Joe Rogan - Steroids in the Olympics

He doesn't dope him up, he's the guy that tests them. He was like, he thought he was getting a guy who was like the Russian USADA that was going to tell him what the cheaters use. But it turned out, along the way, everything got exposed and he was like, look, I did this for 40 years, I dope everybody, everybody on drugs. And like he said, every fucking single athlete that was in the Olympics was on some shit. And then he explained how they did it and everybody was like, what the fuck? And then they were going to pull the Russians. And then the other thing that he exposed is the collusion between WADA and the IOC, and that they all work for each other and they switch fucking roles and they go back and forth with each other, and that they're not going to punish the Russians. But what they're doing now is they kind of have to because all of that movie, I mean that movie literally changed the Olympics. I guess what I'm saying is when I did Bigger, Stronger, Faster, and we're going around talking to the experts, you know, a lot of the experts, they would mention Don Catlin. And I'd be like, what's up with Don Catlin? And they'd say, oh man, if you get him to talk, I mean, the sports world will just crumble. And everybody kept saying that. Like I heard it from like four different people that are experts. They just said like nobody would believe in sports if that guy exposed what he knew. And so then I interviewed Don Catlin, but he just laughed when I asked him that. He's like, they don't know what they're talking about, you know, kind of thing. And I said, well, look, Charles Gasalis is an expert. He said the whole sports world will crumble if they knew what you knew. What do you know? And he said, I don't know anything. You know? And so it was kind of, you're never going to get an answer like that. Something has to get exposed through a different way. So I shouldn't, I can't say, uh, without a shadow, beyond a shadow of a doubt that that's the truth. But I'm suspicious of that guy, I should say, and suspicious of our system. I don't think they're the only ones doing it. There's no way they're the only ones doing it. China had a record number of gold medals when they hosted it. But I think we're doing it just as bad as they are. I wonder. I mean, we're doing it better, obviously. We're not getting caught. I mean, so when you say we as a country state sponsored American doping program, I don't think state sponsored. But I think like maybe some people doing something somewhere, some sort of network, some shenanigans. Look, if there's one Balco, there's 10. There's got to be more than one. Yeah, you think so? There's got to be more than one guy that's like, you know, telling people what to take. There's a lot of that shit out there.