Joe on Francis Ngannou's Victory Over Ciryl Gane

Can we talk for a second about Francis and Ghana doing jujitsu? Isn't that wild? Whole... First off, I was scared of him before. Because if he hits you, you're going to die. Bro his leg was destroyed going into that fight. He had a totally torn MCL. His ACL is fucked. Are you serious? Oh he's in surgery. Cause he had... Knee sleeves. Somebody was asking me about... He needs surgery. Does the opponent have to agree to let him wear those? No. No. And in California, it's legal to have knee sleeves on. There are some jurisdictions where they'll let you tape your ankles. Some commissions... I'm going to cough again. Some commissions will let you tape your ankles. Some won't. It's like... There's all sorts of different rules when it comes to MMA, unfortunately. It's like the unified rules of MMA. There's the changed unified rules that like... They've changed some of the parameters of like what constitutes a downed opponent. And then some places will let you tape your ankles. Some places won't. It's like there's a lot going on. He did the smart move though. Both knees. Yeah. So you don't know. Yeah. You don't put tape on like just two fingers. You're like, I'm fine. No. Well do you remember Sakuraba? Sakuraba. Sakuraba's knees were so fucked that he would tape all the way up, halfway up his thigh. Where his knees were like mummified. How much flexion and extension did he have? Very little? When you would see Sakuraba when he fought, like especially later in his career, his knees were the craziest thing. See if you find a video of Sakuraba. Oh my lord. Look how taped up his knees are. I mean it's like halfway up his thigh and halfway down to his ankle. When Francis picked up that guy mid-kick and they both left the ground and he came down. Oh yeah. All I could think of in my head while watching that was imagining like in a cartoon, the ghost of my body just floating up. I mean what does he weigh? Well he weighed in at 257. Which how tall is he? He's six five I believe. That's Dudley tall. Yeah. Dudley tall. That's the two of them slamming down to the ground. Then that's again where my ghost would not yet. Look at the faces in the back. Look at that dude with his mouth open. Look at the girl too. The girl on the left right underneath his knee. Oh yeah. Every single face. Everybody's like holy shit. Yeah. Well that was his best option to win that fight giving the fact that he was injured. I had no idea that he was injured. Obviously he wasn't. It was significant. He wasn't talking about that before though was he? Well we knew about it. We had heard about it. There was a rumor going around we had heard about it. I had not talked to his coaches so I didn't know exactly the extent of the injury and I found out afterwards and I actually connected one of his coaches with Waze to Well which is the company that I use here in Austin for stem cells. But he had significant tears in his knee. To the point where they were really considering not fighting. Oh damn. Yeah. But he still fought and he still won. It was beautiful. A man that size. So he waited in a 257. What do you think he stepped in the ring at? Well DC thinks he's about 270 because he looked so much bigger than Cyril Gaughan. Because Cyril Gaughan was 247 which means Cyril Gaughan didn't have to lose any weight. He weighed in his walk around. But Francis often times is over the 265 pound limit. So when he goes to weigh in like he'll just not eat very much like the day before. Dip under it. Dip under it and then weigh himself in and then afterwards he'll rehydrate and carb up. So the day of the fight he looked massive. I mean he was huge. Yeah he looked huge. But he moved beautifully. Well especially for a guy with a fucked knee. Yeah I had no idea. I mean you also have to take into consideration what kind of an impact did that have on his training in terms of his cardio. Like his cardio output. Like what was he able to do. And you know how was that going to affect the way he fought and the pace that he was able to fight at. All I'll say is Francis and Gannu is one of the best arguments for carrying a gun on the face of the planet. Because if you run into that dude in an alleyway you're going to die. Yeah you're not going to hurt him. No. I mean Stipe landed some big shots on him and didn't even ding him. That's why tools exist. Sometimes you need to have tools. Yeah. What's interesting is that guy evolving his game and then incorporating wrestling and incorporating jiu-jitsu. And I'm really curious to see what he decides to do in the future. If he decides to box or if he decides to stay with the UFC. Because part of me wants to see him. I want to see him box. I mean I don't want to see him box because I don't love seeing him fighting MMA. I love seeing him fighting MMA. But I want to see him box because I want to see him get a giant chunk of money. Like Conor McGregor style Floyd Mayweather chunk of money. Because when Conor fought Floyd Mayweather he made a hundred million dollars. I don't believe that's bad for an evening's work. I think that's nice. I would love to see that. Like if he fought Tyson Fury how much money would they be able to get? I know nothing about that reason. Do you think they'd be able to demand that much? I don't know. Is it off the pay per view or what they could sell it as? Yeah. It's off the pay per view. It's off what they could sell. I mean obviously it would have to be very marketable. And Tyson Fury is very marketable. And Francis Ngano is very marketable. Especially him as a UFC heavyweight champion going up to fight in boxing. And it would be weird to see Tyson Fury like a legit five inches taller than Francis Ngano because that's what he would be. What? Oh yeah. Tyson Fury is 6'9". I think Francis is 6'4", 6'5". I'm not sure. How tall is Francis? Is he 6'4", 6'5"? But the big fight in MMA is Jon Jones. Does he fight at that same weight? Jon Jones is fighting heavyweight now. Is there a weight class above the 265? There is but the UFC has never implemented it. It's just not super heavyweight. It's just not boys out there big enough to... I mean I guess there's probably a few but there's not enough where they felt the need to have a over 265 pound weight class. It is kind of weird though that there's a weight limit on heavyweight. Huh. Because you would think heavyweight would just be the biggest person you had. That's what I figured. If you were to get a weight at that level it would kind of come as you are. I mean it could be one day. One day there could be a guy who is so compelling. Maybe there's some gigantic wreck over home wrestler like Corellon. Like Corellon in his prime I think was like 290 pounds. Something bigger than that. If you did have a guy that big that was marketable I could see the UFC implementing a super heavyweight division but it's available. I mean it's something that the commissions have sanctioned.