#2077 - Tim Dillon

Let's go, Tim Dillon. How are you, sir? I'm good now. Look at that coat. Thank you for having me. It's raccoon. I went to a furrier in New York, two little old Jewish guys. And they go, we don't have anything in your size, like a sable or a chinchilla or any of the high end. But then the one of the little guys goes, we may have a raccoon in the back. And he came out with this. And this is a raccoon, but he was explaining it's from Finland. Like these raccoons are Finnish. Is that the actual color of the fur? Did they dye that? I think it's like a blonde, almost like a grizzly hair. I think the raccoons in Finland are have different colors perhaps hmm let's google that yeah what does the raccoon look like in Finland is that a different animal? what do they call them? they call them dumpster dogs or something um trash pandas? trash pandas that's it you know and uh... I like a raccoon too but I also like fur I think people should be allowed to wear fur. Well, it is weird that you're allowed to kill animals and eat them. Why are they called a raccoon dog? Oh, so it is kind of similar to the cook. I typed in fill in raccoon and it just keeps saying raccoon dog. Raccoon dog. See, in Finland they seem to be more tan. Yeah, that looks like your coat. Yeah, that doesn't look like a raccoon. Look, if I saw that, I wouldn't say that's a raccoon. I'd be like, what is that? Yeah, I don't know what it is. It's kind of got a raccoon-y face. Like scroll back up to those images. Like that picture up there, that's a raccoon-y face. But the color of it, I'd be like, what is that? That one looks so weird. That's weird. Yeah. So they call them a raccoon dog. I just typed in. Bro, you got a dog coat on. That's rough. I knew it. I think I've got to take an advantage of it. Hahaha. [2:03] This was it. They kind of looked at each other a few times and this one didn't even have the liner and they put the liner in. Oh, geez. It's a very cheap liner. Oh, they put the liner in. I just went in because I was curious about I don't I don't understand it. I get curious about different things. So these furriers in New York City a lot of them will kick you out if you don't have an appointment. So one of them just said, we can't deal with you. You don't have an appointment. Go. But then these two guys were nice enough to talk to me a little bit. Now I was just asking questions. I'm like, what's the deal? They're like, well, sable is like the top thing. And then they're like, obviously, chinchilla and Chinchilla and Fox. Could they make you a custom porn? You're so absolute. Absolutely. They could absolutely make a custom one, but I wanted something fun to come on here with. Yeah. So I said, I don't really even want one of these. So I just want to do like an impulse buy. Just give me something to buy. Right. I don't want to think about this. And the guy you got the raccoon. And then the guy goes, we have a wreck. I don't know what it is. It could be a costume. Hahahaha right from Boston of course. Yeah. Bill had a mint coat once. [3:26] Yeah. And he let me try it on. I'm like, let me try that on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh my god, it's so warm. It's amazing. It's amazing. There's a reason why people like them. But people get real mad. Oh yeah, they don't like it. But it's also weird. Like, you're Right. What is leather? If your leather is everywhere, everybody wears leather. Leather is just the fur removed. It's all it is. Right. Like, facadile scales. There's a company called Origin. And one of the elk that I shot, we took the hide and had the hide shipped to them. They're gonna turn into boots. [4:00] Yeah. It's good use of leather. Of course. But that's normal nobody gets nobody gets freaked out if they see with leather boots or was in this tired you know more than me but the the Native Americans who respected the you know the the animals and the environment it was all about utilizing every part of the animal yeah they use everything they could and they lived in harmony with them, like, you know, especially like some of these Native American tribes had these relationships where they were migratory with the animals. Right. Like Buffalo and the Comanche, they followed them around, man. And they used all their blankets, they all sorts of things. Yeah. Their TPs, everything. So to me, I don't understand where it became so controversial. Because it's really rich people, flaunting that they can go have someone murder a mink for them. Right. And you're wearing this thing and you've got all these diamonds [5:02] and you're walking in fabulous. It's imbalanced. It's grossly imbalanced. To a degree. A wrapper with like hundreds in your hands. You're throwing up at the top. But somehow I look balanced with nature in this. In an odd way. I don't, you know. I don't even feel like I look rich in this. I look a little crazy. I look like a guy on the brink of something. And not a good thing. The pants on what you like. I look at that. That's a fun guy. That's my initial reaction where I saw you and I was like, this is awesome. It's interesting because it does seem to me, I understand that people are morally against it, but when you start like, I don't know, throwing paint on people. Right. It's kind of crazy. Red paint. I was in Beverly Hills once. They had like outside of a store. They were like chanting. And they were trying to intimidate people walking in the store. It just feels silly. I had a girl tell me once who was upset at the comedy store that I had fur, I had a hoodie with fur around the edges of it. [6:05] And she just like, I don't know where I'm at. I wasn't even talking to her. So like something shitty about the fur. I go, I go, it's fake. I go, it's fake fur. It's like, it's a fucking hoodie. Right. And she goes, I don't like what it represents. What is your weapon? What is wrong with these people? I don't represent this is a long time ago by the way this is not like famous me but I was like this is such a crazy conversation like it's fake fur. I don't understand I understand people that are ethical vegans who say I don't want any type of animal product ever. Okay um I disagree with that and I think a lot of people on earth would disagree with that. I think the human race would go would starve pretty quickly if we couldn't eat any animal product. Yeah, that wouldn't work out well. It is also very complicated because the relationship that we used to have with animals, like the animal [7:04] relationship that you're talking about with the Native Americans, where this tribal relationship, they followed these herds around and hunted them expertly. That is so different than going to Jack in the box. That's true. And that's what most of what our meat is coming from, this weird subversion of like the natural way of getting food. The factory farming. Yeah, I mean, there's never been a time ever where in human history, where people have stuffed so many fucking animals into warehouses and just beheaded them. But because our population has never been greater, right? It's never been bigger. We've never had more of a burden to feed people. Yeah. And it's unfortunate the way that it happens. I mean, we've all seen like the footage of like the chickens that don't get to walk around. That's not good. Not good. Also, I think that up until fairly recently, like fairly recently, [8:03] like within the last couple hundred years, it was unheard of to not grow your own food Right, I think everybody sort of knew that you had to grow some of your own food or hunt some of your own food Well, that's so hard now because how do you do that in Arizona? You don't right like if you live in the desert What kind of water rights do you have right or if you're in Minnesota and it's freezing right? So it's just it becomes difficult to live that I'm sure that's the ideal way to live But the modern world is it's very hard people don't have any time no, you know, no, it's hard and what you know Imagine when it was like before they had trucks Imagine like living in Manhattan in January and 1700 and you can't get an apple. It's insane. There's no fruit. You're not getting any vegetables. Well, it's funny is like there's a show on HPL called the Gilded Age and it's about all these really, you know, like the Robert Barons, like the industrialists. And like they all had these massive staffs of people that would just make them dinners every night. [9:06] Just crazy, like they had entire staffs of like usually Irish chefs and cooks and waiters and everything just to facilitate the meal, the daily meal, like it was very royal and regal and they would have people just there cooking for them and Making their food and it was it's interesting to watch because Haves and the have nots back then that then it was wild like people say it's wild now and it is wild now Because a lot of the halves now can take a spaceship and and you know Take a blunt drive around the globe. That's a. How much carbon does that burn off into the atmosphere? I don't know. I mean, if you want to talk about some of the most ridiculous excesses of carbon use, it's shooting for its people in the orbit. That must be so much gas. It's so nuts. [010:00] But like anything else, right, they'll say, well, it's good for, I guess, the, it incentivizes people to care about space exploration. Right. Because they are going to pay a lot of money to go up there. Right. And that money is going to get utilized to discover more things. I, you know, who knows if that's, it's a weird argument. Yeah. Because like, I feel like, I mean, look, I'm happy that they're exploring space, but I feel like maybe someone should sit down and go, and until you guys figure out a better way to get off the fucking ground. Yeah, let's just chill. If how are we saying no one should burn carbon fuel? How are we saying that you can't have gas powered cars in California after 2035? Yeah. How are we saying that while we're shooting off these giant, fucking metal tubes of jet fuel? It's literally burning in the sky. I think that's the reward when you have a billion dollars is you wanna think you can leave. [011:03] That seems to be the reward. It's these guys going like, we don't have it quite figured out yet, but they're like, God, it might be nice if I could leave. Oh my God, it would be hell. You know, it would be tough. It would be so stupid. The first person that leaves, they're gonna fall into, there's a trap. And here's a trap, just because something's hard to do doesn't mean it's good to do. Right. And you could say it's gonna be so difficult for us to get to Mars, right? Right. Also so difficult for someone to fucking save you. For a reason. Yeah. That's not a good place to go. No. We have spots in Earth that suck. Go visit those. You're making it you out by helicopter if you're lucky. These people want, I think there's that fantasy of like seeding other planets with biological DNA, carrying on the human race. The idea that the earth might be past a tipping point, maybe. I think we have to realize that time does not give a fuck [012:03] about the human race. Time doesn't care. If we got hit by an asteroid and this whole planet got knocked back down into the Jurassic period again, that totally could happen. It's happened before. It's the reason why we're here in the first place, supposedly, right? The Yukaton impact. Well, that happens again time doesn't care do you have a can we can we do anything to the asteroid now that were more advanced they are slowly but surely being able to recognize where they the real problems supposedly i believe is ones that come from unique to near the sun right the problem is the gravity of the sun. I'm sure I'm fucking this up. I'm sorry. I think the gravity of the sun, the mass of the sun is so immense that it's difficult to see objects that are behind it coming towards us. So if something's passing the sun and going towards us, we might not see it until it's too late to do anything [013:03] about it. And then even if we do see it, there's only a few different methods that they've devised that seem to like one of them is you like hit it with a surface like something lands on it. And this changing of the aerodynamics of it like changes its trajectory in some way. And another one is breaking it up. The breaking it up one scares people though, because they're like, well, what if you break it up into many pieces that just go to a bunch of different spots on Earth, and it has the same impact, it's not one spot. Right. You might actually, maybe it would have landed in the ocean and most people would survive. It's amazing that nothing we haven't had a really, and you might know more than I do, but we haven't had a really like destructive asteroid impact in a long time. It's a timeline thing, dude. Our timeline is our lifetime, and it's so long for a person, [014:02] and it's so nothing for space. It's so nothing. It literally is nothing. Our timeline is 100 years for a human timeline. The earth is 4.5 million years old. There's all these arguments now. The universe is even older than 13.7 billion years ago. I'm not really smart enough to understand. It's something about the forming of the galaxies. They seem to form quicker that there wouldn't be possible of the earth was only of the university 13.7 billion years but Brian Keating doesn't agree with it so maybe he's right I don't know who's right but it's either way we're a hundred years of nothing it's so quick and if we get hit with an asteroid and then everything starts and it's another 65 million years from now until the new form of intelligent life arises, the universe doesn't care about them. No, right. Me saying we haven't had a significant impact is like when your 13 year old starts talking about Israel and Palestine. Like they just don't. [015:01] This is, it's, it's, I sound ridiculous because it's literally, I've been on the planet 38 years and I'm like, we haven't had anything. You get, as you get older, you get old enough to realize this hustle. You get, oh, this is a hustle. Like you're pretending like you can do something. You're pretending like you're gonna make a life and leave a mark and all that. You're just moving. And you're gonna make a life and leave a mark and all that. You're just moving. And you're gonna be gone and new people are gonna move into that and everyone's affecting everybody and we're all working towards some weird goal. Right. And some of it involves rockets and computers and we're just building wilder and wilder technology. But I don't know if we can escape before something hits. And I have a feeling that's what's happened many times in the past I think that's the biggest key to the mystery of people and you think that we may have gotten to this point I think we definitely did where people are podcasting and ridiculous coats Yes, and then something comes and ruins it Yeah, and then it takes billions of years to get back to that [016:04] Millions millions to get back to that not really millions I think probably whatever the Egyptians were doing I Think they were the most advanced civilization that ever existed. That's what I think This is I mean, I'm out of line here for sure listen if you're an archaeologist and you're pulling your hair out I get it But I don't think we can do what they did. I think if you just look at it for just the sheer dynamics, the volume of stone that they moved, the precision in which they built it, I really don't think we can do that. Just the symmetry of the faces of the statues is unparalleled and they're immense. These are monstrously huge, perfectly symmetrical faces. Their temples are insanely intricate with 20 ton gigantic stone blocks [017:01] that were taken from a mountain 500 miles away. No one has any idea how the fuck they got nobody has any clue No guests right there's some guesses about oh maybe the river system was different back then whatever How are you getting that? 50-ton chunk of granted out of a fucking mountain and moving it down even with modern equipment? How are you getting it over the mountain? So it seems like you don't even have roads with data. They were incredibly advanced. Incredibly advanced. With math, with science, with technology. Certainly with geometry. They also had an understanding of the cosmos. They definitely had an understanding of the constellations. And that's one of the reasons why the fringe theory is that the Sphinx is way older than what they have it currently dated. That was like 2,500 BC, which is still crazy old, right? But what they think is it's probably older than that, maybe even 10,000 or 30,000 years old, and that at these times in whenever the calendar is aligned properly, whatever the year is, it's like exactly [018:07] where a lion would be staring the constellation Leo. That's mind blowing. To think about that stuff. I don't know if that's true though. That's a weird one. It's like how do we know if like there's from the burning of the library of Alexandria, we lost so much of an understanding of what the Egyptians knew and what they recorded. So there's a lot of weird speculation amongst Egyptologists. Like they look at the old, they have hieroglyphs that show kings that go back 40,000 years. Right. And they look at that as myth. But it means, yeah. So it gets to a certain time and they decide, okay, now this is really, this is too common, this is Ramsey's. Are we talking about biblical times or even we're predating that? Oh, predating that. So we're really predating the biblical times. If they're correct, if these hieroglyphs are real, instead of like saying that they're [019:01] myth because they're talking about kings that ruled the earth 40,000 years ago. When we decided that those people back then were primitive. But if they're right, and if it only existed in a few places on earth, well, that makes sense. That's how it is now. You can go right now. You can go to the Amazon. You see people living like they lived thousands of years ago. And then you can see someone here get hit by a car because they're looking at their phone. That's right. You know, it's like they're both existing at the same time. I think that's probably always been the case with people. There's always been like people that live in Siberia, these nomadic tribal people that are very content just living the same way they've always lived and then there's people that live in San Francisco that have people shitting on their street and fucking shooting up in front of them getting paid. Yeah. So it's interesting you just you've always kind of had that dichotomy of really advanced people and then really You know, I don't want to use a word primitive, but certainly you know these uncontacted tribes and things like that Human beings always have inequality. Yeah, there's always that strata There's always something right and it's whether it's cultural whether it's geographical whether you're trapped on an island [020:01] Like whatever you're always gonna find somewhere on earth, someone who's just way beyond like what we think of as like modern society, like what's acceptable, running what, these people have none of that. Right. These people, they're making their own spears, they're hunting, they have leaves on their dicks. They're killing animals for an asad in necessity. Yeah, the necessity. Because those animals might kill them.icks. They're killing animals for an added necessity. Yeah, the necessity because there's animals might kill them. Yeah. Right. They know what leaves the, have you seen those people? The, I think the waranami is that what they're called in the, Guayana. They throw poison in the water. Have you gone to like, have you gone to Machu Picchu or did Brazil, the Amazon or anything? The only places that I've been to that are really, I just got back from Greece. Yeah. We did Greece as some, that was amazing. Yeah. That's amazing, but that's you're talking like 2,500 years old. That's like a child compared to the pyramids. Yeah, it's really amazing, antiquity and how old things are. [021:02] And then where the line is between what is myth and what is history and trying to figure that out, which is, it's very hard. I think that even the stuff that we think of as like the cradle of wisdom, like what happened in Greece when they were building the Acropolis and the Parthenon and when on and where democracy came from. I think that is like a rebuilding of civilization. That's what I think. And I think if you can go back in a time machine, I bet if you could get to Egypt 25,000 years ago, I bet you'd be fucking blown away. I bet they had some very bizarre, technologically advanced society that had a different path they went down. So we went down the path of engines and computers and that doesn't mean that's the only way to invent technology. That's just the path that we've been on. They had figured out some other stuff. They had figured out if they had hundreds of thousands of years of time to really evolve and become modern humans [022:09] Which is what we think now These to think that people were only around for like 50 thousand years like anatomically modern humans But now they pushed it back to like 200,000 years ago three on it keeps going back right further and further and further So people really did Live that long. It's think about how quick we went from like 1800 to 2023. Yeah, it was saying. It's quick. But the difference in riding around on a fucking wagon being dragged by an animal or some stupid boat, you had to take across the Atlantic. Right. And no one had any idea where the iceberg was. Yeah, to now existing, To now existing primarily in half in and half out of a completely digital universe. Half in, half out connected constantly to your phone. And every book, I'm reading a book now called the Dimensions of a Cave and it's basically about [023:01] what will things look like when we are more fully on that digital platform? Like what constitutes a crime in the digital world? What does war look like when everything's digital? What happens if something like grand theft or people get prosecuted for beating people up? Well, this is what, you know, there's like weird, like ethical questions about like when we're living a lot of our lives on these digital platforms. What is a crime? What is surveillance when everything's surveillance? What are the laws? What are the rules? What are the consequences for breaking them? Can you be cast out of that? Just like the way we debate social media. Now imagine it's even more immersive than social media. It's augmented reality, virtual reality, some form of metaverse, whatever it is. Can we, do we cast you out? Where you can't participate in this thing that everybody else is participating in? And these are interesting questions because people are saying that we'll probably get there quicker than we think. You know, in the space of maybe 10 years or something, [024:13] they're looking at these programs and platforms and going, oh, there's going to be a lot. Like, that's what the AI battle that they had with Hollywood, it seems ultimately a losing battle. that they had with Hollywood, it seems ultimately a losing battle. Like, which is, you know, not something that I love, but ultimately it seems like, look at the trailer for the new GTA. It's pretty amazing. Amazing. Imagine that even better, you know, it seems like there is gonna be a time when we're watching a show of all AI people and enjoying it. And that's just what it is. And maybe we're even feeling like we're involved or immersed in it. Maybe we're sitting there watching a guy get shot or ran over or watching a hooker get killed. [025:00] I don't know. But you know, this is very possible. We could be in the thing. Yeah. I mean, there's people now talking about like, what's this, Jimmy? Uh, this show up on the Twitter recently. I'll fake news a 25 minute news broadcast all day. It's fake. She's even saying it's all generated by AI. Driven insights. Yes, so no one's going to know what's real anymore. I don't think that's real anymore Technology enables us to bring you a global perspective 24-7 right from the heart of our AI yeah, we make it out. Let me listen to what they're saying here It enables us to bring you a global perspective 24-7 right from the heart of our AI Native newsroom all Presented by our team of AI generated reporters presented by our team of AI generated reporters Wait is that a real dude no no way it may be at one point was but This is AI generated movement talking blinking all that oh my god [026:01] I say maybe News this is so dystop. Maybe do AI news though, because the reality is, most people can't do much about the news anyway. So AI news, where you just kind of make up stories, might be the future, or you might heavily censor what you want, and people could choose their own news yeah that's what people can't do that already the kind of you know they choose their own news my aunt chooses her news in her news donald trump has been running the government for the last four years he speaks to the generals directly but he has been dead for a while which by the way that's harder and harder to argue with her about. And in her news, Donald Trump will then come back to the throne. But he's still running anything that she goes, anything she tells us Thanksgiving, because anything that could happen with China, Russia, Trump's doing the negotiation, not Biden. Did you see the Biden year conspiracy? [027:04] Did you see the Biden ear conspiracy? No. The earlobe conspiracy? But I love it. This is... Already, I love it. If you look at old photos of Biden, his earlobe hangs down. Ooh. As he gets older, his earlobe is connected, which is impossible. That's odd. It's impossible. Your ear doesn't change its position unless you get surgery. So what do we think? I think you had a face lift. Oh Definitely 100% definitely which is by the way That doesn't work on guys It doesn't it doesn't make you look better. It just makes you look weird. Your face is shining. Russia has different Dubbles. He has body doubles. Yeah, body doubles, but they 100% can do that. They can do that with makeup. Like I've seen videos where a person is talking and it just looks like some weird old man. And they just grab their face and peel it off. Like there's the makeup they can do is like Hollywood stuff. Like stuff like Rick Baker could do. Sure. Like they have like real exverses. [028:00] I did some dumb cameo in a horror movie and they made my whole head. Yeah. They just made my head. They molded it. It looks exactly like my head and they cut it off. It's the special effects and the ability to do things like that is insane. It's insane. And they can 3D print things now. The technology is so good and the materials are so good, and these artists are fucking incredible. They can 100% make you look like a totally different person. Oh, for sure. And I guarantee you they employ some of those people. Like if you were gonna have someone, and they were like a CIA undercover person going into a terrorist organization, wouldn't you fucking have them dressed differently with the absolute face? Absolutely. Why wouldn't you fucking have them dressed differently? Would you have so different face? Absolutely. Why wouldn't you do that? Well, the things that they're doing at DARPA and all of these things are so far from what we, you know, they had the internet in the 70s, right? They had a version of it. Did you see this new stealth bomber? No. Oh my God. I'll send this to you, Jamie. Hold on. So. So they're I mean they're doing stuff that's far beyond our conception [029:07] Yes, they're doing some wild shit that they're telling us about right? This is from the Drinking Bros podcast. I'm gonna send this to you Jamie and this is our new stealth bomber Yeah, this thing's insane and can if you're rich enough can you rent it out? Take it up? No, I don't think it has humans in it. Damn it. I think this is one of them, Jammy's words only, but it can carry nukes. Does it get us you, Jammy? He's sent me a different land. He has sent you a different land. I realize it was some Caitlin Jenner thing as well as anything. Caitlin Jenner's. She came to my Christmas party in LA and showed everyone her plane. Wow. She flies every like every few days. She flies around. Interesting. It's a wild hobby. It's an interesting life. Yeah for sure. It's an [030:00] interesting one. Don't go on your phone when you're up in the fucking sky. I bet she is I bet Caitlyn Jenner's in that plane on her phone Probably checking them tweeting about how much she loves Donald Trump Because that's what she was telling everybody at my party. She was going you know, she got nobody's patriotic anymore I love Trump and everyone's just like great. It's fun She's a fun archetype of person. Yeah. We're at the end of time. It's the time. Yeah, check this fucking thing out. This is crazy. Check this thing out. This thing, it carries, I think, four nukes or six nukes. There's an animation here, I wanna be finding that. This is amazing. Yeah. And it, but the thing is, and that links that I sent you. Put the link because I want to play that because he describes all the things it does in terms of jamming radar. It's crazy with this thing. Was the first stealth in like the 80s or the 90s? I want to say the 90s, does that make sense, Jamie? [031:00] Yeah. Yeah, but essentially 100% radar proof. It cannot be detected except for with your eyeballs. This one right here. Holy shit It looks sexy as fuck. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. So it has It is able to analyze algorithmically the enemies radar package like how they're able to determine radar and it can fucking Instantaneously send that information, not just radar, but so it can instantaneously detect the enemy's radar patterns. It can detect all of their troop placements, their aircraft carrier placements, their submarine placements with ground penetrating radar and their armor placements and immediately send a graphic of that back to every fucking other friendly force in the in the in the workspace or I'm sorry in the battle space instantaneously. One of these this fly over an area undetected and we're like, all right, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, and this shit starts popping up. [032:07] It also can carry six fucking nukes. This aircraft is essentially 100% radar proof. Jesus. Well, we need it. Oh, wild is that. Well, we need it. You know, that's why we're heading into perilous times. And we need something that can carry six nukes and invisible six-nuked down right that can detect everything Instantaneously, yeah, but Chinese got it and rushes got that they have good stuff over there That's why we got to have that right? I think that might be the top of the food chain We'll see we'll see that might top. Don't count out the Chinese. I wouldn't count them out. I wouldn't count them out. Well, they go do a really good job of siphoning information that they don't have any. Oh, they might have stolen that fucker years ago. Corporates be not. They're trying to do that. They're so good at it. Well in and we let them buy companies. Oh yeah, which is wild. So to see this by the way, which I think this is good. [033:07] He's basically, and the real estate lobby's fighting him. He went out in Florida, it's like we got to make it harder for Chinese nationals to just buy property here. And then the real estate lobby's like, hey man, you're fucking up a good thing. Yeah, for the, we like making money. We like earning commission. We like and China is a huge buyer of US real estate. So all these real estate people, the black rocks, you know, are coming into Sanctus and going, hey, we can't have this. You have to let the Chinese play. It's real weird. You know, like they can buy property, like a certain amount of property here in areas that were like, hey, isn't that kind of close to a military base? Oh yeah. Isn't that close to a military base? Yeah, infrastructure. [034:00] Well, they bought the World of Astoria Hotel in New York City, which is where the president used to stay every time he went to New York they bought it now he stays at the New York palace but it was just a fun thing to do they were like oh where's the president's that let's buy that we're gonna own that and they own it and they just flipped it to condos they don't care so the thing is so much of these cities Miami, New York York, LA, even all of a sudden now, a lot of this real estate investment is foreign. People that are laundering money, washing money, hiding money. And that's why the prices of real estate keep going up no matter what happens. Rates go up to 8%. It's still more money. A friend of mine who was telling me about this apartment building he lives in in Manhattan. Yeah. It's just filled with empty apartments. Oh, like super expensive. A ton of them. Empty apartments and it's just like Russian billionaires climb up and. Yeah. It's just Russian fertilizer magnets and Chinese amusement park tycoons. Just weird configurations of humanity. [035:01] I wonder what percentage of those giant luxury apartments that are purchased are unoccupied. Tons of them. Tons of humanity. I wonder what percentage of those giant luxury apartments that are purchased are unoccupied. Tons of them. Tons of them. That's why. Tons of them are. And people just stash money there in case the government in their country decides to get cute. Right. And I'd love some of that. And that's what happened. So when you walk around New York City, you look at all these buildings, right? And here's what you see. Cheers. Note you'll see three lights on. Yeah. You'll see three lights on in this massive billion dollar building cost of construction was a billion dollar. And there's five people home. Where's everybody else? Where are they? Are they at dinner? No, it was just scam. It's a vertical money laundering scheme. When I understood, because I was a tour guide in New York and I used to ask all these questions all the time I go, so what happens to the Chinese people come here and they go, well, we love Central Park and they want to live there and they go, yeah, but you know, they spend maybe a few weeks a year. [036:07] That's it. Some of them spend nothing and and a lot of foreign buyers will not just buy one apartment. They'll buy 10. And they'll just stash their money. They'll have a floor of a building. Maybe they'll throw a kid in it and why you go, you go become non-binary and disgrace us. I'm gonna stay home and run a business. You go to New York, become non-binary, have your moment, have your time. And we're gonna sit back in China and chill. But a lot of times these things are completely empty. It's criminal criminality. It's wild, it's a good method to move money around though. It's really smart. Oh, it's really smart. And it's great because real estate is perfect to launder money. You can buy it with a shell corp. You don't have to buy it under your name. You can buy it under that. And by the way, you can disguise that shell corp [037:01] with 100 other shell corp. So that like nobody's gonna go through. It's like a pad where they'd have to keep flipping pages to find the actual owner of the actual company. But wasn't this part of the problem with the Ukraine stuff? Oh yeah. That was part of the problem. I don't know what you mean, but I am agreeing with that. No, the Hunter Button, yeah. The family. There was a bunch of shell quips that were... Oh yeah. 100 bucks is an attorney. Number one, and he did some financial investments, but he certainly had a very healthy budget for fun. And now he had a budget for extracurricular activities. And where does that come from? It's a slush fund that comes from a lot of shady dealings. This guy had no expertise in energy. He was working at, he's a consultant for Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company. And now we've given you, Crane. I don't know what it is. It's an insane amount of money. I think the last count was, is it $170 billion? [038:08] Well, how much money have we given to Ukraine? And it's just interesting that that's the country that our president's son was having his little intern, Shabin. It's just a coincidence, dude. I know. Sometimes, coincidences happen. But it's no, we can't, you know what it is? It's like, I watch the worst people in the world, the people of Beverly Hills who like scream at valleys and yell at their nannies and they're not humanitarians. Right. Overnight they all had Ukrainian flex. Yeah. It was interesting. They don't care about Darfur, the Sudan, anything going on in Africa. They don't care about any of the problems happening in countries like Yemen, but they all immediately decided almost overnight that the only humanitarian crisis worth caring about was the Ukraine. Well, when baseball seasons over, you start paying attention to football. That's what it is. [039:00] That's what it is. That's exactly what it is. That's what it is. It sports for dorks. Just how much aid is USN to Ukraine? Total 75.4 billion? I don't think there's more. I think that's not more to but this is and you know how much of this aid disappears. Press well. Is it funny that we're saying 75 billion? I think it's more. Like it's nothing. But how much of this aid disappears off the backs of trucks? Oh, it's 113 billion. Oh, no, that's his past president. And by the way, you could start looking into how much of it is just evaporated. How much of that money's disappeared? Where it went? Well, there was this one story about this one guy who had pilfered off a billion dollars and they didn't even arrest him. They just made him resign. Yeah. And I was like, what is that story about? Like I've read the headline, I'm like, I'm gonna get to that eventually. Right. Did you see that story, Jamie? Whenever you're dispersing money in a war, it's always strange because you have to pay people off. Oh yeah. It's a perfect place for things to disappear, money wise. [040:00] One of my favorite moments during all this was the New York Times going after Candace Owens. Oh sure. They just did that. For what they had reported. They said to her, what evidence do you have that Ukraine has corrupt? Yeah. And she said, you're fucking New York people. You're awful. She says from just a couple of years ago, well it's like 2017 or 18 million vice-documentaries about how Ukraine was the home of white nationalism. The thing we were all, you know, supposedly, this was the greatest threat to human civilization. And we were told that every single day, this country, the Ukraine was a white nationalist country that had lots of these groups that fomented terror and were and they were going to start working with the white nationalist groups in America. And that's what there was articles written about that. There were documentaries about that. All of that became went out the window. Do you remember when? Right out the window. Who was it? Was it John Stewart that gave that dude the award? [041:01] Yeah. The metal. Yeah. And I'm sure Stuart doesn't even know it's like this guy's a hero. You you pin something on him, but they are listen, they're a vowed neo-nances in that country. This is they have SS tattoos. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's not everybody, but that is of battalion is a huge force, you know, and that's so wild. It's wild. And it's one of the reasons people think Selinsky was going to sign those Minsk Accords and end this little civil war issue they had going on in the Northern province in Dunbos. He didn't sign any of that. People think and people have, you know, pontificated that either those hardliners in the Ukrainian government and military go, you sign this, what kill you? Like if you use a or the US State Department was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you don't sign this. You keep doing what you're doing. Oh, God. And if there is a war, we have your back. [042:01] Oh my God. And this is, this has is been this is a well-known fact that everybody wanted some type of agreement early before there was a war with these northern russian speaking regions and the government of ukraine so that there was autonomy to a certain degree that they could speak the language that they could have political parties and i again i'm not saying that rushes like even though i do i am spiritually rush in someone told me that and i have a russian aesthetic but that's not why i'm saying this i'm just saying the facts are all there and we've had this long bloody war in which every time this guy wants to negotiate or thinks about we go don't don't keep going keep fighting we got you and then you know Nikki Helio these people go no it's civilizational by the way nothing's regional everything civilizational Israel Palestine civilizational it's odd it's like but wait a minute that's been a regional conflict forever. Since 1946, they go, no, no, no, it's about values. [043:08] It's about our values. So we got to send them billions of dollars and we might have to get involved because it's about our value. And you start going, wait a minute, it's about our values in northern Ukraine. So all of these little, and I'm not saying they're little, but all of these conflicts, we can't not get involved. We can't in some way. We have to be involved. We have to fund them. We have to give weapons because we convince everybody that all of these conflicts are a big battle for the future of civilization. And the next step is Putin is going to steamroll for Mont. He's coming to Vermont. You let him do what he's doing in the Ukraine. He's going to steamroll for Mont. He's coming for Mont. You let him do what he's doing in the Ukraine. He's going to steamroll. He's coming to Aspen. You want to see what happens when Russia owns Aspen. And nobody thinks logically like maybe we like war. Maybe we just like having a constant business. [044:03] Maybe Eisenhower was right. Yeah. When Eisenhower warned people when he was leaving office, I mean, that should be required listening to anybody that's confused as to why we're doing certain things. Right. They make, they're making a lot of money right now. And if they can keep this rolling, yeah, they're making great money. And I'm not making any of it from that. And if you could have some sort of motivation, you get some sort of motivation like you're trying to save civilization. Oh, always. These are justifies. So. Now, notice that when Saudi Arabia is killing Yemenis, it's not civilizational. That's not civilizational. But Ukraine, Russia, is. And anything that goes on in Israel and Palestine is But when the country of Yemen is being starved out bomb and killed with money and weapons from the US through Saudi Arabia That's not civilizational That doesn't that's not civilizational [045:01] But Nikki Haley's up there like let's fight it. Let's go China. Let's go Why do you think she's doing that because she always been that way she wants the big money and the big money people like when you get Well, she's a woman so she's got to be top tough Band-ticked. I'll kill you. She wants a band-ticked. Oh, bandit Well, bandit and then we're gonna go there and kick Chinese ass for making it. I'm Nikki Haley, I'm tough. I'm what Hillary Clinton came out like the running of the bulls going fuck Putin. We should kill like, Hillary's on record saying some of the most bella coast things ever about what we should be doing with our CIA and with our military. And Nikki Haley's basically going out there going the big money likes when you're open to a little conflict They like that the Koch brothers types like when you leave the door open You don't have to say we're gonna do it but leave the door open all options on the table That's your favorite word their favorite sense is like all we're leaving all options on the table [046:02] It's our it's about our values as Nikkialey. It's about our values in northern Ukraine. They like she wants the money. I don't know what Chris Christie's up there talking about. You know, a gem pick or whatever, but he's not getting a dollar. No one's giving him anything. He's a weird one. He's just there to ruin things. Here's what I appreciate about Chris Christie. He exists only to destroy. He's not trying to build. He cannot win. He's not gonna be elected. He's there to kill that Vivek Ramaswami. He's gonna kill him one day. He's there to just destroy other people. He's not there to succeed and he knows it. And Nikki Haley now is having the big meetings. She's having the big closed door meetings when they take you up to Montereo, California in the Bohemian Grove and they sit you down by the Redwood trees and you go, I like your style. I just like what now, by the way, who the hell is Nikki? No one knows. No one cares. [047:01] She was the governor of what? What was she the governor of what what was she the governor of South Carolina great great great But again, none of these people gave a shit back down right? I think her big thing was when someone climbed to the top of the state house and took away the Confederate flag She was like well, that's good. I think she didn't do any of that whatever She had that moment of like look at me. I'm the governor and I'm progressive all that people Vandalize the capital maybe for its good reason, whatever But nobody nobody knew who this bitch was and until She got on stage and started saying hey, I really love I would love to go to war I would love to go to war and then all of a sudden all the money started going You know, Nikki Haley who she's not a particularly Engaging or electric, but you know, Nikki Haley, who she's not a particularly engaging or electric, you know, she's fine, but she's not like somebody who's like, whoa, what do they do? Do they step in and say we need better speechwriters? What do they do? Do they say we need some sort of a clear, dynamic message that comes from you that's uniquely [048:01] from a woman's perspective that might accyclocublic Republicans. Yeah, the Karl Rove types sit down and go, we've really lost our way here. We've lost our way because right after 9-11, we were able to sell people on this idea that America had to dominate every corner of the globe and we were gonna throw a lot of lives at that and we were gonna spend a lot of money to do that. And that's what's ultimately going to make us safer and secure us. And Americans after the Iraq war did not believe that. The Americans said no, we don't believe that. So then all these Neal cons became Democrats. All the people that had pushed that war had become Democrats and they started coming at it from the left. And going like, well, Russia rushes they don't like trans people did you hear that they don't like trans people they don't have a real housewives franchise in russia like they went at it from another way going like we have to confront these countries these evil people like Vladimir Putin [049:01] uh... war irrational they're not acting in their own self interest. They're irrational psychopaths that want to dominate the world, even though Putin's never showed any inclination of doing that one time ever once. But he's gonna, he's 75, and he may not have Parkinson's, but now he's gonna go and dominate the world. Even though he can barely dominate the Ukraine after a year and a half fighting two years. But they go, no, no, no, he's gonna dominate the whole world. And so the whole idea is basically just like, they have to get back on that thing because Americans have lost the belief in that. You can't sell that to people anymore. Nobody wants to hear that. What do you think changed the Iraq war? I watched it. I saw it. I was a kid. I was in high school. Friends of mine signed up for the military. RIP to some of them. A lot of them survived. People watched soldiers dying every day. They watched a lot of people get rich. They watch the 10 counties outside of Washington, DC become the most [050:08] valuable places, you know, the biggest, you know, in terms of like net worth, they looked at all these counties around DC and they're like, wait, what? We're not talking about the Hamptons or Manhattan or Malibu or the Hill Country of the Texas, what are we talking about? Virginia and people watched a lot of people get rich. They watched a lot of corruption. They watched a lot of people die. And then what did we get for it? And I rat, what did we really get? What did we get in Afghanistan? The Taliban's built back. They're back. We left 20 years later with nothing. So then people start going okay We didn't just leave we army them we armed them and then coward out Yeah, and then like so watching that watching that whole process has I think disillusioned a lot of people in my generation I'm 38 and we're looking at all this shit and we're going like dude nothing you promised us happened [051:06] Right, we don't feel safer. It doesn't feel like we're safer because we invaded Iraq Have you ever entertained the idea that they left behind all that equipment so that the Taliban could become a threat And they would justify It's a circular thing. It's a circular thing. Let's put them on the table. Nikki Haley will be back in here in three months. She'll go in there. She'll go, well, they'll win. You know, women are being trained. Because it's always a tugging or hard drinks. Because we all agree that we shouldn't throw most of us. We shouldn't throw gay people off the roof. And we shouldn't stone women. We all agree with that. And that's the things they try to out. They go, you know, the women are being stoned. Meanwhile, they're letting people into America who some of them want to stone women and some of them would throw gay people off the roof. And if you question that, you're a Nazi. [052:02] Do you ever see some of the photos of Kabul from like the 1970s? Yeah, it was fucking the spot. It was amazing. It was the spot. It was there all the time. It was great. They would take vacations there. Well also, Iran before the coup. Yeah. Was this progressive place? Yeah. And we realized, you know, British and the United States, it doesn't, that's not gonna work for us. We'd actually rather them to be the scary because the dictators will work with our companies. That's why that Osama bin Laden led her to America. Oh yeah. It's a fun viral on TikTok. People are like, wait a minute, what would he do? My 12 year old cousin's in Elkida. Yeah. He's walking around going, this motherfucker makes a lot of sense about a lot of things But that's the problem. It's like the problem is like when Ben Laden did that we were told the dumbest thing ever He hated us because of our freedom He haters us because of our freedom It's our freedom and that we and that what we needed to do is give people our freedom [053:03] So that they didn't hate us. It was this mannequin good and evil thing. And we bought into it, I bought into it. I could not count the amount of parties I was at, Coke to my gills screaming about the need for the Iraq war. I was like, we're over there smoking a cigarette. You don't have to say, we're over there. I was like a fucking a parachic. I was running around Long Island drunk in my car Coked out of my face screaming the yelling that we needed the surge We need a surge and They got me they got because I felt good about I went this makes sense we're America We have freedom right I have freedom to sell subprime mortgages and do cocaine. They should have that. Right. And we need the surge and we need money and we can't give up and we can't stop and John Kerry is a pussy and he went to Vietnam to just I don't know take photos or whatever you and I I I totally bought in all of it. I was bought in and now I was on a lot of drugs. You're also young [054:12] I was being patriotic like that like blindly blind young is blind super common. I remember this girl goes As she said something to me it was one of these girls who was like a little bit more like you know not buying into it Right, and then she was like She goes do you ever think what it would feel like to be in a house and just have your city bombed? Like, I know that you're saying this is all for a good reason and this is to liberate them. But do you ever think about what it would feel like to just be in a place and then just hear bombs and then things are shaking and everything. And I was like, no, no. But I was, I, but the things like that will stop you, right? Things like that stop you in your tracks, little bit. You go, oh, that would suck. When Calon was a kid, he was in Beirut. Wow bombings. Interesting kid. Yeah, he experienced that. [055:10] It's interesting because I don't know, that probably f**king sticks with you. It sticks with you for sure. I watch them building blow up. Yeah. It's three blocks away. There's just this is the thing with Israel and Gaza right now. Like everyone thinks Israel should and does have the right to respond. Obviously they have to secure their country, right? They were invaded. We get it. The problem becomes when people are just watching massive civilian casualties all day on TikTok. You know, there's a certain level where people, they lose their tolerance. They go, this is a lot. And I think in the modern world, people don't have the stomach and nor should they to see this level of death and carnage. Especially from innocent women and children. Yes. When you see people being pulled out of the rubble like babies, the whole part. [056:01] And two years ago, it was idiot-stancing on it in pajamas and these kids are going, what happened? It used to be Charlie D'Amelio doing the hula hoop. Now it's people being pulled out of the rubble and kids are like, what? So it doesn't work anymore. Like this type of all-out conflict, it doesn't work. And I appreciate Israel's position because it's a tough position to be in That being said it's not gonna work if we had TikTok when we were in Fallujah It would have been crazy. Oh my god. None of it all just look at the pick the the stuff that got out about the What is it called which prisons a grab? Abogrape up a agree with the fucking dogs. Yeah They were doing a people that cigarette smoking girl Lindy England who now by the way works at a strawberry festival I found that out on my podcast. I swear to God Lindy England the cigarette chain smoking cigarette girl Who tortured those guys at I'll be great literally was one of the like sponsors of a strawberry festival? [057:03] I forget where but it's you, but it's absolutely true. And you can check it and it's amazing. And I thought, you know, everybody has a second act in this country. By the way, everybody. Doesn't really matter what you've done. Everyone has a second act. OJ's on his third act. Trump's on his third or fifth, sixth act, seventh act. Everyone has his second act. If you're still on the planet in this country, that's the thing about Russia. They had to kill that guy, Progoshan. You don't get a second act there. That's not the way it is. They don't have the mechanism. They can't give him a reality show. Progoshan doesn't get a game show, they got a blowout of the sky. In America, like Hollywood would love Trump, and I've Trump goes, I'm not gonna run for president, I just wanna do a big show. They would build him a fake White House in Burbank. Okay. Tonight and let him do, and they would all, they'd give him Emmys, they'd pretend it was all good, they'd hug him, it wouldn't matter. As long as he doesn't do the thing they don't want him to do. I don't think that's true. [058:05] I don't think he ever comes back. I don't think they ever let you back in. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Trump just said, I'm abandoning politics, Hollywood would be there in two seconds because they don't have any morals. They're amoral. So think about Hollywood. They don't care. They're only thinking about what can make the money and what will get them in trouble the least. But don't you think that in this day and age, being moral, at least like signaling that you're moral moral is an important part of Hollywood that didn't exist before It it can be and it is to a certain degree But they all know Trump is a fucking massive train of money They all know he's a train of money and if he just said listen I'm not I don't want to be the president anymore. I want a host to game show [059:04] There are people that Ted Srandos is calling him. And anyone that says shit about, like he would go, hey, what do you want him to be president? I gave him a show. What are you nuts? He'd be in his Malibu house screaming, like I gave Trump a show. So I do think that there's a way back in, they just, they don't want him to be the president. Yeah. But they don't, but he wants to be the president. And he's gonna probably be the president. He's gonna be the president. It's gonna feel interesting when he's inaugurated because it'll feel like we're living in a loop. How far do you think they would go to stop it? Because it's really wild watching him being prosecuted, right? Yes. It's really wild. I know for inflating the price of a condo, it's the dumbest thing ever. It's weird. They were like, he's an asset of Russia. And now they're like, now it's totally switched to where they're like, he said it had six bedrooms. It has five. It's like, guys, this wasn't what we were told. Right? We were told he was an asset of Russia. He pushed it up immediately to go, oh, he inflated the price of his real estate. By the way, everyone does that. Everyone does that. [1:0:06] If somebody's appraising your house, you walk up at the end and go, you show the basement, right? That's woodwork that I did. Everyone does that. He doesn't on a grand scale because he has more money and more properties. But the idea that that's what we're getting him for, it's hilarious. It's weird. It's crazy. Because if this keeps going, like how far will they take it? Like if he keeps getting bigger, cause it seems like at least in public perception, the more they come after him, the bigger he gets. Cause the more people realize the game. Right. They're like, oh my god, this is like banana republic shit. You're prosecuting your political opponents. Yes. And you're doing it specifically to time the trials around like Republican conventions, primaries, all these are you doing on purpose. Right. It's pretty clear. Right. So everyone's like more and more supportive of them than ever. So how far will they go and how far can I? I don't know. I think he'll run the joint from the can. I think I think he'll run the country from prison. I mean, I think he'll run the country from prison i mean i think he'll run it from the federal prison i mean it might get to the point where [1:1:07] we have the first mafia president where he's in federal prison in bomb beach and he's running the country yeah is that is that possible i don't think they'll kill him i don't think they kill anyone anymore i don't think they kill anyone anymore they don't seem to their torturing a sange they'll believe you out slowly sange these while but they don't seem to. They're torturing Assange. They'll bleed you out slowly. Assange things. Why? But they don't seem to be killing anyone anymore than with. They used to kill everyone. MLK, JFK, RFK, everyone died. But now they're not killing people nearly as much. There's a few people disappear. They're connected to the Epstein case. They go. They have They go. They absolutely few of those guys. Why? They take this off and they come allergic to it. They got one guy. I think it's crazy. The one guy that uh 30 miles from his house he hung himself from the lecture court and then shot himself in the chest with a shotgun. That's right. Or there was a guy in Palm Beach. They found him in his pool. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I'm seeing friend he was in a pool. [1:2:05] There's a few of those. Well they got to tie up the loose ends. There's a few of those loose ends that have been tied up. Oh, they got to tie up those loose ends. Yeah, there's a few of those. Without a doubt. They tied them up. Few of those. But they don't go after the to do that. They have this prosecutor in a Jack Smith, Jack something. They always have a guy they love. It was, who was it? It was a Mueller, Mueller, and then there was another guy. Everybody's, it's like he's the white knight. Yeah, this guy now, Jack Smith is the guy. See, everybody's put their all put their hope in Jack Smith. They had put their whole in Jack Smith. They had put their hopes attorney. Yeah Mm No, this is not Trump's the chair. This is the guy who's going at Trump. Oh He's the special counsel. Oh, so this is the guy that's trying to prosecute Trump and they're basically saying like [1:3:03] You know he this is the one, he's got it. But we've heard this for to fucking forever. Yeah, it's like, it's hard when you see the amount of crime that people are getting away with on the streets. And then you see this disproportion thing, you're like, you're trying to put someone in a cage for what? Right. And you're releasing people when they just storm Yeah into Nordstroms. Oh, yeah, run out with racks of clothes and smash Right people justifying that and you're making laws so you can't prosecute someone for stealing less than a certain amount Like what are you talking about like and you're gonna go after that guy for what like what what is that goal? Is our goal a safe for world? That's our goal. A place where businesses can protect it from Donald Trump's inflated condo price. That means it's so crazy that the two things exist in the same country simultaneously. Well erosion, erosion of law in order. If you talk to anyone in California, [1:4:01] everybody knows somebody whose house has been robbed. Yeah. Home invasion. Yeah, everybody knows somebody whose house has been robbed. Yeah. Home invasion. Yeah. Everybody knows somebody. Scary shit. Scary shit. Scary shit. And yet, they're not concentrating on that at all. You know, like New York City is a giant wave of crime. Yes. And they're prosecuting Trump for this. Meanwhile, they also have this insane thing where they're a sanctuary city. So they have to take in all these images. But the president's son and everyone keeps talking about this. They go, well, he's being, it's a political witch hunt. I'm like, he has videos of himself smoking crack with Ukrainian hookers with gun to their heads. Yeah. The guy lives in Malibu and he has art shows and so-ho. He's doing okay. Like anyone's life's ruined with one of the videos on his laptop. They've done a remarkable job of minimizing the impact of that laptop. Yeah, he's had his problems. It's amazing. He had his problems. What do you have no compassion for addicts? [1:5:02] I'm like, he's in the Ukraine with the gun to a hooker's head, smoking crack with a job. His father got him. You don't have compassion for addicts. It's a little different. It's slightly different. Can we admit that? Well, it's also much different if we can find out that Joe Biden was involved. Oh yeah. And the idea that he wasn't involved seems more unlikely. Seems odd. Seems weird. Odd. They would just bring in Hunter. It seemed like they had conversations too. Yeah. And it seems like he said that they didn't. It's a tough family. The best. It's just imagine. Yeah. If that just imagine. Yeah. If that was Trump. Yeah. Just imagine that the overall media coverage of it would be, Imagine House Insane, it would be of Donald Trump Jr. Well if Donald Trump was like, we should support the Ukraine, that everyone in the media in this country would go, fuck the Ukraine. Right. [1:6:00] Yeah. Anything he said, they just, they run the other way. But how crazy must it be for people like the CNN people that realized their greatest profits when they were having Donald Trump on every day? But that's where they want him back. Helped him get elected. That's why I think they ultimately want him back. They ultimately kind of want him back. If kind of engineered his comeback to a degree, Bill Burmade appointing was like, he was on the casino circuit and then everybody started guiding him and talking about him and now he's back. They like him. They love him. He was a creature of Hollywood in the media before he was a politician. They did create him and I think he's certainly not bad for business. It's just wild how they turned. It's just wild to live in a time when we feel like we're almost in a in an actual loop yeah where you go it's gonna be the same people over and over over again over and over again the bushes the Clintons Chelsea Clinton run for president in 2020 you know and it's just gonna be the same things and that's why you check out why my dad is so checked out now and I used [1:7:02] to think like oh he shouldn't learn more about store. He shouldn't. And now I've realized he's like, maybe the wisest person I know because his whole response like it Thanksgiving someone goes, what do you think about this Israel thing in a Gaza? And he goes, not cool and just competing. And I went, that's his left. He's got two or three words for any global event. My father has at maximum four words to describe it's usually like that's not good and then he keeps eating and I'm like maybe that's the move I used to say that I used to ridicule that I used to go he's really out of touch but now I'm like oh he's lived through Vietnam and yeah first Iraq, the second Iraq war, Afghanistan, Iran Contra, the president getting his dick sucked. You know, Obama, Trump, like I think eventually you just, you kind of just toss it, you toss it. And you decide that you're not going to get involved. [1:8:02] And you're just going to try to enjoy your life. That's his young kids on TikTok now that scream about pod. They just yell about pod. Like there's a whole group of young kids who yell into their phone about politics. You see them like there's two kids who like love Biden and they're and I had them on my show and they just, they go, we love Joe. I love Joe by and you had him on your show? How did I buy my show? They chatted. They chatted. You know the kids, that you, what are they? No, about anything. Did you get through to them at all? No. Was it fun? I don't get through to them at all. I get through to me. I get through to you. There's a few people I get through They're insane. Right. They're insane. But did you have any good points that they had to address? Yeah, for sure. But they don't that level when you're a kid or whatever you are. They're not kids either. They're like young adults. But that level of certainty that you have about the world, [1:9:01] you never see the world more clear than when you're like 20. You know at 20 why everyone's a loser right why everyone's a winner What's wrong and was right and so now we have an app where you can go on it and scream In the app and tell everybody all the things you figured out in 10 years of summer camp or whatever and would they you know But what it really is is You've never you haven't lived long enough to have any of your ideas challenged in any real way right You're also your brains not fully brain's not for and you want attention and you're in the middle this weird culture shift where people are Like getting rewarded for yelling about politics. That's right. On TikTok, publicly where you would normally just kind of do with your friends like you did over the year at war, coked up with a cigarette. If I had TikTok back then, oh my God. If I had a TikTok back then, I was a guy where I was, [1:010:03] I would go over my friend's houses, I would hang out with their parents until they would be working like shit little jobs, it would be like the end of high school beginning of college. And I would sit there with their parents, they would make martinis and we would drink gin and we would watch the O'Reilly factor. And we would smoke cigarettes in the backyard. And this was like, you know, if I had TikTok at that point, it would've just been this sweaty, disheveled, co-cats screaming about how Donald Trump's felt needs are support. Cause that was, you know, I was like, you, it's in your not America, if you don't. And that's it. I just think about myself as like, fuck, I couldn't have been more wrong. So I look at these kids who now have like the technology to broadcast every thought they've ever that they think they're having. I'm like, you're going to look back on that and go, that was so cringe. Right. When I was like doing Biden youth and screaming about the importance of Biden and how great he was, even if you [1:011:03] believe in Biden or think he's good or whatever, the way that they do it, they're gonna look back on it and they're gonna go, oh, I was caught up in something because that's what I feel. I go, I was caught up. I didn't really, I read a few books that I didn't understand and I went all around the night and screaming about the need to democratize the Middle East. There's something about doing that on Long Island. Oh, it's amazing. It's so classic. It was great. And it was like I remember being in the car with people. You want to fight him here? You want to fight him here? Yeah. every talking point that was given to me, I completely now realize sounds ridiculous. And I look at these young people and I'm like, I'm not saying don't be passionate about things. I'm just saying like live a little. Yeah, also. Wait a little bit. It's hard to realize why you're captured [1:012:01] in like a way of thinking. Right. While you're in the middle of it and all your friends are in the middle of it, and everybody's in the middle of it. See what, well at least back then you didn't have social media. So it's like I wasn't doing it to be famous. I was doing it because I was a genuinely fucked a lunatic. I was a genuine fucking lunatic. Now these kids go, oh there's cloud. I can make money. I have followers. Oh yeah. Back then, I was like, no, no, no, I got a backyard. I got a bottle of vodka. I got a pack of cigarettes. Let's go. But you know what's ironic? Yeah. If you were on TikTok and there was all these other people doing it at the same time, if TikTok existed back when you were a kid, you would still rise to the top. Yeah, well, I like to think so. Yeah, you would have a hundred percent. You would have a hundred percent. Because a lot of this people getting attention that are mediocre, it's just a lack of other content that's available. No, I would like to think so. I would like to think that there'd be people being like, do you watch that guy? I'm like, he's the guy. That fat, clos gait cocaine addict. Who talks about why we need to do the Iraq war? [1:013:07] He's good. Who knows? I mean, you have Fox News consultant. I could go to Lock the Murdock right now. You would have, and they gave me 20 million dummy. Imagine if Fox decided to go Wild West, and they had like an online like wild, right wing, swear all the time. Talk about whatever the fuck you want to. If I get the lot of the young guys in, it would listen. If I, I'd be the oldest person in TikTok. If Fox News did a TikTok show with me, and it was just me screaming at these kids, and you know, they're all like young guys who, they all have a boy band aesthetic, and they're kind of like, they're also trying to get girls as they talk about politics. So it's the weirdest thing. They're like, they're like looking in the camera, they're like, you know, like healthcare, like you have that abortion. Yeah. Which is lovely, I mean, I'm not anti-abortion, [1:014:02] but it's so funny to see this, everything's conflated with everything else. So it's like, they're out there trying to get pussy, trying to make money, trying to be famous, and also trying to be right. And by the way, a few of those things have to get sacrificed. The people that I've known, well, I'm like, God, you're right, a lot of them are not rolling in dough. A lot of those journalists who are like, right about stuff, or they even care about the idea that there is a right. They're not rolling in dough. They get sub stacks. They get sub stacks, you'll read them. They're doing better now. They're doing better now. They're doing better now. They're doing better now. The green walls, people like that, Tai-Ebi, absolutely. They're better now and you can fucking trust them. God damn it's hard to trust. It's hard to know what the fuck you're reading, what the motivation is behind. Like more than ever before. You must want us? No I'm good. Thank you buddy. More than ever before. I mean so many times I'm reading things. I'm like where, what's the fucking motivation by? What's the true story? When I came up in the world and understanding, trying to understand the stuff, there was cable [1:015:07] news dominated the discourse. So it was just the three networks, the big three, the papers, the times, the journal, the watching and post, whatever. But then it was cable news. So it was MSNBC, Fox News, CNBC to a much lesser degree, CNN, even to a much lesser degree, but it was Fox and MSNBC were the ones that were really propaganda factories, Fox was the right, MSNBC was the left. And that's what you had. And that's kind of still what you have, if you're a boomer. But now the internet has just opened the gates of hell so that it's every idea and every permutation of every idea So you get some really good ideas and some really bad ones and sometimes they're all in the same package But don't you think you get a lot more of an understanding of what is actually going on If you're listening to Jimmy do all over the place. Yeah, if you're listening to breaking points [1:016:04] Of course. There's so many different versions. There's so much information it verges on too much. What can be? It can be. It's almost impossible to keep up. You have a full-time job. But I mean, it is much better than what it was when I was growing up and you were fed. Oh, yeah. So Bill A'Reilly would come on and feed you a Narrative the fucking weapons of master's instructions narrative that that's responsible for the death of how many fucking people right? Yeah crazy crazy and then it was like Iraq didn't even make sense Well, it made sense for people that had a lot of money in it They wanted to knock over all these countries. They really wanted go into Iran we saw the westerly clerked of course that things wild they wanted to go into Iran they wanted to remake the entire thing yeah it's crazy when he talked about that i remember watching that going what was it what is he saying like they really they really have conversations like this yeah well i think it really does come down to the fact that, listen, our [1:017:09] system of government has a lot of benefits. A lot of, there's a lot of, I wouldn't want to live in any other country. There's a lot of great things about our system of government. So the idea of going like, shouldn't everyone have this stuff? Some of it, short freedom of speech, all these things, you know of it, sure, freedom of speech, all these things, you know, freedom of association, freedom of religion, all of the things that we like value when they talk about we should go and give that country that. Absent in that discussion, those number one, whether the country wants it. Right. How we're giving it to them. If we're doing it at the barrel of a gun, RFK talks a lot about how China has been really invested in soft power building schools. What are we doing? Building bases. What do people hate? Military bases. China's Belt and Road Initiative is like building schools. [1:018:00] Economically reaching out to people and trying to build bridges and expand China's influence in those parts of the world, namely Africa. We've been doing it at the end of a gun for a very long time. What China's done has been pretty fascinating because they have such an interesting way of running things. I mean, it's horrible if you're stuck under the thumb, but if you look at the way their government and their businesses all work together, like no one can do anything that's bad for the government. No one can do it. The government, like, it's a hard country, and not respect. Even though you go, I don't wanna live there. You have to respect them. Like you're a fighter, you respect an adversary who has strengths that you don't have. China has strengths we don't have because adherence. Compliance. Have a system of government. Sensation. Like controlling people completely is probably a strength not it's not a good thing, but it probably does strengthen [1:019:07] the nation state to a degree By preventing the type of information From getting to them that would make them go hey, we're getting fucked up. Exactly. Yeah, but people probably know like that's the thing that happened during Russia During the time of the Soviet Union. I talked to this dude who was Russian he said nobody believed anything that was on the news everybody assumed that it was all propaganda no matter what right the state news was telling right you know they kind of had this like cynical perspective that they were trapped and this is just how it is yeah I mean we I've said it before but we're a country of believers like we're not that cynical we actually do believe in the thing about these places where they control people it makes it very difficult to get creativity That's true. You don't get any funny because it's too dangerous. No irony Yeah, you don't shit about the wrong people. They're gonna fucking kill you get you Yeah, and you don't get any political [1:020:05] Discuss did you hear about the show in Russia where it's like let's find out who's gay and they literally put these guys in a house and one of them's gay? Oh my god. And they have to keep kicking them out until they find the gay one. I mean, it's like hilarious. But I mean, like, that's the type of entertainment you get like an authoritarian country. But they have gang fights in Russia. MMA fights where they have teams of 30 guys on one side and 30 guys on other side and they run at each other like Braveheart and beat the fuck out of each other and they're in different color outfits so they know who's who. It's wild. It's a wild placement. You gotta stop. You gotta have a happy medium between that and let's have seven year old drag queens. And this is the problem because we don't we we're not designed for balance The country is not designed for that right and certainly the internet is really not designed for that right the minute You acknowledge certain things and go like yes People should be able to pursue happiness as long as it's not at the expense of other people [1:021:04] What tends to happen there is, you know, in freedom, you have a tremendous disparity between people that are going to abuse it, right? Yeah. And so then the answer for those countries is to give people very little freedom, right? And to wrap it up either in religion or nationalism or whatever it is. And then our country, it's, we maybe go the other way, where we tell people, your self esteem and your sense of self, you know, is at the expense sometimes, of a cohesive society. And that also becomes a problem. So a lot of people now are looking at like, what are the limits of a liberal democracy? What are the limits of self will completely run rampant? You know, if everyone in society is thinking only of themselves, their own happiness, pleasure at every moment, [1:022:03] how do we have a cohesive functioning unit? So that is the struggle. That's the struggle. It's like finding a way for people to be able to have freedom without infringing on other people. And that doesn't seem to work. Cause as soon as you give people freedom, they go, you have to agree with me or you're fired or we'll take your kids away or well, whatever. And that is what makes people throw the whole go like fuck it. No freedom. You know, it's like the abortion thing. It's like both sides of that debate have been in the trans thing. They've both been hijacked by extremists. There are people that believe you should be able to get an abortion at any point during a pregnancy for any reason. Then there are people that believe you should never be able to get an abortion. Those are the only people we hear from. The rational middle ground just goes to work. [1:023:02] That's the problem with all these debates. We don't hear from sane people. And if you chime in, if you have any sort of a balanced perspective or you know, you're in the middle on these things, you're in the center. If you chime in on these things, you just get attacked. You get attacked by the strongest forces from both sides. Yeah. You're attacked by the strongest forces from both sides. The most, it's just very aggressive, and most people want to avoid that in their life. So if they do wait in occasionally, and they could call out for it, you could get fired, you can get in trouble. They can contact your boss. Do you know that your employee is this or that? And they support this, and they support fascism, and they support, you know, and they're like, oh, I don't want to hear this. And we're gonna start an email campaign to boycott your company and like, oh, fuck. That's why everyone should choose like really one terrible thing to be on the internet. And they get to be at whether it's a furry or a Nazi, you get to be like one thing. You have to be one. You have to be one. You can't be everything. It's be? I don't know. I guess furry, we're halfway there with the coat, [1:024:06] but I just think you have to, you know, it's like what's interesting about Caitlin Jenner is trans person, also heavy maga, also rich athlete. It's a lot for people. It's a lot. They go, there are people that are hating her for different reasons. There are people that love her and then hate her. It's a lot they go There are people that are hating her for different reasons right there are people that love her and then hate her It's very interesting when you have those cross sections of person Where it's like the trans people are like we like her and then she goes I'm against gay marriage you go What's happening? Yeah, like when Kanye put on the mega hat? I was like hey, yes, what's happening? He's had an interesting run I bet he bounces back with this new album. I bet he bounces back. Especially right now. We're gonna see a lot more high profile breakdowns. Well, right now, you're seeing more anti-semitism you've ever seen before. It makes stuff that Kanye said seems super mild. It's super mild compared to what a lot of people say. [1:025:03] All he said was I like Hitler. That's fine by the way I love Hitler I love Hitler. That's not even the worst of it now. I love everybody. That's not even the worst of it now If your kids are only saying I love Hitler you're lucky Count yourself lucky if your kids are only going I love Hitler. Oh my god It's a lot of anti-Semitism now and it's a lot of people that are like, I don't know. And I feel it's open. It's open. People go wild. Wild. Wild. Though those here we've talked about it too many times already. But those, those hearings were that Congresswoman is addressing the president. Why doesn't anyone lie? Why doesn't anyone lie? Why didn't she go? What, what? Like nobody lies like the fact that the president of Harvard can't lie scares me more than the discrimination. I don't think it's a matter of that she can't lie. I think it's a matter of she believes that those things are okay. Ask me the question they asked her and I'm going to tell you what the right response was. Does yelling death to the Jews constitute harassment? [1:026:12] I was in my office. I heard them say, I thought they were saying death to the blues. I had no idea they were talking about Jews. None of that's going on. I don't even know what's happening. I go to work every day just trying to make this the greatest country in the world. And apparently people yelling about the Jews, I don't even, of course not. The Jews are happy, everyone's happy where we are. Jews are happy, Muslims are happy. The things you don't see are the Jews feeding the Muslims a lot, because, and the Muslims making the homies for the Jews, you guys are seeing the bad stuff, but we have, I mean, ooh, we have Jew and Muslim dance night. Every Thursday. Like, just make shit up. You know, we desperately live in a time of intellectuals and we need to live in a time of business people who cut deals. [1:027:01] This is, again, an argument, maybe for Donald Trump. We intellectuals are rotting everything with their double speak and their, it's what we need is people that realize the limitations of their own intellect. Those are business people. People that come in and go, you want something? You want something. Guess what? Neither one of you is getting it. But here's what you want something. Guess what? Neither one of you's getting it. But here's what you can get. There's a smugness to those people too. That's bizarre. When the one lady was, what university was it? When the lady was smiling, every time she went to answer the question and not answer them. Thomas, if it's actionable. If it's actionable. If you are actually commit genocide, like what do you say? Thomas Sol, who's one of our great thinkers, said the thing about intellectuals, you wrote a whole book about it, they never have to be right. Mm. If you bake pies for living, if you are a contractor, you cannot put a house that falls down. You cannot poison people with a pie. [1:028:00] Intellectuals can be wrong all the time without consequence. The only thing is that whatever they say has to sound good. That's why these people at Harvard are sitting there making no sense, because they know they don't have to be right. All of the intellectuals in the early 1900s were all on board with eugenics. They thought it was a great idea. Only in hindsight was it like, ugh. Oh, baby. All these intellectuals were on board with the Iraq war it's stunning go fine go look at everybody writing people are fired from Chris hedges a journalist fired for giving an anti-war commencement speech most intellectuals are on board with that now they all go we're guessed at that so these people at Harvard are just trying to say things that sound good. And they're not. And because they know they don't have to be right. There's no consequence in the real world for what they say as long as it sounds good. [1:029:04] So they can say, hey, it's about free speech. They don't believe in free speech at all. But as long as someone goes, that was a well thought out, well articulated point. It doesn't matter what they're saying. And, you know, I don't know. Well, that's clear in those conversations. Because they're saying nutty things like if it's actionable. Like she's just dancing around answering. Just say no. That's what I would have said. Can we say we got what genocide it is just no? Yeah, that's really bad. I go that's bad. That's not good. Who's doing that? That's what I'd say. But here's the same thing. What is the fear? Is the fear that the students will attack? What is the fear? The fear is the on campuses. I would imagine a lot of these progressive campuses. The pro-Palestine sentiment is the strongest by far. [1:030:01] For sure. By far. And it's probably a problem when someone has a pro-Israel stance. I think probably gets warmed. These institutions now are fully, they've been captured, this institutional capture, meaning that they don't want to say anything or do anything that gives the idea that they are backing an oppressive entity, the colonizers, the bad guys. The colonizers, the big ones. So they're like, we got to let people say whatever they want to say. And we're not going to get, now we don't want anyone getting hurt. Maybe we'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but they're also saying we're going to allow people to say, however, you couldn't say that about trans people, couldn't call for the genocide of trans people. Well, how about no one called for the genocide of Russians? Right. There was never a death to the Russians. Like that, that's kind of why? No, no genocide calling for it. [1:031:02] Right. Cool. Isn't it? But that is really wild if you think about that one. Yeah. There wasn't a similar backlash against Russians. Because Ronald Reagan said, oh, would you mean recently or when we had a cold war? No, even even like while this is happening recently, Ukraine, Russia thing, Russians are fine over here. I don't have any problem. Like when Russian fighters get view the Russians as controlling party in our society. There's a lot of people that view the Jews as the de facto rulers of America and the controllers of America. Interesting. And that's I think the reason for it. I don't think we look at Russians as having that type of power. Also the scale of the Israel's response in Gaza, it dwarfs everything that's happening. It's wild. I think it's not. It's foolhardy. It's, it's, I think strategically it's going to be an issue because what are they going to do now? They're going to have a security [1:032:02] role in Gaza permanently and it seemed like There was some Kamala Harris talk where she was talking about a country that was going to rebuild it right and they're in negotiations And talking about rebuilding Gaza, which is like hey, that's the that's the fucking Ferris wheel keeps spinning around the Ferris wheel just keeps spinning around And this is the money again. We I feel bad when he's going this way now Haliburton yeah, I feel bad for People that are victims of anti-Semitism For sure and that's legit and especially people in colleges are Probably getting the brunt of craziness. Yeah But then there is also you also have a thing where colleges are probably getting the brunt of craziness. Yeah. But then there is also, you also have a thing where every criticism of Israel can't be anti-Semitism. Right. That also, How about the citizens criticism of Israel? They were in the streets, hundreds of thousands. [1:033:01] That's right. For months, there were not just things like the BBA. So there is room and there has to be room to say the course of action we disagree with. I think it's unwise for the United States to allow and fund and open-ended engagement in Gaza open-ended with You know, that's very... Two months. Two years. Two months. They're already saying that it might be beyond the tipping point of rebuilding. Like they've destroyed so much. Have you seen the footage? The recent footage? It is crazy. Mosques. It's not so good. Bombing mosques. Bombing buildings. It's their moment at what we did after 9-11 did not make us safer. And I think they're having that moment right now where there's an understandable rage. They are upset. Hamas has their babies and women and children and every, you know, what Hamas did was strike [1:034:03] at the heart. That's what terrorism does, right? You get to the core of a human being by saying, we're gonna rip away the things from you that you care about the most. This is the emotional response to that. I don't know how strategic long term it is. It's terrifying. And I think it's unfortunately, when you see women and children being killed that are innocent, we got to minimize that. This is, you know, if not, you know, we got to, we get, you know, this is why when we have a modern civilization, the whole point of being a civilized country is to, you know, minimize deaths of innocent people in these types of things, especially like that. Yeah. I mean, that October 7th, things. So what the fucking the music festivals, it's crazy. Airifying. No, and I, I understand why you have a situation [1:035:02] now where Israel is in a position where they're going, well, we can't live with Hamas. Right. That's not going to work. Right. We can't live with them. But we need, there needs to be some two-state solution. When I grew up, all we heard was that. They never materialized, never came to fruition. But then over the last few years, no one's talked about it, no one's cared. And I think it's become a situation where you have these elements, these radical elements in that society that are reacting to the very real and unending, you know, like unlivability of that situation, you know, where your, it causes unlive, but it's not a livable situation, the situation. So then there's going to be people that are ultimately hopeless. And as where terrorism comes from, it comes [1:036:03] from people that feel like they have zero hope. Nobody blows himself up or engages in this type of activity because they feel like there's a myriad of options for them in life. You know, they might be polluted with fundamentalist religion, but where does that come from? It comes from the idea that if somebody came to me and goes blow yourself up, I don't want to. I have a show tonight. You know, for law enforcement, I have whatever. I got stuff to do. I don't have the greatest life in the world. I don't even have to say that I have a record code on. But the point is I'm not going to blow myself up. No young 19 year old person should be at a point in their life when for a religion or a political faction or a government should be thinking of doing a kamikaze mission. So you do have to address the political conditions that create that level of helplessness. [1:037:01] You do. That doesn't mean that anti-Semitism is okay. And that doesn't mean that At every turn you're going to be able to convert people that if they just want to kill Jews Maybe they're just gonna kill Jews and you have to eradicate that threat But you have to address those political conditions that create that type of desperation and people that turns them to that type of violence. Have you ever heard Dave Smith talk about it? Yeah, I heard a little bit on your show. It's he goes deep. He's deep in it. And when you look at what it when it's all laid out, it was oh my god, how do you fix that? It's very hard. Well I believe in a crusade. I believe my fat aunt and uncle, the Christians take it. They come in on a carnival cruise ship. They come out. The Jews and the Arabs go, what happened? And then big daddy, the originals, the Christians, the ones who used to run it, come back. They set up days and busters. [1:038:01] They're in there. They're at buffets. My aunt's pointing at the tomb tomb where Jesus supposedly called out of she's taking a photo with it and their sandals you know It's very hard to imagine fixing any of this stuff We're gonna have to learn to live with some Compromises now don't mean only mean like political compromises where we go you get this we get that There's just some compromises. That only mean like political compromises where we go, you get this, we get that. There's just some compromises in life where we're gonna have to just understand that certain areas might be dangerous. Yeah, you know? Certain areas might be dangerous. That's what it is. Did we fix the South Side of Chicago? Did we fix inner city, you know, East St. Louis? Did we fix any of those? No, people left. So that's unfortunately what tends to happen a lot is people go. They leave. So I don't know the... But how do they get out of Gaza? [1:039:01] That's the problem. That's a problem. That's part of the problem is that's kind of an open air prison. That's a problem. They're going to have to go to some of the other Arab countries. Are the other Arab countries taking Gaza refugees? No. That seems like they should take some. But again, I don't want refugees. I almost agree with them there. It's like, I don't want refugees. If my family started calling me going, hey, our pipes froze, I'd go, oh, that's, I'm sad. That's horrible. Wow. There's the hotel again, huh? Well, we figured you got a house in here. What? It's like, it's a limit to the refugee game. Well, that was one of the funniest things about the New York crisis. They were asking people to take them into their homes. No. What are you talking about? Some guy who walked over here from Guatemala and he's going to sleep with your kids. It's great. Listen. What are you saying? How do you do know that guy? He's as cool. Here's the thing, and I know this is going to sound horrible because I think even if Jesus were to come back, he would even say enough with the refugees. [1:040:06] Like I think, you know, we gotta not fuck up the whole world and then take them all in. Like this writer Steve Sieler said, he had a great quote, invade the world, invite the world. Can't do it. We can't go around fucking everything up. And then all these people show up and we go, well, we owe them. I go, I don't know I didn't do it I didn't bomb them well your tax doll it's like we have to stop letting people destabilize all these countries and then let them in we've floods of refugees why do you think the refugees are coming in from the southern border like they are I don't think they're allowing that it's economic migration and the reason is that a lot of these business owners enrich people benefit from cheap labor. They want gardeners, they want nannies, they want chefs, they want people doing their nails, they want, if you think they thought of that, so let's let them in so they can do our nails. Of course they don't want to pay American wages. If you can hire someone $3 an hour whatever it is off the books illegal labor [1:041:06] You know how many construction projects go up with illegal labor? You know how many of these construction projects in Miami? They're building like 20 new towers in Miami with floating bath tubs for Bitcoin criminals and God only knows the poll brothers and God bless everybody. I like them But like they're they're building all these big big towers in Miami How's that I'm not doing it? It's illegal labor. Is it really oh yeah now DeSantis shut that down and all the construction projects are grinding to a halt Because there's a lot of illegal labor being used in putting up certain buildings really oh yeah Oh, yeah Wow up certain buildings. Real. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Wow. This is a huge part. This is what, or were to believe that the people living in Greenwich, Connecticut love El Salvadorians. It's one of the two. It's one of the two. It's either that they're benefiting financially from it, [1:042:01] or there's a housewife in Greenwich going, you know, I love an Arrapa. New Florida immigration rules start to strain some businesses. Some employers say they were losing workers because of the new law, which is championed. I look at the red spot. I look at the photo. I do roofing a house. Yep, yep, this is building a house. We have this massive housing boom that was enabled not only by the low interest rates, but by you have to have people to build these houses. What do you think, D.H. Horton, all these companies like they don't admit to it. So how do you mitigate that? So you think that's literally why they're letting everyone in. You don't think it has anything to do with voting? Yes. It has a lot to do with voting. And it's trying to allow people to read certain demographics are better for the democrat party and we know that however republicans up until recently didn't care that much because they thought they could turn latinos republic and in some of them will some of the t-nose or catholics and they go we don't we don't want to do gender monopoly and gender musical chairs whatever games they're playing [1:043:03] over there we're gonna stick with and a lot of Latinos don't vote So you have a large percentage of people that don't subscribe to the political systems bullshit who cares Well also you have the bottom mysteries and sending people back that's right from Venezuela Venezuela people who escaped and copied his government. Yeah, they were Republicans. Yeah, they got out of here. They got to go So they don't want to let more Cubans in from Miami. They don't want more Cubans in. No. But I think the economic interests of these people are we can bring in people that will do the work for nothing. Yeah. The Tyson Chicken Raid, this was the big thing. The immigration, the raid that whatever ICE or whoever did on the Tyson Chicken factory is a big story during Trump's term. They rated that. African American unemployment dried up in the months after that because the Tyson chicken factory had to hire Americans. So when these companies are forced to hire Americans and pay American wages, they [1:044:02] do. But until they're forced to do that, they're going to rely on largely illegal, unregulated labor. And that's in their personal lives and private lives. So if you can hire a landscaping company to come to your Hampton's house or your house in Bel Air or granite or here, wherever. It's beautiful places, here, things. But it seems like such an issue. Manatee's dreams. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. hold it. Oh, the chicken factories. Undocumented workers once considered an acceptable part of our economy. Now they are demonized. Interesting. Hmm. And again, I'm not saying like this is a great thing to do these raids. And obviously there's human costs. But the what would tends to happen when you lose illegal labor, you [1:045:03] have to hire Americans. And they don't want to do that. Why is the Chamber of Commerce, pro immigration? Why are the Koch brothers open borders advocates? Is it because David Koch loves people from Central America? Or is it because he wants to drive down the cost of wages? He believes in a market rate. And a market rate is, hey, anyone will do it. This is the problem with kind of that libertarian type of philosophy it just doesn't work if you import the third world to America right that doesn't really work because then you're setting wages people on park avenue manhattan go you get what is that guy want four dollars let's find someone to do it for two fifty so is this idea to try to compete with other countries that do this? Like China. It's that is one of the ideas, the other idea is to get a ninth sailboat. Yeah. It's people that go, where are our profits? How can we maximize these profits? What's the bottleneck? [1:046:00] How can we maximize? How can we put up cheap labor bottleneck? How can we put up 100 houses for, you know, just the material cost and a minute labor cost? Mm. And what do you think about, there's a real, I think there's a bill that just got brought up where they're trying to stop these companies from buying up houses. Yeah, black rockin' all these guys. And they're trying to stop them from doing that because they think that they're controlling the housing market. Yeah, it's pricing single family homes. These are the big problem. The big problem is single family homes. It's hard to say. Hege funds have invaded the housing market. A new bill would ban them. A sweeping new bill introduced in Congress would essentially ban hedge funds and private equity price from buying single-family homes there you go this is interesting yeah this price is out a lot of people using the gun of vote on this this is this seems this seems like one it's going to be very interesting to see how they vote what's going to be [1:047:01] interesting bill which is introduced both the u.s. Senate and the u.s. House of Representatives on Thursday would over a 10-year period require hedge funds and large institutional investors to completely divest from single-family home ownership called the n hedge fund control of American homes act bill would require large funds to sell off 10 percent of their homes each year over a decade. Well basically what they want to do is create a nation of renters. How do you feel about this though? each year over a decade. Hmm. Well, basically what they want to do is create a nation of renters. How do you feel about this, though? Yeah. How do you feel about a ban? Well, there's a lot of people that own those houses that are not going to be happy with a ban because they want BlackRock coming in and giving them more money than the house is worth. How much more do they give them? They can give them, you know know 30% above really which is Money and then at least those homes out and they least them out. It's part of this idea that Home ownership and automobile ownership and all of these things You know eventually gonna be replaced by more effect you know Whitney Webb that somebody I've had on my show and she [1:048:04] She's wild. She's wild and she, she's wild. She's wild, but she knows her stuff. You know, Patrick Beddavid had her on, and when she came on my show, she made a lot of great points about these legacy systems that people wanna get rid of, and they go, rent a house, you know, Yuzu Burr lift, whatever, you know, you don't need to own what is owning do for you? That's that famous article. You'll own nothing to be happy right? So I think the band would Sort of put the brakes on that I guess the problem is A lot of these companies find ways around these bands you gotta remember these are the smartest people in America that become, and I don't mean smart, like, contemplative intellectuals. I mean, shrewd, effective sociopaths. They're really adept when I say smart. I don't want people going, you think that, I don't mean that. I mean, they're very effective at gaming the system. There are 10 steps ahead of all these laws that are being passed. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to pass the laws, but like a lot of these people are already anticipating that and then how to get around it. [1:049:08] I'm fascinated to see how that bill does. Yeah. Because it seems like they would put extraordinary pressure to make sure that bill does not get passed. They're not going to allow that bill to get passed. It seems like you're going to find out who's on board. Well again, again, when RFK came on my show and called up BlackRock fan garden, I know we did it on your show too, BlackRock fan garden, state street as these companies don't own everything. You know, I got a lot of messages from a lot of financial people going, well, everybody's portfolio is tied up in that. This is part of the whole issue with everything. Right. It's the Thomas Sowell thing. There's no solutions. There's only tradeoffs. It's hard to get honest at this deep in the scam that is our financial set. It's like hard any deleveraging, any winding down of the military industrial complex. All of this will have [1:050:01] ramifications in our society financially for people across the board. Anything you want to, I'm not saying you shouldn't attempt to do it, but like anything like this, I don't like illegal immigration, it's like, okay, your house is more money now. Oh, they go, okay. I don't want Chinese people buying real estate, okay, well, maybe, and that, you know, maybe the, you know, real estate industry is going to take a hit. Not only realtors, but people that work in that business, right? Property managers, interior designers, architects, people that stage homes, appraise it, whatever it is, people might take a hit this is part of the issue of where we're at now you ban black rock and all those things from getting in there that's fine and then you know people people will take a hit financially uh... with their portfolios but do you think that they [1:051:01] how many people have to vote yes on this like how how many people are involved in this decision? Well, it would have to pass two houses of Congress and then get signed into law by the president. Now that seems very unlikely. It's a while. It seems very unlikely because BlackRock will have a great argument as to why they're helping people. They'll get out there and they'll be like, Hey man, we're here and we're buying these fucking houses and the people that were buying them from love us, these boomers love BlackRock. The boomers will get on a BlackRock cruise with BlackRock shirts. The boomers, cause the book, one of the problems in the American real estate market is boomers will not sell their houses for anything under a $1.6 million profit. They just won't. They won't, because they like to lord them. They like to lord around them. They like to make their kids feel guilty. They like to go, you could never afford it. They like to tell you how cheap the house was when they bought it. [1:052:01] And then this is every Thanksgiving or Christmas somebody will go pick this up for 200 grand. Now it's worth one eight. And then it's their millennial kids are sitting there, Saddlewood student loan debt. And the boomers are big. If they're less fuck you before they leave the planet. Yeah. They're a spiteful generation of monsters. I respect it. But they're less fuck you before they leave the planet is instead of selling their houses for I don't know a $900,000 profit, they just won't put them on the market. Some boomers, which is hilarious, we read the articles on my show, they were actually retiring to bigger houses. They're sizing up. It's sick. It's like insane. So that becomes an issue too of like, you know, it used to be like you would, you would have a house, the kids would move, you'd stay in it, probably for another 10 or 20 years, and then you get a condo and you'd go, I'm out. Fucked away, I want a moment on for. Now the boomers are going, this is the only thing we have that makes us truly valuable in societies [1:053:04] that we own this like a McMansion. And we're not given this up. We are tax paying citizens. And we are not given this up. And our kids are going to come here every year and they're going to suffer through the size of our house with nine empty bedrooms while they live in a two bedroom apartment. And we're going to we're going to chastise them for their decisions and their choices. And the big mansion defines you and your car that you drive up to the mission and all that defines you. And where are you vacationing? That's right. Where are you going? That's right. And they're gonna go, they're gonna go, they're gonna go because they all bought those houses for very little money and they are going to hold them over everybody's houses until they are found dead in them. They will not leave those houses until they are taken out in an ambulance. The boomer, the most important thing for the boomer is to be right. [1:054:02] And that's their main thing. They're not a soulful group. They're not, they've been around forever, but they've attained very little wisdom. It's actually kind of impressive. They're the most American generation of people that have ever lived. They're a deeply selfish, self-acgrandizing paranoid, you know, delusional. But one of the things that makes them right is what they have. They go, well, how can I be wrong? Look at this fucking house. Look where we're sitting. I've got 13 foot sealings. Don't tell me you know about Gaza. You know. I have to pee so bad I can't hold it anymore. I didn't want to stop your rant. Let's pee. Let's come back. I don't know. It might be microdosing. There's some brownies that will send you to a new place. I think I'm allowed to do psychedelics, but why not? Well, I think I'm all out. What are you afraid of? I don't know. I don't think it's a coke. No, no It's like the opposite nobody does shrooms and yells about the importance of thalamus romsfeld Did you do that? I Mean I never got the point of any it like I would do acid and then go around a garden city hotel and [1:055:08] Be like, you know these people have made it like I would do acid and then go around a garden city hotel and be like you know these people have made it like I totally didn't whatever was out there whatever deeper lessons about the universe I should have learned I did not you were young you're also New York City comment just passed away very sad I got Kenny DeFarris there's like a really funny guy who was a really good guy too when he was driving his bike in New York City. And it's a fucking life is just it's like crazy. He had to hit by a car. He had to hit by a car. I heard about that. I heard that he was hospitalized. And we're all like putting, you know, raising money and stuff and it's like, no, it's tough. It's tough because he was a great prey. It's tough. Life's a fucking nightmare. Sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah. You know, that's when you hope that there is a mechanism by which, you know, there is whatever you want to call it. And after life. Right. [1:056:01] Yeah. Yeah. Where there's something makes sense because it's hard when you look at things like that You get very frustrated with life. Yeah, you know, you know and then there's the inevitability of our own demise right We only have some yours, but mine for sure You'll they'll put you in some suit and fly you out of there Your your demise is not as inevitable as your friends You're your your demise is not as inevitable as your friends. You're waved to us. You'll be like and then you'll Call us you'll call us from the spaceship ago. I'm trying to work at some type of deal here for some of you I'm the last dude's gonna get on that ship. I'm gonna stay right here. No, I feel like you won't I feel like you'll just be like hey, ma'am No, thanks. I'm not interested. It doesn't seem fun up there. I think it's a mistake I think it's one of those things like I said just because something's hard to do doesn't mean it's good to do You know, I think it's the people trying to make their way across you ever see that show 1883 it's one of the prequels to Yellowstone Yeah, bar bar really gosh really wild wild show [1:057:00] But it's that time's a million like you're gonna land on some planet it's gonna be no air here would would you go up in a future take a look maybe that would be cool I saw Shackner did it you know Jeff Bezos and that you know went up in the it was it called deep blue is that his spaceship something like that yeah I mean maybe maybe but I don't think seems safer than going to the bottom of the ocean. Much safer. That was a tough one. That's submersible. Go see the Titanic. Buck. They sent the distress signal and then it just, that's tough. Did you ever see the CGI recreation of what would happen with that amount of pressure when the whole gives in? It goes, it's just like you explode. It's an explosion. You almost don't feel it right? Oh, you don't feel it You're gone. You're gone instantaneously You're missed you turning a pink mist boom. I mean, it's just the force of an insane amount of weight Yeah, you're you're [1:058:01] Covered by an insane amount of mass. The water is so deep. That's so much fucking weight, man. Yeah. It's so crazy. It's such a crazy thing to do with your dad. Well, it's crazy thing to do with your son. Right, that's a good point. It's probably the billionaire dad's idea. That's right. That wild, crazy old fuck. Yeah. You wanted to take his kid down and just like, let's experience something wild. Let's go on an adventure. That's the thing about the boomers. That's where they're here forever. Here's the cause. They're whole like, they're just like, let's have lunch. So this is the recreation of what it must have looked like. So look how far that is. Look how scary that is. Look how scary that is. 3,800 meters. Oh my God, that's so crazy. That's what it says, right? 3,800 meters. Oh my God. And they're sitting just like that. Yeah, they're just sitting in this fucking stupid tube. [1:059:01] It's possible break point. And then this is what happened. And how fast it would be. And look at this. It's just shh. Boom. 20 milliseconds. Brain pain response is 150 milliseconds. You don't even have a chance. Real time. Boom. That's it. Gone. Slow mo. Shhh. Buh, boo. And they found it, right. Slow mo. Shhh, buh buh ya. And they found it, right? That is what happened. Oh yeah, they found like pieces of shit. They're left from behind it after it implodes. Fucking insane, man. Look at the bodies, watch what happens here. You imagine that experience. Just missed. Let me ask you, do you think that fully shut down the industry of people going to see the Titanic? No. Or is it just giving people the opportunity to say, hey, we're doing it better. We can do better. That's the great thing about American capitalism. There's definitely somebody going, hey, [2:0:00] that was a blessing in disguise because we are able, we have it luxury vessel now, and we have solved all of the problems. Yeah, there's no problems down. In fact, the president is going, right. He's trying to see the Titanic. It is perfectly safe. We, you know, we sadly, when those things happen, it gives us the ability. I could even sell these things. I'm like, yeah, it gives us the ability to just like, get better at what we do. Yeah, I mean, this is the Jurassic Park argument. Yeah. Don't you want to see the Titanic? A few people died, but those dinosaurs were, you know, was an early prototype. Yeah. Yeah. It is an unfortunate situation where you have, probably, I hope they got to see it. The Titanic? Yeah. Oh, do we know that? Well, do we know that far enough down? I think they died on the way down. That sucks. Didn't they, Jamie? I don't think they made it. I hope that if you get down there, by the way, [2:1:00] you're looking at the Titanic through screens. It's a double. Who cares? You look at the ship, right? You could look at it in the same way above there. It's just you're close to it physically. So you're probably got a Kipling roll away down here. Yeah, it to me is like who cares? I'm not impressed. If somebody told me that, if somebody lived with a father of party or dinner and somebody went, I went not even ask a follow up. Who cares? Yeah. Oh my God. Good for you. Oh, death tourism. Oh great. Yeah, who cares? It's a psychopath thing to say, by the way. Yeah. It's a crazy thing to say. I go like, eh, me and my dad went to see the Titanic. It's like, that's not getting you laid. You got to, you know, that's crazy. Well, the first people that go to the moon and go to a moon base. Right. That's gonna be a one. That'll be fun. There's gonna be a lot of that. Like really wealthy people that decide to go to the moon. It's probably gonna be like, a little space tourism could be fun, but there's gonna be accidents. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, we're gonna lose some billionaires. There's gonna be people that go. Yeah, if we decide to go to the moon and we set up a hotel in the moon, you're gonna lose it. [2:2:06] How close is the planet that's closest to us to consistent life? We don't know. That's a good question. I think they're all really far, like years at light speed. So we're not getting anywhere. It depends on what kind of propulsion system we have currently available. See, what we're using now is all we light things on fire and it pushes us forward. Like I was saying about like the rocket ships, like every time they go up, like how much carbon are they burning? Like, what the fuck are they doing? Like how much of that is affect? If we're trying to stop global warming, what are we doing? Shootin' rockets. What's the big deal here right if they can develop some new propulsion system and I think this is my I think that's what all this UAP shit is all about you know I think what's UAP unidentified aerial phenomena got you a new way of saying UFO gotcha when you're hearing all these [2:3:02] disclosure talks and all this stuff I think I think two things are happening simultaneously. I think it's highly likely that there is intelligent life that's aware of us from somewhere else and I bet they visited and I would if I was them. I also think that the government probably has in its possession some new form of propulsion that it uses for drones that is insanely sophisticated and above and beyond what we think is currently available some Gravity-based propulsion system and that's what a lot of these pilots are seeing That's what these things move in ways that no one has ever seen before That's why they can go into the ocean. That's what they can shoot through the sky I think there's some kind of wacky drone That we've developed it's probably true When they're telling you it's aliens. That's the moment I stopped taking aliens I'm it's aliens all the way up until the government starts Yeah, that's a great point you're you're all in on aliens and then when they're like hey Italians [2:4:02] We're like fuck you. It's not aliens. I'm like There's no way you're being honest with us. Oh, we've just decided to be honest with you. For the first time. Right. Yeah. If it was aliens and they did have aliens, they would say it was their shit. They're just trying to, I guess you're right. Just kind of see what, you know, see what this technology can do. Also, it's a great way to get people off your trail. You know, if you just say, look, there's aliens. You know, we have no idea where these crafts are coming from, they're from other worlds. Right. These planets that can sustain life that are light years away, that we're, we're, we're unable to, let's find out where the closest one is. Yeah, where is this planet? Where is the closest planet that's in the Goldilocks zone. They found, like they had this one planet, I think they were trying to call it Earth too, or something like that. But it's theorized, because we don't really have the actual ability to get to that planet and have high speed drones that get, you know, a high definition video. [2:5:01] See the atmosphere. See the atmosphere. Did you ever see that? Which one of the alien movies was it? Were they landed on this planet? One of the more recent ones. The nearest potentially habitable planet to Earth. 14 light years away. So if we can go at the speed of light, it's 14 years to get there. The planet more than four times the massive Earth is one of three that the team detected around a red dwarf star But here's the problem that means if it's four times the mass of earth that means there's four times the gravity of earth Right doesn't that mean that is that direct is it one to one like that? I don't know if that's one to one because the earth is The moon is one quarter the size of Earth, but it has one six Earth gravity. It depends on big that wolf, one six one, or whatever. And there's probably life on that planet. There could be. I would imagine there had to be something. What depends? I don't even know if we know what it's composed of. It might, it says, okay, it says a particularly exciting [2:6:02] fine because all three planets are of low enough mass to be potentially rocky and have a solid surface Potentially, but it also could be a gas giant and the middle planet wolf 1061 c sits within the Goldilocks zone where it might be possible for liquid water It might be possible and maybe even life to exist Yeah, we'd be talking about a 14 year journey at light speed. If we could go to speed a light. And we can't go to speed a light. We can't even come close. Unless these gravity propulsion systems are legitimate, in which case, you could kind of go anywhere instantaneously. The idea of this, the way it's been described by like people like Bob Lazar who's supposedly worked on back engineering these spaceships. Right. Is that it's like if you had a very soft mattress and you put it a men's heavy bowling ball in the center of mattress, you push the mattress down. So it like the uses the gravity to push space time to that spot where it wants to be. [2:7:01] Yeah. And then it unfolds again. It sounds insane. It's insane. And it's beyond our comprehension, my comprehension. It sounds totally like science fiction nonsense. But what is happening, I think, is that, I mean, you know, you could imagine if DARPA was talking about the stealth bomber and things like that, you know, the 70s or whatever. Imagine what they're talking about now. Eric Weinstein has some very interesting ideas about it. He thinks there's a separate branch of physics that was been secretly working on things. He points this one obscure university in New York State. How does it work? Of course. And he kind of knows different. It has an insane physics department like completely unqualified physics department And it's also connected to this hedge fund that does like Bernie made off type numbers There's gotta be what is going on there. There's gotta be something going on. Listen the things that we're unaware of yeah are are [2:8:02] Vast and also there's probably a lot of these billionaires, privately funding stuff, the government's getting in, everybody's kind of getting in. That's kind of the book I'm reading where they're like, they're trying to create fake people, AI people. They're, you know? Those news network. This is what they're doing. But they want to, you know, like, I don't know, man, it's, it's, it's all very creepy and none of it seems like it's all gonna be good. It's not stable. Let's say like when they were creating penicillin, we're like, oh, we get it. You get sick, here's the medicine. This is odd. This does not have a practical application that tends towards, oh, that's gonna be great. Not good for truth. No. Yeah, the Sam Altman thing was really interesting to me because I had him on the podcast. Open AI. Yeah. Very interesting guy. And then he gets kicked out of the company. And then they bring him back. And there's this talk that he wasn't straightforward. And I, you know, many people speculated that they think that Chan G.P.T. has reached the standard to be considered AG, like artificial general intelligence AGI right right which means it's alive [2:9:07] It's me just give this fucking thinking Calculating and Sam Altman left the company Is it brought him back and I'm gonna tell everybody about this and they kicked him out Interest the board removed him and then brought him back on I Don't know what happened. I don't happen Well, the thing is that they were saying that he wasn't being forthcoming or something to those, you know, something that sounds like that. They know what's going on. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. All the AI companies are moving in a sand friend. A lot of the big AI companies are moving in a sand friend. Janus Popus used chat GPT to show that SNL stole from him. Interesting. He has chat GPT, like that's it. Like who popularized that term, that's it, and said Janus Popus used it for his character. Interesting. That's what chat GPT is though. [2:010:00] Chat GPT said that. That's interesting. Yeah. Well, it's certainly a terrible time to be, like one of these people who is paranoid. Oh yeah. Like I often think my mother passed away, but she was paranoid. She was a schizophrenic now. It's like are they schizophrenics? Right or are they because if you are unduly paranoid now? Oh my god It is just a daily dose of fucking stories That are like Jesus Christ and we've gotten to the point where Alex Jones Yeah, despite all his troubles, makes sense. Not just makes sense, but a lot of people are like, hey, what did he say? Right. Right. Now he's back on Twitter or X. Yeah, well, he's just wild. He's going to do a daily show, pointing out a lot of things over the years. Some of them have been correct. [2:011:01] A lot of them have been correct a lot of them so you can't discount now some of the mornet but you can't discount what he says anymore as easily as you could have no not as easily prior to so much insanity has gone on over the last three years it like so many people like what the fuck what the erosion of trust in everything, from the government media church, every institution we have is completely kind of collapsed in terms of how we view them, and we now see how politically motivated they are, how corrupt they are, how criminal they are. And now that we're just left in a world of individuals, some of whom are truth seeking, some of whom are sociopath, some of whom are sociopath, some of whom are funny, some of whom are whatever, but now we're just kind of left with a world of people trying to figure it out on their own. And it's pretty scary. Because some of those people are gonna build cults and communes and everybody's gonna drink their poison [2:012:03] and they're trying to go find a hellbop comment and some of them are gonna build media companies some of them are gonna build AI Bots some of them are gonna build and some of them are going to You know come up with new religions. I mean But it's it seems to be now that everybody's operating outside of the institutions. Yes. And that the people that are still operating within the institutions are almost taking cues all of the honest pop is like from people on the outside. So it does seem like the institutions are rotting a bit. Well, they're trapped. Yeah, especially the media. They're so trapped in the television format. Yeah. That format sucks. Well it's just people not wanting to lose their job. Yep. That's all it is. It's people protecting their own revenue source. That's all it is. It'll go on as long as they can. [2:013:00] It's the most basic human desire to protect your family and your money. And that's a thing that no one ever thought was going to go away. And no one thought it was going to go away. And now it's going away in the pace of it. And the pace of change is disorienting. And people are like, what the fuck's going on? And now we're in the Wild West. And the Wild West has its problems. It has a ton of benefits. We all know them. Yeah. A lot of information, you know, but then the Wild West has a lot of problems. And it's deep fakes. It's the AI stuff. It's what isn't real. What did and did not happen? Right. A lot of charismatic, cunning people are going to be able to manipulate this technology and, you know, rile people up about all manner of events that may or may not have happened. Yeah. Wait till they come with fake police shootings that didn't happen. [2:014:02] Wait till they just start manufacturing footage from something that did not happen. Right. And there's people in the street riding about a thing that did not happen. How far away from we from that? A week. Because foreign actors could easily do something like that. If they wanted to start Oh, for sure. Chaos. Dude, for sure. Oh, that's the type of stuff that you want to so chaos and you could do stuff like that Combined and people wouldn't tear or sell yeah, and dude people wouldn't believe that it didn't happen They go the government's covering it up right there saying it's right. Well, there's so much confusion That's the big problem with not having a main source of information that's reliable. That's right. And then people have to search around a lot. A lot of people don't do it. They don't search around. Just make it in four wars. Just make it in four wars. What's the worst that could happen? Just if we got to do one, he's been right enough of the time. He's been right more than CNN. Just give, just have it be enforces our national news that's our BBC [2:015:11] I mean if you think about what they did he think about what these governments In conjunction what is this back on Twitter? Yeah, I was just saying that when I was getting all day Oh, yeah, he's back on Twitter, but he also has a new show that he's doing right at the end of the day He's gonna do like after he does his main show. He's gonna break down all the different things that they talked about. What I'm gonna do is when I'm on that next week, I'm gonna be out FaceTime CAA on my agents and go, hey, because the thing is they can't even get ready anymore because they just need to sell tickets. When you can't even wear on the podcast, it was one of my favorite times. It's one of the greatest things I've ever been a part of and done. And I think it's like this iconic moment of like encapsulating the world at one of the wildest times ever before an election, before a contentious election. [2:016:00] Yeah. And it was, yeah. I mean, it was an amazing time. In the red pill, the old studio. Yeah. It was amazing. It was fun. Yeah. It was a fun time. It was a good time and he was great. He was really sharp and really. The fucked up thing is how many things he was right about. Like when he was talking about like polio being something that kids are getting from this vaccine and half ago they had a stopgivant. What are you talking about? And he pulls up this AP story like holy shit. Well all the people that he calls out listen, we always talk about this stuff right. He infiltrated bohemian grove and stuff like that. It's like it's it's blatantly obvious to everybody that all of this secretive You know whatever you want to call it Whether it's you want to say deep state or whatever it is They don't want anything they're talking about out there The real rationale for the decisions that are being made. They don't want out there [2:017:04] They don't want that out there. That's why Harvard and Yale and these places exist. That's why all of these secret societies exist. They're all groups that create loyalty amongst a group of very people that could be very powerful. Certainly, they're usually very rich. And that's why all these things exist. And then this guy comes around and breaks into one of them with cameras and shows all of those people in cloaks, Moxacrificing an owl or whatever, or Moxacrificing a child, I think the effigy of a child with a big owl, you know, it's creepy. It would be creepy if those people were all broke. Not only are they not broke, they're the most powerful people in the world. It's doubly creepy, right? Even if it is just a big orgy, whatever they do, there's a lot that they don't want you to know. Yeah. And the fact that guys that came around there, [2:018:00] they don't, that is unsustainable. They don't want that. No, that's not good I remember something I was gonna talk about before what you were on a rant We're talking about people existing in These AI realms yes that this is probably gonna are people going to get Indicted for crimes that are committed in virtual reality What I was thinking is these things are gonna be run by the same kind of companies that run YouTube, right? Now imagine the restrictions that YouTube puts on content. YouTube would take you off of yet anything that didn't go with the COVID narratives. They'll take you off of yet if anything that doesn't go with the gender narrative, they'll demonetize you, they'll limit your reach, they'll shadow ban you, they'll do whatever the fuck they want. Now imagine if that is life. Imagine if most life now takes place in some sort of a digital realm that's owned by a corporation. And then that corporation decides to impose its ideology and all the people that exist [2:019:03] in that realm. Well, it's also like one of the things that was interesting in this book was when does a crime start? This is very interesting. Oh, does it thought were the thought? That's right. At what point does a crime when we stop it? Because we have all this metadata, showing what we can create a composite of you and what you're thinking about. Yeah. When can we stomp it? These are all very interesting things that are going to come up, that are coming up right now. And these are debates that are going to have to be had as more and more of our life exists on these virtual platforms. This is only the beginning, right? Like we're still in the infancy of like, what this is all gonna look like. I don't think we can even guess. Right? I think it's gonna be so fucking bizarre, so quick. And the thing is, if we get hit by something, like whatever took out the ancient Egyptians and the Civilization, if we get hit by something, [2:020:01] there will be no evidence. There'll be everything. Everything's gonna be on hard drives. That's right. You're never gonna get it. That's right. No one's gonna know what the fuck Aristotle said. No one's gonna know. No one's gonna go, someone wore this coat. Yeah. They're gonna find this coat. They're gonna go, they were wearing this. He had a spear and he wore that and he hunted shields. Right. They know they're never going to read the work of Feynman. It's all gone. The books are going to be insanerated It'll all be hard drives will be rotted out and we're gonna have to do it all over again And I think that's what they did I think that's what people when you look at ancient Greece I think those are the people doing it all over again And I think the real people that did it at the first were the Egyptians Whoever was around at that time that didn't have those insane monuments around at that time that didn't have those insane monuments. But will we know that they did? That's like the best evidence you could ever have in front of your face. There's a piece of this puzzle that's missing. Look at that. Definitely a big piece of the puzzle that's missing. And it is interesting to think about, [2:021:00] because it's about 2024. If you look back at 2014 and look at the changes To our society in in 10 years Expodited by the pandemic and things like that right yeah You imagine 2034 It's gonna get wild. Oh my God, it's gonna get wild. That's gonna be like. You know, is it gonna be where me and you are able to meet for coffee in a virtual world of our choosing? Most certainly. That's already happening. That's already happening. The Lex Friedman Mark Zuckerberg podcast they did. Yeah, I got the same. Yeah, the same. They look exactly like them and it's just avatars talking. Look, eye movement, lip movement, everything. They're wearing these goggles. And so that seems to be coming. That's 100%. That's coming out. That's gonna streamline. It's gonna be small and then it's eventually gonna be in your body. And then when it's it's inevitable and then also [2:022:10] Communication with people of all these different languages instantaneously will have it either will have a universal language Or will have instantaneous Translation to the language of your choice. Yeah, and there'll be no confusion anymore It's gonna feel silly that we were debating whether the background actor who was a hot dog guy could be reproduced with that consent. Right, right, right. And I understand why we gotta have all those discussions, but things are gonna get so crazy. Yeah. We're gonna look back at that goal. That was quaint. They're doing this. There's a dam and it's leaking and they're doing this with their fingers. And it's not enough. That thing's going to come down and I don't think there's anything we could do about it. I think AI actors are inevitable. AI films that are amazing, that are entirely designed, written, performed by AI. I think it's inevitable. And I think [2:023:00] when the first one comes out, that's a fucking banger., we're gonna see ball on board. Because you can fail with- What does this jammy? Have you seen this commercial going around? No. Definitely. I'll play it for you. It's pretty interesting. AI pin. You've seen on TV a lot over the last few days. So it's a pin you carry with you instead of having a cell phone. Right, you wear this. He's nice Yeah, so this is sort of like right right down would it be nicer if that was embedded in your wrist? Just give me the chip Yeah, and by the way Human to human experiences when it comes to customer service and things like that They've been declining because everyone's so used to the internet like people are like person to person You walk into a store now people are running away from you. They don't want to help you. It's better. Let's just do this [2:024:02] So she said place long from last time we were here. It's recording stuff all day. Oh boy. Translating it and putting in some sort of files that can go and reference it. Oh, the NSA is gonna get you. All right, you could ask it to recall stuff. What was Tim saying yesterday at two o'clock? Oh, well don't do that. Don't do that. Fun, fun times. Two o'clock was a rough hour. There will be no more secrets in the future. There will be mind reading, will be everywhere. You will never get away from your thoughts, other people reading your thoughts. Everyone's gonna know how much money you make, where you live, everything about you. It's gonna get fucking squirrely. It's your life, but for everyone. It's like the life of a celebrity where people know those things. But way more, if they will know your thoughts, that every moment will be intrusive. Intrusive. I mean, there's going to be people that decide to opt out, shut it off, but then I guarantee you're not going to be able to go to the Christmas Village. Like it's going to be the holiday village. You probably can't fly unless you ever show up. I want not gonna let you do it. I wanna know if you're a terrorist, you know? [2:025:05] That's right. You can't fly in this plane. What if I think you're gonna take over the cockpit? We're gonna live in a time of certainty. And that's gonna be scary because it does kinda take some of the romance interests. Like some of the excitement at a life is knowing everything. And in the middle of all that. Yeah. That's when AI is going to just start running shit. And start going, get it, get it. Isn't the fun of sitting across the table from somebody going, what's that guy or woman like, why the where they at bout? Right. There's something interesting. Obviously. Interesting about it. You've done it more than anyone. Like to me, it's like if, if, if we just live in a world where everybody's thoughts are kind of available. It's gonna, it seems like. I think it's coming, man. Yeah, no, no, no, I don't doubt it. I don't think we can stop it. And I think it's gonna be the thing that transcends us. Yeah. The thing that moves us from what we are now into what we're gonna become. And I think it's gonna happen technologically. I don't think it's going to be a biologic. What do you think? What do you put a year on it? 2030? No, I don't even think we have that much time. [2:026:05] No. I think we have a couple of years. I think we have a couple of years before things get real strange because I think artificial general intelligence is going to emerge. And when they start implementing it and if they decide to implement it in government, who's not going to be on board? If artificial intelligence can make all transactions completely equitable and fair, and morally just and righteous, and make an even distribution of government finance, take care of all the complex problems. Well, that's what they'll shed in society. That's what I've got there. But if they can sneak their way in, if they can sneak their way in and run things, and then what if artificial general intelligence decides that eugenics is a really good idea? Because it's what we do with certain animals. You know, we don't let bad dogs that like to bite people. We don't let them breed. For sure. Yeah, what if that happens? A little happen. It could get real weird. And if artificial general intelligence, [2:027:06] once they start using it to make better technology, wow, that's gonna be cool. Doesn't it feel like comedy will be one of the last things, though, to get affected? For the biological humans that remain the last days of their lives, they'll be chuckling and drinking and smoking cigarettes and trying to avoid cancer. And then the new humans will take over. And they won't want comedy. They don't want it. They're not gonna care. They're not gonna care. They can just be happy anytime they want. They're just gonna be able to manipulate their own. Do you think you'll ever interview an AI bot? 100%. Interesting. Yeah, I think there'll be someone sitting there like that lady from fucking X Machina. That's crazy for me and I I You'll be like thanks for doing this. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah guarantee you that's a crazy thought that X Machina movie is so fucking It's so perfect for right now go please it's one of my all-time favorite movies Why I've watched that movie at least five times someone listening this go watch that fucking movie because that's common [2:028:05] That's common. I love the end of it. I won't give it away. The end of it's crazy. It's amazing. The whole movie's amazing. The guy who plays the dude from Star Wars that plays the genius guy that invents it. What's that guy's name? But maybe we need this. You know, if we're just going to find about Trump forever and you know, like maybe we just Oscarize it. Maybe a couple of bots. Maybe a botter to end. This would be the last gas or biological existence that the Trump election. It's so funny that you're probably right and that's what we're doing. It's like the last thing human beings can do is yell about Donald Trump. Yep. This is it on these apps. Trump, Putin, G-Jing, Ping. These are the less human leaders we have. Yeah. All right, Tim Dillon, I love you. Joe Rogan. You the fucking man. Thank you so much. My pleasure, brother. We're gonna have fun tonight. Yes, I'm excited. Thanks everybody. Watch Tim Dillon's show. It's fucking amazing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys.