Joe Rogan - Jeff Ross on Free Speech: Bad Taste is Not a Crime!

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Jeff Ross

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Jeff Ross is a comedian, writer, producer, and director, also known as the “Roastmaster General.”

Dave Attell

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Dave Attell is a stand-up comic, actor, and writer. Look for his new Netflix special "Hot Cross Buns" on March 26.www.daveattell.com

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Have you seen this TV show on Amazon called The Man in the High Castle? No, what is it? It's a future, it's basically America if the Nazis won the war. Whoa. And they partner with the Japanese. Whoa. And the Japanese own California, Northern California, and the Nazis own the rest of the country. And the Midwest is sort of a no man's land. So New York is Nazi New York. They split it at the Rockies. But Japanese... Whoa. Is this a series? It's a Philip... It's the third season, I'm obsessed with it. Philip Dick is the sci-fi writer, so he's classic. It's one of his books. Oh no, shit. He's the mayor of New York. He's great, this guy. That guy's been in a lot of stuff. He's really good. What is his name? I forgot the actor's name. Rufus... Rufus... Seawell. Rufus Seawell? Is that how I say it? Yeah. He's really good. He plays the governor of New York, the abrogrubanfoofer. The abrogrubanfoofer is the governor of New York? Fuhrer is the governor of New York? Yeah, but it's a very interesting show. Basically, New York cops wearing Nazi armbands. So there's still New York cops like, hey, the Fuhrer says I gotta give you a ticket. You know, it's like that. And it's fascinating how they do the show. But what's interesting about Japanese culture in the show is you see the fancy class, the aristocratic class of Japan runs essentially San Francisco. And you see how they're very snobby and very particular. And they don't really like to mix with the Americans. Wow. With the Anglos. It's fascinating show. That's a really... That guy, Philip K. Dick, you know? Am I saying his name right? Yeah. He really is. He's really super cool in terms of the sci-fi stuff. And you know. What else has he written? I've seen, there was another movie that I saw of his like within the last two years. You're right. Could you bring up his books? Because I would know. What other movies did he do? Or did they do, they adapt of his movies? What do we got here? So this guy wrote that show? Oh, Scanner Darkly. Wow, that's right. Damn. He wrote a lot of shit. The adjustment team is another movie, too. The adjustment bureau. Yeah, OK. Interesting. Yeah, the art direction is really cool. The idea of not sufying America. You know what's interesting, too, is you can still do that in a movie where you can still play Nazis as long as they're, you know, the bad people and some historical thing or some something that's going on now. That's really the only way you could portray Nazis. Like you're not allowed to be a Nazi for Halloween. Sorry. Right? You can't. Like people have said, like people have tried it, and you get called out for it. Like there's rules now. You can be a Nazi if you want to get on that show. What did your kids go for Halloween? Did they do that? Or did they even have it? Yeah, they were mermaids. It was very adorable. They were mermaids. But if you're dressing up for Halloween, you could be so many terrible things. You could be vampires and werewolves and demons and everybody's OK. Cool, cool. Dictators. I went as a plastic straw. Genghis Khan. You could be Genghis Khan. Can't be Hitler. You could be Saddam Hussein and people will laugh. Yes. Saddam Hussein. We got him. We got that guy. But if you dress as Mengele, you've ruined the party. If you dress as Osama bin Laden, that might get your ass kicked. You might get your ass kicked for that one. That was too soon. But if you dress like, you could probably dress like the president of Iran. What's that dude's name? That dude that came over here and said a bunch of crazy shit about gay people. Abu Shabuja, ba-ba-ba. Do you know what I'm talking about? Let's just talk about it for a second. I remember when people were offended that there was an Anne Frank Halloween costume. Now, if the point of talking about the Holocaust or something like that is never forget, and a 14-year-old in a non-mocking way wants to embody Anne Frank, why is that offensive? I don't understand that. But they're never going to do it non-mocking. Every time you're making a Halloween costume, you're almost always trying to be silly, right? You're always trying to try. Look, Anne Frank. He's hiding in the attic. Halloween-a-cost. But I don't know. It all depends on, to me, your intentions. 100%. You should be able to wear whatever the fuck you want. That's why I never understood when that Prince Harry got all the shit for dressing like a Nazi. He's like, I don't know. Maybe. When did he dress like a Nazi? It was a costume party. Yeah. And he dresses as a Nazi. And then all the World War II veterans, like, why would you do that? Because it doesn't mean he's glorifying it, does it? I guess, if he's the Prince. Right, but you could be a Mongol. You could be one of the Mongol horde tore through Europe. But he's also a symbol unto itself. He's a symbol of the English royalty and all that kind of stuff. I guess because it's hundreds of thousands of years later. But he grew up all right. He got out of it. That motherfucker's living under a microscope, though. But he can get away with it. But pretty much no one can get away with being a Nazi anymore. There was a guy from North Carolina or something like that recently. Him and his son were Nazis for Halloween. There's one person that can get away with it. And I can't say too much because we haven't released it yet. Gilbert Gottfried. Oh, I know what he's saying. If you're a Jew, you can get away with it. Yeah. I don't know about that. No, you can. Yeah. Everybody's upset. Well, that was one of the things about Roseanne, too. Yes. Go ahead. You're right. I mean. Remember when she did that? She dresses as a Nazi? Yeah. I always think that stuff's funny. When I was a 13-year-old kid in Hebrew school or grade school learning about the First Amendment, just one of the reasons I became a comedian was because I used to just draw swastikas on my notebooks just because I knew I could. I was like, they would teach us about dictatorships. I would go, wow. So in any other country, they can't do this. And I would just do it, make myself smile, and then cross it out. And I go, in any other country, I'd get my tongue cut out. I go, that's the most beautiful thing is that you can say fucked up, terrible. You can dress like an asshole. Like, bad taste is not a crime.