They Call These Chimps Lion Killers | Joe Rogan and Forrest Galante

Have you seen that photo or the footage rather of the jaguar that they found in Arizona? Yeah, yeah, that's really interesting too, right amazing. They're starting to make their way up from Mexico It's such a weird region that because here's this huge Sonoran desert that you think none of these tropical animals can make it across and for whatever reason Southern Arizona gets jaguars and coda Mundi and peccary and all these like tropical animals Yeah, what what the hell I don't know the answer what the hell's going on that all these rainforest creatures are making it through this Thousand-mile stretch of desert and into southern Arizona Probably bored Could be looking for a cool cool places to visit. Yeah, you know, maybe they I mean maybe it's just like a natural instinct To roam and expand your territory. There he is. Yeah, look at that thing amazing. That's an incredible animal So beautiful and it's huge huge there. They're 200 plus pounds, right? It's a big fucking aggressive cat Mm-hmm. What's bigger a jaguar or a leopard leopard leopard? Yeah, and that's even bigger But it's such a beautiful animal too and apparently they were all over North America jaguars time Yeah, like that area like Texas during the place. Yeah, interesting I didn't even know that but um, when did they I mean they were pushed out of I feel like that might not be true though I feel like they were they were more numerous in like Arizona and like the southwest makes sense I mean, you know, we had so much megafauna here back in the day There would have been a lot of prey for them now because of the fact you spend so much time in The wild and you know and that you have this interest in these What would you call cryptozoology animals? Well, I'm not a crypto guy So just to be clear and nothing against crypto guys, but I don't do Loch Ness or Bigfoot or anything I'm a true wildlife biologist. So I only focus on wildlife so not to interrupt you, but I'm just very very Structured in the sense that I really only look for animals that we we have an understanding of right? Yeah, right Well, yeah, but the Bigfoot one is The the most compelling but also probably the most bullshit. I think there's a mix there I think people believe that they've seen certain things You know, it's it's do I think that there could have been large primates that we attribute to Bigfoot Sure, whether they're still here or not whether people have ever seen them. I I'm so like not well read on that Isn't it interesting though that if there was one it would probably be The most spectacular find ever. Absolutely. Meanwhile, we have chimps and bonobos, right? And you know, we have all these things that are real Well, cuz there's so much like lore and culture associated with it now, right and not just like our Western culture, but like Things of big hairy creatures and like everything I mean it would be like this mind-blowing discovery Have you ever went and looked for the Bondo ape? No, I know what it is But no never gone and they're sure that's a real thing. Really? Yeah they've got skulls and hair samples and photographs and video and For people don't know what we're talking about. It's a gigantic chimpanzee, right? I guess six foot tall chimpanzee which is just fucking nuts and it does walk erect, right? Yeah, sometimes yeah There's a camera trap photo. There's a guy named dr. Carl. Oh, no, it's not a doctor things names Carl Harmon Carl Carl something Harmon is that I'm on I'm on Carl. I'm on and he's a Who's this Swiss wildlife photographer? Anyway, he set up a bunch of camera traps and he got one on walking. I mean, it's it's freaky And there's some photos of these gentlemen that shot one Near an airstrip, huh? And it's fucking huge. Yeah, I don't know how big the men are right? They might be small and in front of them But it is without a doubt like one of the biggest chimpanzees you've ever seen since saying yeah They have a crest on their head their skull has a crest like a gorilla, huh? Yeah, it has like the the bone of the skull Which have a picture of that I'd love to see it I'm not not familiar with the anatomy of them Yeah, it's um, it's really interesting because I think for the longest time they didn't think they're real as a part of that Michael Crichton book Congo, okay, remember there was a really terrible movie Fucker yeah, that's insane. Yeah, that's one of them and that's think that doesn't look like forced perspective You know what? I mean? It looks like they're right in front of them and that's one from the early 1900s. I believe where these guys shot one and They were like, what is this? This is just giant chimp Go see if you can find the one of there right above is the one that where it's walking right there. Yeah Oh, that's the camera trap. Wow walking and he's erect. Yeah, he's erect and he's you know Is he these people that one of one of the sightings they saw one walk by a truck like walk across a road They said it was the same height as the truck. That's insane. So they have like, you know, like a Toyota Helix or something, right? And it's literally the size the height like a six foot tall man But a giant chimp and I mean, you know to go back to the Bigfoot thing You can totally see where we get that from right? You look at this huge primate that's the size of a human being and your brain instantly goes It's mythological and I'm pretty sure that they didn't have photos of this thing until the 20th century Like the late 20th century. No kidding. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, it's a trip man This they nest on the ground like like a gorilla. Yeah. Yeah Wow and The locals have two different names for two different names for chimps They call them tree beaters and lion killers, huh? And the tree beaters are the ones that are up in the trees a smaller chance Sure, the lion killers are these big ones that live on the ground and apparently there's some either video footage or There was some eyewitness account of one of them eating a leopard No way, so it was a dead leopard that they were eating whether or not they killed it or they found it But they were eating this fucking thing regardless like to be a Primate at the top of the food chain eating a big cat. I mean, that's nuts. It's nuts Would you ever think of going there and trying to find those things? Fuck? Yeah, they're deep in there great Yeah, I think they're in a place called Bili Bili in the Congo. That's where they think they are They've isolated a population of them there really my mom just got back from the Congo and she still does like her own adventure stuff And she was saying it's just like she's been all over as well. She's like it's mind-blowing Like there's so much remoteness and unstudied area that there could be all kinds of things goddamn, man