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Forrest Galante is an international wildlife adventurer, conservationist, author of "Still Alive: A Wild Life of Rediscovery" and host on Discovery Channel. www.instagram.com/forrest.galante
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You know, and I think one of the reasons for that is we have a rate of something like 2,000 species a year being deemed extinct. Right? So when you have that many animals being deemed extinct every year, there's flags being put up. Is it really extinct? Have we looked everywhere? And so this, you know, I don't want to say I was the first, but I feel like I was in that wave of first people to start looking into extinction. As far as ongoing animals, wrongfully deemed extinct. And now it's like mainstream in the biology world. It's like there's a lot of people that are like, I'm going to go see if I can find this thing. Is it because it's a romantic sort of thing? There's a lot of cash. Like if you can find a seem to be extinct, barbarusa. I think so. I think it's very romantic, you know, as opposed to just setting out to study something that we know that's there, this like harrowing journey to find this creature that the world has written off. It's very romantic. You have you ever heard of the Aurang Pendek? Oh, this is like a, this is a cryptid, right? Yes. What is, I've heard this word. It's a little tiny monkey person. That's right. Did we talk about this last time? We might have. Yeah. Well, I'm very repetitive. That's okay. I don't mind. It's still fun. It's not in my wheelhouse, you know, like the cryptids, the Loch Ness monsters. I think that one they think is in Vietnam. I think it's in Vietnam and maybe some other parts of Southeast Asia. And the most people thought it was nonsense until the Homo Floriensis, until they found out about that hobbit person that lives in the island of Flores. And then they're like, okay, hold on or lived, as recently as 14,000 years ago. Right. So when they found out about that thing, they're like, well, maybe these little fuckers are still hanging around out there somewhere. Yeah. Just you're dealing with incredibly dense jungle and they're very wary. If you're a person stomping through the jungle, something that lives there hears you a mile away. For sure. You're not sneaking up on a monkey. No. Well, we, this year I went into Songdong, which is the world's largest cave. That was only discovered in 1995. It's this massive opening, six miles of underground cave. You know, you don't see daylight for two days. Six miles. It's, you should look at the pictures of this place. You'll love it. I mean, it's just this, it looks like something out of Avatar. I mean, this cave, you can fit New York city skyscrapers inside of it. It's so big. It has its own weather system. What? Yeah. It's, it's... Where is this? Song, so it's in the Anamite mountain range between Vietnam and Laos. And we got to go into it this year because we were looking for this habitat. In fact, this is my show that comes out tonight. We were looking for this habitat. Where is it on? So people can hear it. Animal Planet. Extincture alive tonight at 9 p.m. on Animal Planet. We go into Songdong Cave. Set your DVRs, kids. Plug. So let's see this. Oh my God. Yeah. There's, you know, Hang Song doing, that's the entrance to it. And like, look at the size of it. The scope of it is massive. It's something to compare it to. What am I looking at? I'm seeing the... Those are little tents. Oh! Oh, those are tents. There's full lake systems in there. Oh my God. That's inside the tent. I mean, that's inside the cave. Yeah. Look at the wedding cake. That one right there. That's called the wedding cake. It's, yeah, that one. It's this pyres. I mean, it's just, it's the most fantastic looking thing. There's a person standing on top of that little pyre right there. Oh my God. Yeah. That's insane. It's insane. More people have summited Everest than have been through that cave. Wow. Well, people summon Everest every day now. Wow. That's why. But yeah, so we... That's the wedding cake. Oh my God. That's incredible. I have a picture just like that that I'm very proud of. My God. That's so spectacular. But what's amazing is about two thirds of the way through the system. You can see where, what you're looking at is areas where the cave roof has collapsed and there's isolated pockets of ecosystem, right? So we were talking about the pygmy people that could live in the forests of Vietnam. This is the kind of, my point is this giant six mile long cave with these huge openings wasn't even discovered until I think 95. So what's to say a tribe of small people couldn't hide in something like that and move in and out and never be seen. I mean, it's fantastic. There was a stupid movie about people that lived underground that ate people. Remember that? There's a bunch of chicks. Was that the cave? The descent. The descent. That's what it was. So my whole team watched, we spent like, when we were going, like leading up to this expedition, we're like, all right, let's watch a bunch of bad horror cave movies before we go. The first one's bad. The second one is so bad, it's funny. Yeah, right. They did a descent too. And you're like, wow. As you were bringing that up, I stumbled across a video, potentially, it's obviously probably not real, of an O-ring pen deck. No, it's totally real, Jamie. Well, I know, but I mean, have you ever seen this? These guys are on bikes. God, such a dick. And this thing runs out in front of them. It doesn't look like CGI is the only thing I'm going with at the moment. It's obviously probably not real. That's definitely a person. It had a tail or something. What? They were doing like freeze frames of it. What? I stopped watching because you guys took me on the cave thing, but... What? It's a 10 minute video. Neither of you have seen this before. I've never seen it before. Where are they? They're in Vietnam? I think so. Bro. They were just out riding their bikes and this thing, they caught it on their GoPros and they were trying to find it. Let's see. They could also be trying to troll everyone on the internet. I don't know. Do these guys have a troll video? I mean, what is their YouTube page? Have you gone to their YouTube page? It's like on a Bigfoot web, Sasquatch Chronicles. But that's the problem. Do you remember in Men in Black how they used to always check the... Whatever it was called, they checked the National Inquirer for tips on aliens? Where else do you go to get this info though? Let me see this again. Pop out right here. Here it goes. There. What the fuck is that? That's definitely a person or a humanoid. It's really tiny, whatever it is. Yeah. It's running pretty fast. It also could be like... Bullshit. Yeah. Could be bullshit. But it could be a little monkey person. Look, we know those little monkey people were real. Yeah, exactly. God damn. Imagine if that's real. And keep in mind, and again, I'm not like a huge cryptid guy, but keep in mind, as a homo sapien, they have a higher intellect, which means they're better at avoiding people, right? Right. It's not unreasonable to say if there was a group of small humanoids out there that didn't want to be discovered, they could stay hidden. Yeah, and if it's really small, and also some sort of hominid that has intelligence, it's probably got a pretty decent food source in the jungle. Yep. But they would find a dead one, wouldn't they? That's always the argument, right? Why isn't there a roadkill? Yes. Or why? Yeah. But the thing is, there is a lot of mountain lions. Good luck finding a dead one. Yeah. Yeah. Look at that. Look at that. Yeah, that's the best screenshot I've ever got. I don't think that's a tail. That looks like a spear. Yeah, spear, yeah. Yeah, and who knows what's to say that isn't a short guy who's been poaching. And he's like, crap, I'm getting busted. But doesn't mean it's not fascinating. And this is the kind of stuff that we wade through in droves to try and figure out, are these animals, are these creatures still out there? Look at that. That's so weird. God, I'm such a sucker, though. Oh, that thing looks like it's wearing shorts, dude. Doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. And it's running exactly like a person. Yeah, that's a little person. But it's so little. Right, it could be a little kid. That's the thing about the, it could be a little kid, yeah. But that's the thing about the orang pen deck, is that they think it was like the Homo floriensis. I think they think it's really the same thing. The Homo floriensis was really a three foot tall human. Three, four feet, yeah. Right. Some subset. Yep. Okay, so. That's another image. Oh, wow. Yeah, that looks like a little person, man. That head looks weird, though. It's got a hat. That dude looks like it's wearing a hat. We're in a Disney Land, they're pointing out the ears because it matches the orang pen deck images of that Sasquatch type head or something. Dude, that is a person with a stick. And there, that creature looks naked. It doesn't look like there's shorts on it. Yeah, it does. So how tall do you think that is? That looks really short. Man moving fast. I mean. Really short and like three feet tall. Going into tall grass, right? What's that? Three foot grass? Four foot grass? That's so weird. Okay, so here's size comparison. See I'm such a sucker. Look at, look out, look at, there's a size comparison. That is fucking tiny, man. That's tiny. It's really tiny. Oh my God, it's real. I want to believe so bad. I'm such a moron. I'm such a moron when it comes to this stuff. I believed in Bigfoot for so long. They estimated it was between 80 and 150 centimeters, which is somewhere between 30 and 60 inches tall. So that's three to five feet. Tiny little thing. Tiny little thing. It's amazing. I hope it's real. Yeah, I do too. I do too. Yeah, I mean it's fantastic. Would you rather not knowing and it lives or someone kills it and you find out that it's real? I'd rather not knowing and it lives. Me too. For sure. Me too, but I feel like a bitch. I want to know, but I don't want to die. Right, right. You know what, come on man, just tell me. And how blurry does the lion get in that situation because it's humanoid, right? Yes. So it's like, it's not like you're catching them and putting them in zoos to breed them and keep the population up. Like that gets really dicey.