idea it's kind of hurt as good for many things but
there's two sides of the
same coin this is good and bad i mean uh why would you say it's a bad idea
though i think it's a great
idea well i mean you were just talking about it to shift the balance of
information because of the
psyops if we're not aware of the psyops and you know the darpa the defense
agency research project
agency agency um i had too many agencies in there darpa since the 70s they've
been looking at social
networks and really in the there's a ah there's a guy he came up with the law
of large numbers and they
they figured out that in a computer network regardless of the content um
depending on if
you have enough nodes you can predict where the information will flow so um if
i'm talking about
something here if they boost the right nodes they can predict where that
information will go and that's
that's how i don't think even elon can stop that from happening it's not an
algorithm thing it's
it's literally like a law of nature thing that just it that's the way it will
flow and you can start
injecting things through the right nodes and you'll propagate some message and
i mean it i think it's
happening all the time everywhere i mean once you start looking it's like well
where's that coming from
well i think we need to educate people on how to um how to digest social media
and you know i think
you should treat it the same way you treat junk food you know and i think there's
certain aspects
of social media that are really interesting and i like them i mean most of what
i get on social media
is what my friends send me so that's how that's how i do it sure and this is
how i stay sane is like
my friends send me wacky things and i go oh my god what is this like my me my
friend christina prasitzky
she sends me like the the nuttiest like trans activists screaming and nutty
guys who think that
they're women and then uh me and tom segura we exchange uh murder videos murder
oh and uh and car
accidents and animal attacks and then you know before breakfast no i try not to
in the morning but
sometimes i have to check my text message because i have business stuff i have
things things going
on you know guests and this and that and so i do check but you know it's just
it's very intoxicating
to just sit there on the toilet and just start scrolling toilet scroller but
you gotta you know you
gotta develop discipline and discipline's important for every aspect of your
life you just you have to
know like when you've had too much but that's that's not easy for young kids
you know right it's not but
i think they can learn just like they've learned everything else in this world
but you need parental
guidance and most of the parents are hooked on it themselves well i think they
need a message you
know and i think this conversation is part of that message you know i think
kids need to realize like
you are wasting time like if you spend two hours just scrolling through tick tock
you have wasted time
and there's stuff that you probably should be doing and you're going to be
depressed if you don't do
those things you're going to feel weird you're not going to feel satisfied you're
not going to feel
like you're on a good path you're going to like not have a lot of uh respect
for yourself if you just
like sit on the couch all day and scroll through tick tock which many people
listening to this have done
a whole day just sitting there eating chips scrolling through tick tock and
just wasting your day that is
possible to do i think there's ways that you can incorporate it into your life
where it's interesting
you know and i've got good algorithms now uh especially on youtube but pretty
good algorithms
on instagram too where most of the stuff it's showing me is stuff i'm actually
interested in
so do you get those videos when you're interested in a topic and then there'll
be like five different
videos that are being suggested to you and about five minutes in you're like
this is just an ai voice
that's that's cobbled a whole bunch of old things together and it's a new
version of it oh yeah i'm
not learning anything yeah there's a lot of that there's always those too a lot
of i think youtube is
the best because like i'm interested in specific subjects right like i'm a car
nut i love old cars in
species in particular this by the way lots of people love restored things
people love restored cars we
love you have i i think do you still have your car which one um the corvette oh
yeah i mean beautifully
restored just just peak last time i saw it which was i think in l.a yeah this
is what i think the
president is doing he's trying to restore us back to being that great american
muscle car and i think
people everybody loves a beautiful restored muscle car you know what i mean
well america is making
real muscle cars right now like this is one of the rare times where america's
got very exciting
automobiles that are out now you know we've talked a bunch of times about the
corvette zr1 which is
breaking all these labs that's the is that the mid-engine is the mid-engine 1
000 horsepower corvette
tina won't let me buy one i'm like let me not no it's just you got to put your
foot down no no i'm
good i'm good no no no no she's like that's a douchebag car yeah for me it
would be kind of douchey
why yeah i mean it's awesome don't think that way that's silly ever since i
started flying 350 miles an
hour i don't care about how fast they go on the ground it's not even how fast
you go it's just
but that's why i like old cars because it's not even how fast i had a c5 though
i did have a long
time those are cool yeah they're a little shitty actually they really got good
around c7 c7 was
that heads-up display was cool though it was like oh c5 had a heads up yeah it
had a heads look at that
that's the new one that's the zr1 come on son that is not a douchebag car that's
a goddamn american
work of art yeah that's a fucking american work yeah yeah it's nice can i get
my dog in it look at
that can i get my dog 95 pounds what is he she is a uh she uh great pyrenees akbash
rescue mutt oh
that's yeah completely white i didn't mean to misgender your dog yeah she's
very angry look how awesome
that looks man you don't have to take your dog everywhere reward yourself adam
curry you're the pod
father get a corvette look at that thing that's beautiful cockpit inside of
that thing that is
beautiful and the performance of that is unparalleled it's like it's an amazing
automobile a friend of
mine he just because he's a real american car he just bought a a tesla model 3
and he bought it for
the autopilot he says i wish this came in 16 cylinder you know multi-turbo he
says oh yeah but he says the
autopilot he just loves that he loves the autopilot i have a s the plaid i have
a plaid tesla the four
door larger sedan yeah just have the autopilot yeah full self-drive it's
incredible it's incredible i
don't use it that much i like to drive but just the capability of the car is
amazing yeah the speed and
the effortlessness in which it merges with traffic and just takes off with no
sound beautiful man it's
beautiful yeah but it's different so i like yeah i like old air-cooled porsches
i had a 911 a long
time ago they're not fast they're not fast because you're a man-haired manual
yeah always the truck
clutch like oh you got to push that thing in well it's their floor mounted too
they're different the
old porsches are different but it's um what they are is a physical experience
it's like a ride it's a fun
exhilarating experience where you hear though you hear the engine you're
shifting the gears yourself
it's exciting and engaging and that is more important to me sometimes than just
speed
like i don't need to go fast it's not even about going fast it's the whole the
whole the whole
experience yeah you're feeling the rear end break a little with your ass you
know as it can't do that
anymore in these modern cars man it doesn't work anymore we used to put porsche
engines into vw
buses back in the day that was awesome you could all you can fit it in a in a
beetle too you can
fit you can fit a porsche engine into it oh yeah a lot of people have done
crazy beetle transformations
where they've hyped up porsche engines and put them in the back of those things
yeah there's a whole
like modding community of beetle freaks that take beetles and they're volkswagen
they're volkswagen
remember how many there were in the 70s coming in from germany we all had a i
had a 1303 i loved my
beetle it was yeah when i was a kid my friend jimmy had one he had a he had a
beetle it was just cheap
on gas it was easy to drive and mine was like i like i had to jump start it
because the lock had broken
so like you jump started every jump start every time you got in and then i'd
lost my gas cap and
so i just had a rag in there oh god and if i went um around the highway to the
right and if my tank was
too full then gas would leak out and my front tire would start to slide off it
was like it was the
back you know we were 18 you know yeah you know just like yeah i gotta drive
this thing it was great
i love that was a good we weren't scrolling on tick tock joe rogan we were
doing dangerous stuff
that's true we were jump starting our cars and we were i think we're lucky that
we've seen both
we've gone through we grew up in a time where there was no internet and you
were going outside to do
things and people did physical activities but then as we got older we
recognized that there's this new
technology that's connecting the whole world in this weird way and we're
getting to experience it as
people who know the world before that i think we're real lucky well you're you're
a big part of of of a
change certainly in young men i mean i've seen so many young men who uh follow
you and follow your
workout regime and follow you know listen to you they listen to you about what
you're saying about
health about food and that's a that's a really you're an important voice in
that regard you've
really really uh helped a lot of young men in our country and far beyond i mean
i know you don't
take compliments like this well but you're it's very important what i'm very
happy very very important
what you're doing there's a lot of young men that just feel like real
disconnected to the world nothing
seems to be anything that is interesting to them and they're being pushed into
this box where someone's
trying to turn them into a fucking chihuahua you know like this is like the
evolution of the wolf into
the dog that's what's happening with men like for some reason men are supposed
to be neutered you know
um there's um in the six so i've been ever since i uh i got saved and become a
believer there i've
really learned about our american history and i've been blown away by how much
because a lot of you know you
didn't talk about the 60s and when they outlawed psychedelic drugs and put it
on schedule one
that was the exact same time when the bible was basically taken out of school
and it was you know
and and um i think the church in general you know kind of went into itself and
kind of you know became
you know a thing you do over there on sundays can we pause real quick because
you got a p you got
let's pause we'll come back we'll talk about jesus we'll be right back yeah all
right we're back
yeah yeah oh man much better right thank you thank you so we were going to talk
about the
vaping thing because you're saying that there's nothing wrong with vaping well
i didn't say there's
nothing wrong with vaping so what is that can i see it yeah can i hold it yeah
so this is a brick
i mean you could hurt somebody with this if you wanted to somebody up well if
you get a good grip
yeah yeah no you just yeah it's like uh brass knuckles almost yeah like holding
a roll of pennies
yeah this no you wouldn't do that you're gonna break your hand that's all silly
that's why i carry my
gun that's probably better that's the battery the battery is heavy so it's so
when i gave up i've
always take a pull of this yeah yeah so it's how do you do it the top button
press yeah press it and
just suck what was the the flavor of this tobacco-ish tobacco-ish yes tobacco
basically so
that was a little hit yeah you can take a big one right let it warm up a little
bit let it
yeah press the button and then yeah there you go it's cracking yeah yeah go go
go go go there you go
that's definitely different than the gas station ones oh you don't want those
this is organic juice
it's got 0.3 milliliter percent nicotine i wind my own coil made out of silver
the cotton is america made
cotton not from china no i've got into this yeah what's the cotton for so if
you look at the the
mechanism see okay so the cotton sucks up the juice and then the coil warms up
the cotton's like the
filter no the cotton it has the juice in it and then when the coil worms warms
up it creates the vapor
the juice that's in it so do you have to constantly refresh the cotton yeah
yeah so you just dunk
your cotton in the juice no no no no the juice is inside it's in the tank yeah
it has little wires
in there so it just crawls up cotton in every now and again yeah and i unwinds
a new coil from time
how long do you have to wait before you put new cotton in it depends i do it
usually once every
couple of days that doesn't give me the weird head rush that the gas station
ones do that's chinese
crap that's the what i like though i like all right good luck to you i would
like the first hit that's
what you like off those the gas station vapes it's like you're chasing the
dragon you get that first hit
you're like first hit's like so relaxing and then after that you never get that
again so i really got
into this uh there was a store in fredericksburg called vaporlicious they've
retired now they've
retired jerry and kathy and they're two old hippies from uh why do they make it
so unwieldy well you can
get all kinds of different versions but i'm a serious user so i need this whole
battery i have
a whole kit with me man i got a screwdriver to open this up and that doesn't
work with your lungs or your
health or anything like that no i've i've never felt this good okay and so this
is different juice so
what is the juice because the thing about the the the actual oil is the issue
right yeah and this is
a thing like a lot of these cheap ones that you're buying off the gas you don't
know what's in there
this is this is glycol which is it's essentially the same stuff that's in the
theatrical mist machines
okay only much watered down and and all it does is just produce vapor and so
what is vapor well it's
mainly water and of course you're mixing it with nicotine and nicotine you know
that's that's the piece
that i've always liked about smoking uh but now i don't get the tar i don't get
all other contaminants
and i also don't get high you know i stop i kind of stop i used to smoke a lot
of weed yeah i stopped
it's just i haven't felt like doing it anymore you know like a glass of wine
but no and so this i do
have gorilla grip on it it's like everywhere i go i'm like where's my vape
where's my vape so i'm
really fully aware i'm addicted to more the the motion of it because oh i mean
i would i would roll
up you know i could roll them with one hand behind my back i'm doing it so long
so a real spliff with
tobacco with weed and then it will go out and i put it down and i come up pick
it up again at a certain
point it was like three in the morning i'd wake up like i think i'll go roll it
roll a joint you know i
smoke a whole spliff go back to bed i mean it got to be a little i was smoking
a lot you know and
without it i'm very productive joe i gotta i gotta tell you i'm super
productive i'm doing all kinds
of things very good for productivity and for me it's caffeine it can work well
those are those are my two
drugs you know caffeine and nicotine i i kind of i kind of dig it i really do
it's very good for
productivity yeah is it is there any bad stuff i mean i know it constricts your
blood flow uh in your
mouth and in other parts probably i mean obviously you're putting something in
your stream so it i
don't know but you like those uh those pouches yeah i do but i i wanted to see
what happens if i took
time off and i went out of the country for five days and didn't bring them and
i was fine didn't bother
me at all i was like i was i was wondering if i'd be like itching for one like
i'm okay on the plane
i can fly to europe i'm like you know i'm i'm okay i don't i don't need to vape
go in the bathroom
we'll just get a quick one in there on the plane you know this is a very bad
idea if you do not want
to be caught vaping on the plane oh really yeah of course i had that set off a
fire alarm um i don't
know can you blow it right into the toilet uh no you can do what they call zero
zero zero vape
which is basically you inhale and you just hold it in until until nothing comes
out oh wow yeah or you
you know i've done one of these like and they go under your jacket yeah i know
i've seen people do
that about the movie theater that is that is not approved behavior so i do not
condone that you know
it's okay i can handle not not vaping for eight hours so what's in the gas
station ones when you're
getting that who knows what's in the oil who knows who knows that's maybe what
killed some people early
on in covid you know it might have been bad a lot of thc of course these pre-made
cartridges you just
don't know what's in it it's like no don't don't vape that stuff do not vape
the pre-made things i mean
this is fun you get to learn how to do it it's manufacturing you know it's you
get into i can
really get into it like i got this this diameter silver wire and five you know
you do five um
five loops or six loops for different impedance oh yeah there's a whole i mean
this tank you know this
thing is like it's you try different i have must have 18 different vapes that i've
tried and like
this is the one somebody gave me one at one point in time it was like it was
carrying around a phone
it was like i was carrying around it was the size of your flip phone yeah and i'm
like this is ridiculous
that's me baby that's me i don't want to have another heavy thing in my pockets
or in my fanny
pack it's like yeah no this is this is okay i mean it's all right and then this
thing but you decided
that the phone was too invasive even with the graphene os yeah yeah yeah
because you could still do
everything just not being tracked and and so i used to go to bed you know we go
to bed at the same time
you know we we always watch some stupid like we're in season seven of seinfeld
right now you know so
we'll watch a half hour of stupidity and and then we go to bed and i used to be
on my phone
you know for half an hour scrolling stuff or whatever and then you know okay i'm
tired yeah
because my brain has been working overtime on whatever inputs i'm giving it and
now i'm like well
there's nothing to scroll so i just go to bed and i'm out in three seconds i'm
like i sleep and i sleep
all the way through and i wake up in the morning i'm refreshed i feel good i
don't look at social media
the first hour i'm up i mean on i do bible readings and stuff and devotionals
and my text a buddy of
mine and i'm ready man then do social media in the morning no almost not at all
so when you do it you
do it from a computer yeah you check it out at all yeah and when you do that
one of the questions i had
about that does that do voice to text it can andrew oh that's a game however um
of course when you do
that google is basically keeping your transcript there's a company in austin
called futo wait a
minute so if you just text it doesn't keep your transcript oh i'm sure it does
but if you i'm not
sure what how much of that it does but when you read when you speak into it it
goes to the google servers
the google server then trans transcribes it and sends it back to your phone it's
not happening on
the phone it's happening on google servers and they probably keep all of that
or my voice or whatever
there's a company in austin called futo f-u-t-o and they have an open source
voice-to-text system
that don't keep your transcripts and they're some good guys i've been messing
with that it's not quite as
fast and will that work on that phone yeah yeah you can install it yeah just as
an extra but do you
ever send messages with google voice or with with voices text on that phone you
i've been using futo
oh you have yeah on that yeah yeah yeah so i use it on my phone all the time
like when i'm in my car
i press the little button to so that goes here yeah so i'm yeah you know who
knows what apple's doing
or that you don't know i mean sending it right to china all the memes maybe
maybe i don't know it's all
right it's okay yeah so i went to boston you live in boston didn't you so we
went to go see the doobie
brothers and when was this last year really they're a lot they're around yes
and it was wild it was it
was in massachusetts it was one of these um you know like amphitheaters that's
half covered and we
were the youngest people there and people were sparking weed you could smell
the whole place they're like
80 year old dude smoking doobies it was amazing and the doobie brothers play
and it was like what
this it was the first 45 minutes is them doing this is from our album from five
years ago dude we want
china grove you know you know give us long train running so eventually they get
into that but then
they would like michael mcdonald's what a fool believes you know i love that
song he would do it
syncopically like what instead of doing the song like we all remember it you do
what a fool believe
like no no don't do that it was really disappointing but the opening act was
steve winwood steve winwood's
now almost 80 years old and i get goosebumps just thinking about it he railed
he wailed he did you know
mr fantasy from traffic sure which that three quarters of that song is uh
guitar solo and he's
just like and go and the crowd is going nuts and he has all these young kids
with him and you see
the close-up on the screens and they're like dude look at look at what he's
doing it was amazing
i bring it up because the next day did you give it up to plymouth did i go to
play yeah massachusetts
plymouth rock right so plymouth rock is kind of disappointing because it's like
it's a rock
it's just a rock and there's a structure around it and like okay you know it's
a rock and there's a
little sign next to it that says um we don't know that this was really the rock
but some guy in church
who was 90 years old at the time said yeah i think this was the rock so that's
the rock
you were talking about the georgia guidestones a few episodes ago with somebody
did you know that
we have an actual guidestone in america in plymouth no it's called the monument
to the forefathers
i'd never heard of this it's about two blocks in and it's i think arguably the
largest granite
structure in the in america certainly but maybe in the world it was completed
in 1890 and it is
the guide stone of america and how do i not know about this no one knows about
this this is clear
check it out the thing is huge whoa and it's literally in a in a cul-de-sac a
residential area
really there's no how old is that it was completed in 1890 after 50 years of
building it wow and so
this is the formula for america this is why it's going before our pee break the
formula for america this
so they constructed this so that if we ever lost our way we could find our way
back you know when
they talk about america was built on christian values like what does that mean
what does that
even mean christian values i mean even the word christian is like that was
actually a slur back
in the day that they came up with for jesus believers so in the middle is faith
that's her
name faith and it's four sides and one is uh law education morality and liberty
and has all these
cool inscriptions it's really something amazing to see and i believe that's the
formula that we need
to get back you actually you live like this you're joe rogan lives these four
sides you live you understand
law morality education and liberty and if we can get back to that you know that
would be just an in fact
so all of our all of our early presidents all of them live by the bible every
single one of them they
they wrote about it they studied it 1778 the first act one of the first acts of
a congress was to print a
bible for everybody so i brought you this is done by a group called the wall
builders and david barton
he has all this these are the receipts so that's it's a bible but it has three
quarters of that book
is writings by our early presidents all the way up through uh through reagan
and this david barton guy
he has all of these originals i think he lives in alito texas and it shows you
what our code
was in the early days up until the 60s and that's when you know we got this big
argument about oh we
can't have you know you know the whole light the first amendment is the right
to establish a religion
and that has been perverted throughout the years to say well you can't have you
know the bible in
schools and the government can't tell you to do this and you can't be talking
about they used to the
the hall of congress used to be a church i mean that that's how we started and
you don't have to
necessarily be a believer or saved by jesus just to understand where we came
from and the basic
tenants of law where those guys created it from you know the receipts are in
the declaration of
independence our our bill of rights our amendments our rights not that the
government gives us
you know they all say the government shall not infringe the government may not
do this it's what the
government could not do because we had rights given to us by our creator and i
think if we got back to
a little bit of that in america we might get a bit more on path which is why
certainly all the all the
jesus freaks are like president god president trump is talking about god he
says god saved him to to save
america i mean this is a president is a big deal when he does stuff like that
and you can see just look at the
people around us russell brand um tucker carlson uh candace owens i mean there's
a lot of people who
are now starting to see this and i know you love history that's why i bought
that for you because
when you see where it comes from a lot of things start to be clear and that
that sculpture that was
like i had no idea it was there i'd never heard of it it's not in any books but
it's kind of a template for
where we came from and i think it's it's kind of important that we look at that
as well as you know
all the other things that we're looking at now with ai and social media and we
can't just be sitting
around for four years going yeah trump yeah elon you know stomp the libs we've
got to find some
spirituality one way the other it doesn't have to be god i would like it to be
but people got to find that
i think uh you're saying some wise things i think that people need some sort of
a moral and ethical
structure to live their life through jordan peterson always has this thing like
another one whether or
not if you believe in god if you live like you believe in god you follow but
you will live a better
life and that is true i believe it i think that's true i believe it absolutely
and it's it's a moral
scaffolding yeah it's very simple things you know it's the ten commandments
aren't that hard you
know it's like that's your that's your law if you believe that government i
mean government is an
extension of of god if you believe that he in in states governments and i think
that um i think that
god gave us joe biden for four years i really do he said y'all got to take a
look he has humor too by the
way like you got you should take a look and there's a story um uh i think it's
daniel about king nebuchadnezzar
and king nebuchadnezzar he did not follow uh god's law and so god turned him
into a donkey basically
and he and he was out grazing for seven years eating grass i'm like that sounds
a lot like president
biden that he just turned him into a grass-eating donkey who had nothing left
you know so this um
well you have to see what happens when things go sideways to really understand
it that's why people
who grow up in poverty really can appreciate success a lot more than someone as
a trust fund kid
right of course you have to know what it's like when things go bad and our
country just experienced
four years of being governed by people other than the elected leader and it's
pretty clear now yeah and
and you know the way mike johnson laid it out that biden didn't know what was
in some of the
executive i didn't sign that yeah oh it's kind of crazy crazy man i mean it's
it's interesting because
some of that like how much can you attribute it to faulty memory and how much
of it is actually
they passed things by his desk i don't know but at the end of the day we got to
see that this was
not a good direction this is a terrible direction i think that was like one of
the biggest mistakes
that kamala harris did was when she went on the view and they asked her what
would you do differently
and she said nothing yeah which is crazy but also look at president trump i
mean can you take a more
wrong guy in the auspices and the opinion of presidential and everything and he
learned a lot
during his first term i mean this was a turnaround of epic proportion epic
proportion that and and i know
what's the biggest political comeback is in the history of the world it'll be
in the history books
this show will be a part of that um it is going to be incredibly important for
us to look back on this
because you know um like it's it's often the misfits you know that's that's who
we've got to love the
most so when i see the blue-haired people i'm like right i really want to love
them you know they
probably well i understand it but crazy chaotic energy if they just found
something they loved and pushed it into
that they'd be better off but it's also it's like what damaged them up into
that point like what kind
of a life did they live that left them in this place where they're 35 years old
weeping in front
of a city council meeting like who are they and what what what wrong and this
is the thing is like we
kind of encourage this victim mentality we do and we reward it it has social
credit to it and you you
you know you get to be in a special class of people and you get to say
outrageous things and and
people allow you to and that's not good for anybody just like you have kids you
know what it's like
yeah it's not good for kids like you got to tell them like well that's not real
you can't do that
that's not yours like there's things that you have to learn and if you reward
victim mentality then
people look to become victims and so that like when that lady laid out all of
her physical ailments
and all of her problems as if it is as if that makes any of the things she's
saying make sense
because she has all these problems like no that's not that's not how the world
you're right it's been
rewarded and it's been rewarded by political operations mainly to get votes and
to bring these people have a
vote too you know right they can vote so bring them in this is a part of the
psyop of usaid
and the psyop of just the government in general these control control
structures that are essentially
put in place to make sure that they remain in power you know john perkins yes
have you ever
had him on no i have not oh man because he wrote about this you know economic
yeah confession of economic
hitman wow i mean basically usaid that's what they do but also state department
so you know marco rubio
seems like a good guy i'm kind of liking him but there's they've got
intelligence units inside there
there's all kinds of things that happen with state department so i hope that
also gets uncovered well
mike benz was explaining yesterday i was like this is seems so intertwined like
how are you gonna what
what can be done in four years he goes no this is going to take 50 years more
he's like that may be
true it's gonna take forever to unwind because you have to understand how deep
these tentacles go and
he laid it out in four and a half hours yesterday wow i probably talked for
three minutes for the
whole podcast i'm not kidding it was just with mike he got it like yeah can i
get the transcript of
this show and go over it slowly because he goes well he's he goes fast the
thing that will happen is
viral clips of specific things that he highlights and says that are very
significant are going to go
out yeah those are already out and i'm sure they're all over x right now as we're
speaking
and i love that uh doge is i was skeptical because you know we heard this
during the reagan administration
reagan wasn't going to do all this he was going to make government efficient
and of course it didn't
um when i hear that they're going to do the same thing to the military amen man
yeah well they have
to be accountable to to an audit yes you can't they haven't done one ever well
the pentagon's failed
seven of them and the the thing is like fraud's real we know it's real and we
know people are pilfering
and if you go unchecked for long enough that becomes a part of the way people
do business
and once that's established and it's been established for decades then it's
very difficult
to stop because as soon as you start investigating it people go to jail and so
they're going to try to
stop you from investigating it they're going to they're going to try to like
bury records and
it's going to get wild as i'm sure mike told you and i can't wait to see it
it's not just fraud it's it is the actual system instead of us being open and i
think like trump
is doing like hey we're just going to have tariffs on you nato you don't like
it boom we're not going
to protect you um you know we're going to be fair about this you can't just be
ripping us off
we've been doing all these subversive things with money that's just going to ngos
and non-profits i
mean the whole ukraine thing he highlighted all of this did he did he play the
victoria newland
recorded phone call no he didn't my show showed the biden thing where he said
you know the the
prosecutor had to be fired or they wouldn't get the billion dollars in loans
right right and son of a
bitch well victoria newland in 2014 the russians i think they released it they
recorded a phone call
and she's literally talking to the ambassador okay we want to put this guy in
the government that guy
in the government this guy in senate klitsch leave him outside he can be the
mayor or whatever
i mean that's that's not cool we have some stuff to repent for when all this
comes out and we should
pick ourselves up and move forward and just be honest i think we i think we can
do it with a lot
of honesty too i hope so um but the problem is there's a lot of people that are
going to be in deep
trouble and they're going to try to stop that from all this accountability was
mike bullish or bearish
on it well he's you know he's in the storm you know it's like you know no one
knows exactly what's
going to happen when you're in the middle of the hurricane you're telling
people what's going on
and that's where he is right now i mean i asked him how do you sleep because i
don't
he needs prayers he needs some prayers i'm sure he needs that we'll cover him
and i think his
uh his fight is very noble and he's right he's right and he's accurate and the
the amount of
information that guy's got in his head is astounding yeah and uh he can he's
pulling it all off the top
of his head while we're talking because he lives this constantly yeah you know
used to work in the
state department uncovered all the stuff's been chasing it down forever and it
is a you know
legitimate historian on this and thank you for giving him that platform he's
and thank you for giving
trump a platform and all the things you've done but the people when they think
of cia and you know these
types of agencies they always think you know dart guns and you know secret
stuff but no it's really
subversive writing articles and my whole family kind of comes from military and
intelligence
background so i've heard you know what i learned this is crazy so my uncle was
big in the cia he was he
was the national he was basically tulsi gabbard to uh bush senior when he was vp
and then you know like
uh iran contra happened and you know he basically became ambassador to korea
um moved he was exonerated but he was moved out to a different post my my aunt
passed away a couple
years back and when my cousin was doing her eulogy she said aunt meg were
actually outranked uncle don
in the cia she ran the russia desk spoke fluent russian but had promised never
to tell anybody not
even her own kids i'm like what aunt meg spoke fluent russian and ran the russia
desk for the cia and
outranked uncle don like that's some crazy stuff crazy and all those folks you
know they remember
russia as the real real bad guys i mean i went to um this is my own usa id
story so in 1988 i think it
was we had the moscow music peace festival do you remember that no um and this
is before the wall came
down and it was uh i was the only mtv person who went we went on a 727 from newark
it was ozzy osbourne
uh basically black sabbath it was uh bon jovi motley crew skid row we stopped
in germany to pick up
the scorpions what was that flight like dude so here dude dude this you'll love
this oh yeah there you go
wow so the reason you're filming things even back then so the reason this
happened was look at you
yeah yeah there you go tico torres from bon jovi i mean so doc mcgee who was
the manager of bon jovi
and motley crew his i'm i'm paraphrasing the story but i'm pretty sure it's
correct that was ozzy
i just realized that was ozzy and sharon osborne like who are those people look
at look at sharon
look at sharon she's like a a kid and like a british house frow nice roly-poly
she's not the
no o-face for her so o-face oh yeah so look at ozzy
so doc mcgee's learjet had been caught smuggling in like you know bales of of
marijuana into florida
and his get out of jail free card was he was supposed to organize an anti-drug
and alcohol concert in
moscow right so this is where i'm pretty sure usa id came into it and the cia
and so this was supposed to
be a complete drug free alcohol free we're all gonna go there we're gonna do a
huge one night
concert we're there for a week on the plane ozzy is so drunk he he's so drunk
yeah so we're in the
back there and he's he's at the at the laboratory mid mid mid plane and it's
someone else is in there
and he's like sure sure sure and she's like oh and he pees his pants right
there in the aisle
like holy crap ozzy peed his pants this was a wild trip and i got a briefing
beforehand by some dudes
and suits i you know this is 88 so i don't you know i wasn't really thinking
usa id cia and they're
like here's the deal you're going to be there do not talk to any women don't go
to any hookers do
not take any hookers to your room they're all going to be kgb and you know you
don't want any part of
this and there's going to be our people are going to be watching you and just
maybe hookers kgb hookers
we actually did go to the hooker boat which is pretty wild it was a boat yeah
they had a prostitute
boat the ugliest hookers in the world is like nah no one's gonna pirates we all
we all kind of went
to go check them out we're we're in the hotel they literally this is you know
soviet union still they
literally turned on the heat in that part of the city was winter and the the
mattresses were made of
straw and you had to bribe the lady for a phone call you'd reserve it 24 hours
in advance you have
to give her tuna fish and toilet paper rolls it was wild middle of the night i'm
with sebastian
bach from skid row we're outside we go to red square we're drinking vodka on
red square at
three in the morning walk back to the hotel there's the moscow hell's angel
show up and they're on like
these yugoslav motorcycles and they're popping wheelies and falling off and we're
like what's
going on then this this russian official comes up with he had the really big
hats and he's like
tap tap tap on the back of one of the merch trucks and all he wanted was t-shirts
and so you
know he gave him a whole bunch of t-shirts everybody leaves crazy so we have
this concert and the kids
are go they went nuts of all the bands bon jovi motley crew ozzy they all knew
ozzy they could they
were all singing phonetically they you know cries is high they didn't know the
words you know but the
crazy train kind of came out of their mouth and and what was look at this yeah
it was in you can see
all the give me some volume there's some military in front i think there it is
look at that flying
fans stood in harmony for 12 hours to watch and listen to the likes of bon jovi
motley crew and
skid row who all agreed to play wow so here's the kicker the scorpions had a
number one hit winds of
change the winds of change you don't remember the song and it was the only song
they did not write
and that song was the anthem when the wall came down which happened literally
oh here you go the c
did the cia write a power ballot to bring down the ussr what yep is that real i
think so i think so i
don't remember that song can we play some of that song and cut it out jamie
play it for us and cut it
out we'll cut this part out of the show folks just go listen to scorpions what
a shame man we could
be psyoping more germans 1990 yeah yeah it's a good song yeah a cia writes hits
baby that's crazy the cia
wrote a banger a huge banger a huge and the crate here's the funniest part so
when the wall comes down
this is number one like you know it was 1990 and and i think i can't remember i
think they might have
been phonetically singing along with it in lennon stadium when we were there
because it was it was a
number one hit it was everywhere this song this is a year before the wall this
is the song was written
uh after the concert like in response to the okay yeah okay there you know i
told you i don't have it
all right but but but the cia wrote the cia wrote they had probably had it in
the archives oh my god the
funniest thing was so huge in europe at the time was baywatch you know you know
the whole have you
ever had hasselhoff on no there's a funny guy this guy he's he was on fear
factor oh i mean celebrity
did you like him yeah he's a nice guy i mean i've met him a couple times you
know he had to go to
the bathroom a lot at the time but you know whatever you know mtv beach house
like his manager be like
david i think you need to go to the bathroom to get some energy oh yeah anyway
um but so you know the
story of baywatch is phenomenal because he self-financed it nobody wanted it in
america
and he became this monstrous global hit everywhere except america in the
beginning and you know he
became wildly successful rich and germany is where it was number one it was
just for years number one
baywatch and so hasselhoff or as they say der hoff is hello deutschland here's
the hoff everyone knew him
he was standing on top of the wall with a sledgehammer and he claims that he
brought down the berlin wall
was baywatch a psyop is that what you got not i don't know oh my god well this
is also part of
the thing that mike ben's got into with the music business that they do sort of
finance these you
know disruptive kind of songs and political movements sure of course of course
i mean yeah yeah it's a
powerful tool that's that um the book about laurel there he is there he is he's
bringing down the wall
what is he saying oh he was a pop star he had disco hits he had these poppy
hits yeah
and freedom baby i did it and he's got this glittering jacket on and everything
awesome american
icon ladies and gentlemen that's not even glittery that's an led jacket like
that jacket's got a
battery oh yeah of course we loved him from knight rider you know oh yeah he
was a cool dude you
i had this we all wanted a kit a kit watch you know which we now have huge
overseas right that's it that
was it was because of baywatch and he had a whole music career going on and oh
yeah oh man good times
in the old days bro good times we had so much fun back in the early days so
crazy that that song was
written by the cia that that laurel canyon thing is really interesting because
i really dismissed it
at first yeah i was like come on the united states but the government didn't
have nothing to do with
the rock and roll movement but kind of seems like they did what is it strange
times in the canyon what
is that book called again is that it yeah something along those lines yeah it's
a weird book man yeah
i read the book and i was like what the like how much of this is you know when
in the 60s when the
agents were infiltrating uh europe it was it was all literature art music they
were bringing everything
they could art especially you know just and that was really at the time to make
sure that scenes
inside the canyon to make sure that the russians didn't take over europe you
know there's all these
all these things that they were doing well they also did it with the modern art
movement absolutely
everything like jackson pollock yeah complete creation which totally makes
sense because i was like
who's paying for this help me out yeah no don't you see the way the splatters
are like no that's why
we're all questioning you joe rogan yeah what usa id connections do you have i
think i skipped the
system i think somehow or another they up look at me my whole my whole family's
intelligence and
military i was a pirate radio guy in 1983 what they must have been like this
guy's lost we can't we can't
we can't use him he'll be no good i mean the real kooky people probably think
you're my handler or
something because you created that's right because there is that thought that
like this is one of the
things that comes up now all the time and we talked about this on cnn we're
saying that there's a whole
financed impact right-wing ecosystem that's created these podcasts where's my
check well this this is
just stupidity this is the problem where when you look at some conspiracies you
think oh well that
applies to all things yeah that no there's actually some things that are
organic for some weird reason
what what i think we'll see um you know the first thing after the election is
we need a joe rogan on
the left we need a joe rogan well you know guys you basically had a joe rogan
on the left but you
were so crazy that joe started to think right they didn't want me that was the
thing like they didn't
want you but it's that's all the psyop working against them because in the past
they could take
someone like me and demonize them and it would be effective and they could just
remove you from the
airwaves right and then remove you as a problem because you're not playing by
the rules but now
people go oh you know what i think he's the one who's actually telling the
truth let's stop listening
to them and so then cnn crashes and then faith in mainstream media crashes and
faith in podcasts
rises i think what we'll see though is and it may come from youtube we'll
probably see them try to
hype someone up to become the joe rogan of the left oh they're already
definitely doing that
who do you think it is i don't care let them try all right but the thing is it's
not going to work
unless that person's authentic without authenticity doesn't work if you hear a
person long enough you
know what the they're really saying you know whether or not that's right you
know i'm wrong all the
time i'm you might not agree with me that's all great but i'm not going to lie
and that's the
difference and there's a lot of these people are just propagandists and they're
also trying to
make an argument for something without looking at the other side which instantaneously
i know now
you're propagandizing now you're not you're now you're bullshitting me i always
try to look at the
other side of everything i know you do as a human i think it's an important
quality as a person who's
like broadcasting to millions of people it's a very important quality but it's
an important quality for
human beings like know why you think about something like no is this just a
knee-jerk reaction or is this
well thought out is are you being objective or are you trying are you captured
by this ideology that
you're a part of to the point where you're just ignoring like this is the thing
that i find
fascinating about all this usaid stuff because there's so many people that are
so against donald trump
dismantling the organization that they're not looking at the craziness of all
the propaganda that's
being exposed they somehow or another are gaslighting themselves and all their
followers to say that no
this is aid people are going to starve to death there's food that's rotting
meanwhile they i think
i'm pretty sure even when they passed this thing where they were trying to put
a stop on usaid they
gave exemptions for food and medicine yeah and certain yeah so you're hearing
these bullshit stories
of like food that's rotting now people are going to go starving everyone's
dying of aids like
well you have figures who people see as authority because they have a million
followers and likes
and then they'll they'll believe that and it typically doesn't work i mean it's
like you remember it works
but it works for less people there's people that want clearly they want to be
lied to they want to
believe the cult they want to drink the kool-aid they they want to yeah and
that is where they've dug
their heels in and now this is where they they stay but when you see rachel maddow
who has come back you
know for the first hundred days she's doing a show every single day and she's
blatantly lying i mean
literally like factually clearly lying a lot of people won't watch anything you
know they've been
told uh joe rogan is part of the bro casting and you know the the this right-wing
conspiracy all funded
by whatever to you know to propagandize and people are going to go over there
and they're going to believe
what she says and i mean i have family members who who truly believe that
president trump will take
away their social security like he's saying quite the opposite and by the way
he can't take it away
only congress can take it away usaid created by executive order by president
kennedy can be shut by
executive order by president trump that's just a fact also what they're doing
is they're highlighting
there's people that are supposedly 150 years old that are getting social
security awesome i need some of
that there's some weird shit going on with social security but you know what
happened this i think
this is this is what we're not being told but i have a lot of sysadmin friends
from what i understand
the doge team four guys initially they were in so the treasury is like our bank
account is you know
it's just it's one system and it sends payments through the federal reserve
system and that all they
needed to do january 21st at midnight they were in there they got all the
payments they've had that at
mar-a-lago they've been you know because i've heard this that they've been
going through it like hey
there's no reconciliation there's there's just a payment with no no purchase
order or no confirmation
that the work was done i think at this point they're just sitting back going
huh you know they can
they can release more information whenever they want department of education is
going to be next
you're going to see a lot of common core craziness i mean remember that common
core
um the pentagon um i hope they do the state department too because there's a
lot going on
there it's going to be interesting they have a resistance well the people who
are squealing are
the ones you want to pay attention right well that's the thing is that first of
all the one we were
talking about this the other day with me and my friends are saying part of the
problem is these
people can't conspire right now because all their phones are tapped everybody
that for sure yeah like
if they're investigating you if they're investigating these things like the the
power that they have is
astronomical it's crazy the power that they have to look into people's emails
look into people's
phones find out what text messages they're sending they can look into your
signal pegasus baby
yeah they look into everything so the the idea that they're not doing that if
they're in the
middle of some multi-trillion dollar investigation into rampant fraud so they
know that this is going
on so they can't conspire and then they also have to worry about people taking
deals
so there's going to be some people that squeal good point and so then you don't
know who's
your fucking enemy and who's your friend and everywhere you talk you go to have
a lunch with
someone he's wearing a fucking button camera yeah you could be and so they're
not united right now
yeah and this is why it's working and this is why they're able to release all
this information and
everybody's in this hot panic right now yeah so they're squeezing them they're
squeezing them because
they they have it all and thank god for james o'keefe too man he's he's done
some interesting
stuff over the he certainly has over the years you know he's like gets people
to it's amazing how
many guys will open up when they think they're on a date with a hot chick or a
hot guy whichever
whichever one that happens to be and like oh yeah oh hey man i'm doing all this
yeah we do oh we don't
care we we just hated trump and you know it's like whoa these people they need
to learn how to shut up i think he just got
another video that he released today oh yeah there was another video today
about people going around
the doge system to try to like still still do the same work bro well there wasn't
there there was an
issue with season of reveal joe yeah wasn't there an issue with fema releasing
is this true well so fema
paid 59 million dollars for illegal uh illegal entrance into our country for
them to stay at the roosevelt hotel
which is double the the room rate have you ever stayed at the roosevelt hotel i
did way back in
the day and the roosevelt hotel by the way is owned by pakistan that's right
yeah it was a dump it was
everyone was smoking weed in their rooms i mean i was there maybe 10 years ago
11 years ago i stayed at
the roosevelt hotel it was falling apart it was oh it was very cheap you know
right there on 42nd street
yeah um so they were paying double the room rate but this wasn't this isn't
just in in in the united
states this has been happening all over the world this is a gigantic scam four
federal employees were
fired tuesday over payments to reimburse new york city for hotel costs for
migrants department of
homeland security officials said the workers were accused of circumventing
leadership to make the
transactions which have been standard for years through a program that helps
with costs to care for
a surge in migration however officials did not give details on how the four had
violated any policies
uh but they they put a freeze on the payments he said luxury hotels it was kind
of funny yeah in quotes
so did they definitely do it so far so so i yeah and it wasn't anderson cooper
disputing it i don't
he was saying yesterday yeah he was talking to sununo and he called him a dick
but just don't be a dick
go to chicago all the hotels on on the miracle mile are all um all migrant
hotels yeah because it was
super good money i mean crazy but that's everywhere in the world that's the
same in europe a big hotel
change like you can't get a hotel room because they've got migrants for double
the price well this is also
something that the biden administration lied about because they said that fema
funds were not being
used for this but they were i'm with president trump that it's better you know
when um when helene
happened what happened there was really beautiful because every everything fell
down um even the own
you know north carolina's uh um their uh their own state government no one
really was doing anything
and it was funny enough for the first time i've ever seen ham operators
actually be successful
um but you know the helicopter guys were all going out there everybody was
pitching in people were
driving from all different states to come in and help people i mean i i don't
have a helicopter anymore
but i literally called up the airfield i said fill them up here's my credit
card fill that one fill
just fill them up fill up until you know until this limit that i have fill up
the fill up these hell i know
what it costs you burn a lot of money in a helicopter this was this is how america
works it really works
well when we help each other out in all kinds of circumstances and we've become
so reliant on the
government so reliant that you know uncle sam is going to come in and save us
and it turns out
they're not really efficient at it they're not really good at it a lot of money
gets stuck and
flows to other places we've got to come back to loving our neighbor and and
knowing your neighbor
how many people don't even know their neighbor anymore right this is critical
this is and i think
you have this you know when when clinton was president everything changed in
america all of a sudden
oh that's not sexual relations oh you can do that to me baby that's not
actually sex you know all these
kinds of things that sets a tone it sets a cultural tone and trump is setting a
cultural tone of let's
get this done let's let's stop getting ripped off by other people by ourselves
and let's be successful
together and it's a short amount of time so i hope that but isn't it
interesting that half the country
doesn't see it that way well unless the country sees it as a constitutional
crisis well that's just
that's just a term it's not a i know but it's interesting that's what's being
top fema official
is fired over payments new york city migrants shelters trump administration
fired the federal
emergency management agency's chief financial officer and three others after elon
musk misleadingly
claimed the agency had used disaster relief funds for migrant services wait a
minute is this new
york times this is just going to be back and forth back and forth forever
misleading what is misleading
about it so let's see here new york city officials raced to clarify that the
federal money had been
properly allocated by fema under president biden last year adding that it was
not a disaster relief
grant and had not been spent on luxury hotels nonetheless just two hours after
mr musk's post
fema's acting director cameron hamilton announced the payments in question have
all been suspended
even though most of the money had already been dispersed and that personnel
will be held accountable
but is this a recent payment and did they put a freeze on payments even if the
payment had been properly
allocated by biden what i was reading is they just pulled the money out of uh
bank accounts
who did it says trump administration trump revokes 80 million dollars from new
york city after threat
i'm seeing this on multiple websites but i don't see can you go to the title
there on daily news
oh hold on a second you just had it there that's right here too oh uh trump revokes
80 million
dollars from new york city after threat to clawback fema cash used to care for
migrants but it's still
it's still money to care for migrants and they still put a freeze on that money
to care for migrants
that's your constitutional crisis yeah we're in a constitutional crisis because
of what's happened to
our country but that's that seems like gaslighting to justify spending 80
million dollars to pay for
migrants which they shouldn't have done no but it's not just that it's fly
these people there
fly them into the country let them into the country and then pay for them with
ebt cards with
well a lot of that was the economics yeah i have a friend former new york
banker and he said we always
win as long as our population is growing we will beat china long term because
their population is
declining and he says that's why the borders are open is because we need you
need it's just like
economics you need more people and with more people your economy grows one way
or the other i think it's
a multi-faceted argument because i think that i'm just telling you what the
what the bankers i think
there's some truth to that but i think also they were trying to buy votes that
yeah i mean all of
that's a part of it well you saw the thing in new york where they were trying
to let people who are
illegals vote in regional yes yeah so that's your constitutional crisis right
that is a constitutional
crisis here's the thing that i hope and i'm working to make this happen so we
have great podcasts you
know your your podcast there's we can't not everybody can be a joe rogan and we
can't just all be looking
at national news what has happened at a local level is radio stations you know
they all got bought up
they're all you know consolidated no one has local programming anymore there's
almost no local
newspapers even local television stations they're all going away now is the
time to create a podcast
for your town your burg your city your community wasn't gavin newsom doing that
like right after the
election didn't he start a podcast well i don't know about gavin newsom that's
not i think he did i
think that was their idea to try to combat the podcast like this we don't need
that we need local
voices you know um all the advertising locally has been slurped up by by
facebook you know that's where
you advertise i've started i've started a local a local thing in fredericksburg
and people really
love it they look oh wait a minute there's something going on in fredericksburg
and all they have is
fredericksburg rant and raves on a facebook page well you imagine what a mess
that thing is that's crazy
that's no good ransom right now that's no good and so i'm actually i started a
thing called godcaster.fm
and uh it's it's tailored towards helping radio stations do this but i think
churches are
content factories and they're not just all talking about jesus and god they're
doing stuff in the
community that's what that's what churches used to do you know and they're
doing stuff at the high
schools and you got kids in there i want a thousand podcasts you know within a
year all over america of
local people and it's so easy to do now it's become so possible and i think
that local communities will
even sponsor it that's the next level that's my phase two that's the next level
we have to get to
is where people just get a microphone talk to your city council person you know
it's this is nuts
all all it is is national news presented by heads on television and who needs
that nonsense right
you know and you're an you're an exception and you're really important but we
need to have this
at a local level and it's never been a better you want to start a podcast and
be able to actually
make a living out of it in your local community i guarantee people will support
it i guarantee
people will want to be a part of it and i hope that that happens that's that's
what i'm dedicating
myself to now that's awesome getting these local hyper local podcasts that's a
great idea yeah i think
what you're saying is all of it's hopeful right i'm very hopeful yeah of course
of course which is
great i mean because being cynical kind of sucks you know especially when this
really is a very unique
time of possibility there's a lot a lot of things are happening right now yeah
it's a perfect time
and it also feels like even to the people that didn't want what donald trump is
doing the idea
to keep going with what was happening before where you had someone running for
president that never
went through the primary you know constitutional crisis that's a real right
there yeah the soft coup
against biden all that it that should disturb you that that didn't well it
should be good that that
didn't work because that's not good for anybody because if they can keep doing
it that way then
you never have a primary again well primaries of course up to the party it's
not necessarily a
constitutional thing but that should tell a democrat people who vote democrat
and are part of i've never
been a part of a party i'm not that interested i vote for people um but that
should tell them something
like yeah there's something bad going on here yeah there's some shenanigans
going on they could have
had a primary like what was it like in dc when you went for the inauguration
was it just like
show business for ugly people there are a million people all over the place
million people all over
the place it was was it nuts nuts it was weird you know i did a lot yeah very
weird because you go into
i went to a lot of these things i went to a few of these things like these dinners
and stuff the balls
yeah and it's a lot of people that donated a lot of money and so the it's very
transactional and
everybody's hyper aggressive to get photographs and talk to people and they
they interject themselves
into conversations interrupt stand right in front of people that you're talking
to and want pictures
or want to introduce themselves and it's it's very entitled and very transactional
and but i think
that's always been the nature of politics particularly people the reason why
they were there is because
they donated a substantial amount of money a million bucks a poppy yeah go
which is nuts like how much
how do this many people have a million dollars to donate this is crazy amazing
isn't it a lot of
people got a million bucks it's like it's all that usa id money i don't know
what it is but it's well
there are a lot of successful people in the world who have that who couldn't
access that kind of cash but
wow but there's a lot of hope it was a very positive obviously because the
winners were all there
but it was it was a very optimistic vibe which felt good and even the speech
when he gave his
inauguration speech i mean that was pretty wild i love the i love the black
pastor from detroit yeah he
was channeling mlk he was just like going crazy it was all what you were
sitting maybe like five rows
behind hillary clinton did you smell sulfur i smelled everything i saw bill i
made eye contact with bill
me and bill staring at each other for a while he's he's larger than life even
though he's kind of frail
now i mean he still is well it's just imposing they're in the room with you
yeah you know it's like
they're it's a different kind of a celebrity was this like i remember when i
went to see the rolling
stones and coda i was blown away i'm like mick jack is right there like that's
actually him and
he's dancing and he's this big his butt's that that's why he's a stick yeah but
it's he's right
you know he has two trailers that he brings with them that are just a gym oh it
doesn't surprise me
two of his trades he works out every day what is he like 78 he's a thousand
years old and he had a
open heart surgery and all recently yeah yeah recently had heart surgery that's
amazing guy
really truly is just loves it man and they put on a hell of a show but my point
is like that's one of
those things you're like i can't believe that's really him and that's what it's
like when you're
like looking over there you're like holy that's george w bush do you think it
was the real biden or
the daddy long legs biden i think it was a real one okay i think because you've
seen the daddy long
legs he wasn't too tall yeah yeah it was like that one guy was nuts and he's
jogging to the helicopter
i'm like nuts like i want to know the story about that like is that there's
there any paperwork on who
that guy actually was i'd love that was not joe biden that's a guy with a mask
on the mask things
are real i can tell you that i can tell you this from family talk from family
experience you can see
them online oh from family experience yes yeah uh in 1967 let's just leave the
family members out of it
but someone brought home a colleague from work and the colleague had dinner and
had coffee and then
at dessert the wife was sitting there had been talking to this person and then
this colleague
took off his mask and it was someone who the wife knew extremely well and had
no idea 1967.
whoa so imagine what they can do now the stuff that that cia light lady shows
on the youtube video
yeah that's i think that's just old i mean it's amazing 67 that stuff already
existed and worked how
come they couldn't get somebody biden's height you know that's tina says that
too i said you know
they just didn't care at that point just like they needed someone who had his
cadence which i think is
harder to do to to be kind of you know like that stumbling bumbling also like
how many people do
you bring this to like you know what is that guy doing now he needs a podcast i
mean he's he's got
no guys he's a bottom of the ocean what gig does he have took that guy fishing
i hope not but it's
it's possible yeah so there's no there's a lot of that going on i mean we've
spotted throughout the
years hillary clinton had i know she had a double uh there was actually women
who noticed it like
she's carrying her handbag on the other shoulder it's like no woman switches
that up
that never happens and you look at her like yeah she does look a little
different but it's also
isn't that a mind though because then you start looking at everybody like that's
not the real one
are you joe rogan yeah who's what happened who is it yeah it's pretty crazy
stuff yeah i hope
i hope some of that comes out too but you know it would be great to know these
things it would
it would be great to stop lying yeah yeah you should stop lying basically you
should not have a fit i
mean is there some sort of national security explanation that you could give
for why you
would have to have a fake president well i mean holy moly have you ever seen
the kevin klein movie
uh right yeah i mean there it is there's your was it no no like the dog uh dave
dave yeah yeah exactly
yeah i mean sure i mean this this happens all the time these things bizarre
yeah who knows you know
but again season of reveal we're learning things we won't learn everything but
we will become a lot
wiser i'm i'm convinced of it and i'm excited i am 60 years old and super
excited and very bullish on
the future uh particularly of the united states and i'm seeing the influence we're
having in europe i'm
seeing it people like we don't want this it's a tougher for them like the uk
they don't really
have a first amendment like we do right so it's like you hurt someone's
feelings on facebook you're
going to jail i mean so they they got a lot of work to do um but you know i
think germany has a shot
you know i think uh the netherlands has geared builders uh france are really
pushing back hard on on
le pen and and uh right-wing people victor orban and hungary i mean there's
there's a there's at a certain
point the people will just not take it anymore and it could get ugly over there
but they people are
people i mean we've had revolutions ourselves we've been pretty good at it yeah
you know of course we
got guns you know that was a smart move founders yeah smart move first and
second amendment we're both
the second amendment is there to protect the first as far as i'm concerned you
know and i i am i'm
bullish i really am i'm excited joe i am too oh good all right good well thank
you brother it's always
great to sit with you joe thanks for starting this whole thing no brother thank
you so much for what
you do brother thank you jamie appreciate you guys so much um tell everybody
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