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Bari Weiss is an American opinion writer and editor. In 2017, Weiss joined The New York Times as a staff editor in the opinion section. Her new book "How to Fight Anti-Semitism" is now available. https://amzn.to/2Gh7WIL
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Oh, presidential candidates though? Yes, pretty sure. Or you want to go jazz? Everything. Presidential candidates, I don't know. I love Yang's, what I was going to say about Yang before we got into cutting off baby dicks. Love his energy, like him as a person a lot. He's like, he's real. You know, he's like most politicians are aliens and he's not. And it's so refreshing. And I like him a lot. He also said that police officers should have a purple belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, which I completely agree. He has a lot, like I went to look at the policies on his page. Yes. Like, who is this? Super rational. He's great. And one of the things that is so like refreshing about him is that the, I don't know if I've been in a room in the past year with so many former Bernie and former Trump people, which are a lot of his supporters, you know, were like disaffected, disappointed Trump people, and then people that supported Bernie in 2016. And there's just, I don't know, like when you hear him talk, the villain of his stump speech is not Donald Trump, even though he hates Donald Trump. The villain is Amazon and Big Pharma and, you know, automation, like the things that are actually transforming and decimating the country. I just think it's refreshing. But he's like a Paul Revere for automation. He's like, hey, this is your fucking jobs are going away. Your jobs are going away. Yeah. He's a great guy. Liked him. I don't know. And then I also feel like I've gone on this emotional journey with Biden where at first I'm like, like, I liked him. Then I'm like, he's old. He's kind of losing it. No way he can win. And now I feel like I've gone back to maybe like, let me put you back on track because he's way too old. It's not just that he's too old. He's not coherent. He's falling apart. Like, hasn't he had a stroke or something? I don't know if he's had a stroke. He's had a lot of plastic surgery. That's for sure. Look at his face. He's like, grrr. Yeah. Trying to look younger. And the caps and I don't know. But he has like blood pressure issues, right? I think the candidate, I will be very surprised if the candidate is not Bernie, both because of the fundraising and because of where he is in the polls and because, and this is the most fundamental thing, the energy in the country right now is a populist energy. I just don't think that a moderate, like the ones that I like, like a Klobuchar or a Biden can capture the energy of the base. I think that energy is just really with Bernie. What do you think? You have more faith in the Democratic Party than I do. I think they're going to fuck up and put Elizabeth Warren in. Oh my God. Trump's going to chew her up. Don't you think Trump would, okay, but if it's Bernie versus Trump, who wins? Because I think Trump still wins. I think you're always going to have a hard time when someone's the incumbent, right? You're always going to have a hard time when someone is the sitting president who is extremely controversial, extremely polarizing, but also we're in a great time economically. That's hard for people to deviate from. It's hard for people to deviate from good economy. When you look at the stock market, when you look at... Yeah, but most people don't have stocks. No, it's true. Most people are like working through... It's a perception though. It's a perception. You look at unemployment. Unemployment rates are very low. There's a lot of things that you could point to, the standard issues that you point to. And then you deal with all this luminous on the left that Trump is the complete opposite of. He's the antithesis of... He's the middle finger to all of it. Yes, exactly. Yeah. When he got in office, I said political correctness just got hit with a missile to the dick. That's what it was like when that guy got in office. Like, what the fuck? After all that grab the pussy stuff and all the craziness that he... The fact that he was able to weather that storm and it didn't even seem to shake him. He would get on TV. I mean, like you said, he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue. Yes. Kind of think he actually could. Yeah, well, as long as the person was a dick. As long as the person who shot was a real asshole. Like, well, you know, do we really need that guy? No, we need Trump as president. It's gonna be hard. It's always hard to get someone out of office. I mean, what sunk George H.W. Bush was Ross Perot. And a lot of people forget that. Ross Perot, this eccentric billionaire, got on television and bought an entire half hour of regular primetime television and put on this display of why you're getting fucked and explain taxes to you and explain... So is Mike Bloomberg gonna be the Ross Perot of 2020? No, he's not as charismatic and he's not very well-liked and he doesn't make sense. I don't think he's wasting his time. I just think he's the opposite of what people want right now. They don't want a billionaire. No. No, they don't want that. If you're not... What Bernie stands for is a guy who... Well, look, you could dig up dirt on every single human being that's ever existed if you catch them in their worst moment and you magnify those moments and you cut out everything else and you only display those worst moments. That said, you can't find very many with Bernie. He's been insanely consistent his entire life. He's basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from. Yeah, and he's addressing the thing that people are most obsessed with right now, which is economic inequality and he's really consistent on it. Did you see him here? Did you see him... Yeah, of course I did. He was so normal. He's normal. He's so normal. Did you find him winning though? Did you like him? I liked him a lot. He's a huge division in people I know. Either they love him or they really, really think that he's rough, obnoxious, all of that. Well, I know you don't like Tulsi, but I love her. I know you do. I love her. I think she's awesome. I love her. I love Bernie and I love Andrew Yang. And I talked about Tulsi and Bernie the other day, but I forgot to bring up Andrew Yang. I apologize for that. I said everybody else can eat shit. I didn't mean Andrew Yang. I do like him. It was just a mistake. What is the Tulsi appeal for you? Well, I think she first of all is someone who's served twice overseas, been deployed twice and understands the actual cost of war, worked in medical units, saw people murdered and shot down and destroyed by war. And she wants none of it. She wants us to have less interventionist foreign policy decisions that affect people's lives and send our young brothers and sisters over there to get killed. That's one thing. She's a person who served in Congress. She understands how it works. She's a very nice, friendly person. I believe her. When I talked to her, she's very genuine. And if you want a woman president, that's what you want. You want a young woman who has served in Congress, who has served overseas, who's been deployed. She makes a lot of sense with a lot of the things she's saying. That's what I like about her. Got it. Okay. Klobuchar? I have a zero opinion on her. Okay. Yeah, I like her. Zero charisma, though. Yeah. I haven't been paying attention. Like, there's certain... Look, there's only so much time you have in a day and only so many days in your life. And until things start really popping where I have to pay attention to her, I'm just like, she ain't got a shot. Who are you going to vote for in the primary? I think I'll probably vote for Bernie. Interesting. Yeah. I think Bernie and Tulsi together would be a fucking devastating combination. I really do. I don't know if they'd ever work out together. I don't know if that's possible. But I think them together might work. That might work. That might get enough people to go, you know what? This is all just too fucking crazy. Let's try something different. And what do you make of the people that are speculating that Tulsi's going to run as a third party or all that? She's not going to. Okay. I don't think she's going to. I don't think she has any plans to do that. But that was the worry that she's a Russian asset. That was one of the things that Hillary Clinton had said. I found that very strange. Hillary Clinton was calling her a Russian asset. You found it strange that Hillary Clinton said that? I do. But I'm not a fan of Hillary Clinton. I'm not a fan of that whole – they're a part of a different world, right? They're a part of a different world where corruption was open and accepted and it was a part of the program. Yes. If you pay attention to the Clinton Foundation, if you pay attention to the amount of money that they would get paid to speak to bankers and the fact that they wouldn't release the transcripts, that was the great thing about Bernie during the 2016 election. Release the transcripts. Let's see those transcripts. You know, he was like – When I watch him, I'm like looking at Larry David. Yes. Like it's so strange. Like I only see Larry David. Larry David does a fucking amazing job at this. But it's like the meld. It's very weird. Yes. Like I was watching the weekly episode of when the Times endorsed the candidates or the two women and it was like – it was very strange. I was like thinking that I'm literally looking at Larry David. But him as a human being, when I was hanging out with him, I believe in him. I like him. I like him a lot. I know that – The most scandalous thing about him, the Daily Mail, just like was like Bernie Sanders. He requests his junior suites in his hotels to be 65 degrees and he asks his staff to collect honey packets. This is like for his tea. Cool. That's hilarious. That's all they got on him. Yeah. No, I mean the thing to get him on is like his apologetics for the Soviet Union, for Nicaragua. I mean, his foreign policy stuff. It's just a disaster and that is what Trump will crush him on. I mean, Trump wants Bernie to be the candidate. Do you think so? Yes. You don't think he wants Warren? I mean, Warren would be great too because then he has Pocahontas. Yeah. Yeah.