Jeffrey Epstein, JFK, and 9/11 - Joe Rogan & Tim Dillon

My friend Jessa Reed who is a very funny comic, her mother was saying, you know, she has daughters, she goes, you know, you let the kids on the phones too much, she goes, mom, in 10 years they're gonna be the phone. She was like, the phone's gonna be inside of them soon. So it's like, what am I fighting? You know, what am I fighting with? I limit my kids time on the phones, except the older one of course. Do you... He's going up to her, you're like... I just don't think that it's a challenge that we... Do you control the content? Yes. I just don't think it's a challenge that we ever face. Are they allowed to watch In For Wars? All day, that's all we have. Thank God. We project it. What else is the keys? Screen time, screen time's a big key. Yeah. Tell about Epstein. Epstein didn't kill himself, that's big. Huge. You gotta tell them that before they start Googling and making for themselves. They gotta know. They gotta know. It fucks up your sleep when you're under... I fall asleep to a podcast. You're gonna laugh. I used to fall asleep to Alex. I would listen to Alex's clips on YouTube, and I would fall asleep to just, The ladies are like, you know, and I would be able to put me to sleep. You know what I think his best video is to this day? He's one of the greatest entertainers of our time. You gotta watch him. When I first met him, he wasn't the Alex Jones that people see today. And I think the Alex Jones that he is today is changing because of his not drinking. Oh yeah, interesting. Yeah, because he's clean for 90 days. Interesting. But he's different. But what I'm thinking is when I first saw 9-11 Road to Tyranny, it was one of the first videos that I ever watched, I was like, whoa. Like it's one of the first videos that ever opened my eyes up to certain conspiracies. And one of them was the conspiracies of using agent provocateurs to incite violence in riots, to incite that feeling of chaos. And then they used that as an excuse for the police to come in and start arresting people. Because now it's no longer peaceful protest. And they do it all the time. So he was making this argument about the World Trade Organization. Yeah, WTI. Yeah, and so he showed all his videos of these guys coming in with government-issue work boots on. They kind of like fucking the same souls as like government-issue work boots. They're wearing ski masks, breaking buildings, lighting shit on fire, smashing everything. And then the cops come in and clean everybody up. And then they actually made it a no protest zone. Interesting. So a guy went through, or a woman, I forget which, but had a pin with a WTO on it with a red line on it. They told him you had to take that pin off. Yeah, America. Yeah, well, it's just every protest resistance movement has been infiltrated. The FBI did it, Cointel Pro. They did it with the Black Panthers. They've just done it with everybody. We placed that video and you see that and it's like real clear. Then you hear how it all played out, that all the agent provocateurs wound up going to a safe house and then the police released them. That's crazy. They negotiated with the police, then police released them. You're like, wait a minute, what? Yeah. There's not even a rest made. It's probably somebody's job in the FBI to dye their hair pink and like go into Portland and start throwing rocks at Ben Shapiro or something. Back then they were just allowed to wear ski masks and shit. Right. They would just start smashing shit. And you couldn't even know who they were. And you just assumed that that was good. I mean, it's such a crazy way to stop a protest and I never thought about it until I watched it. But a smart way too, when you think about it. That's fucking real smart. You know, these guys know what they're doing. But they've been doing that kind of shit forever. That's like standard operational procedure. 100% fucking... This is a weird time for conspiracies. It's weird. They've gone mainstream, which is not good. Very dangerous. It's very dangerous. Trump's into a lot of them. He's into a lot of them. I think there's not a huge... There's only a small group of people that want a rational discussion about them. People really just want to be emotionally fed. Does this feel right to me? And there's a very... Like I had a guy call me today. He's a very smart guy. He wrote The Franklin Scandal, which is a book about the original Epstein thing, like the original sex trafficking thing. What's that? Well, The Franklin Scandal was a... It was a scandal out of Omaha, Nebraska, the Franklin Credit Union, where there was a guy who was embezzling money and then he was being investigated for that. They said he has all this money because he's running an interstate pedophile network and he's pandering kids to people in Washington, D.C., in New York. And there was a headline in the Washington Post, the Washington Times, that were like, coal boys get a tour of the Reagan White House. And this was a scandal with real victims who wanted to testify and then people started dying. The private investigator they hired, his plane broke up. One of the girls that testified was found guilty of perjury and then she was put in solitary confinement. They had to use two grand juries in Omaha to get rid of this scandal. And it's one of... Now, it's not as sexy as like a pizza gate or something because it happened in the 80s and 90s, but this shows you the blueprint for the government using marshalling resources to silence people that were victims of this stuff. This is not new. Congressman senators, blackmail being used by intelligence agencies, none of it's new. It was pioneered by the mafia. And say, Whitney Webb, who lives in Chile and I've had her on my show, she writes a lot about this stuff. If you want people to talk, you need info, you need leverage. There's no more leverage than you having sex with somebody who's underage, then they own you forever. If they have photo, audio, video of you doing that. So these things have been going on for a while. Franklin Scandal was one of the first. But the guy who wrote it, this guy, Nick Bryant, called me today and he goes, I can't get any agents. It's really hard because like, you know, the reality is mainstream media is uninterested in a lot of these stories unless they're current and they're sexy and online fringe people are only interested if they're insane. Well, there's so many of them now though too. So many, it's hard to keep track. You were just saying that you were just in Dallas. Did you do the drive? Did you do the- I didn't do the drive, but I went to the next where he was shot. There was five Canadians there and they were like, I was just trying to giving them an impromptu tour of Dallas because they were like, is this where Kennedy got wet? And I'm like, yeah, this is how it happened. How many people do you think have stood there and went like this? Right. Yeah, I wanted to do it. Yeah, there it is. There it is. I wanted to do it with a Popeye's chicken sandwich and just write, you know, this is America. It says this is where Princess Diana was killed. Yeah, we're just having fun. Is that really where Kennedy was killed though? That's exactly where he was shot. That's exactly where. And how cryptic is that? Look how angry you look. You're a crazy person. Well, I'm just trying to have a little fun. I understand. It's a weird thing to joke around. I know. But then you go to the school book depository and it is super close. It could have happened. Oh, for sure. 100%. Listen, everybody who says there's no way he could have made those shots is out of their fucking mind. Right. It's not that far. That is not the thing that makes me think it's a conspiracy. It's literally everything else. It's every other component of the story. It's Oswald being shot immediately. Yes. I mean, that's... Oswald surely could have been in on it. Of course. Yes. Of course. He could have definitely been in on it or he could have definitely been set up. Both of those things are possible. And Dallas has an interesting energy because of that. Yeah. It's a great city, but it does feel like it feels like a city of people that keep their mouths shut. A lot of big corporate steakhouses, high end hotels. Yeah. A lot of people carving up deals. It just feels like something's going on. Yeah. There it is. There it is. So that's where he is and that's the building up there. See, that's not that far. It can happen. I think they said it's just like 150 yards or something like that. It's not when you're actually there, it looks even closer than this. Yeah. How many yards was it, Jamie? Find out how many yards Oswald had to shoot to hit Kennedy. But it's totally doable. And people that say that it's not, you're crazy. They're nuts. They say that you can't load a gun that fast. Maybe you can't. I bet you someone can do it faster than you. I've seen guys use bolt action rifles fast as fuck. Could they get off three shots in that amount of time? I don't know, but I don't think it's magic. I don't think it's something impossible. The other thing they said was that the scope was off. Anybody said that doesn't know shit about scopes. All you have to do is hand a little bit, drop it, bang it against things. The scope goes off. To me, it was the idea that that guy was killed immediately. And then obviously I've read a couple of books on it, but the idea that he gets killed immediately, that's where you go. Something's wrong. Something's just completely. 183 meters is what I just found. 183 meters. What is that in yards? It's about 200 yards. Is it? It's what this is. I don't know if this is the actual accurate measurement was, but that's what I just found. That's interesting. I didn't know it was that much of a disparity. It says it was never more than 90 yards from Oswald's supposed location. So there's a lot, I mean. Oh, okay. Where he went when he got the final shot was that far? It was 200 yards? No, that doesn't make any sense. He was never more than 90 yards from Oswald's location. How's that work? Two separate. Great. I didn't know that 183 meters was 200 yards. That's crazy. Yeah, a meter's pretty close to a yard. Yeah, it's pretty smart. Right, but that's why I thought it would be like 185 or something like that. There's actually a formula for doing that, for converting meters to yards. You add one of the last numbers or some shit. I forget how it works. It's an interesting thing because it really is, Christopher Hitchens said that the Kennedy assassination was the moment that that moment was the psychic movement of the 60s started. That was the fracturing of reality for a lot of people in the same way that maybe Epstein was where it just kind of... No, the president's got to be way bigger. It's huge. It was huge. It was a traumatic event that people dealt with in a bunch of different ways. No one's sitting around going, do you remember where you were? Yeah, when Epstein died. Well, you don't have the friends I do. There's a lot of people on Reddit saying that. But it's like 9-11. Of course. Almost. Yeah. Yeah. Similar. Yeah. Unless you knew somebody in 9-11, it's probably bigger than that one. Do you think it's possible that down the road, not that the government did it, but we find out that there was a substantial coverup. We didn't know about Saudi Arabia, their involvement for a while. Oh, for 9-11? Yeah. Do you think it's possible that we just... You don't know the whole story. It's totally possible. I don't have any idea what was being done or who was involved. I know that there was a bunch of hijackers and they flew planes into those buildings, but who was behind that? Who the fuck knows? How would we know? Great question. What part of Saudi Arabia where they all came from? Where did they get their orders from? How did they organize this? I think they know a certain amount and I think a certain amount they'll probably never know. Yeah. And we'll all go to our death not knowing. What do you think about that one that got shot down? They've shot that Let's Roll one. Yeah. They shot that down. Yeah. You know? Yeah. They said that thing, the flight, the wreckage was scattered for miles. Yeah. I mean, there's no way they didn't shot that. There's a lot of things about that day where you look back at it and you go, this is just weird. Yeah. I mean, it's weird that a building fell that wasn't hit by anything. It's just weird. Well. I'm not saying it can't happen, but that's odd. It's definitely odd. That's odd. The way it looks is odd. It looks like a controlled demolition. Yeah. But if you watch the full version, there's a guy who used to be like a full on 911 truther and then he started like paying attention. Then the CIA started paying him. Yeah. And he started just paying attention to the flaws in his way of thinking. Sure. And one of the things that he found out was that the version of Tower Seven that most people see is a version that's very quick. It implodes and it just falls down. But for minutes before that, you can watch the center of the thing collapse inside of it. Oh, interesting. Okay. Have you ever seen that version? I've never seen that version. Pull up the full version. Can we see that one? Yeah, it's very interesting. Full version of Tower Seven collapsing. Yeah. I want to see. See if you can find one that includes the center. Well, because the 911 people get so crazy. They're like, there were no buildings. It's all holograms. There were no planes. There were no planes. There were no planes. There were missiles. I mean, it's nuts. Yeah. But I want to see the uncut Building Seven. The plane hit the Pentagon. It's, I mean, well, okay. But just release. I just want to see one video of it happening. Right. Just show me one video. Do you think they have a video? There's some weird on the Pentagon. Just show me one video of it. I think it probably over plane hitting the Pentagon. There's one, but it's very weird. The frames are very weird. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. Just show me the video. I want to believe in why hit the Pentagon. The Rover on the fucking moon is taking beautiful video. This is what I'm saying. This is the problem. You know, fucking you. Can you imagine if you have some shit that's like a thousand times worse than a like one of them doorbell cameras? Yeah. They got a thousand times worth of viewing the goddamn Pentagon. They're putting it together from cell phone cameras. I get, I understand that it was technology was different. Just show me a video of a plane hitting the Pentagon. I'm good. I'm with you. What do you think it could be? A missile? I don't know, but I just want to know why we just know one video. We got to see a video. Isn't that crazy? Why am I crazy for saying, can I just see one video of the thing happening that you said happened? Well, did you know that maybe this is not true and Jamie's going to be checking this one out soon. The area in the Pentagon that got hit was refortified was the same area where they were doing the accounting. Yeah. Where they were trying to figure out where the trillion dollars is missing that Rumsfield was talking about on camera. Just that I think the day before, right? Yeah. It was an interesting situation. Did he say that there's missing money? Yeah, and wasn't Rumsfield out on the lawn? These people are, what are they doing? They're just doing press. You're not in a bunker. You're out on the lawn. I don't know what happened. Listen, it was something crazy, trillions of dollars. 2.3. It's a 2.3 trillion. Oh my God. I mean, you know. And so the next day, see if that's true that that area of the Pentagon that held the accounting. I don't think they tell you what. See if you can Google the area of the Pentagon that was hit contain the accounting offices. Jamie, I believe the dark web will have it. The dark web will have it, Jamie. I feel like I read that though. I know, I understand your suspicion, but I'm just like you. I'm trying to lie. I heard that Building 7 had a lot of financial records in. That's what I heard. That's what I heard. And Ron, I don't know. All the satellite dishes that were pointed at Epstein. Listen, here's the thing about the way I look at conspiracy. I don't want to believe in any of them. That's the whole thing. I want there to be a plan hit the pen. I want, I want it all to be what it is. I know that we know that a bunch of elites were going to an island to have sex with underage girls. Yeah, there's of course they could do whatever. They don't care. Also know like, hey, how much of this is true? Like this, this is a wacky one. This is one that if you told your mom, like 10 years ago, she'd be like, Timmy, you're back on the drugs. Yeah, yeah, she would. She'd be like, the fuck is wrong with you? No one's going to an island to fuck kids. But it's the same thing. It's like now that that's on the table, you look at other events and you're like, well, we don't know necessarily how all of these things happen. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We just have to go. There's a listen, there's conservative firefight, like fire companies from Queens, right? From out by Long Island that like, because they've gotten sick and stuff have demanded like a new investigation. And these are not like crazy people. These are people that just go, listen, we're all dying from first responders. And things we just, you know, we want to know exactly what the hell we breathed in and what the hell's going on. Well, it's all the burning chemicals from the basement of the building, right? Wasn't that the fire's burned forever? I guess that's what it is. Those guys got so many of them got sick. So many of them got cancer. Yeah, it's horrible. It's horrific. It's really fucked up. Donna Summers died from that. Donna Summer, the disco person? Yeah. Well, I don't really care about that. Stop. I'm kidding. Don't. I like her. She was amazing. She's great. I mean, people at 9-11. No, no, no. She had an apartment that was near the site of the building. Donna Summer's running into the building. Dude, I think you live down there, man. If you have an apartment down there and you can't move, you're breathing that air, man. Interesting. She's not a lung cancer, I think. I thought she was a smoker. I don't think she was. I thought she would just smoke cigarettes and, you know, do coke and live a fun disco life. How dare you. I think she found the Lord. I had no idea she was a first responder. After she, you know, she gave up on all that hot love. She was going through the wreckage. Yeah. No, she was not going through the wreckage. She was just living there. She was just living in her apartment. Okay. I think that's the idea. Of course. There are people that are probably very sick. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah. And they were lied to about the risks. Well, I don't think anybody knew. That's true. Nobody had ever had to endure an inferno in the basement of a gigantic building in the metropolitan city that lasted for weeks. It's crazy. Right after planes crash, all the dust is in the air, all the fucking pollutants and particulates and everybody's breathing all that shit in. I mean, you got to go back to work eventually, right? Yeah. So when do you go back to work a week later, two weeks later, guess what? The air is still fucked up. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry to hear about Donna Summer. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's correct. Yeah. But I'm wrong a lot. Can we see if it, can you pull up a video of Donna Summer breathing in the fumes at ground zero? No. She's great. I saw it at Jones Beach. It was really good. Did you? You saw it at Jones Beach live. She was great. She was, she was older. She had, you know, she was, it was her comeback. It was like the 2000 and. Donna Summer blamed 9-11 for lung cancer. It was like 2000. She was coming back. She released an act like a greatest hits album. You and your ad blocker, you son of a bitch. Those ad blockers. Yeah. My producer, Ben has them too and he's always got it. Donna Summer 9-11 gave me cancer. Well that's not a fun song, is it? No. That's not a fun song. Donna Summer was convinced that inhaling toxic air after 9-11 gave her the lung cancer that eventually killed her. TMZ has learned. Close to the singer tells TMZ, who we're hearing this morning that Donna was in a New York, in New York City during 9-11 living at an apartment near Ground Zero. Donna became almost paranoid about breathing the air, which was heavy with a rancid odor. Gotta move. Gotta move. Gotta move. In the months and years following 9-11, Donna's feelings intensified. One source tells us that when he was around Donna, she would constantly spray some sort of disinfectant in the air. Danny Terrio, the host of Dance Fever, tells us when he was around Donna post 9-11, she would hang six sheets in her dressing room to prevent dust from coming in. Well, she sounds like she did dive it. And she also sounds like she was being annoying in the end. She sounds like she's being a little annoying. What were their sheets? It's a little annoying, Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna. Donna.