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Forrest Galante is an international wildlife adventurer, conservationist, author of "Still Alive: A Wild Life of Rediscovery" and host on Discovery Channel. www.instagram.com/forrest.galante
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It's so crazy when they introduce animals to an island and it winds up fucking everything up like Galapagos Island Yeah, and I'm sure you're familiar with the Judas Judas goats Judas goats are those the ones in the Galapagos. Do you know how they do that? I eradicate goats It's really interesting not from the helicopters. Yeah. Well, this is how they do it They cast you goats like to hang out together, right? But sometimes hard to locate them sure so they put a radio collar on one goat They castrate it and then they let it loose and they gun down all the goats around it and let that go go find the rest The goats know what he goes and finds the rest of the goats and they gun down those goats because they have the radio collar Yeah, so these what is this jamie picture of a Judas goat? I guess was a he's just white How sad is that single goats life he's like new friends fuck yeah helicopter So I'm actually heading there on Monday. We all goes yeah They make you take your shoes off right and scrub to make sure they have weird seeds in the bottom of your shoes I have to stop eating seeds quarantine for 48 hours when we arrived. I'm eating seeds so you don't shit it out exactly Wow Quarantine for 48 hours. Yep Wow Why is there so much concern about this one area? I mean, it's the dawn of evolution You know, it's where Darwin came up with a theory of evolution due to the finches It's it has been destroyed in some aspects and it's been The habitat has been fixed in a lot of places. There's been great conservation efforts And personally, I love what they're doing because they're trying to keep it pristine You know, I think it's fantastic that there's a quarantine I think it's great that I'm not supposed to eat seeds for two weeks before going there And it's it's to keep it as perfect as it is now the island that I'm going to with with my small team Has like nobody ever stepped foot on it. It's an active volcano. It erupts every year It's this crazy harsh environment. We have to have a new pair of boots every day because it melts melts and shreds your boots Just walking on it. Whoa. Yeah, it's been described as hell on earth. So I'm stoked Wow No, what kind of protective gear do you have to wear other than your boots? Just long sleeve clothing? I mean hot does it get it's so the guy was telling me it's like 45 degrees Celsius. So that's it's well over a hundred And yeah, and that's you know, we got to be careful about water and hiking and there's just there's a lot of elements But that's the thing is I'm looking for an animal nobody's seen in a very long amount of time So you got to go to these places. Nobody's going Wow That's incredible. You know, it's it's interesting the idea of invasive species too, right because like Hawaii is a good example Yeah, Hawaii there's been talk of getting rid of pigs Yeah and a lot of the natives are like well slow down because if they're what we hunt them we eat them right if they're Invasive then what are we right? The pigs were here right around the same time the people were there and they've we've existed together There they need each other and it's culture, you know at that point It's it's Polynesian culture to eat a fire roasted pig and hunt your pig And so it's a delicate balance like Hawaii is a perfect example. There's mongi So we're introduced that destroyed the birds and there's turtles. There's frogs There's all kinds of things that have been brought in there, but none of those are culturally significant Whereas the pig as you're saying is a huge cultural significance So where is the balance? Well, one of the best examples of that would be like Lanai because Lanai has this insane population of axis deer We go and bow hunt them there. Yeah every year. They're delicious and yep, they're plentiful and it's one of the most Really ethical hunts because you have to hunt them right in they they're so overpopulated There's 20,000 of them on an island with 3,000 people. Yep, and have you ever been till Lanai? I have yeah I was diving there spearfishing there. Yeah, I see all the axis deer everywhere. That's every man is it's great And they're so beautiful their spots and yeah, they're amazing at them and you know, I'm all for it Like hunting is a tool for conservation Absolutely. Yeah, but it's just bizarre that they did that Yeah They decided to let deer loose on an island with nothing to eat the deer but people right and then when this is done It was like King Kamehameha, which is what year was that? I couldn't say a long time ago Yeah, long time ago. So back then they I mean, I don't even know if they had guns I mean, how are they hunting these things back then bows and spears? Probably right and and they brought them over from Asia. Right? Yep. Yep. They're from Asia same thing with New Zealand, right? There's access deer there's goats. There's all kinds of things or not access but red deer. There's all kinds of things down there Yeah, and same thing they're all brought in for sport. Yeah, New Zealand's a weird one, right? So is Australia They brought a lot of stuff over there from yep from Europe, but New Zealand Specifically, they were trying to make it like a hunter's paradise, and I think it is right. Tell me wrong No, it is. Yeah, it's a weird one. Yeah, it's mostly high fence You're gonna love this so on to my extinct animal thing. They took moose into New Zealand They took like ten of them small population believe that they've been hunted out. You know, they shot the last one blah blah blah blah There's one guy crazy-looking dude long hair long beard like nuts looking guy and he's been on the hunt not hunt hunt But like trying to prove that the New Zealand moose is still there. He's found antler sheds He's found bedding sites some guy even got a picture of one standing on a rock and you know moose to me It's 100% of moose right so they're in theory somewhere down the South Island There's one or two or three of these super elusive moose that have been in New Zealand for like 50 years. Whoa Wow, well New Zealand is so fucking rugged. Yeah, there's a Friend of mine has been there my friend Adam Green Tree. He's been there He lives in Australia and he goes there to hunt tar and you know They live in the on the steep steepest craggiest Shale where the rocks real slippery and it's just like cold as shit and yeah really high altitude and you've seen them before right? Yeah, yeah I have it looks like a science fiction animal there as As me and my friend might me and the guys I work with like to say stranger than fiction You look at it and you're like that's not a real creature like some kid drew that. Yeah Like a big old shaggy weird looking thing. Yeah area where they think they are in New Zealand the moose Yeah, did you see that picture of the one on the rock? Yeah sticking out right? Yeah, oh that's not a mess. That's a moose. That's the last one that was take last picture taken. Oh, there's 1952 There's a recent one though. There's one from like two or three years ago And I looked at I'm like, that's a moose like I don't know who's saying it's not but it's a moose Wow Yeah from 1952. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a hundred percent of moose, right? But again, how weird is it that there's animals that you know are there and then there's animals like we must find this They spend incredible amounts of time and all these resources is that it that's all yeah, that's a hundred percent of that's a freaking moose That's no doubt about it. See it's what I'm saying People yeah, that doesn't even make sense that anybody would argue that right? That's a pretty clear picture, but that's not proof because they need genetic material. They need fur they need something. What do they think that is a cloud? Exactly a rubber moose that someone stuck there to goof on people are they like arguing that somebody could have computer generated it? All those you know all those and I appreciate it right as a scientist I appreciate the fact that you have to have proof right but it does get to the point of ridiculousness Yeah, well, it's certainly possible. Yeah, it's certainly possible that they've I mean, especially when you're looking at that insanely dense terrain, right?