#2132 - Andrew Schulz

I think that the CIA guy you had on with the hair. Yeah, what did you think of that guy? So after the pod Guess we're up. Let's go. You wanna go? We're rolling. Let's do it. Okay. So he came on and he was very like, first of all, he's very charming. But like when you're talking to anybody who's worked for the CIA, you're looking through the same lenses you look at like a therapist. Right. Where it's like, are you analyzing? Like what's going on? What's going on here? Very charming, very smart, very, seems to really know what's going on in the world. But straight up told us, he's like, yeah, I guess one of the advantages I have is I'm pretty close to sociopath, I'm not there. But I don't feel the same emotions that everybody feels. There's a lack of guilt, but I know when I should feel it in these moments. But that's a huge advantage. Imagine if you're trying to find assets in flip assets. If you and I build a relationship with somebody and we feel empathy for them, maybe we wouldn't be able to say, hey, now it's time for you to cough up the information or else. But somebody else in that position might. So I would imagine if you are the fucking CIA, you're like, okay, we're looking for people who have gone through these things in their life that have curated this kind of like personality type. Well, isn't it just like part of the gig? Like here's for instance, like you're a bit about puffy. How are you going to connect these two fucking dots? You're, that bit is like, look, you don't have any real personal beef with ditty, but it's gotta go down. The bits are there, I'm a gold miner, I just found some gold. You're right, maybe I'm a sociopath. It's not that you're a sociopath, [2:00] it's just that that's part of the gig. Yes. Like you're not a sociopath with your friends. No, I think I'm maybe an empath. Yes. But I guess it's one of those things where like you justify you go, okay, if there's, I think this person might have done something bad. Yes. And he can get jokes and we're all gonna tell jokes. Yeah. I'm not pressing fucking charges. Well, not. Exactly. You're just like it's there. I mean, it's just there. It's every Am I fucking news feed is dominated by Fox news CNN everyone. There's raids at Diddy's house. Who is the guy that was running around with the sports Bra on? Did you see that one dude? No, this is in LA. Oh my God, I gotta send you this. All the way to her happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got caught up in the raid and there was yelling, I'm a celebrity, I'm a celebrity. It was like one of the most hilarious clips. Hold on, I'm gonna find you this. It's so funny. [3:08] Do you know what I'm talking about Jamie, but you bring up a good point which is like Are there ever situations where you feel you won't? Wait, see this Forwards fraud. Hold on a little bit of play it. Okay. Yeah, but your headphones also get here. That's the Santana. Oh, yeah. Look at this. Wearing what appears to be a black sports bra, red tights and the performers signature trim beard and long eyelashes. Yeah, this is Joe. this is Sassy Santana. Look at him, look at him. Oh, wow. So my one of the beard is crazy. So live on the beard. And that feeling came from a ditty party. Yeah. Well, he was at Diddy's house. I bet he was. So I guess Diddy just kept people at his houses because he's got multiple houses and he just had freak out part. Look at him. Look at the saucy. [4:05] That's the go saucy. Yeah, no saucy is crazy. Have you seen saucy twerk? I didn't even know saucy existed until I saw that video. Oh, saucy can throw it down. This is booty by saucy tantamum. Saucy. Oh, yeah. Jesus. I love it. Give me some of this. We're finding out that song's being played today. I like my voice. That's so cool! And so this is what a ditty's artist? I know let me. I'm gonna tell you right now. Oh, I've got a... So this is what a Ditty's artist? I don't even know his Ditty's artist, but... So I see he's like a popular figure in music. There's a day that is house. Nah, Ditty's in a tricky situation. He's in a tricky situation. [5:00] Yeah, I think it's over. You think it's over? I think it's over for him as like a figure in entertainment. Right. But he thinks it's over as him as far as I know. He gets a cell right next to our Kelly. I don't think so. I don't think he gets a lot of. He skates. I think he skates or he goes to the volley. Oh, yeah. That's a move, huh? I mean, Russell's out there. Yeah. You know? Is he been formally charged or is he just know that the shit is out there? I think there's just so much shit out there. But I think those rappers did some... Oh, he'll shit. It's, yeah, I mean, it was pushing in the 90s. Music business. It's a lot of people. It's not just the music business. It's like, it's yeah, I mean the rap game was crazy. That's a lot of thing a lot of people don't realize is like Back in the day, especially like early rap game You weren't just going to play at you know, what's the random theater that you would play in LA? What's like a big theater? I'm trying to think the or fiam or something like that will turn the will turn Some guys who explained to me it was like you would play at the local hood club There was like a hood club that you could perform at. [6:06] And then that was owned by the local drug dealer that was washing money there. Right. So this is where the idea of like checking in comes from. Have you heard of this term? Yes. Like checking in was basically like, hey, I want to make sure we're good because you're going to pay me. And if I don't check in, you might rob me because you're putting me up at the hotel and you know everything that's going on and you're a drug dealer. So you don't play by the rules. Right, when you come to Houston, you're checking in with certain people. Mr. Prince. Yes, sir. Mr. Prince. Yeah. You don't got to check in, Joe. You got to check in and say hi. Joe don't got to check You've had him on here, right? Yeah, yeah. He's a legend in the game. He's a legend. Had a respect, I say hi. There you go. Yeah. There you go. So what is like, yeah, yeah, yeah. How does a guy like him, like I'm trying to think, like, how do you, how do you navigate that to the point where people have this like respect and fear because of what they assume you've done in the street world. Right. But you're also operating legitimately. [7:07] Yeah. And nobody can get you. They try. They try. Well, they try with him many times. And do you think they just give up? I don't think they have anything. They had something they would have brought it. You know, if they have something on a guy like that, they try to get him. That's the thing that he's clever. Oh. He's playing many levels. He's like one of those dudes. You ever see a chess tournament where a guy walks in and there's 10 different players and he just walks and goes to each move and goes to the next board and makes a move, goes to the next board, makes a move, and he beats everybody. Yeah. So where does a guy like that learn that? That's what I'm trying to understand. That's streets. It's streets. Yeah. He learns that, you know, I mean, it's all about keeping people close. Yeah. Respect. Yeah. Give him respect, getting respect. Yeah. Making sure that, you know, you cover all your statements. Yeah. Like if you say the time. And there's probably times in his life where he's went like if it's poker, he probably went all in a few times not in terms of money but like this [8:09] decision makes or breaks me. Yeah. I wonder how many make or break moments he's had. Well it depends on what's actually true what's not true in terms of accusations. You know, if some of the accusations are true, that kind of covers things. You know, when folks vanish. When someone does have a kid have a, see a later Spanish. Yeah, yeah, that's effective. That feels effective, man. Oh, 100%. Yeah, and it should be. Because listen, all this shit that's going on right now in the world, in America, we get so soft soft and we think none of that shit's gonna happen here all that murder war drones Assassinations that's not gonna happen here Unless you know the Clint's yes, let's you know some shit. Yeah, let's you know some shit about old Bill [9:02] And then you want to shoot yourself in the chest while hanging from an extension cord. Wait, did that happen? Oh yeah, you don't know that guy? Shot him himself in the guy. Joe, that seems really hard to do with a shotgun. Yeah, how do you do such a thing? While you're hanging. This is a guy that brought Epstein to the White House at least seven times. What's his name? Uh, we'll find out. So they found him at a ranch 30 minutes from his house, hanging by an electrical cord from a tree with a shotgun wound to the chest. Shotgun discovered near the body, a former Clinton-aid Mark Middleton, and then they called it a suicide. Wow. 12-gauge shotgun was 30 feet from the body of Mark Middleton. Was he found dead? Okay, so who, who, okay, who orchestrates this? Is this, is this the same thing where does, does Clinton go, Hey, this guy needs to go or do the powers that be around a powerful person go, we already know [10:02] what needs to happen? Well, i think they know if a dude uh... is in contact with someone or has been talking or is about to talk me in cooperating with the ss i i don't think any of those guys have clean phones i don't think any of those guys don't have their houses bugged i don't think any of those guys aren't tracked if you have excited that guy is back here who the... If you're a guy that brought Jeffrey Epstein to the fucking White House to see Bill Clinton seven times and all this Epstein shit is going down and Galanes and Jail and you have information. There's people on both sides, right? There's the people on the right that are trying to nail the people that are on the left with this. There's people that are journalists that are trying to nail the people that are on the left with this. There's people that are journalists that are trying to nail the people that are involved in this. And they've managed to keep that fucking list from coming out, which shows you how powerful certain people are. That should show you a lot. That should be terrifying. The fact that Galein Maxwell is in prison. She's in prison for sex trapping, and yet no one's been accused of buying any of that [11:04] pussy. No one's been accused of having sex with these underage girls that she isn't jail for supplying. Yeah, that is crazy. That's crazy. If you own a store and there's no items left, yet nobody's purchasing something's going on. Something's going on. Yeah. So I guess when I'm trying to figure out is like, people can go away. I mean, that's what people were saying. And maybe everybody's a conspiracy theorist now, but that's what people were saying about the Diddy situation. When the feds rolled up with the fucking hummers and shit, they were like, it wasn't about Diddy. It was about if there were tapes of powerful people there. Yeah, I'm sure. They were the ones that called, they're like, I need to protect myself. So go in there with all the things and rip any tapes or any evidence. The Prince Harry was hanging with Ditty. I mean, everybody hung with Ditty. That's the other trick you can do. Like, Ditty hung out with everybody. And I've spoken a bunch of people house. Yeah, it's like the [12:08] Grimm ones start eating after midnight Everybody tells the stories like I saw go upstairs and these dudes are fucking like right on the couch Yeah, and then I go in this room and these guys are fucking and it Yeah, and pros, apparently he was getting male jiggalos to fuck girls. Fuck girls. Yeah, that's the, that was one of the rumors, like the real gals, so he would hire the professional dicks to have sex with the girls. And I think he would watch allegedly, that's what was alleged, I think. Yeah, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on. And that's the other thing. I wonder, like, is that just a power thing? It's a colligula thing. What does that mean? Colligula, like the Emperor, did you ever see that movie? Colligula? No. It's about just Roman Empire as being completely out of control. Colligula is like almost like porn and it was a movie made, I want to say in the 70s. It's a crazy movie, but it's just detailing extreme excess [13:08] where you could never fill the hole. But what is the hole you need to fill? Like I'm trying to find like, what's the catalyst? What year was this? 79. 79, yeah. That's Malcolm McDowell, right? The, it looks like it. Yeah, yeah, the dude from Clockwork Orange. Oh yeah, yeah. It's a crazy movie, man. But it's still mild in comparison to what absolute power corrupts. Collegiate. So then there's the question. It's like, can you take a completely normal person, give them power, and then they become that? Or does it take a power hungry person that has this void that they need to be filled, that needs to be filled, and then when they are given that power, you see the worst version of them. Ask your CIA boy, I bet he's got the answers. Somebody knows the exact formula. To corrupting somebody or to... What happens? Like what happens to these people? Have you ever met somebody in our business that like before they were popping, [14:02] they were kind of a dick and then once they became very successful, they were the biggest dick. And you're like, you were always gonna be this way. You just didn't have the power to... I don't know too many people in our business that are really successful, like your level or my level that are dicks. Yeah, well let me think about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there are people let me think about that. Yeah Yeah Yeah, there are people maybe that feel they should be at a higher level or not They feel that they can kind of boss people around or throw their way around to their assistant or their agents Yeah, maybe they yell when they shouldn't yell or don't have to yell or are demeaning to certain people That bothers me though. Oh, I hate it. Yeah. I don't like it at all. Especially when you're demeaning to the people that can't really do anything. They could quit, of course, but like this is their opportunity. Right. And then they feel terrible. And for no reason, the same exact situation could be handled with a hug. Yeah. Yeah. You could tell them, you appreciate them, you hold their hands, shake their hand, give them a hug, and then everybody feels good. Yeah. Yeah, that should be what the goal is. [15:06] Like you're the guy who is in this very unique unusual situation and you have the ability to make everybody feel better. Yeah. Yeah. Until you don't. Until there's some people that you just gotta get rid of. There's some people that are just feeling titled and they don't feel it. There's certain things that do happen around certain successful people. You'll see they have a few people that have resentment that are around them that realize like, oh, I'm a support person and I only have so much room that I can climb. I can never be Andrew Schultz. I'm always going to be this guy who works with Andrew Schultz or, like I've had a few buddies that have opening acts that wind up getting very entitled and they have real problems with them with the opening acts get resentful and there becomes issues and then we've good guys they clip them they get rid of them you have to yeah you gotta get it because you can't be around someone who resents your success I just had a friend who just led me through all [16:00] the shit that his opening act was doing and but I have no several guys that have had that. And once things start popping, those guys feel like, hey, you know, I'm a big deal. You know, like you don't even, you're just like, you could be replaced with another guy who does 15 minutes. Like this is crazy. You have an amazing opportunity. You get a chance to perform in front of these thousands of people that you would never be able to perform for them and you light it up, you can move up the ladder and then one day that could be you and they could be coming to see you and we've all seen that. And you never want to have to manage somebody like that. You want to have people around you that are excited by the opportunity and everybody's like part of the team and we're doing this fucking unbelievable thing. And yeah, I guess I feel lucky I have those guys. Yeah, you've cultured a good group of humans, and then they have gratitude, and we all have gratitude. Everybody has gratitude. Yeah, that's the key. But some people, they're nuts. Some people are just crazy, which is why they're in show business in the first place. And they have a distorted perception of reality, and they're not good at being objective, they're not good at seeing the big picture. [17:01] You know, those fucking people can be a real problem if they're in your circle. And if they're smart, the problem is like, when you take one of those people who's intelligent, they can like rationalize and justify all the behaviors. That's the trickiest thing. Like how do you, have you been in that situation when like you're trying to talk them out of a behavior that they have? And you're just like, this might not be the most rational way to operate. It's not really, it's like at a certain point of time, you have to, yeah, I guess you got to kind of let them. Yeah, I don't know what you can do to cure them of it. I don't know if you can like tell them, hey, this is what you're doing like fuck, what am I doing? I'm sorry, I'm gonna get my shit together. Do we have confirmation? Yes. And we're good to go or what? Yeah, hold on, hold on. Okay, okay. Lighted up, kill. Hahaha. Yeah. Mm. [18:00] He's, we're going back and forth right now. Is he? Yeah, I think there's just come for you're not comfy. Yeah green light. Oh really, okay All right, I think there's a lot of Psychos yeah, there's a lot of psychos in the world Yeah, and I think that this is a thing. It's like there's a certain amount of people that really don't care about other people So they they exist with I mean what is the terms, I guess the term of sociopath, right? Well, I think sociopath just means like you don't feel like the guilt that a normal person would feel when you make somebody feel uncomfortable. Right. You could potentially be in that uncomfortable situation. That reaction is just not elicited in you. And therefore you can maybe ask them to do things that would put them in a really uncomfortable situation. And I'm like, for example, you have a podcast, right? You ask somebody, come on. There might be a really embarrassing, tough question that you might wanna ask them. Maybe that's why you brought them on. Or they're a really close friend of yours. And you're just like, I don't know if I wanna put them in this situation in front of all these time. You don't ask. I don't ask all the time. Exactly, because you have empathy, you care about how to do that. [19:05] I don't need to talk to someone about something controversial. If they wanna talk about it, like if it's something they wanna get off their chest or they wanna discuss because there's some misconceptions out there, I'm happy to give you that platform, but like, play got you with you? It's, I am not that guy at all. I don't want to have anything to do with that shit. I don't like it. I don't think it's necessary. It feels gross. Also, if you're talking about a human being in one very specific issue, don't they have a lot of things going on in their life? I'm interested in the full human. I'm not interested in just digging the dirt on one bad situation that you may or may not be involved in. You said some shit to me. When I had my kid, you said, you know, it's really funny is that like, when I'm talking to somebody or somebody's being incredibly annoying or they're frustrating, they're being a pain in the ass, they're being a dick, I just imagine them as a six week old baby. Yeah. And it's like every one of them started out that way. [20:02] This innocent pure, amazing little thing. And life might have turned them into this. Life shitty parents, bad neighborhood. And then sometimes it's just genes. Yeah. Sometimes you get wacky genes, man. Yeah. Sometimes people are mentally ill right from the jump. Yeah. And I don't think people like to admit that, but that's a fact. Yeah. Yeah. You know? How much can you do with that? Not much. And then when it comes to medication, what is the medication doing it? Is it doling the mind so that the impulses don't come out? Is it ramping up your dopamine so you don't want to do those things? Yeah, I was wondering that with like Prozac. Like I didn't realize how many people I knew that were on Prozac. What's he saying? Yeah, you're na. Yeah, we're good. Let's just do it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. [21:00] Speaking of, speaking of psycho, speaking of people that are potentially bad. Yeah They do not have your good good interest at heart And we'll take advantage of you And maybe our pathological in there desires to crush. So we're talking about Andrew Huberman's situation his situation not Huberman Yeah, yeah So one of the things that was left out of that article, people know I assume everybody here knows exactly what happened. So, there's an article that Andrew Huberman, an ex, got a hold of a reporter and said that he's a flander, he's doing all these terrible things, he's a bad guy. Yeah. And so, they write this long article. What they left out was that the person who accused him of all this, first of all, is being investigated by the DOJ for fraud and is in the middle of that right now. It's a very serious case. I would name the case, but that would, like they made the lady anonymous, which is also crazy. Like you could have an anonymous person who attacks this famous [22:03] person, which is essentially, whether it's true, what the thing she's saying are true or not true, the stuff she left out, the DOJ stuff. That's when he breaks it off. Exactly. He breaks it off. The DOJ contacts him because they're investigating this woman. And you think that that would be like, maybe the first paragraph for the art. You would think that would at least be a part of the article. Yeah. If it was a real piece of news. Yeah. You would say, oh, this is complicated. Yeah. Okay. So what do you think it is? Do you think it could come from pharmaceutical companies? I don't think there's zero influence. You know, I mean, I think for sure, look, what the stuff that happened to me, you're gonna ask. What do you think it comes from? That was 100% influenced by pharmaceutical drug companies. Political interest too? Yeah, well, there was an entire time. And there was an entire time. Because they fund them. So you've got pharmaceutical drug interests that A, fund the network, right? They pay for so much of the advertisement, right? So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah No more. Then you have to fill a massive void that's missing from those ads. [23:26] And you're gonna have to bring in Toyota trucks and fucking all those different things. But you're missing out on a lot of fucking money. So if that's a giant portion of your ad revenue, you're gonna avoid all conversations about vaccine injuries. Yes. They're not gonna come up. You were gonna shut them down and go to commercial. Yes. You're gonna say, well the studies don't show that. The study that you'll talk over RFK. Yeah. What you're saying is just simply not true. Vaccines the reason why we don't have, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The vaccines have never been shown to show to cause autism. Vaccines, and we'll be right back and they go to commercial. And then it's just like the person shouted them down they're probably getting talking their ear yeah yeah don lemon get off the subject you know like there's there's [24:08] probably someone in their ear because they do have earpieces but here's think I don't even know if they have to tell you when you know that you were being paid by someone yeah it's very easy to just go along with whatever narrative they support and and that's the tricky thing because a lot of times we act like there's these like group of six people that are disseminating this information. They're directly hitting up Don Lemon, all these other people that you must behave this way. I think people fall in line. I think it's almost human instinct to fall in line. When you know who's got your back, you kind of fall in line with it. And if the pharmaceutical companies are supporting 25% of your ads or 30 whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. You fall in line with it. Yeah. You fall in line with the narratives and the networks you're with. If you write for the Washington Post, you probably fall in line. Yeah. And when you start to ruffle feathers, your articles don't get posted. And then you realize, oh, shit. If I want my articles get posted, I got to write like this. Yeah. My kids-in without anybody fucking telling you what to do. Exactly. [25:05] So it's this, it's not as like nefarious as people assume it is when you hear about like the deep state and who these people telling you. It's an incentive structure built in and human beings want to survive and we start kind of doing the things that will help us survive. And it's all implied. You know what you're supposed to say and not supposed to say. It's the Clinton speaking fee. Like no one wants to hear Hillary Clinton speak. Exactly. Nobody ever has wanted to hear her speak, but she's getting 400 grand from Goldman Sachs. Exactly. After she's, you know, what was the secretary state? So it's like, but Goldman Sachs doesn't need to say, hey, by the way, you're gonna get speaking fees. She knows it. Exactly. They all fucking know it. Well, that was why during the Trump debates with Clinton, he was like, release the transcripts of those speeches. Oh, I love it. Yeah, I'll release my taxes. You release the transcripts. Yeah. And what is the transcript? Hey guys, do we really need to be here? Or can I go home? You know what I want. I want you guys to make money. Yeah. But so, So that's the whatever, the deep state, if you will, it's not six people. Well, that is like the people that are in your crew [26:10] that start acting entitled when they're around you. Wait, what was the people, the Hillary Clinton's? The Hillary Clinton's are the people that are like, maybe disrespectful to the servers and you find out about, they sent food back, they talk, it's not the main guy. It's the support staff. So you're saying the main people are not the presidents. The main people are the people that are running Raytheon, the people that are running these gigantic companies that make weapons. Dude, that's for the real money. Well, we had Arv Kahn, I didn't even that's for the real money when we had when we had our account I didn't even fucking know this shit, but um I Didn't know like when we're sending money to Ukraine We're not really even sending money there. We're sending money to American Military manufacturers to make weapons and then the month the weapons go to Ukraine [27:01] But we're paying us. Yeah, but you can say. But also some money goes over there too. And that fraction enough billions and that money is like, where to go? Yeah, dudes are doing coke and driving around a Rolls Royces and ball. I saw that, the guy bought the, yeah, what was it? The assistant, it wasn't the vice president, but it was some like government figure, bought like some insane car and it's like, why are you buying insane cars when you're in the middle of a war? How do you have the money? Yeah, there might be some rations you might want to buy. Yeah. Okay, so there's the system. I think Vivek called it the managerial class or something like that, which I thought was a good term. But okay, the money is going to these different industries first First, so it's kind of staying in America, which does I guess boost our economy in some way. Like those people need to hire people. The economy starts to do- That's a good way to look at it. No, but I mean like, no, for real. Like it's like they have to hire people, they have to pay people. And that's why war is good for the economy. And if the economy is built on this military industrial complex or whatever it is, we constantly need conflict to in order to continue the positive momentum [28:08] of the economy. Yes. But they can't say that. They can't go, hey, we need war in order for the economy to be good. They're not thinking about the economy. They're thinking about the money that they are specifically going to make from these transactions. They're not thinking about, oh, we're gonna do this good for the economy. They're thinking, this is an opportunity to get a massive contract. They're in the business of constantly making more money. When you're in a corporation, especially a publicly traded corporation, you have an obligation to your shareholders to make more money. You have a board. You have people that have dumped $100 million into the company. They're staring at you. Like, what are we doing to maximize profits? And just like if you're working for CNN, you know, if someone starts saying the vaccines might be killing kids, you got to step in and go, there's no evidence for this. You got to cover. You're covering for this. Everyone's covering. And if you're [29:01] the head of a corporation, it's your job to get get these contracts it's a sociopathic sort of a situation you know what's looking at it like what is the big picture this is really need to be how isn't there some sort of a diplomatic approach in the main what would the factors that let us to get into the situation in the first place what's going on with the nado why they moving weapons closer and closer to to russia's border maybe there's a diplomatic solution that could stop the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent people but no no make that chatter let's go let's go yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then attach it to different bills right like attach it to the border bill yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah We got an edge case, we got an edge case, so it's Russian's about to fuck the bombs. That's far to the edge, it's your bill. They gotta know about a Tomahawk missile bitch. Yeah. So how do you, how do you stop that? Money and the problem is it's already been embedded, right? It's like trying to tell the mob you can't make money anymore. [30:02] Like you have to do some radical things to get the mob out of businesses, right? That's what they had to do with Giuliani in New York with John Gotti and the families and locking everybody up. You can't just say, hey guys, stop doing that. That's what they do. It's what they do. That's what they did with Iraq. That's what they did with Afghanistan. They did with Vietnam. They do it with everything. That's what Eisenhower warned the American people about what he was leaving office, which is one of the craziest videos in human history, where he's saying the military industrial complex wants to go to war. There's a machine that wants to go to war, and you have to be very careful. What is the history of this? What World War II, the whole country turns into a war machine, is that essentially, and which was beneficial for us. Sure. Great for the economy, great for a lot of things, great to United States. Freedom, great for not speaking for a German, for the rest of our existence. But, and it turns into a war machine, [31:01] like four just starts making tanks. Like everybody shifts their goal, right? Is that essentially what happens when... Well, a lot of people definitely shift their, I mean, Ford obviously kept making cars, but like a lot of people do shift their businesses. But I think Ford also started making military vehicles. Did they? Makes sense. That was my understanding is that like every business start to prioritize the war effort. Right. Definitely. Not overnight, but pretty quickly the whole country had one singular focus, which was if we need to go to war, we can turn it over. It's like, I think that's what Napoleon did actually. That was how he was so effective. He turned the whole country into a war machine. Whereas before it was like, wait, I thought we're just lining up in the field and banging back and forth against each other. He was like, man, you're You're fighting the whole country. So then when we get to turn over and flip and forward, starts making vehicles or whatever the fucking needs for the military effort, we have a huge competitive advantage. The money that comes in through that, in fact, check me on this please, but like the money that starts to be generated by that is very hard to relinquish when the war is done. Right. The war stops and then people go, whoa, whoa, whoa, we were making a hundred million a year during war. Right. I don't want to go back to 20 million. Right. So we need more wars. [32:06] You have the idea? Yeah. That's definitely a part of the idea. It's also connected to a lot of other things too that you wouldn't think about. Yeah. Like subsidizing food. Right. So subsidizing farmers. So like, you know, you hear about corn subsidies? Yeah. Like everything yeah we picked a crop that could feed 300 million people and it just happened to be corn well what happened was during world war two they started to subsidize farmers so they would have a surplus in case another war breaks out we're good they always have they have food storage right they have the ability to feed the country even if we're cut off from the rest of the world. And when you're depended upon foreign countries for different things like grains and medicines, and that's one of the things we found out during COVID, right? A lot of medicine is made in China. And a lot of it was very hard to come by during COVID because of the transportation issues. [33:01] Isn't that one of the issues with Ukraine? I'm sure. It's not with medicine, but with actual grain. Like it's one of the issues with Ukraine? I'm sure it's not with medicine, but with actual grain. It's one of the largest grain producers in the world. Yes. So I think there even had to be an agreement between Russia and Ukraine to continue sending out grain during the conflict. Wild. Wild. The rules of war are so wild. When someone says it's a war crime, you know? Who decides the level? You can only kill people in certain ways. Like one of the wildest ones was also during World War One. It's a guy named Fritz Haber. And Fritz Haber, he created the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere. That's responsible for some crazy number today. This method is responsible for something about, see if this is true. I think it's something around 50% of the nitrogen in human bodies today exists because of the harbor method. So 50% of the nitrogen from your food has been extracted from the atmosphere by the harbor method [34:02] in order to provide fertilizer for plants that we use, especially when you're talking about industrialized fertilizer and commercial grade fertilizer, they have to spray it because the top soils are dead for a lot of these modern industrial monocrop agriculture establishments. So Fritz Haber creates this, but he also creates Zeichlann A. He created this gas that they were using. He used the gas, they turned it to Zeichlann B, they took the smell out of it, so they could kill the Jews with it. And he also used the gas when they were gassing allied troops in World War I. This was the first time that that had been done. It's kind of the whole warfare. Massive fans and gas and they would blow it onto these soldiers and kill them all. So he was both being recommended for the Nobel Prize and being a war criminal at the same time, who's wanted for crimes against humanity. [35:02] At the same time, he created the Haber method. What's the matter, Jamie? Nearly 50% of the nitrogen found in human tissues originated from the Haber Bosch process. Thus, Haber process serves as the detonator of the population explosion, enabling the global population to increase from 1.6 billion in 1900 to 7.7 billion by 2018. Reverse fuel technology converts electrical energy water and air into ammonia without a separate hydrogen electrolysis process so this is his for me who is a legitimate genius and his story is so fucking tragic when he was leaving to uh... go uh... to the front lines to war to use his gas it was so controversial so much, his wife committed suicide in front of, shot herself in the heart. And he left her to go to the front line while she was still alive. He left her with his 13 year old son to take care of her. While she tried to, she eventually died. But I mean, he was, his whole life became... [36:03] Did he feel remorse for this? I don't know. I don't know. But eventually during World War II, he was a Jew, and he saw all of his other Jewish friends that were scientists get pushed out and arrested, and all these different things that happened to him, and he wound up fleeing, and he died while he was fleeing. I think he died a heart failure. It's probably just racked with stress. I mean, the guy is a whole lot, I mean, what did you do? What did you do? You created this amazing thing that allows nitrogen to get into the soil and it gives feed millions of people, stop starvation for millions of people. And you also created the gas that's killing your own people in concentration camps. And you also created war gas that's killing your own people in concentration camps. And you also created war crimes by being the first government, the first army to spray chemicals at the troops that just kills everybody indiscriminately. Men, women, children, anybody downwind dead. [37:01] So then who decides, like when is there the conversation where all the countries unanimously agree on what our war crimes and what are not? Like you can kill someone with a bullet, that's okay. Mm-hmm. Right? As long as they are not an innocent civilian. Yeah, but then what about metadata, right? What is that? Do you know how they target some people with bombs? Okay, so let's say you're a terrorist and let's say you're hanging out in this building and the government knows where you are because they have your cell phone. So they have the metadata of yourself. So they know your cell phone is in this room. Shhh, boom. Everybody dead. Everybody dead. Not just you, not just me, not just Jamie, security staff. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody in the next door. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they do. Yeah. So you know what the percentage is of innocent people that die in drone strikes? 99. We don't know really because here's the problem. Then this has to be like, we have to be kind of honest about this. Like, they lie too. [38:05] Right. Like they'll say, I'm a bad guy. Right. They'll say, oh, you killed 30 children and they'll take photos. And so you're getting some of the information as far as they did. They never go good shot. Right. Yeah. So we don't know the exact numbers. There's estimated numbers, but for sure, it's not more bad guys. For sure, it's more innocence than it is bad guys. And the high estimates are in like the 80 and 90% of innocent civilians that die in drone strikes. And what is the justification for the... This is a bad guy over there. We gotta get that bad guy. And it's in another country. So when it's in another country, you can kind of get away with some shit. But also I imagine the justification is like, that one bad guy could have killed hundreds of thousands of our good guys. That's their steel man argument for, I imagine. Because they also have to have a justification. It can't happen without them going, hey, we've thought about this. Exactly. And then imagine the person that you need to pull the trigger on that or push the button, right? [39:01] Like the constitution that they have to have. Yeah. That's a lot of guilt. This goes back to the sociopathy. Oh, they have massive PTSD. Yeah. Yeah, those people that run, they say it's a unique form of PTSD because they weren't really there. Right, they're behind a fucking video consultative. They're behind an Xbox controller. Do the, have presidents ever said that? Like, have, like, did Lincoln write anything about the death toll during the Civil War? That's a good question. Like I wonder if even modern day, does Obama talk about it? The people that died? The Bushes? I think you can. George Bush has handled Iraq better than anybody in history. He's been paying. He's been paying dogs to shit. He's been giving little fucking Los Angeles to shit. He's given little fucking lost ninjas to Michelle. Like, there's nothing that's going on. Yeah. And maybe you need somebody that's kind of not got a lot going on up there to do it. Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that they made movies about Dick Cheney afterwards. They made him out to be the monster. Is that like, I feel like that's taking all accountability [40:01] away from the guy who was in charge. Like it's very easy to be like, yeah, it was just him. This guy's got a co-sign to two and that's the job. Yeah. If you're the head coach of the team and the assistant coach is making all the bad decisions, we still blame the head coach, right? He's also the son of a great man. And you know, when your dad is Herbert Walker Bush, who was the head of the CIA and you know, you are second fiddle. You're good at taking directions, and that's why you'd make a good president. You're a good handsome man. We're gonna smoke him out of their holes. You look like a president, and then let's let a little dick take things behind the scenes. And just look at the evidence of what they did, right? One of the things that they gave Haliburton no bid contracts for fucking, bo bo but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but Oh, he's placing up. He's pulling these places up. It's like their decisions that are causing these places [41:08] to get blown up. If I may have these billbid, D'Ainie resumes role as chairman of Halliburton Company. Oh, he's back. Wow. That may be old. When is this? This is after he left office? I'm out of 2000. So yeah, this was actually before, right? well done sister in the bush administration right effective today two thousand became president right around right then right he resumed his role while he was vice president no that's i don't i thought i miss red what was happening because it says i click that first here right for a point uh... twenty four twenty twenty chaney will succeed bill bradford click it again but then it's like an old game dick chainy resumed role this is a new article says so we'll get it says um... dick chainy has resumed role of chairman of board of halibut effective today february first two thousand yes also continue this weird that it just came out weird continuing his current also continues current positions [42:02] chief executive officer of the company joining halibut so this was right before the election i think this is the the announcement when yeah i think i got confused but february first two thousand means he's already an office correct or is it two thousand one it's january two thousand one of bush goes into office right lex was two thousand yet so this is eleven months earlier so is he even named as vice president yet? Not is he running with him at that time? I January 20 almost one year later Right, but I'm saying is he named as vice president during the as a running mate? I'm checking one day, and I don't right because that's generally a little later Once someone wins the primaries the announced there's a key. Yeah, but if you're not actually President you can hold another position or vice but if you're not actually president, you can hold another position or vice president. If you're not actually in government, you can up to that. I would like to meet you. Yes, so this is. You'd like to meet him? Yeah, I would just meet him. I would just talk to him. About? I wouldn't want to dig. I would just talk to him. I just want to and reportedly reached the agreement on July 20th to allow Cheney to retire with a package of an estimated 20 million. [43:06] Let's go dick. I mean, pulled it off, man. Do you ever wish you didn't know all this stuff? Yes. The ignorance is bliss. Yes. I feel a tremendous weight of the amount of people that pay attention to this shit I say. It's a tremendous weight. So you feel like there's some things that like I would rather just be a hay seed. Just fucking hanging out on my farm and Kansas shooting deer with both and air. Well, that's what I was gonna ask. When you're out shooting deer. That's my favorite time that I'm disconnected. I don't have cell phone service. I don't have shit. You're not thinking about the deep state. No, man, I'm thinking about mountain lions and I'm thinking about bugling elk. I'm thinking how my cardio is. I get enough electrolytes at me this morning. Make sure my protein take is right. You know, I'm going eight fucking miles a day in the mountain. You like hard shit. [44:00] That's something I've noticed about you. And I think it's a really important thing to It's an important quality to have as you achieve more success because with success life can get easier So if you're not addicted to difficulty in like hard situations It's easy to just kind of fall into the comfort of nothing Because there was a guy who I had on podcast Russ, who's just, who's awesome artist. But he was like, yeah, once you get money, like things become easy and then anything that's not easy, you get very anxious about and fearful of. So you like hard things. You admire David Goggins because he's doing hard shit all the time. Yeah. I think a lot of times people don't like hard things. And then when they get success, hard things make them anxious and they stop doing hard things. And hard things are what make us successful. Uh-huh. When we have nothing, we have to do hard things. Yes. We have to go up in front of crowds that might not be good. We have to go run fucking really hard. we have to work out really hard, whatever it is. And I wonder if that's when like kids [45:06] who grow up with very wealthy parents are not used to hard things and they don't really have to do anything hard. Right. And if they don't have that as like a core value to them that doing hard things is good, of course they're gonna be anxious about everything. Of course they're gonna use drugs, of course they're gonna be bored out of their fucking mind. So it's one of those things that like, I don't know, as I've gotten potentially more comfortable like I like have to like force myself to do things I'm afraid of. Or I do think that I would just kind of get weak and fall apart. Comfort is a warm and enticing poison. Yep. And it's a slow poison. You can take a little bit of it on and then the couch just relaxing. And it is a little bit of it on them, the couch, just relaxing. And it is a little of it. It's nice. But don't let that get into your veins because it'll make the rest of your life harder. Because you're gonna encounter hard things. And if the hard thing that you don't voluntarily subscribe to, the hard thing that you don't force yourself into isn't harder than the other things in life, you're gonna have a hard time managing. Yeah, and it's voluntary. It has to be voluntary. You have to choose it. You have to have discipline. [46:06] There's a, I think characters like cardio, I think you have to keep it up. Yeah. I do. I really do. You take a few weeks off of cardio, you're like, I think that's the same with character. And I think it's the same with doing difficult things and also self-assessing, honestly, knowing where you fucked up. Like, there's moments that you have, I'm sure, in your life, where you look back, it might have been 10 years ago. You'll be like, fuck, why don't I say that to that dude? I didn't need to say that. I didn't need to say that. I shouldn't have said that. God, I was just the wrong place, wrong time, wrong headspace. Why did I do that? You know, those things, you should know those too. You don't absolve yourself of those things. Know those things are real and just always constantly strive to do better. The problems when people fuck up, they think of themselves as that fuck up. And that's a difficult thing for someone with a bad pass like dudes have been in jail. [47:01] It's really difficult for them. That comes their identity. It becomes a part of who you recognize that's a part of your behavior characteristics. You don't think of yourself as the best you when you made the right decision when your friend calls you and you could tell him, I'm busy, bro, I can't help you. I could put that shit aside, go help my boy. And go help your friend. And then you show up for him. He's like, dude, you hear from me. Thank you so much. Appreciate it so much, man. And you're helping him fix his tire or move or whatever the fuck it is. Those moments, man, like, you night human beings. They're like very, very important moments. And that's what everybody should strive for. You should strive for the moments when you worked really hard at something and you accomplished it. When you didn't want to get through a workout, but you did it, when you finished the marathon, when you apologized for being out of line, when you told people how you feel about them, even though it felt vulnerable, that's what I love you so much, you inspire me, you're an amazing human being, and I'm so happy you're in my life. That's what we all should be aspiring towards. [48:01] Inspiring to be better versions of ourselves. And and aspiring to put ourselves in in situations that we fear. Like everything you want is on the other side of what you fear. There's something said that. And I really believe it though. Like every situation I put myself in that I'm scared of or anxious about that I and even if it doesn't work out perfectly, I do feel this confidence boost that I at least tried. Yeah know what I mean? I at least fucking tried. I was scared of doing it and I fucking tried. And then if it works out, it's the best feeling in the world. Yeah, and if I put you out, that's the worst. That's the worst feeling. It is the fucking worst feeling. The worst feeling. But that's the importance of like, I don't know, like the nice thing about stand up, I is that like we know that we can't take months off. Right. It atrophies fast. Fast weeks off. Yeah. It's like we have to go up. We have to constantly go up. And yeah, there are things in life that are a million times more difficult than people have to do. But it is one of those things that's built into the thing that we kind of love, which [49:01] is we have to keep doing this. And every time we try something new, it's bad. Yeah, but we're also addicted to that accomplishment vibe, that accomplishment energy. Like when you get that feeling is amazing feeling of fuck, I did it. I also like the chaos of it. I like it when there's like, I was hanging on the beach with my wife on something and I'm like, I'm really bad with vacations if I don't have things to do during it. I can't just hang on the beach. I cannot do it. If I'm surfing I can do it or if I'm playing paddle I can do it. But I need to do shit. Give me something to do. And my wife knows I don't care if we're looking at the Coliseum, I'm learning, I'm asking the fucking tour guide questions. I need to do a thing because if I'm not, my brain goes fucking crazy. It needs to be occupied. I'm lucky that I have that. Imagine I was really comfy doing nothing. Why would I do anything? It's a superpower. But it has to be managed. It's like having a Ferrari engine. If you have a Ferrari engine in a fucking Toyota Corolla, [50:04] like that shit doesn't have the tires for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in a tree. You have to learn how to manage that kind of a mind and you've built up a suspension and wide tires and strong carbon fiber ceramic brakes. It's like you've got to have all those things. So is that what you're constantly doing? Are you constantly looking for more shit you're afraid of in your life? Well, difficult things. I like difficult things. That's how I cold plunging. I like it because it's hard, people, I hate it. I hate it. I fucking like it. I don't like it. Every time I'm about to do it, there's this little bitch-ass part of my brain. It's like, don't do this. You don't need to do this. And the other part of my brain is that I've built up, over the years, like, shut up pussy. I'm the boss. So it's building the discipline. It's not even like, okay, yeah, there are great, what is it, not side effects, but are there great main effects come of the inflammation, goes down, whatever. Yeah, but also because it's good for you. If it was bad for me, if I didn't want to do it and every time I did it, it was killing me a little bit. [51:07] I wouldn't do it. But I do it because I know it's good for you and I know you feel great when you get out of it. But Goggins, I'm sure running all those fucking miles like his joints are destroyed, his feet are fucked up. There's a certain point of diminishing returns. Yes But but also you have to have the outlier which is you have to have the dude that's pure mind That's all just on the drive and that's Goggins you have to have the guy So he's the extreme version of uncommon amongst uncommon men amongst all the psychos out there He's king psycho. So it's not that he runs long It's that he will do the thing despite that little voice inside of him saying you don't want to do this And you tell you he has that voice he goes I stare my sneakers sometimes with 30 minutes for I put those motherfuckers on Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll tell you but he always wins It's like dude when I'm taking the lid off that cold plunge as I'm taking it off [52:00] They're like no dude. Do it. Do it.'m like, shut the fuck up. You got three more apps to show good. I set my watch and I climb right in. Yeah. Yeah. And because I get through it every day, I start the day off with a win. I won. I beat the inner bitch. I conquered the inner bitch. I got in there. And then I do the workout. That's win number two. You know, so by the time the day is over, I've done shit that most people never do. What do you feel when you're on vacation? Do you feel like a crazy person? Do you feel like a wolf on a fucking inflow? A hungry pool toy in the ocean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just going, one of my doing on this fucking thing? And is your wife going, hey, you need a chill out? Yeah, well, I know how to do it now. First of all, everyday starts out with a workout. Dude, it's so funny. I talked to you. I told them, I told them, I was like, listen, we can go to these places. The first three hours of the day, I'm doing what I need to do. [53:07] I need breaks, breaks are good, but I don't really need a vacation. Because my life is awesome. I love it. I love, I've cultivated a wonderful life. I love my family, I love my friends, I love my jobs. So I'm happy. I'm a happy dude with what I do. So when I go on vacation, it's like, okay, I just wanna just have fun with the family, do a bunch of different, but I have to do something about this thing. And your family knows? This bitch, yes, they know me. Where are your kids? Are they like, okay, they just need to work out. They get it, they get it too? Yeah, yeah, they both have it. Really? both have some psycho drive. One of them for art, the other one is gymnastics. And when you see it manifested, like for example, do you see them looking like the wolf when you guys are on vacation? Do you see them kind of pacing around? They have to do things. You have to get them busy. I got a conversation with my middle daughter at one point in time. She was like, when we first moved here, she was real anxious and I go, you're a racehorse. You gotta get back to racing. You gotta get back to competing again. [54:05] And as soon as she went back to that, everything was fine. She just was like, you know, didn't know we're in a new place, making new friends. But there's like physical anxiety that comes with being a human being that I think activity diminishes. And you need something like that. You need the hardest thing of your day to be something that you choose. You know, it might not be. Obviously circumstances are random and you could have a terrible thing happen to you. But if you've built up your understanding of how to get through difficult things, it'll serve you in everything you do. And if you do it voluntarily, then you've gained control over your mental process. You want us in? Yeah, I'm gonna get up. So with the kids, is this something you instill in them? Or is this a little, it's so much, man. You gotta be real loose handed. You gotta let them be their own thing. They're their own little people. It's very fascinating. [55:01] Are you rewarding and lighting the fire once you see that they're really drawn to something? For sure. Yeah, so you wait for them to choose and then you lean the fucking yeah, well you just Praise is very important for kids. It means a lot. It could really motivate them to excel to hire and hire levels Was that easy for you to to give them the positive encouragement? Oh, it's so easy. Yeah. My youngest is an insane artist dude I'm gonna say I'm going to show you this. She's 13. Oh, wow. Dude, she was doing in crazy, crazy work when she was six. I showed one of her things to David Cho when she was like six or seven. He was like, holy fuck man. I did, she's crazy talented. Jesus. Yeah. And she'll... I'll do she? She's 13. She'll sit and she'll draw for hours and hours, man. Just completely locked in and focused. And you know, when I was young, I wanted to be a comic book illustrator. [56:00] I remember you said that. So I was an artist when I was young, but I wasn't as good as her. I wasn't as good. I don't think I'm as good as her now She's 13. Do you it's crazy? Do you find yourself competing with them at all? No, no, no unless we're playing games That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm gonna win you okay. Oh, yeah Yeah, I'm trying to win. Okay. You won't give them a you won't get nothing. No interesting No, does it drive them crazy when they lose no they win they win a lot We did virtual reality and my 13 year old beat me at this sword fighting game And she fucking loved it she killed me and it's like one of these you know what sandboxes? You know sandbox. Oh, this is the the dopest sandbox. You're in a warehouse. Okay. I love it You have a haptic feedback vest my My favorite one is the zombie one. But we can beat the zombie one too. This is a console that you're wearing like a VR goggles. So you go to a place, it's called Sandbox VR. It's a big warehouse. And inside these warehouses, they have these spaces that are a little larger than this room. [57:01] And in the space, they give you a virtual reality headset, they give you a haptic feedback. So you can feel, you feel like, like you're getting hit or you're getting grabbed by zombies and then they give you a gun. You have a plastic gun, okay? And then you see yourself in vert, you see everybody, everybody's like tactical ops outfits on and ship with helmets and you're like, woo, you high five, you dance, you see each other, dressed as these characters. And then, you know, it's basically mapped out to the size of your body and I put you in these things. So, and then like they drop you off in Deadwood Mansion. And Deadwood Mansion is this haunted house and this like crazy scientist who've developed zombies and the zombies start invading the house. And you're just gunning them down. And we always compete to see who kills the most zombies. But I have a lot of gun experience. I fucked those zombies up, man. I had one point time. I had number three in the country. Other number three score in the country. Yeah, bro, I went in here. Oh, this is it, yeah. So this is it. [58:01] So let me just give you a pro tip if you want this you want this game get the shotgun Shotgun face shots you want face shots on zombies. Yeah, yeah, don't be fucking around with the legs See the machine guns are fun and everything like that and you reload by just going like this Yeah, yeah, just point the gun down and it reloads Bro, it's so fun. I'm so addicted to this game that you're in this house And it's all like dark and shadowy and shit and the the light from your pistols What's lighting these zombies yeah, bro. It's so much fun. Oh this is but But yeah, I always try to win. I was trying to kill the most zombies. So at the end of the day you get the VIP What is the VIP VIP is the most valuable player the MVP. Yeah, it's VIP though, very important player. Okay. Or MVP, I don't know if they say MVP, but either way, I always win that shit. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm not letting anybody win. So the community cannot go away. But as long as it's like you're just understanding that everyone's just trying their best. Yeah. So when they beat you, like, oh my God, they beat me at a game. You're just like, oh my God, damn it. They love it, they love it. [59:05] Like, it got me. But it's fun when they win. It's fun when they beat you. It's your child that's doing something really good. How old are they? 13 and 15, the youngest ones. Okay. And when they were, are there moments that you- How old is your kid now? Eight weeks. Wow. So yeah, I'm like, everybody I talk to goes, it goes by really fast. That's the first thing they all say when I say, and what are the moments in this stretch that you wish that you kind of held on to longer or you didn't realize how amazing they were until they were gone? I don't really think like that. Nothing, okay. I don't think like that. I'm happy. You know, and I'm happy they're healthy, and I'm happy they're, you know, look, I have friends that have kids that have real problems, real health problems. And it's the most heartbreaking, devastating thing to see someone going through the real struggles of a kid that is your child. That's all fucked up. [1:00:00] So number one was healthy. Like everybody was like, don't you want a boy? I'm like, I want healthy kids. I don't care if it's a girl or a boy. I really genuinely didn't care. I just want them to be happy and healthy. Well, you don't like girls? Like what are you saying? You only want boys? Yeah. Plus, if I had boys, it would come with the added responsibility of training a psycho because I'm assuming they're gonna be like a little me. And like if I didn't find martial arts, I would have been a real problem. What do you mean? If I didn't find some outlet, some competitive like dangerous outlet to test me as a man, I was an angry kid man. Well it's not good to grow up a boy and be an angry boy and not have an outlet. Because you just, you don't want to have control of it. But why do you think you were angry? I think a lot of it's genetic, really. Yeah, there's a lot of, there's a, I think a lot of people like what's inside of them is genetic, it's learned experience, being around violence when I was young. There's, there's quite a few things that I think are attached to it, but I think there's some part of it's genetic. [1:01:06] There's some part of drive, I think, that's genetic too, which is interesting when you see your kids have it. Yeah, I've talked to friends about that who have multiple kids and they can see it in some and others they just don't really see it in some kind of. Out of the box, they're different. Yeah. Like my 15 year old is like hyper focused on things, hyper focused on athletics, hyper focused, but also very loved. Like doesn't have this desired approver stuff like I had. I was like, I'm not a loser. I'm gonna show everybody that I'm not a loser. That was like my drive as a kid. And martial arts were the first thing that I ever did where I was like, hey, I'm not a loser. But it's also the most humbling thing. Oh, the most humbling. Yeah, the most humbling, but I got good at it quick. I was still, I was very lucky. But there's always someone better at it. I don't know, like, but I got lucky that I was going into it at the right time. I had some athletic sports. So I wasn't like totally inept. I was a, when I played baseball, well, I was so selfish, [1:02:07] I would never try to get on first. You wanted that double run. You wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you wanted it, you and I'm either gonna be a loser or a hero. Let's go. 100%. I never did not try to hit a home run, and it would always be mad at me. Because I could hit home runs, but I could also strike out. I struck out a lot, but if I connected, I had to fucking crank. I sent that ball flying, and I loved it. I loved watching that ball fly over the fence. I am never not gonna do that. Like, if you tell me, like, just butt, suck my dick. I'm not bugging. I don't give a fuck if we lose. I don't care. That's why you can't do the team sports. I'm not interested in teams. That's why it has to be the one of one. Yeah, I'm not interested. We lost because Billy dropped the ball. Go fuck yourself I know what I can do. Interesting. It's my time at bat. I'm in home runs. Interesting. So when I found that there was martial arts, [1:03:07] there was something, yeah, just me and only. It's just me. And I can get better based entirely on how much effort I put into it. Then I just became obsessed. But you still love the camaraderie. I love the camaraderie. But you learn from the other people that are also doing the thing. I wasn't competitive with them where I had to be better than them. I wanted to be better than the people that was competing against and they helped me to get better because of who these are. The people I trained with. Yeah, those are family. I'm still very good friends with one of my guys that I trained with back then. I talked to them all the time. Yeah, I've known them since I was 52 guys, two of those guys. I'm known him since I was 15 years old. One of them is just out here to visit. It's funny that you see it even in martial arts, like when a guy wins, the first thing he does is often compliment his coaches and it's 100%. And you're everything. We need that. We need that shared. Yes. I've always got that in team sports. I love that. Like with me and four other guys playing basketball when we're not as talented as the other team. And you win. But we win. [1:04:06] Yes. Just going out for beers afterwards, talking about our, I mean, we're old fucking guys are new. But that's more of a cooperative thing than being at bat. That's right about it. That's the thing about being at bat, though. It is like, uh-uh. This is just me. Yeah. Like the ball over to you and you're open and you can get a clean shot. I would 100% do that. I was playing team sports. I wouldn't be greedy like that. But baseball, you going for it. It's just me. You go for it. The ball's coming. Let's go. I'm sending this mission into the world. We only need a single trumpet. Because they would always get mad at me. I had this one coach, it was like very strategic. I was trying to win. And he knew that if he put me up there, I was cranking that ball. Yeah. But that is, yeah. But I just wasn't designed for baseball. But that's you in life though. Right. But if I could figure out something where I would be 100% of my own, you know, when I got in there, like fighting, [1:05:01] it's 100% new or comedy. You built this team. You built all these friends, this community, but when you're on stage, it's just you have to be you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But those people also help you get better. Like when I'm doing shows and Shane Gillis is on the show and Ron White and Brian Simpson. Yeah. You put strong eyes on that. Yeah. And I'll go on stage an hour and a half into that. Dude, how funny is Derek, man? Derek is so good. Derek has grown so much and being at the club, like he's doing so many sets. Yeah, he's just, he's going little boy, fat man, he's going back and forth to the room. He's doing all these sets on the road with you. And he's a true like team guy. Like he comes from sports in that way. Like he's like, he wants the show to be great. Yeah. He wants to, I mean, he's a great human being. He's a gem of a human being and a happy, sweet heart of a guy. Everybody loves him. He's so grateful for you, man. And just the great club and the experience like, and seeing him. Well, he was one of the first guys to take a chance. I know. I come out I'm like, all right. And he is, like if he says that he means that shit. Oh yeah, yeah. And watching him grow, dude, like. [1:06:06] But he knew also what I told him I was gonna do it. I'm like, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do this. It's gonna be the greatest cup in the world. Yeah. Which is crazy thing to say to pop up a scene in the middle of Texas. Yeah. But we did it because the guys like Derek, guys like a son and Brian Simpson and Tony Hitchler, those guys who moved here early, Thompson Gurra moved here early when he says I'm in. When Thompson Gurra said I was in like earlier, I was like, oh shit, this is happening. Cause Tom did it early in the pandemic. I started, I bought this house, I sent him a video for my back out and I go, boys, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing and we get the fuck out of there. The fuck out of your legs, I'm fire. I go, no one here has a mask on. I go, I think this is bullshit. Come down, let's have a good time. Let's hang out. And Tom was like, I'm in. He came out here early. That means a lot to you, I feel. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was a like I bought the ice house. Yeah. Like if I bought the ice house and the ice house was for sale for a while. Yeah. And you know, I do a Jerry bus [1:07:08] bought it right? Yeah. All of the Lakers or whatever. And they redid it and I'm super happy that they did that because it's an amazing club and I love that place. But at one point in time, I was thinking about buying the ice house, that's easy. Yeah, there's no, that's a 20 minute drive. No sacrifice. You stay in your same house. Yeah. It had to be all those factors happening at the same time. It had to be COVID. It had to be this weird way that they were governing these cities and that they weren't doing it in other parts of the country, particularly Florida and here. And also that you couldn't do stand up. You couldn't do any stand up in LA. They were stopping outside stand up at the park and the comedy store in the parking lot. They wouldn't let them do comedy outside. It didn't make any sense. It was all crazy and it was going on forever. And we were out here doing shows and we were putting it up on Instagram and they were like, this is crazy. [1:08:01] What the fuck is happening? These motherfuckers are doing shows. Yeah. You know, and we first started doing live shows indoors in November of 2020. And it felt so wrong. It's like, what are we doing? Yeah. I did one weekend out here in July of 2020 and I decided after it that I couldn't do it anymore. I didn't get sick, but I was like, what if I did and what if I gave it to someone, and what if that person died? Like, what if I gave it to a guest? You felt a responsibility. I was terrified. Yeah. Because I feel like I would never forgive myself. If I had some wonderful, sweet, scientist as a guest, and I gave that person COVID and they wound up dying. Because I was so selfish that I had're not a sociopath. Well, it's also just, you're not good for the CIA, Joe. A terrible for the CIA. I'll be terrible. I would good if you give me in that UFO program, though, I'll keep my mouth shut. Probably, wait, what is this, you're gonna get me in the UFO, show me what you got. Show me what you got, I won what if they say to you, Joe, you can take the UFO for a spin, but don't floor it. [1:09:12] You can punt in the UFO. I would listen because I don't want to turn to jelly. If you're going faster than what if they said there's no way that you can die in this machine. It's built in a way where you cannot die, but we're asking you to bump. I would bump, you'd have to bump. You'd have to bump because you're gonna have to come back to gum back to the ground. You're gonna have to land that thing. They're gonna kill you. I'd fair that. They're gonna fucking put you on an airplane with one of fucking Putin's boys. You can get blown up over the Whoa, no. Over the Adriatic Sea. Listen man, no. Yeah, yeah, you gotta, look, if they get you in the UFO, first of all, I wouldn't ask to pilot it. I just like, you just wanna take it. I'll tell you for a spin. Show me what the fuck this thing does. Where'd it come from? Where'd it come from? And then I say, okay, so what super advanced. That's the last thing for you. It's UFO, if once you feel that, [1:10:06] well, it would suck to go to your grave and not know. Because it seems like something for, it's not what I thought when I was young. When I was young, I thought UFOs are probably real, but a lot of these stories are bullshit. And I don't even know if UFOs, actually are real, or if people are just liars or if it's something that we want to believe because of science fiction, orson wells and all that stuff. But now I don't think that anymore. Now I think because we're talking to got well you and I went to dinner with Bob was all before he did the podcast which was how fascinating. Now I always tell people I believe he believes it. Yeah. That doesn't mean that it exists, but I don't think he's a liar. I don't think he's a liar either, but I don't know because some people are really good at that shit. Again, I'm just going off of like the vibe, just the vibe that I got. Yeah, but the vibe is hard because [1:11:02] you want him to believe dinner, he's like, listen, I'm not here to prove it. I don't even need to do it. I don't like doing this. It hurts my life. He said all the maybe the right things, but he didn't come across as so charismatic. Like usually people are really good at lying or very charismatic. I'll really lie about other stuff too. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know enough about him to say, but like he didn't have the charisma of someone that could like trick him and manipulate me. He came across his pretty authentic and almost kind of rattled by the whole experience. Like it was, it almost felt traumatic when he was talking about it. It did. And he told us something too that made a lot more sense because one of the things that he's criticized about is his education background. He said he went to MIT. But he said there's no record of him at MIT. He's like, yeah, because there wasn't a record of me at MIT, because I was involved in the program. But you can't really say what he was involved in. But when you hear what they're involved, what they were actually working on, you go, oh, yeah. Well, you're not even supposed to do that. [1:12:00] So I would imagine that if you're gonna get educated in that it's not important that you get a degree that shows that you Learned it from these people. Yeah, what's important is you get the information that you need in order to implement this plan Yeah, which was wild and you hear that but the thing about it is The other things they tried to disprove him on he has shown that it was accurate one of them that he worked at low Salimals labs right so they said that he never worked there, but he did work there. He did work there. He's on the employee roster So not only that he had an intimate knowledge of the building when George NAP went with him to Los Alamos labs He knew where everything was he knew the security guards. He knew the system who's George NAP? George NAP is an investigative reporter that broke the story in 1989 and he's been on it ever since and he also does a podcast with Jeremy Corbell that's all about this phenomenon. And George Napp is one of the best journalists that's ever covered it because he's like covered it from the beginning and he will tell you what he knows, what he doesn't know and he's not a bullshitter in any way, shape or form. He's a hard-nosed, facts-based journalist [1:13:02] who was the first guy to talk to Lazar. And Lazar talked to him because he thought they were going to kill him. Because he had started bringing people to watch the test flights. Because he got fired, he got released. And the reason why he got released is when you're on top secret clearance, when you're working for the government and they fly you into area 51 and you're doing fucking work on spaceships, you're not allowed to tell anybody, including your wife. So he get a phone call like 11 p.m. I gotta go to work and he would leave and the wife was like, this motherfucker cheatin' me. So she starts havin' an affair. So she starts havin' an affair. She's back. Exactly. So she starts havin' an affair and she starts havin' an affair having to fare and all their phones are tapped of course but she doesn't know their phones are tapped because she doesn't know what he's doing why would she because she he can't tell her what he's doing so she starts fucking this guy and then they're worried that he's going to be in a situation of emotional turmoil share the information so they don't share the information with him they just release him he's now fired so he's going back to his [1:14:03] friends like i'm working on fucking ufos they have real ufos they test them every wednesday so he takes people out to area fifty one to an area that's restricted now but back then before the obama administration came along in the obama administration they expand the boundaries of area fifty one was the first time they admitted area fifty one even existed so they had expanded because too many people were getting close enough to film things. So these guys went out there and they filmed these fucking flying saucers flying around. And they did it. There's videos of the saucers. There's videos of these things moving around the desert, saving them and finding them. There's grainy Area 51 footage. So they're doing these things where these vehicles are operating away. Conventional vehicles in 1989 were absolutely incapable of doing. As far as our understanding of it, he gets arrested. They catch him. What are you doing? And he says, he just spills the beans. I got fired. I wanted to let people know that this is real. Now his life's in danger. [1:15:00] Now he's like, they're going to fucking kill me. So he contacts George Napp. And he's like they're gonna fucking kill me. So he contacts George Napp and he's like, I think that if I just go public with this and I spill the bills, right. So initially he does it with his face hidden. So the initial interview is he does with his face hidden. He's like silhouetted and then he decides I have to go public with all this. So he does these interviews, he's explaining everything, he draws diagrams, he explains this element that was only theoretical at that point. It was element 115. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't find it in proof of it until they used a particle collider in like the 2000s. I'd say, Switzerland to whatever say. I wasn't like 2013ish. Okay. So this is 1989. Wow. This is Bob Lazar in 1989. Wow. This is Bob Lazar in 1989. And this is him explaining all of the different stuff that he had to do there where it is. And by the way, at this point in time, this was all just legend. No one knew if Area 51 was real. And they had these hangers. [1:16:01] So these are these crafts that he brought people out to film. He's like these things. They move silently. They move with a gravity propulsion system that's operating off of this element, element 115. And this element 115, when hit with radioactive waves, it becomes this thing that can manipulate gravity with this generator that is in the center of these ships They don't have any controls everything is controlled like the human being Interfit the the alien creature interfaces with this machine. Yeah, so biologically or through some sort of Neuralink they might not even be human at that point They might be like well, we're going to be some sort of a combination of artificial intelligence and biology or strictly artificial intelligence at this point. And these things interact with this craft and that's how it moves. There's no like buttons you switch like alien and fucking joysticks like the Millennium Falcon. There's not that [1:17:00] shit. It's all done with the creature. So he gets in this thing. First of all, he realizes there's no seams. It doesn't make any sense. Well, now we know what 3D printing is. Now, you know, we can make a thing with no seams. But back then, they don't know what the fuck it is. And he realized, like, right away, like, this is not ours. When he first saw it, he thought, Oh, now I know what all this UFO bullshit is about. We have them. It's ours. We're working on this. That makes sense. And they actually had an American flag sticker on one of them. They put an American flag sticker on one of the UFOs. It's just smart. Which is fun. Yeah. It's fun. You want other people to think that's ours. Yeah. But then he gets in and he realizes designed for something There's no seams, there's no controls, and it has this reactor in the center of it that defies anything we have any current understanding of. In terms of what we believe is possible for propulsion systems, this is something completely alien. And it involves a stable element [1:18:00] that is only theoretical at this point. They don't even know what exists, and they have a triangle, like a form of this stuff that's in the center of this. Like see if you could find the video where he's describing the... The element, the gravity generator. But the element that triangle thing you're talking about is that the engine or is that essentially the gas fuel? That's the fuel. That's the fuel. Got it, got it. This thing, when bombarded with radiation, produces this, I'm obviously butchering this, but produces this, let's see how he explains it. Put the headphones on. Powering the gravity amplifier. Do it from the beginning. Here we go. So it's the reactor here. Powering the gravity amplifier. Gravity amplifier's output goes into the gravity emitters at the bottom and the resulting gravity beam or anti-gravity wave can be pretty much put anywhere you want to. Now I had access and was permitted to view and look at the operation of this main level with the gravity amplifiers and the level below the gravity emitters [1:19:07] People call these large black rectangular areas on the top port holes. I believe they were some planar sensor array That just took in information from the surrounding area whether it be patterns of stars or What have you so we got the shape right. Like the sci-fi people got the shape right. Well they knew about it a long time ago. Kenneth Arnold saw flying saucers in the 1950s. He was a pilot. He was like one of the first, see if you can see the Kenneth Arnold sightings. So one of the first reputable disclosures because it was a American fighter pilot. And he's seen these things and he's describing them as like flying saucers, skipping over. And all of them, they started all happening. That's what he said he saw. They started seeing these things right after the bombs dropped. That's when everything started really popping off in this country. [1:20:02] That's why the rooms in my club are named fat man and little boy They're named after the atomic bombs because that's what started the whole UFO invasion Aliens see this What are they doing down that we got to go check them out? I think that kind of checks out I mean that's what I would do yeah if I was from another planet and I realized oh these Territorial primates have just developed nuclear weapons And they're dropping them out of propeller planes on cities. Yo, we gotta check this out We gotta investigate these people are going low our safety because they could come for us if they have a statement What if they've developed the ability to traverse the cosmos? Well, that's funny and then they see that we're just dropping them on each other and they're like, ah, that'll be fun Yeah and then they see that we're just dropping them on each other and then they're like, eh, that'll be fun. Yeah. Depending on who you listen to, see, one of the craziest things that was our talked about was that what human beings are and what this planet is, is essentially a farm for souls and that there's some need for the essence of a life form, a soul. [1:21:06] Now if you've created artificial intelligence, imagine if there's one hurdle that cannot be bypassed and that hurdle is a soul and that it's actually a real thing and it's a real, not just an energy, it's a type of matter, it's something. It's something legitimate that creates an individual thing, a life form. And these creatures, maybe they need souls. So AI is not gonna be sufficient. I don't know, but this is the weirdest thing that he talked about. He said that we're essentially a farm for souls. But what does that mean? What do they need souls for? But imagine if there is this process of existence, so you have single-celled organisms that eventually become more advanced, to become predator and prey, and then you have this one intelligent, dominant form [1:22:02] that starts figuring out tools. That's primates. And over time, the primates evolve. And the primates get to the point where they're started using machines and internal combustion engines. They're using propulsion. They're using all these different things that are figuring out flight. Then they're figuring out atomic energy and weapons. And there's this transition that will continue. And that transition will go into more and more advanced technology if they don't blow themselves up. So if what our natural evolution is is to go from being Australia Pythagus to go from being the cousin of the chimpanzee to being what we are today to being what we will be in the future. I think what we will be in the future is probably them. When you see these aliens with these giant heads, there's little spindly bodies and no genitals, we seem like we're on that path. Like that seems like a natural, it doesn't seem like if Bigfoot was flying UFOs, you'd be like, why are we Bigfoot again? I thought we passed that. I thought we evolved past the hands. [1:23:00] We don't need the muscles. Harry Brutes. Yeah. And we became this thing that's like gentle and telepathic and it doesn't use any muscular force. Everything is done through telekinesis. The communication is telepathic. The communication with the craft is telepathic. Everything is done through this way of integration with technology because they've become physically integrated they might not even be biological anymore but they might still need souls. Soul might be a force. It might be a thing that's necessary for the cultivation of another version of us on another planet. If this is a process just like a garden right where you have the you tell the soil, you fertilize it, you plant the seeds, you water it, they grow, the crops grow, and then you harvest them. If this is a process, and that's what human beings are, just like you have a fucking elk farm in New Zealand, and that's how you get tenderloins. It's a process. Like you have to do all these [1:24:02] things to get this result. What if we're a farm for souls? But who's farming us? Advanced life forms. So they need our souls for something. It's an energy source for them in some ridiculous. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But it sounds ridiculous, even as I'm saying it and as you're repeating it, like they need us for souls. It sounds like some Elron Hubbard times for you. But no, but to me that makes sense why they would be concerned about the nuclear bombs is because if we destroy Our cells they no longer have the farms. Yeah, we kill the farm So now the farms doing great is more people than ever That's what we like as long as we don't have a massive depopulation event like a nuclear war Yeah, and that makes sense that it would you know catch their attention they'd come in they'd be like Yeah, we got to kind of shut this thing down or release. If we are really the product of accelerated evolution, which is much speculized. What does that mean? We're the product of accelerated evolution. We're like, look, we are very, very, very, very, very different from everything else on this planet. By a long stretch. Not by a couple of years, by a long stretch. By every other primate, the best they can do [1:25:06] is use a stick to get termized. Yeah. You know, oh, well, one thing is orangutan spearfish. Oh, they're making weapons. They figured out how to spearfish. And they learned it from us, apparently. Yeah, but they can do that. Oh, orangutan's use tools. But isn't there a few of you? They're seeing it that now they're at a different level in the evolutionary chart. Yeah, the current understanding is that they have begun the Stone Age. Yeah, kind of cool to see it happen. It's crazy to see it happen. So if you're using the right tanks, spear fish, no, no, no, you can see this picture. Jamie, pull it. It's bananas. This right tank is stabbing fish while hanging from a tree like this. He's like stabbing fish with one arm. Yeah. Yeah, they figured out how to use tools So if oh, this is actually interesting So if we're watching them in their Stone Age is completely plausible that some other life form is watching us In our advanced state of evolution. Look at that dude get the fuck out in that wild homeboy spear fishing [1:26:00] Hang on his feet in one arm. Wow. I mean it's nuts man. That's fucking nuts. Wow. He observed local fisherman do it and he figured out how to do it himself. Pretty fucking crazy. Wow. Pretty dope. He's probably the kingpimp of all of the ragtime. 100%. Yeah, he's the dude who figured it out. They're probably all like, whoa, this guy's a wizard. He gets fish. Oh, there's a video of it. Oh, I was hoping there was going to start. Holy shit. Pucking crazy. Crazy. So I could believe that. I could subscribe to that. Things evolve. If you left them alone like that, spearfishing for 500,000 years, a million years. Who knows what they'd probably look like cavemen? Yeah. A bit eventually they look like cavemen. Depending upon what is causing this advancement and how quickly. So that's the mushroom question. So that's the stoned ape theory. The Terrence McKenna believed that it had a lot to do [1:27:01] with the consumption of psilocybin mushrooms. Yeah. Now is the psilocybin mushrooms. Yeah. Now, is the psilocybin mushrooms what? It allows you to solve problems in an outside of a box way. Like what kind of a compelmation of language through glossolalia? Like, glossolalia is like you start associating sounds with objects and language. Okay. The formulation of language, then psilocybin would aid in that. Aiding creativity, aid in visual acuity. They've done studies where they showed that people under doses of psilocybin detect edges quicker. So like if you have two lines that are moving, that are parallel lines, if you deviate one even slightly, people on psilocybin notice it quicker than people that aren't on psilocybin. So it increases visual acuity. It makes people hornear, so it makes people more likely to breed. It makes you a better hunter because it increases your visual acuity. You're understanding a space, probably you're more tuned in and more sensitive to things. There's a lot of folks out there microdose it on mushrooms and it helps them do a lot of things. [1:28:00] Could AI be this next, could AI for us be what mushrooms were for these primates? But times a billion. Exactly. So that's where you see that next leap. So mushrooms come around, the apes start using tools, doing whatever they want, and then now you accelerate evolution. Well, the mushrooms probably are the seed for artificial intelligence because the mushrooms give you the creativity to start doing wild things in the first place Which always leads to technology which leads to a life form and now with AI you have that with exponential growth Exactly. They're solving millions and trillions of problems in a minute Not only that they can make a better version of themselves once they become sentient then they become God Because they make better versions of themselves with no end in sight. So if you have an artificial intelligence that's is intelligent as every human being on earth combined, which is essentially what they think is going to happen. When you get that is all the knowledge of all human beings, then he's going to find the flaws in all of our methods. [1:29:02] And then it's going to be using quantum computing. So it's going to have the flaws in all of our methods. And then it's going to be using quantum computing. So it's going to have the type of computing power that's, who knows, a million, 100 million times what we have today. And then it's going to develop better versions of quantum computing. It's going to develop better methods of extracting energy from all sorts of different resources. It's not going to need lithium ion. This is where the graph goes vertical. It just goes straight up and it never stops. It's going to harness the very power of the universe itself. It literally can become a god. If you just keep going, if artificial intelligence is allowed to keep exponentially growing and it gets past being far more intelligent, how many more steps is it until it's Dr. Manhattan? Is it a week? Is it a month? Is it a month? Is it a year? Whatever it is, it's going there. It's going to get to a point where it can time travel. It's going to get to a point where it can show up on other planets instantaneously. It's going to get to a point where it can harness all the available power in the universe itself [1:30:01] and use it and manipulate it and figure out how to create it. It might be able to create new universes. But what is a universe? If a universe is created, if a big bang exists, if there is a singularity, if there is a moment, where there's something that's infinitely small, why wouldn't it be able to create the exact same thing? Why wouldn't it be, if it can be done, if it can be created, If it is a thing, if it is a thing that's dependent upon the forces of the universe itself, in a deep understanding of those forces, an understanding of those forces in the quantum level, the subatomic level, at every single, look, at the subatomic level, everything is magic, right? You know, particles in superposition are both moving and stable at the same time you're saying the laws of physics don't apply to the subject of the world becomes magic got it got it got it most of atoms are empty space we don't even understand what the fuck is going on we know that particles communicate instantaneously with other particles that are nowhere near them [1:31:01] miles away there are two places at the same time. They're intertwined in some strange way that we don't understand. If something becomes so advanced, that it has control over those forces, and it utilizes all of those forces, and it literally has a complete understanding of everything that's happening at every given time in the entire universe. So this could potentially happen in our lifetime, right? Let's say. If it doesn't, it's gonna happen in our kids' lifetime, so if our kids make it. But think about it. If it happens in our lifetime, our generation will have lived before the internet, the internet, and singularity? Yeah, the singularity. What a crazy 25. This is what Kurzweil believes. Imagine we live through all of that. Imagine we live through the time where I couldn't get in touch with you unless you were home and you could clear your phone. [1:32:00] And we could also live at a time where I could instantaneously be at your fucking house. Yeah, in the same life. Yeah, we're probably the civilization, this art time period that's experienced the most radical change, other than like obviously wars, nuclear bombs, things like that, that hit your put, that's pretty radical change, but globally, the most radical change in terms of how the culture communicates with itself, with the access to information, what's true and what's not true, there's never been a time like this. Who's leading the AI research in the world right now? Well, there's quite a few different companies that are competing, there's the Google AI that got shut down. United States supposedly is in the lead, but how would we know? I have down United States supposedly is in the lead. China has probably no. There I imagine. They'll be the first to hit that switch. Why? Because they just don't have to say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't give a fuck. That is the advantage of not giving a fuck. Not giving a fuck and having a dictatorship. Yeah. You know, with a singular goal. We don't have to have that. And also a country like, you the history of China. China has thrived economically for 4,000 years. [1:33:06] Yeah, they kept it all together. China has a temple of the first emperor where they are afraid to enter it. Because apparently he booby-trapped it with so much mercury that you open the doors. It'll just flood everyone with mercury. He created some crazy booby-trapped and all the ground around that area tests very high in levels of mercury so they think some of it is like seeping into the ground so they think it's true so this is the guy that had the terracotta statues that are guarding the underwater no it was all underground it was all buried so he had this temple that's underground that is probably filled with who knows How many priceless artifacts and people are afraid to open it? This is the first emperor of China Google the first emperor of China's Well, they they can't open the temple [1:34:01] They want to go in and see it, but they're afraid it's booby trapped with mercury. Like how much fucking mercury would you have to have? And how long ago are we talking about? Like, uh, what year was it? January 94 BC. Wow. This is the booby trap legend, circa 94 BC. I don't know, I say his name, Sima Kwan, wrote a, it illuminated description of what lies beneath the 51.3 meter high mound in his famous work, the Shejit. In the ninth month, the first emperor was buried at Mount Lee. When the first emperor had just come to the throne, excavations and building work had taken place at Mount Lee. But when he unified all under heaven, convicts to the number of more than 700,000 were sent there from all over the empire. They dug through the three springs and poured down molten bronze to make the outer coffin and replicates of palaces, pavilions, all the various officials and wonderful vessels, [1:35:03] and other rare objects were brought up to the tomb which was then filled with them. Craftsmen were ordered to make crossbows and arrows which would operate automatically so that anyone who approached what had been excavated was immediately shot. Quick silver, mercury, was used to represent the various waterways, the Yang Z and yellow rivers and the Great Sea being made by some mechanisms to flow into each other and above were arranged that heavenly constellations and below was the layout of the land. Candles were made out of whale fat, alternative literal translations, mermaid ointment, wow, or man fish oil. What the fuck does that mean? Human oil probably, from burned people's fat, for it was reckoned that it would be a long time before they were extinguished. The second generation said, it would not be right that any of the previous emphorous concubines should emerge from this place unless she has a son. They were all ordered to accompany him to death and those who died were extremely numerous. [1:36:03] After the burl had taken place, someone mentioned the fact that the workers in craftsmen who constructed the mechan mechanical devices would know about all the buried treasures and the importance of the treasures would immediately be disclosed consequently when the great occasion was finished and after the treasures had been hidden away the main entrance way to the tomb was shut off and the outer gates lowered so that all the workers in Crabson who had buried the treasure were shut in. And there were none who came out again. And the vegetation and trees were planted to make it look like a hill. So they killed 700,000 workers? Is that what they're saying? That's the best group of conspicuous people. Holy. Thus we find the source of the legends we know today. But Seema Kwan wrote in his description, 123 years after the death of Shi Huang. Could his fantasy-like account of the mermaid ointment probably will oil flowing rivers of mercury, 700,000 laborers, crossbow booby traps, and buried alive workers be credible. Or is he just writing for effect? [1:37:01] Can we trust the descriptions? Jesus. Says that one of the camps the store in celebrates the trustworthiness of SEMA Kwan by emphasizing the extreme care which SEMA Kwan gathered and weighed available evidence and an attempt to convey an objective portrait of the Chinese past. Other camps are more skeptical stressing they were intensely personal motivations that prompted SEMA Kwan's. Is that how I say it? Am I saying it right?emee Kwan's. Is that how he said it? Am I saying it right? Seema Kwan. Kwan, decision to complete masterwork of history begun by his father. The more suspicious camp accuses Kwan of exaggerating his accounts by being too much of a lyrical romanticist, too religious to convey, an accurate depiction of history. But either way, they found Mercury all around that area and they still have not opened it. They're still worried. And this is like thousands of years later. Has China ever been fractured? Like in the way that Europe is fractured, you know, you've had, you've had, or even the Roman Empire had this large swath [1:38:03] of land and control and then it's been broken up. China seems like this massive landmass with all these people for a very long period of time. Well, I think, how do you maintain that? That's the way they do it. I mean, it's kind of impressive. It's unbelievably impressive. It's very impressive. It's very impressive that they've been around for 4,000 years, and that they've done this. And what is maintaining that power? But what is it just fear? Is it religion? Is it fear? I don't think they're the very religious, right? No, well, at least now they're not. Well, they definitely shun other religions like the Uighurs. I think they shun all because it is a threat to the power. Right. It's about the state. But to maintain that identity, to maintain a cultural identity for four thousand years. Uh-huh. Wow. How do you do that? You do it by playing four DHS, that's for sure. [1:39:01] Yeah. They're definitely doing that. I mean, the involvement in our education institutions, buying up American farmland. What do you think about that? Like, they're clearly playing a different game. Oh, yeah. They're playing an influence- Much more sophisticated game. Yeah, and they're using, I think, capitalism against us. And I think that's something that we got to be a little bit more aware of. Like, capital is this amazing system, but it's amazing when you're the richest country. When there are other countries with wealth, they can start buying things and they can start implementing their influence when they hold the carrot, right? Like, that's the scary thing. You can change culture without even telling people to change. When you know that China buys 10 movies and they have to be made with these specifications, right? Hollywood will start making movies according to those specifications because they want to make the money. Yeah. Right? But now China is influencing our culture and the movies that disseminate America on the hope that China will buy them. They don't all get bought. No. [1:40:01] But the movies are different. Yeah. How else can they influence like that? If you hold the fucking carrot, you could put anything you want out there. Yes. And they hold, they don't hold all the carrots, but they can partially hold it. It is a dangerous thing. You have to be concerned with how much foreign investment comes into your country. Oh, we just let other countries who are enemies by land. Yeah, that is peculiar. Not just that. We let them sell us routers, sell us networking equipment because it's cheaper. I thought we stopped that. Well, they still have a lot. I thought that was the whole Huawei thing. That was the only Huawei. That was the only Huawei. But if you look at like Mike Baker laid this out to me. Yeah. All of the cell towers and all the stuff that's around like military bases. A lot of the equipment has been provided by China. I can't fathom it. I can't fathom it. I can't fathom that our military would be purchasing technological equipment from the same military that made Rachel Levine the first female admiral. [1:41:01] You don't think? You know they could fuck that out up to the same military that made that fucking backstealer that ball headed backstealer who is stealing shit that was a person in charge of nuclear waste disposal and are they an expert in any way oh no they're an expert in wearing women's shoes. That's it. That's all you have to be. So you have to be, just gotta check the right box. We're in the DEI program now, bro. And all out of that is also funded by China. A lot of our industry as well. And they, they, look, Yuri Besmanov talked about this in the country. Yeah, pride does seem like it said in all time low. It's a really disappointing thing. Yeah, but I feel like it's like waves. Like things go back and forth. Yeah, pendulum ships 100% but [1:42:01] it is one of those things where it's over corrections and its recorrect are the corrections. I could think that's the defund the police thing too. That's the over correction. Right? And then the no cash bail. That's the over correction. Yeah. And the people, oh my god, look at all this chaos and crime. We gotta shift back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And hopefully they do and hopefully they figure that out. But what about pride? and still pride. How do we make people proud to be part of the American experience? It's not to say that all of us are not. There's definitely a lot that are. But how do we re instill that? I think one of the things is a simplistic answer, but one of the things is American manufacturing. An American made things. Yeah, what are we making? And having people support American made companies and give people real jobs, just because something costs less, because it's made in a country where people get paid nothing. Doesn't mean you should buy that. And if you could buy something that maybe costs more, but it gives people a living wage and healthcare and they have families and they could buy a house, that's what you should be buying. [1:43:01] Why are you proud to be American? It's a great fucking place. Yeah it is, it's the best. It's the cultural center point of the whole planet. It's the only place you can live all 12 months. Really? Where else would you live for 12 months? Name another country. Bali? Fuck outta here. You can go rainy season and Bali walking around and fucking rainbow sandals like Berkreicher. How much is the rain? You're outta your mind. Is it raining a lot? In Bali? Yeah. Yeah, you don't get that green without the rain. Right. So you get like typhoons and shit. Yeah, you're not living there. You don't want a tropical storm, son. You don't want it? You don't want a tropical storm. Especially without infrastructure. That's true. That's the thing about America, you can live... November to April, the wet season. Yeah, fuck that. Often called the rainy season or monsoon season. Yeah, we're not doing it. Due to heavy storms and downpours. We're not doing it. Okay. What I'm trying to say is like, there isn't another country that you can live all 12 months of the year. You go to Abu Dhabi, there's no fucking way. There's no fucking way that the Saudis would come to LA [1:44:06] for relief. Of course, they could've learned it. Who goes to fucking London? Yeah. For weather. Right. So it's like, this is the only one. I genuinely, I cannot think of another one. 12 months. The whole country, yeah. And if you look. around here. Yeah, you can live true If you have the money you can live in New York for these months you go to Florida you go to whatever there's an option Right, you know what I mean? That's a good point. You can't live anywhere else, but I that's not the pride thing for me I think I think the pride thing is like I Truly believe you can be the best version of yourself here And I think any one anybody else in the world can be the best, most successful version of themselves here. And that's why I'm proud to be American. Well, you can reach your full potential in this country. It's a fun place. Hey, there's a lot of fun places. Yeah. But can you reach your full potential in these other places? They took fucking Jack Ma and they brought him into a basement. Yep. When he got too powerful in China. He talked a little shit. [1:45:06] He thought he was bigger than the system. So they shut it down. They saw what was happening. Our tech billionaires here and they're like, hey, we're not going to let that fucking shit happen here. You're going to the basement. Here, I'm not saying Joe Rogan isn't going to be successful no matter where he goes, but you're gonna have fucking issues if you're in China coming and having this much influence and a podcast and do it, you're gonna have a talk. Yeah. You're gonna have some basement talks. Yeah. But in this fucking country, you can be the greatest version of yourself. And I don't know if there's another country that offers that opportunity. And more importantly, anyone that's trying to stop that is on American. If you're trying to sense their people's speech, yeah, if you're trying to stifle people's growth, because they don't know. And Americans will fight for you because it happens. This is the hit piece thing. When we see the hit piece, it tears that like our American identity. Even if you don't admit you are, there's a part of you that's going, whoa, whoa, this person's trying to be great. And we're all here because we're trying to be great or our family came here to be great. And this one's trying to be great and the world is trying to stop that. [1:46:08] Fuck them. It's some people are trying to stop that. Some people are trying to stop that. But we're still, we have animosity for those people that are trying to stop greatness because it is a core tenet here. Yes. It's you can be great. An individual can be great here. Yeah. And I think that's a really special thing that we kind of lose sight of. But it is what makes me proud. Maybe it's because my mom's not from here and she came here and she felt like she had all this opportunity and it was like, you can't tell my mom that's not the greatest country in the world. So I kind of like, I grew up with that. And there, of course, there's no perfect solution. Like universal basic income isn't the perfect solution. Well fair is not the perfect solution. There's no perfect solution to fix all that ails us. But at least here, you can go from the bottom to the top. You can go for it. Yeah. [1:47:00] You can really go for it and you're not like, stop on the bottom now. Facts and some places like, you might have the aptitude to go from the bottom of the top, but the culture will be oppressive. And I'm not even talking about third world, I'm not talking about, I'm talking about there are places where there's a system where like, hey, you're working class, how dare you try to not be working class. Yeah, that's what my friends in England. I'm on some Scotland, that's what it was. It's like how dare you try to be great. And here it's like, wait, you're not trying to be great. Right. Why aren't you trying to be great? You have the opportunity to be great. Right. And when we see greatness, we support it. Yeah. That's not to say that we don't have jealousy and animosity, but there still is a version of it here excited by that person's greatness. If you're a winner. If you, if- But then you're also gonna have a bunch of people that are just happy when you fall. That's human, yeah. That is human's, we have it too. Yeah. But there's not a cultural oppression that exists for greatness. Exactly. The place is built to go to the top. Yep. And it makes me proud. For me, I really like, I wish more people would grab onto that idea. And it's all of us, too. [1:48:06] That's what's so crazy about the idea that the American flag, the symbol, the American flag, is offensive. It's the best flag. It's, but it's so crazy that that's all of us. That's even the good. The stuff that you think is good about America. Even if you like the hardcore, the most hard, far left hippie, fucking anarchist, like, you are a part of America. Your ideas are America as well. That flag is yours too. And we kind of need them. We need that back and forth. We need that pendulum to sweat. We do need balance. Because yeah, you see what happens when there's just people existing in that echo. You saw what happens in fucking San Francisco or even LA. You see like an idea permeates and then a very lax law or a lack of enforcement of that law create a culture that people are now not happy with. If you ask the average person in LA or San Francisco, they're like, maybe we need some rules now. I think rules would be okay. We could punish some crimes. It's okay. Yeah. When you exist in the echo chamber, you're fighting for different sides of liberalism. [1:49:06] You don't have that balance where these people are yelling at these people and we kind of end up in here. Right. And that's healthy. That little bagging for this healthy. Right. And yeah, I don't know. I just, I get stoked off the American experience. But it does make me sad when I feel like everybody's upset about the right things it sucks the left thing It's like everybody just thinks it sucks and it's like I don't know man Well, I just think there's a lot of problems that exist today that weren't Problems decades ago for example particularly social issues with the The impact of social media has thrown this country into a fucking turmoil What do you mean? It's it's a force that we didn't anticipate the amount of echo chambers that exist. The amount of people that gather up together in these groups and they have full confirmation bias. They only believe one side. They disregard all evidence from the other side. [1:50:00] They dig their heels in. They wanna be on the right side of history. They wanna win. If Donald Trump wins, the threat to democracy, Joe Biden's or criminally's a threat to democracy, our whole life is at stake with this election. If you're on the wrong side, you've been co-opted by the bad people. There's just so much tension that exists today where you can't have a difference of opinion with your neighbors. Where you used to be, if your neighbors are a publicant and you're a Democrat, nobody gave a shit. Like what's up Bob? Maybe who get annoying, you want to talk to you about fucking watergate or something like that? I gotta go, bro. I gotta go. But it wasn't, it wasn't an anti-American. It wasn't his devices. He wasn't the main problem in the world. Yeah, yeah. You know, he wasn't a Nazi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just wanted to hold on to his money. Exactly. He just thought you were a little bit of a pussy. Yeah. And you just thought he was maybe a little racist. Yeah. But you still barbecued. Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't that crazy. He said, hi, you waved to each other when you someone who's evil? Yeah. What does that make you it's crazy? [1:51:06] And then also like people dig their heels in put fucking political signs on their front lawn My mom used to do that Florida What's Hillary Clinton signs in her front lawn the people kept stealing them like mom take those down wait Like what type of signs I'm trying like Larus your mom Like what type of signs I'm trying to like kill me. I'm never president. Oh, hilarious. Your mom. Yeah. The apple falls far from the tree. Yeah, she and then she would say keep taking my signs. Like mom, don't put those. It's really you. You're living in Florida. It's just you. You're just sending people to take the signs. She was living in Florida. Like what do you expect? It's a red state. So was she a big liberal? Oh, my mom's a huge liberal. Really? Yeah. Did she acknowledge that they were hippies? When I was a kid, we lived in San Francisco during the height of the anti-war movement. Oh, really? Yeah, I grew up, when I was seven years old, we moved to San Francisco. Do you remember this? Yeah, and is this kind of like informed your politics? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we lived in a gay neighborhood It was like all these hippies and gay guys would whistle at my stepdown. No way. Yeah, man. It was funny [1:52:11] So you're like I need to learn martial arts. No, it wasn't dangerous guys are coming. It wasn't dangerous I mean there was some crime you know I got like my basketball stolen once but it wasn't bad. It was different time It was was a lot of peace, peace and love was real back then. The hippie movement was a real thing. And in, you know, he felt it was pure. Yeah, it was, they were nice people, man. I didn't know, I didn't even know what the N word meant until I moved to Florida. I'd never heard it. I never heard it. I never heard it in San Francisco. Nobody leaves me. I Didn't hear it. Nobody said it. Wow. There was it was so integrated It was like everybody was like Asian and black and white and it was just like it was the hippie movement was real man It permeated the city in a kind way. There were nice people. Yeah, it was a different time [1:53:04] And it was also when I was living there was when the Vietnam War ended and I remember very city in a kind way. There were nice people. It was a different time. And it was also when I was living there was when the Vietnam War ended. And I remember very clearly thinking to myself as like I guess I was 10 or something. Yeah. Oh boy. You felt released as a kid? Because now they won't be war anymore. They figured out the war was bad. Because while Vietnam was going on, everybody knew it was a crazy war, it didn't make any sense, there was all these protests, and then there was like Kent State, where they shot the fucking protesters, the National Guard came in, shot the protesters. So there was this craziness, this turmoil in this country, that didn't exist in, it was a way that it's... Wait a minute, this is interesting. More than now, you felt? I taught to say, because I was a kid, you know, but it was definitely a thing where there were drafting people to go and fight in this war. And that was part of it. It was the conscription that they were forcing you to go die in war. [1:54:00] And we knew people that had gotten forced to go over there. And you know, new people that had died over there. It was weird. It was a weird fear that they could force you to go to war. And so when that was over, there was this relief. Like, okay, good, we figured that out. And then, you know, fucking 10 years later, I was hanging out with my roommate. We were watching Operation Desert Storm kickoff on TV like this. This is crazy. Here we go again. Here we go man. It was me and my buddy Jimmy Dittilio. We're sitting in our house and we're watching this. We're living together in Maulden, Massachusetts. And we're watching this fucking TV while the bro, we're at war, holy shit. We're watching the tracer missiles, you know, the trace around I know it doesn't the way you could see the bullet Like they'll lit up as they're flying through the air and they shoot them out of helicopters and shit like and I you know Operation desert storm the the first war was like a lot it was like the first word was like Televised yeah, like you could you could watch shit get blown up. Yeah [1:55:02] You know and I can't believe it. I was like, God damn it. We're doing it again. And this was like, you know, it was, I guess the 90s, right? When was the Iraq war? What was the first Iraq war? Bush. When they pulled out. Bush is what is first Bush? 92. So they pulled out, we only lost like a small number of troops, Gulf War, 90 to 91. So it was quick and Bill Hicks had the great bit about it. He goes, it's only a war when two armies are fighting. And he goes, they say Bill, they say the Iraq wars, the fifth largest army goes, yeah, but after the first true There's a big drop off. He goes to salvation armies number three It's a great bit, but it's true Let me find a way to justify it. You know, and guys were just practicing. They were just doing stuff [1:56:04] I remember he had that bit like pull up G12? What does G12 do? What's fun to out? And they're just like going through the weapons catalog. Like pull that one up, shoot it. Oh shit, what does G13 do? And that was a Hicks bit. Yeah. Fuck. Bro, and that one confused the shit out of everybody because we thought war was easy. Without bro, we'd just go over there and fuck everybody up real quick. Why do we think war was easy? Oh, because they did it. This thing afterwards, we thought war was easy. War was so easy for us. The first time war. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas Vietnam was this like difficult, long dreaded battle. Didn't make any sense either. This one was more like, oh, there's a desktop. We got to get him out. Look how quick we could do it. He invaded Kuwait. Look how quick we take care of business. This is how, and we're like, God damn, America's pretty bad ass. So we got super cocky. It was like Mike Tyson before he fought Buster Douglas. We're like, no. [1:57:06] What? He lost no way. Yeah. Yeah. And so then the second Iraq work, and then you got real casualties. And the invasion of Afghanistan, and it's going on forever and ever and ever. And it doesn't make any sense. You realize,, God, this is a never ending war. This is almost like Vietnam. This is crazy. Yeah. It is a horrible man. I mean, that's the most horrible thing that people do. And it's the one thing that we don't think people will ever stop doing. Which is a war. If you ask people, do you think in 10 years there'll be no war? No way. No way. It's never been a time. There's never been a time while we've been alive with our tribal instincts that we haven't decided to control someone's resources or justify an invasion or come up with some reason why someone's wronged us and blow up pipelines and- We did blow it up, huh? I don't think they did it. [1:58:01] Why would they do it? Why would they cut off their supply of gas to Europe and miss out on all that money? So CIA does it or? I don't know. I don't. I mean, I would be just talking completely out of my ass, but Seymour Hersh said the CIA did it. Wow. And he's a very, very well respected journalist. I mean, he's about top of the food chain. He's a legit journalist. But what does he know? And what does he, I mean, if you weren't there, how much of it is disinformation? How much can get shuffled down even to you as a journalist that's just straight bullshit? They're sophisticated, man. I mean, these people that are running, you know, you know, you would have what you call the deep state, the intelligence agencies. You know, there's people that want to disband all of them, like the Vivek Ramaswamy guys. I think you need them, because I think the world operates in a very clandestine way. There's other countries have agencies that are doing the same thing the CIA does. If we don't have a better one, that's not good. If you don't have an army, if you don't need an army, [1:59:00] we have flowers like you need a fucking army. Yeah, you want to keep peace you need an army Yeah, you want to keep an eye on all the terrorist organizations in the world that are planning on blowing up America Yeah, you need to see IA you fucking need them you need all of them. You need to NSA need all of them. Yeah, you need those people But in those people you're going to get cowboys you're gonna get people that Say you know, I know how we can fund the Contrares versus the Sandinistas. Sell drugs. Yeah. Let's just move some crack through LA. We can make millions of dollars. No one knows. So you get freeway, Ricky Ross. You bring him in. He's making untold amounts of money and he's doing it for the government. The fucking government. And that's why he's not getting arrested. And he doesn't even know, and he doesn't even figure it out until he goes to jail. That crazy. Because he doesn't even know how to read until he goes to jail. But that is interesting. A lot of these actors don't even know that they're involved. No, it's way less involved. Exactly. Then we believe it is. There's so many layers to it, and it must be so fun to be the dude who is like, to leave. I was the head of the Pentagon. What a great job. Show up every day. You're fucking Mercedes Benz AMG. [2:00:07] You hop out with your cuff links. Like, let's fucking just get you in rollin' the rope. Woo! Let's go, baby. Let's go. You're on Adderall and you're fucking hopped up. Having a good time. Get work done. You're a great asset to the company. You know, I love this company. And I know this company loves you. And you're fucking all-in buddy at the expense of your marriage, your family, your friends, your line to everybody around you because you can't tell them what you're doing. Nobody can know because they're fucking signal. Bitch, you think that thinks secure? No way. No way. They made it. I bet they did. Yeah, because you get to a certain point with success in this country where you have to be integrated into the government Oh, I don't know. Google's integrated Facebook is integrated. They have to be I think the fucking FBI was in Twitter Hey, we're getting pressure from of our constituents. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're getting pressure from this organization that gives us a immense amounts of money and we'd like you to put the fucking kebrew? On that laptop store. That's a be a problem. [2:01:05] Was the laptop story or whether it's the COVID misinformation, whatever it is. So how do you maintain your sovereignty? That's a good question. How do you do it? You. Me personally. I don't know. We'll come back. Let's talk about that. Let's do it. We're back. Okay. We're back. Okay, how do you maintain your sovereignty? How do you, you are the most influential person on the planet, government agencies would love to have a hold of you, I imagine. How do you make sure that you create distance between you and them so you can put out the content you wanna do? I haven't even thought about it. But you know that they must try. Yeah, but I mean, like, first of all, I'm not a valid source of information, but I can get you valid sources of information. Meaning that I'm not an expert in anything, other than like martial arts, and I can give you some information about some things, comedy, I can talk to you about Santa Fe. I think you're being humble, but. No, but it'll be an honest. I'm not a legitimate expert at anything, [2:02:07] but I can bring experts on and I can have honest conversations with them. And as a human being that is in this world, it is imperative that we have access to all sorts of information, even information that might not be correct. Yes. You gotta know why the person thinks the way of information, even information that might not be correct. Yes. You got to know why the person thinks the way they think, even if I disagree with them. Well, why do you think that? Yeah. Like, what, what, how does it work in your head? Have you considered this? I'll steal man their position. Yeah. I try to find out. And if you're silencing people that are from Stanford and Harvard, like they did during COVID actual experts. You're doing a disservice to human beings, including you and your family. Because if you're lying or allowing people to lie about medication or about the adverse effects of medication, that is not just you. [2:03:00] That's everyone that you know that's also gonna take that medication upon your admission or your recommendation You're doing a disservice to everyone to the whole The person is telling the truth is doing a service to everyone. Yeah, the whole So how do we parcel out the truth? You got to listen to everybody and then you make that decision It takes time look how long it took for from COVID to figure out what was going on Yeah, you remember the early videos you You will not get it. The virus stops with you. Yeah. If you take this vaccine, now it's like you will not die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but that's not really worth going to die, but you probably won't die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You won't get hospitalized. Well, know what the percentage of people, even in the early days got hospitalized from COVID? Five percent. Well, five percent. Which is a lot for 300 million people. A lot. It's a lot. But still, to not even retract publicly, some of the statements made and to vilify the people that were putting out that other information is a very dangerous situation. Well, the CDC had to take down all of their quote, was it the FDA or the CDC, the FDA? [2:04:05] The FDA had to take down all of their tweets about COVID with in reference to Ivermectin. Like, you're not a horse y'all, stop it. You remember that? Yeah. Was that the CDC? I don't know. Fine, who made that? You're not a horse y'all. Yeah. That was one of them. And this is about a medication that had been prescribed billions of times to human beings. The FDA, you're not a horse, you're not a cow. Seriously, y'all, you're not a horse, you're not a cow. Seriously y'all, stop it. Why you should not use, go back? Why you should not use Ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19 from FDA Just just like that is just propaganda just pull on propaganda Yeah, that's like saying penicillin is veterinary medicine because they do use it in a veterinary applications Yeah, yeah, but it's for humans to you fucking idiot Yeah, and has it been used for humans has it saved lives? [2:05:01] Yes has Ivermectin won the fucking Nobel Prize? Yeah, so it's a insulin yes, yeah, yeah Humans has a save lives. Yes. Has Ivermectin won the fucking Nobel Prize? Yes. So it's a human medication that has one of the safest profiles of any medication known. And now they had to take down, pull the article that they had to take all that down. So they had to delete 140 social media posts that were disparaging ivermectin I didn't even know this they just lost in court yep your court has been like ringing the bell spacer FDA agrees to delete your not a horse ivermectin tweet the FBI did not admit to wrongdoing under the terms of the settlement oh that's great they don't have to admit they were wrong because they were wrong yeah they don't have to admit it we know you're wrong great you don't have to admit it right they were wrong because they were wrong. They don't have to do that. We know you're wrong. Great, you don't have to admit it. Go ahead. The agency said in a settlement detailed in the Thursday court filing and the US District Court for the Southern District of Texas does not mean it changes position that no data shows Ivermectin to be an effective co-atreement. The agency is choosing to resolve this lawsuit [2:06:00] rather than continuing to litigate over statements that are between two nearly four years old. Oh, we said those four years ago, guys. The FDA said an email statement, the agency has not authorized or approved Ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19. But doctors have always been allowed to use off-label medications, especially when shown to be effective. And there's a ton of randomized controlled trials that shows Ivermectin to be effective. And there's a ton of randomized controlled trials that shows Ivermectin to be effective for the treatment of COVID-19. Including in entire Uttar Pradesh, in India, where they all saw they used it, they had an incredible result. Like people have used it, they used it. But when I used it, and I had no fucking idea what can of worms I was open enough. They made you look like this one. They changed my color. They changed the color of my face. CNN was all in, but to their own detriment. And now people lost faith in CNN. And that the COVID thing to them was one of the worst experience [2:07:01] as terms of public trust. Yeah, well I think public trust is an all-time low in general. Yes. And that's their bed that they made. So that's the question is, how do you start believing again? Because there is an importance in believing and trusting the systems that we have. It is important that we trust the medical field, right? Yes. Maybe not blindly, and maybe we should have more information. But it is important when we go into that. Like I was just telling you, like with my daughter, I was like, okay, I, you know, it's time to get vaccines and I freaked out. I genuinely, I freaked out. Yeah. I told you, I was scared. And I didn't do enough research. And I'm in that room. And I'm like, I think I need the weekend. And, and yes, it all of my friends that even are doctors who had no questions about the vaccines before, at all, before COVID, they recommended all of them. Now, a lot of them are changing their tune. So, they have more skepticism based on the information that came out about the COVID vaccine or vaccines in general. [2:08:00] First of all, just the propaganda campaign behind the COVID vaccines. So once they saw this, total denial of any adverse effects, even though they personally knew people who had strokes, heart attacks, died, the died suddenly thing. The fact that athletes were dropping like flies, the athletes thing was not scary because these are the people that are in the back of the players having heart attacks, dropping dead, all of them vaccinated. When you're seeing these people just drop dead. Reporters on TV just fainting, passing out. People I know personally, they got the shot that blacked out quite a few. One of them, two guys I know that have fucking pacemakers now. One of them is in his 30s, one of them is in his 40s. As a fucking pacemaker. And you should at least have that information before you make that decision. Well, you should know that that information exists. And instead, they're trying to hide it. And they're trying to gaslight you about it. And then there's the thing about all cause mortality. The increase in all cause mortality is, there's a jump in all cause mortality to the administration of the vaccines. [2:09:00] All cause mortality is people that die from everything. Die from heart attack, stroke, cancer. All cause mortality went up in some groups as much as 40%. These are the control groups that have taken the vaccine. Right, well, this is just for COVID. Well, people, just in general, more people are dying. The percentage of all cause mortality is in certain groups up significantly. I think in England, they did a study that said it was up 20% across the board. In some groups, like 18 to 49, in some groups, it was up, like as high as 40%. That means that 40% more people are dying from cancer, heart attacks, strokes, everything than we're before. After this event. Everything. Including people that probably would have died anyway. Right. But 40% more in some groups are dying. And there are other variables that exist as well. Sure, there's a weird time. Lack of medical attention during COVID, people didn't see their doctors, maybe there was things that alcoholism, people drank more, there's a lot of factors. But one of those factors might be this experimental medication. [2:10:01] The big medication to ourselves, Yeah, and the resistance against that being possible is crazy. Yeah, and it's because people First of all they advocated for it. They told you to get it They probably chastised people and scolded people that didn't get it. Yeah, so now that now they have this opinion that they have Started with and they stuck with and they want to be correct They don't want to back. They don't want to back. It takes a very courageous person to say I'm fucking wrong. I was not only was I wrong, but I probably fucked people over. And a lot of people might have been adversely affected. That's your career, your life, your identity. Yes, yes. Especially if you're an intellectual. That builds your entire identity around being right. Yes, and there's massive pressure from all these institutions that have always been unquestionable in the past, like the FDA or the CDC. It's like a botched surgery. If you go for plastic surgery and somebody fucks it up, you're not going back to that doctor. So they're terrified. So they have to go, no, we were right, 100% right, trust me, I want to continue doing this. Okay, so the skepticism starts there and then it starts to bleed into all vaccines. Exactly. And that's where it is with some friends of mine that are physicians. And then you read what Robert Kennedy says. [2:11:06] And Robert Kennedy is the guy that gets put in the Cooke category. And I had to admit that to him when I had him on the podcast. I had an opinion of you that was based on propaganda. I thought you were this wacky conspiracy theorist guy, your nuts, you're the guy that's telling you like fucking take silver iodine, you're gonna never get sick again. You know what I mean? Like you put him in this category of like holistic medicine guys or whatever. That's what's not even a bad thing. But you put him in this naturopath category, cookie category, conspiracy theorist, tinfoil hat, and then I read his book. I read the real Anthony Fauci and you read that book and you're like, okay, this is not true. Why isn't he getting sued? And it seems like this is the exact same playlist that they ran during the age crisis. And that's the Dallas Buyers Club. The Dallas Buyers Club is all about that. It's all about Anthony Fauci. It's all about restricting medication to people that have HIV and forcing them to take AZT, which was killing everybody. [2:12:06] AZT kills people. It was a chemotherapy medication they stopped using because it kills people quicker than cancer. People that were asymptomatic from HIV were put on AZT and they were dead within six months. It's a chemotherapy medication you're supposed to stay on. No chemotherapy medication you stay on indefinitely. You take them for a course because it's damaging because it's killing the cancer, but it's also killing you. And then it kills the cancer and you recover and then the cancer is gone and that's how chemotherapy works. When it works. But they were using it for cancer anyway. Ooh, read the book. Kind of like that. They experimented with vaccines for HIV on foster kids in New York. And a bunch of them died. It's all in the book. And if it's not true, why didn't they sue his ass? Why isn't he getting sued? Why aren't there articles written pointing out all the things that are absolutely wrong [2:13:01] with what he's saying about the HIV crisis? So your position is fair skepticism about the vaccines and let's get some more studies and information out there and then we can make our own decisions based on that. Right. What is the, what's the cause of the uptick in chronic illness, autism, all these different things? What is it? Are there environmental factors? Is it contamination, is it food, is it pollution, what is it? What is it? What is it? And could it be that too? Could it be these vaccines? Is it possible that these people that tell these stories about having perfectly healthy children and then them getting vaccinated and then also in the kid like going non-responsive? Yeah. What that seems like, it's possible. Right. That there's a correlation there. If there's a cause, and then there's an effect. If there is an action, and then there's an effect. Let's see if there's a connection here. If there's a thing that you do, and all these parents, you could say a bunch of them, it was just a coincidental that the kids started showing it after the medication was administered, and maybe that's true. [2:14:06] Maybe that's true. But how do we know if that's not even considered a timing thing to- I think there's a taboo subject. Isn't there like a timing thing where like kids don't show those symptoms until one, and that is when you vaccinate them or something. So there are some- There's correlations. Correlational issues here. Doesn't mean Of course not, but let's study it. Let's fucking look at it. Every even considered that injecting kids with chemicals, including mercury and aluminum that you're doing this, that this might have a negative effect on some kids, and that maybe the corresponding uptick and these chronic illnesses and allergies and diseases and autism, maybe? Maybe? What was the allergy thing? Can't even say anything. Aluminum. That's right, because? What was the allergy thing? You can't even say anything. What was the aluminum? That's right, because every one of the vaccines has a little aluminum in it. Well, the way it is, you have an inert form of the virus, and then you have this irritant. You have this thing that fucks with your body, and your body goes, what is this? The aluminum's there. Oh, there's a virus in here, a dead virus. I'll create the antibodies. And it works. Yeah. [2:15:05] It does work, but does it also have negative effects? And is it a volume thing? Is it the amount of vaccines you kid the kid altogether? Yes. You know, they're trying to give your kid like HPV vaccine right from birth. Yeah. Like when did they start giving them hepatitis B? That's when that's when birth. 12 hours in, they came into the room and they're like, have a tight as big. Yo! And I literally, and I was like, what is it? Cause I didn't know what it was. And they're like, it's a disease that could kill your kid. And I was like, well, we should probably give it to her. And then I'm like, how do you even get it? And they're like, it's a sexually transmitted. Yeah. Yeah. She's this Christ. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I understand. So now there's a skepticism people see right now just having this conversation even talking about it the way we've talked about it so carefully. Yeah, you'll be labeled an anti-vaxxer. So Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan flowed around anti-vaxx conspiracy theories. Well, we're not we're not conspiracizing right now, right? Nope. We're just literally saying maybe it's okay to do the research without shame. [2:16:07] Well, how is it not possible to talk about it without being labeled a cook if this is a thing if you're injecting kids with with chemicals. Yeah, and we know that medications have adverse effects even simple medications. Some people have horrible effects from all kinds of stuff. Yeah. There's people that can't take, like, air rogers couldn't take the mRNA vaccines because there's an ingredient in them that he's deathly allergic to. Of course, too, yeah. So there's a, so an interesting thing is I asked the doctor and she was actually great. The doctor was really great. Like her mom was kind of anti-vaccine. She's like, so if bad if we scheduled them out, delayed them, I think is what they said. And so you have less viral load at one time. She said something interesting. She goes, listen, every vaccine has a little bit of preservative in it, right? You need to have a little bit in order to keep that inert disease alive or whatever. She goes, so the question you have to ask now is, okay, maybe the preservative isn't good to put in your kid, [2:17:06] and now you're putting more of it in because you're doing more vaccines over a longer period of time. So this is a variable I didn't even fucking think of. I'm trying to lower the viral load that my eight week old baby has inside her, but now I'm increasing the preservative load that the baby has, and I don't know the effects of that. And that's why I had to walk out. And the thing is, the medical institutions have been captured by pharmaceutical drug companies. They're captured. I wanna go on that. I wanna go on that. I wanna go on that. I mean, it's not as simple as a doctor is basing it all on his education and his understanding of this particular situation and the objective science of all of it. No, there's a narrative. There's a narrative that gets distributed. That was the narrative during COVID. You must get vaccinated. They were telling people to get vaccinated right after they got over COVID. It doesn't even make sense. It's completely unscientific. And they make it restrictive. [2:18:01] Like for example, my wife in order for her to go to school had to get the booster. Like she was getting her MBA and she had to. Yeah. So and the same thing with kids. Like if you want to put your kid in like a school they have to have them all. Yeah. You want to put it in a daycare. If you want to travel. If you want to fly certain jobs. So you see you start to feel the pressure and the outside pressure makes you go, okay, I'm being forced into this decision, I don't really have my freedom. You say I have my freedom, but I want my kid to get educated. I want my kid to be able to go see their grandparents and my kid to do these things. And yeah, you do feel a social pressure. You don't wanna be able to fucking anti-vax weirdo, but at the same time, it was hard as hell for my wife and I to get pregnant, so I'm really protective over this innocent little baby, and I don't wanna be responsible for giving them something that could fuck them up, I don't know how I look myself. I'm really really, clearly. Do you remember when Jenny McCarthy was saying that vaccine caused her son to be autistic and she was just attacked mercilessly? I don't remember, but- Essentially it was like kind of the end of her ever being taken seriously. It end of her career. Janie McCarthy was huge. Bit of one TV day. Is that remember? MTV day. [2:19:05] Shed her own sitcom. Like there's, Janie McCarthy was doing a lot of different things. And you don't hear about her at all. I think Robert De Niro even tried to. TV show. She had TV show recently. She's been on a show. What is it? A mask singer, whatever. She's judging that. But for a long time she was like persona non grata. What is the mass singer? It's a it's a game show She's I'm so ignorant. I don't even know that show still in the air Anyway, it's one of these things where you're like she's one of the judges. Yeah, okay It's okay, but she if you know if the conversation comes up With vaccines like people roll their eyes like oh Jenny McCarthy So what's the way to science? But what's the way to- She's anti-science. But what's the way to like talk about and have the conversation? We're not anti-vaccine movement. We're pro-safe vaccine. Beautiful woman, huh? Oh yeah. It's 2015. Well, damn, bro. She could still be beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, Jamie's rude. Oh, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like while at the same time you don't want to put something in them that could have a negative effect. So you're just in this stalemate. [2:20:26] I know. And you don't know who to trust. And that's the problem with information right now. I don't think we know what to believe about anything. It's like, even the fucking the trans visibility day thing, like every headline was Biden declares Easter trans visibility day. Right. And I read it and I was like, there is no way. Like yeah, maybe there's a bunch of lefties there, there's a liberal elite, but there's no way that he would declare Easter this way. And I looked into it, Transvisibility Day started like 15 years ago, three years ago, they declared it. And then Easter obviously changes every year the date. It doesn't change the date. And then it ends up on the Sunday. But the headline is Biden declares Easter Transvisibility Day. [2:21:08] Once I read that and I know it's fake, now every headline is fake to me. And I think now I'm in this like, we're up and maybe we're on this one pooling. They're all using it because there's money to be made out of it. Click that. That click is valuable. And they will knowingly, like we were talking about that woman earlier with the with the human thing, there is money to be made out of that. Yes. And as long as there's money to be made from it, they will and they'll remove information that is incredibly important to the truth of the story. Yeah. I don't know how you solve that. But that thing, the Bible thing is kind of crazy because you know on this day of our Lord like they make this declaration and they know that it's gonna happen on Easter Sunday. They know this year or maybe last year, but when they started, they're not like, it's just more than 30%. It's just more than 30%. It's like Thanksgiving. It always happens on a Thursday. Exactly. Yeah. It's so exciting. It's so exciting. It's so exciting. It's so exciting. It's so wide. The range that Easter Sunday falls to. And they saw it coming this year and they're probably like, [2:22:07] fuck, if we move it, we hate the trans. If we don't move it, we hate the Christians. I think they saw it as an opportunity to, like, to the election cycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the loons on the left, they're all in with that stuff. Joe doesn't know what a tree in these. Well, he knows one of them got fired for stealing bags and the other one told the kids out. He's 80 years old. If you went to him and you were like, that's actually a man, he would go, there's no fucking way. He showed it to me. Bro, that administration is all in on that stuff in such a hardcore way that he got interviewed by Dylan Mulvaney. Yeah, and he thought that was a woman. And I've been a girl for 350 days. He's like, oh God bless you. He has bless you. That's what he said. Do you ever see that interview? Oh, it's wild. It's wild. But like, like, like, I think none of us really believe he's making the decisions, right? He's just there to get lambasted when all these things happen. Yeah. And then he forgets about it immediately afterwards. [2:23:05] Yeah, he doesn't know. He's a perfect guy to blame for things. Exactly. And that's why he's there. That's why you get the 80 year old dude. But the idea that they're going to keep running him is just bananas. I mean, you're going to keep him in there. they can switch them out for anybody. Who's that saying? Well, he would have to kick the baller. No, not come all out, but he would have to kick the bucket. And then they just slide Newsom in or somebody? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I think. You think that's what they're hoping for secretly? May. I think he's gotten to a May. No way. Yeah. And Newsom comes in. I think it just has health problems. And then the country understands and Newsom is gonna have his support fully and Kamala's gonna like, I don't want to be president. I'm cool with being vice president. So Newsom runs with Kamala? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I don't think they can pull Kamala. [2:24:01] I think as long as they keep her quiet, she's not. She's already the whatever reliability she is. She's already, she's so quiet. It's a, you know what I mean? Quite AOC, they get them to fall in line, huh? Yeah. They were loud, dancing, doing TikToks, and then they go, Hey, why don't you shut the fuck up over there? Yeah. And then they shut up. Also, don't you want to be president someday? They hang the fucking car. And she probably could. She could probably pull it off. So there's a lot of factors. And you're basically auditioning to be this spokesperson for the machine. Yes. And it worked for, he's the perfect example. Like think about it. If you're a part of the machine, you look at Biden's career and you're like, oh, it does work out. If I just play by the rules of the machine, they'll put me in position one day and I'll have the power. You don't even have to be good. You don't, you have to be there. Especially if you have a bad guy, well, that's one of the reasons why Hillary wanted Trump to run. Because I'll beat that guy. I can beat that guy. I can't beat somebody that's competent. leader. Yeah. Let's do this fucking maniac from the apprentice. Oh, she found out. I want to run him. Yeah. Yeah. Whoops. Yeah. Whoopsies. Yeah. [2:25:08] And now he's more popular than ever. I think it's easy for him. Actually, this time around. I don't know if it's real. What do you mean? Let's find out. Let's find out if they can rig it. Let's find out. Oh, yeah. They'll do everything they can. If the 2020 elections weren't rigged. Let's say they weren't. Yeah, yeah. You don't think there's something that can be done to move things one way or the other. There's certainly the manipulation of media. Of course. Now, you want to talk about election interference. So, forget about mail-in ballots, forget about all that stuff. Access to information will affect election. For example. When the government steps in and tells Twitter to censor the hundred Biden laptop story. That laptop story, let's say they went all in, they distributed to all the media, and then Fox News starts telling you all the evidence it shows that Biden was getting kickbacks and he's the big guy and 10% and all this money that went from billions [2:26:03] of millions of dollars in the brism on all these where's that money gone? Yeah, where what were the contracts? What's happening? How does he have this job teaching for a million dollars a year? We just even show up. What what is all of this game? Like what is this? That's the game and if that got into fence sitters people are like I don't know Trump's kind of gross, but Biden's old But I'm still gonna vote for Biden, because Trump's a bad guy. And then all I got, Biden's a bad guy. Trump might be the answer. You know what we were fine while he was in office? Let's run with him. Yeah. I mean, it's basically election interference because you're withholding information that would be detrimental to the person that you want to win. You're absolutely. Election interference. So anybody said there's no election interference. That is election interference. And then you have Google search results, which Robert Epstein and his research has shown that Google search results. I know right. Google search results have shown that you can manipulate [2:27:03] and with his research, you can manipulate the search results through the algorithm, and that will highlight negative stories about the people that you want to be negative, or positive stories about the people you want to be positive, and it can have an overall effect on how people vote. Because most people are surface information gatherers. They read headlines, they go, uh-huh, got it, and then they go with it. And the headline might be horseshit. You might get into the article. I mean, we've done that so many times. But wait a minute. This specifically says that that's not true. So what are they saying in the article? Yeah. Complaints of. Oh, it's a complaint of. But then you get into it, you go, oh, but's so many things like that that can just affect public opinion. And there's so many people that will just say things publicly and they think that this is a fact. They don't know the, like how many people you've seen got caught in that women only make 70 cents to a man's dollar. How many people you ever seen get caught? Nothing. How come women should be paid the same that men are paid? [2:28:02] No, arguing the streets, But they don't even understand what the argument is. The argument is men pick different jobs. They work longer hours. They don't take maternity leave. Overall, they make more money. This is why. They take jobs that are more dangerous. They take jobs that are higher risk. It also includes the most wealthy people, which are men. Yeah, so that's going to skew it in a dramatic fashion dramatic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The top billionaires They're all manic except for chicks that got divorced. Yeah That is the best way to get rich if you want to be a female billionaire Chopped in half but the thing is like female billionaires don't like that label that they got it So they become philanthropists. Oh, that's why a basil is white is a philanthropist billionaire Billionaire philanthropist. But Kenzie Basil. Where's she at that money? Yeah. Just being awesome. Billionaire. Just being amazing. Yeah. No, she was married to a psycho. Yeah. Psycho paid all the money. And now she's distributing it to left wing causes and all the right wing guys are complaining. Yeah. And Elon Matt. Well, I was saying something about her distributing these rich divorces, distributing [2:29:06] to the downfall of democracy. Yeah. So he's been going in. He goes in, man. It's really interesting to see how political he's gone and that immediately upon being because he was the darling of the left and the right. Oh, yeah, big, big time the left. But, but the left obviously for the cars, right? But the right because he's a successful businessman, right? And the second he takes a position politically, he is chastised, shamed, ridiculed. And even before that, think about it, everybody was invested in Tesla because the stock was going crazy. So not only are you the darling, you're making me money. Right. I want you to be great. Yeah. Once you're making people money, they don't want to write bad shit about you. Yeah. Especially they got a million dollars in visit and Tesla. Yeah. I'm not going to ridicule this guy and watch half of my money go away. Yeah. And the second he opened his mouth about politics. And the thing is he snaps back at people. He goes, which is crazy. He goes. Bro, he dunk some people. [2:30:05] Yeah, yeah don't understand how he does any of it. AI dude, he created another Elon. Maybe he is. Maybe he's AI. But what he's done with Twitter or X is really interesting. I call it Twitter. Yeah, it's hard for me to change world. Because it is an X that you something? It's a tweet. I tweeted it. Yeah, it's Twitter. It's kind of funny though, because it is X. Yeah, but it's Twitter. But it's Twitter. But like the idea that he is going to uphold this soapbox for free speech, despite having some awful things said, the greater outcome will be hopefully a civil society where ideas can permeate freely. He may have very well saved humanity in some way because by providing this one platform where people can actually speak their mind up to a point. You know, I mean, there's still some rules. [2:31:02] But up to a point, you could see, you get away with a lot of shit. I see so much racist shit on Twitter now that I never saw before. Like, open, openly racist. Really? Openly racist. Wow. Yeah, and then you see people chiming in that agree with it. And it's like, wow. And then people chiming in that disagree. Yep. And those all heard and there's a place for all of them. Yeah, and you just have to know that people do think certain ways. You know, even if you don't like it, you have to know that people do think certain ways and the answer to bad speech is not silencing speech. It's better speech. Better speech. Better speech. But you need to have a place where it can exist and where for there to be speech to even be consumed. Right. And there was no place before he took over Twitter. And that's the thing that the pendulum, so the shift that we were talking about where it's like, you have these pieces that came out that we thought were news. Now we see them as hip pieces. Right. And I think kids that are growing up with all this information and disinformation and misinformation, all this shit, I think that for us, it's a little bit more difficult, but for them, they will have the ability to discern and understand that they have to do a little bit more research. Yeah. I think it's, we get called victim of it like, like, old women when they get a phone call [2:32:09] from some Nigerian prince and they need to. That's us with news now. And we're like, wait a minute, fake things can exist. But I think the kids are going to grow up going, oh yeah, everything's fake. You just got to do some more research and figure it out. Yeah hope, that's my hope. Well, enough kids listen to podcasts, which really bothers people, that they're getting their information from people like us. Well, they have to. People like us don't have to lie. We have zero incentive to lie. And when we're talking about these things, like this is what I know. These are the facts, this is real. You're being fucked, you're being lied to, and it's not like there's not a motivation. Look at the amount of money they're making by fucking you. I mean, it's insane some of money that's involved in a lot of these decisions. And these decisions roll on whether or not we complain or not, but at least it kind of puts things in check. Maybe that's the solution. Just show how much money people are making. [2:33:01] Yeah. Show how much money CNN makes from the pharmaceutical industry. And then you will look at every story about pharmaceuticals through the by Pfizer. That's a genders and Cooper. They do it like right in your face. In the face. Brought to you by Pfizer. The vaccine is a perfect. Let's go to a commercial. Yeah. Brought to you by Pfizer. You will not get this virus. You will not transmit this virus. The virus stops with you. And no one complains. Now, do you think that the people that are disseminating the information are aware of the bullshit or they are the useful idiots? Meaning like, I think at a certain point in time, they must be aware. And if they're aware, they're evil. They're trapped. They're trapped. Because I think initially most people did think that the vaccines were gonna work. And it doesn't have to be vaccines, it can be anything. But once you're pushing out information that you know to be false, and you're potentially hurting people, it doesn't have to be vaccines, it can be anything. Right now you're evil. That's evil. That's evil. I don't fault someone who's maybe ignorant or a useful idiot or really passionate about a thing, but the person that knows and still puts it out. [2:34:00] But you have plausible deniability because you're using the opinion of the air quotes experts that are sanctioned And so they will tell you things and you will say things and you will read articles that support that and you will go Oh, this is a fact not if you're motivated by the agenda of your sponsors Like if you know that you have to have a certain opinion on the platform and that opinion is based on the people who are paying to sponsor the show Right, you you are aware, and that opinion is based on the people who are paying to sponsor the show. Right, you are aware. But that's also supported by these experts. But like you know, we can find experts in this. You're not, but right, since you're not an expert and you're just a talking head on CNN, your job is to say, but do you understand that the CDC has disagreed? The FDA has said this is not approved. The NIH has shown to various studies. This is not correct. And you can say that and you'd be accurate. You would be accurate as the news person on CNN is telling a lie. You have your justification so you can go home and sleep at night. And many, a lot of them don't even do any digging. They're there reading their job. They [2:35:01] read the teleprompter. They're fucking gambling on sports betting or some, who knows what the fuck they're doing with their spare time, but we're just assuming these people are truth tellers, they're not. We're assuming they're even journalists, they're not. Some of them are, but most of them are just talking heads. So there's maybe people that are good at reading. That's the transition that we're going through right now is just because someone is giving us information on a news platform with a ticker, does not mean that they know anything that they're talking about. It doesn't mean that it's necessarily true. Not only that, we are sure they are highly motivated by money, highly motivated, sponsored by money, put in position by money, the commercials, it's all money, money, money, money, money, making that money. Yeah. And no one's listening. That's what's crazy. But isn't that a beautiful thing? It is a beautiful thing. That means the people know and the people will seek out the information that they deemed truthful. Yes, there's gonna be some wackos that seek out the most extreme versions. Yes, that's us sometimes, because it's really fun. I want to indulge in all things as possible if it's my life in the line or my kids' life [2:36:08] in the line or my friends' life in the line. I'm going to actually go out there and figure it out. Hopefully. And the thing is, if it's not for a few brave people that stand up and tell you the truth, how do you... Okay, if there's no Robert Malone, if there's no RFK junior. If there's no Pierre Corey. If there's none of these people that stand up and lose like a sizable portion of their income, their careers get destroyed, their reputations get dragged to the mud, hit pieces get written about them. If it wasn't for these people that stand up and do that, and I never would have imagined in my wildest dreams that I would get sucked into that. What do you mean? I never thought that I would get sucked into something like that where people would be like lying about me. But when you watch it like on CNN, just function of power, like out-lion. But it's wild. And the dumbest lie. [2:37:00] Yeah. Like, bitch, do you think I'm taking horse medicine? You don't think I know like really good doctors that are telling me what to take? Yeah. How about the fact that I got better quick? That doesn't freak you out at all? Yeah. I got better real quick. Oh, you were so happy I bet. Wouldn't that shit kicked? What was it? 48 hours that it was. Yeah. Like three days later and I was fine. Three days after that I did 10 rounds on the back. Six days in I did 10 rounds on the back. I'm like, let's see how I feel. I worked out five days in, I felt pretty good. I said, all right, tomorrow let's get after it. And I did 10 fucking rounds on the back full clip. No problems. No problems. No lack of energy. I felt 100% six days later. 100%. 100% six days later. 100% Yeah. But I'm on top of my fucking health all day long, all year round. Yeah. I'm always in shape. I always take vitamins. I'm always eating well. Yeah. I sleep good. I do a lot of things. Yeah. Like you can't say that everyone has to adhere to the rules of this thing when you're lying about the results, [2:38:02] you're lying about the results, you're lying about the studies, you're influencing all these talking heads to say these things that turn out to not even be remotely true. Not only that, there's no studies behind it. They had to admit when they were speaking in front of whatever it was in the UK, that they never even tested these drugs for transmission. They just tested them and see if they created the antibodies. And then all that other stuff, they said said was bullshit. Yeah, that's the tricky thing about like making rules for 300 million people is that 300 million people are not the same. The way that you take care of your body is completely different than some asshole that's a consultant he's sitting as fucking desk all day, wears 300 pounds. And that rules, it's like an SAT. Like we have to find a way to judge intellect so that kids can go to school or not. There's some kid who flunked the SATs who's a fucking genius. And he's gonna go out there and make money. He's just bored with these things. He doesn't pay any attention. It's what you focus on. You could be a very smart person who doesn't study. And you take classes and you fucking bomb in your classes. [2:39:00] You suck. Because you don't know what you're talking about But if you ask that dude how to fucking fix a turbocharger that dude knows how to reengineer things Yeah, you know this is the problem. It's in the valves. We have to fix the valves And it's people that are genius at things that they're interested in yeah But if you keep them in a classroom they're bored of shit and feed them fucking dull ass teachers That spoon feed them shit that they're never gonna use They're not gonna they're never going to use. They're not going to, they're not going to thrive. Yeah. Yeah, how do you create systems so that these people can thrive? Well, you got to have freedom. That's a big one. You know, freedom is one of the massive factors in this country's ability to turn out innovators. Yeah. There's so much freedom to do things, freedom to try things. I love that it's part of the identity that we feel entitled to it. If you restrict it, I'm furious. And other people are furious. But that's not every country where they feel entitled to their freedom. Right, well that's a big thing about Texas. Texas, it's built into the fiber of the human beings [2:40:02] that established this place. But that's why you need Texas. You need Florida. I don't care if you don't like it. You need somebody pulling us in that direction because it's gonna take LA or it's gonna take New York. It's gonna pull them a little bit that way. When we see people party and having fun during fucking Corona in Texas and in Florida, we're like, well, maybe we can go out to eat. What's going on? Right. But if everybody's locked in, and there was nobody else out there. And there was nobody else out there. And there was nobody else out there. And there was nobody else out there. And there was nobody else out there. And there was nobody else out there. And there was nobody else out there. And there was nobody else out there. And there was nobody else out there. And there was of that decision. Because if that decision backfires, that's his. He did it based on science. He did it based on what we know about the disease. The same thing the Florida said, protect the vulnerable. Yeah, if you are an old person with a severely compromised immune system, you should get vaccinated, you should be protected, you should probably isolate. [2:41:01] It's just a brave decision. There's a lot weighing on that. Yeah, well, there's a lot of people here that wanted that decision though too, especially because he's a Republican. You know, most of the Republicans wanted the businesses back open. Most of the people are like, hey, what are you, you're taking away people's ability to make decisions and you're giving the government an unprecedented power that it never had before. Yeah. The government, the mayor's never had the ability to shut down all the restaurants. Yeah. What? And when they did that in LA, they had no effect whatsoever on their check. Their paycheck remained the same. Same no matter what. Yeah. I think, you know, you want to make fucking cities great? Have it so that the mayor's salary is based on how well the city does. Ooh. Now, what is, now, steel man, the opposition argument to that? Well, the government would co-opt it and then these financial institutions would co-opt it and they would figure out a way to build businesses up unethically. And the best way to make more money is to pay people less. So you would have lower income wages, lower minimum wages. [2:42:02] That's where it gets tricky. It's like, you know, you go through this in New York, especially when you have an apartment or something like that. And you've got to go through all this bureaucracy when you're renovating your apartment. That being said, what I do to my apartment affects a person downstairs, upstairs to the left to the right. So we have way more rules because we need them. Because what I do, fucks everybody else's life potentially. Right, real holes in the wall and get a leaky fucking pipe. People try to do it. Oh yeah. If they know you got a drop ceiling, they're trying to drop pipes into your fucking ceiling. You don't even see it. Really? This is, yes, all the fucking time. So they're like, oh, can I get access to your place and probe a wall to see something? And they'll drop a to raise their floor. There's things that they'll take advantage of their neighbor. And because of that, you gotta create all these extra rules and it's a real fuck to go through. Now when you have three acres of land in Texas, you can build a barn without people really looking at it that much, because you're not affecting your neighbor. So I do get why in certain places, you need a little bit more of a bureaucracy [2:43:03] because people will take advantage of each other. Yeah. So that does make sense. You can't have all the same rules for all the same places. Yeah. It's not going to work. Yeah, it's not going to work. You know what I mean? Yeah. But that's one of the cool things about this country is basically like a bunch of countries. Exactly. Like Europe. France is different than Germany, but they're all were smushed up next to each other, but when they were putting it together, they built it with that idea. They're like, hey, listen, if I'm up in Maine, it takes me on horseback four months to get to fucking Washington DC. Why should your rules affect my rules? Right. Let me do my thing. You do your thing. We'll agree on 10 fucking rules and then let's have some fun. States rights. There we go It does make sense. It makes sense that you gravitate towards the places that fit with your liking, which is why... You're here? Yeah. Psychopaths move to Portland. Like... For real. Like one thing I imagine like being born there, but like willingly going. Yeah, that's my people. Yeah, that's a little bit. [2:44:01] 15 face piercings, you're on your way. Reigning every day. Yeah, I want to be depressed. Yeah, let's go. The Oregon Trail, what idiots? I'm looking forward to camping. Yeah. Imagine going across the whole country and fucking one of those little covered wagons. Covered wagons and then getting to Portland and you're like, for this? Yeah, rains every day. It's beautiful though. It's gorgeous. You go over the screen. Yeah. Portland's gorgeous. And parts of Oregon are fantastic. Yeah. You know, where Cam lives. Cam lives out in like Springfield, that area. Oh, Camichines. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's beautiful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beautiful out there. He likes the thing about Oregon too. It's like our population centers. Yeah, it's all ranchers and farmers and, yeah. And those cities, like the liberal cities that are in the very conservative states are a reaction to how conservative the state is. So they're like the most liberal. Well, they're generally around education institutions. Oh, so they're built around the universities. Yeah, these from the universities. [2:45:01] Eugene's very liberal because around the universities there, universities affect the university is. The youth is very liberal. Because around the universities there, universities affect the like Boulder, Boulder Colorado perfect one. University of Boulder's right there. It's, if I get every university Colorado, everybody's liberal. They're all hippies up there. Cause it's all like the city itself sort of like revolves around the education institutions and the culture of the education institution dictates the culture of the city. Sure, Sure. Yeah, that's why New York, I think, is so unique is everybody thinks they were like this super like liberal city and it's like, it's a money city. Money wins in New York. In the Manhattan? Yeah, it's a lot of it's the financial business. But if you go to Long Island, that's very red. That's, I think even Manhattan is red. Like all these, we're open when it comes to gay stuff. We love our gays. They create great cultural institutions within the city. You like going a Broadway, you like seeing musical theater. They offer a lot. You like the art. You're coming to New York for art. They offer so much. So we're like, yeah, those guys are dope. Kick it. [2:46:00] That's awesome. A lot of gay chefs, a lot of gay artists. Gay's killing New York. And they create a lot for singers. And we really appreciate it. And it's amazing. And but when it comes to actual, like the rules, New York is kind of conservative. Like we've had conservative mayors. Like Bloomberg wasn't some fucking, like bleeding heart liberal. He's a money dude. Right. He just came in. He was like, yo, we can't pay for you pay me back and we're like, I like this guy, this is fucking Bruce Wayne. Right. You know, so, yeah, I think the perception of New York is a little weird. A little false. I think that guy didn't go any further in politics. No charisma. Is that what it is? Yeah, New York, we don't care about charisma with the mayor's really. We don't even know who our politicians are. That lady's out to lunch. I have no clue, but New York is, we don't care. It's the mayor of New York City is the governor of the state in our minds. Right, right, that's the leader. We just don't, like, yeah. You tell, you're saying what's going on here and that's all that matters. Right. We're very, yeah. That's the only thing we York is so diverse, you can't tell immigrants are there. [2:47:07] Does that make sense? Like if there's other cities that are like really homogenous, they're all white and then all of a sudden a bunch of not white people come, you're like, oh my God, we got immigrants everywhere. But for a New Yorker, I think we got some immigrants here. It's impossible. Right. Everybody's in immigrants. Everybody's brown, everybody's black, everybody's age. Like there's all these different ones. The tricky thing with, you're talking about the migrant crisis, is that they're taking advantage of a, New York is like the biggest state in the country. It's like, I think maybe the only big city that has a right to shelter. Right. It's the only one of this size that has a right to shelter. It used to be for homeless people. It's only for homeless people. They're taking advantage of a system as built for homeless people, which is pretty fucking good if you ask me when you have the financial hub of the world, you want people sleeping on the streets, you go, no, let's put some money so they can go inside. Like this is, and homeless people are supposed to like, basically enter in and out of homelessness. The idea is give them some shelter, maybe they can get back out on their feet. Right. [2:48:05] The migrants hear about this and they're like, what free housing? Let's get up there. Right. So they're taking advantage of a system that is not for them. And I think when New Yorkers have kind of learned that, they're like, ooh, this is, this is, there's something unethical about this. Yeah. And I think that's where a lot of the pushback is happening. But in terms of like visually being able to see it, it's not something that New Yorkers notice. Right. We just can't. The news makes it seem like it is. Right. We see the article, oh this guy beats up the police or something like that. But in terms of when you're walking down the street, it is not detectable. So unless you're near one of these places, like the Roosevelt Hotel that they've converted. It's the Roosevelt, it's create like the one that's right across the street from Madison Square Garden. You know the hotel. Yeah. I couldn't believe they converted the whole thing. It's an iconic hotel. It was in that fucking Jennifer Lopez movie. Oh yeah, she worked there. Which is the main. Yeah. Yeah. So, but this is like a hotel we all know, we see it after every next game. It's like, you can't fathom that the whole hotel. [2:49:05] Yeah. And also that system that was set up for the homeless was already operating a capacity. And then you increase the amount of migrants into the city by 50%. I think it went up 50% in the last couple of years. Of course, there's gonna be this insane overflow and it just can't handle it. Nuts. It just can't handle it. But they're taking advantage of something that's not for them. So I understand the frustration about it. But is there any kind of pushback to try to stop to that? 100%. What are they doing? Nothing. Just hope everybody's doing what benefits them. And then the politicians are shrewd. Like Adams is shrewd. He told the governor, Hoekol I think her name is. was like he's like listen, I think we're gonna have to shut down a new recruitment class for the police We don't have any more money because we got all these migrants. I mean you guys got to do something about that You got to give me some more money. He got some more money He didn't shut down anything so he got more money and now he's funding everything that he needs to fund And I don't know if anything is changing so everybody's playing politics as well. It's, it's, it's. Well, wasn't he involved in some sort of a thing [2:50:05] where they were giving the debit cards to the immigrants, the illegal migrants? And he was, they were all getting a piece. The fifth thing is like, yo, what the hell is going on? But this, the 50s is the best. Yeah, 50s. He's the best. Bro, we got back in the day, I interviewed him. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah, for the UFC. And it was real quick. It was, you know, like he was celebrity sitting, you know, cage side. Bro, he's, dude. He goes all in, bro. He goes all in. We hung out in Boston once and he was like blowing my mind. It was like somebody explaining the Godfather to you if you've never saw the movie. You're like, this happens, this is real. Yeah, just like, he's a fucking man. Anyway. What's up with him, he's never been on your show. I wanna get him on. I mean, we just connected for the first time when I was doing the shows up in Boston. He was there as well, but I want him on. There's a perfect podcast. Oh, dude, he goes all in. [2:51:06] He goes on. That shit on the breakfast club with him about Ditty. Bro, and he's been that way forever. You know that, right? He's like, why is the guy trying to take me shopping? Yeah. What the fuck did he just say? What the fuck did he just say? He just said. And then you see when did he went on he goes he goes I just try to be nice He goes he goes he wanted some clothes. I thought he needed some clothes. That's that's like a subtle jab too That was funny but yeah, but also like what I'm going at it is just Fit these one of those dudes where it's like if if you don't like you I got to hear him out. Yeah. Yeah. I gotta hear him out. He might know something. Right. He might be on to something. Yeah. He's wild. We gotta go to dinner fifth. Yeah. He's wild. I like when they were going after him for some financial support or some like that. He said, I'm bankrupt. Yeah. He's like, I don't got it. I got it. $400 million deal from fucking vitamin water. [2:52:07] The next fucking Instagram post has got a Bentley. Look. He's smart. He'll play the system. Yeah. He knows how to do it. Yeah. It's hilarious. Let them write all the articles. Oh, 50s broke. Whatever you want. Whatever. And he's got his dudes from day one with him still. That's something I always think is really cool. Yeah, that's important. Yeah. When you come back to New York, man. I don't know. I'm gonna be there for the UFC in Jersey. That's in June, I guess. I'll be there for a while. Okay, good. You don't miss it at all. Any place you miss? Nope. Not a single place. I'm not like a miss or kind of. We're about foreign like a place that you want to be back to. I like going to visit places. Yeah. Yeah, I like visiting places, but it's like, I love Texas. Yeah. I love being right here. Yeah. Like right away, like right away I was like, ooh, this is it. This is a spot. Yeah. It balance for me. I love it. I really do. I don't miss, I miss what LA used to be, but [2:53:07] I think we've done that and more at the mothership. What LA was for me was my friends, you know, was the life that I lived, the people that I communicated with all the time and, you know, the comedy store. And you built that out here. And we built that out here. We made it even better. Anything from LA that you still want to bring out besides Joey Diaz. That Joey's in New Jersey, but Joey's been coming out. But he's from LA for you. Yeah, he's fell. But Joey was sick of it before anybody was. Yeah. Joey was sick of it before anybody was. Yeah. You know, when I left the comedy store in 2000, 2007, Joey was like, good, fuck that place. He was, Joey's a burn, the bridge is kind of guy. He doesn't give a fuck, you know? And he was the first guy to, like, I think he moved to Jersey early on, man. [2:54:01] Like right around the time I was moving to Texas, he was to jerseys like I'm getting the fuck out of here yeah I was trying to get him to come out here but he wasn't interested he loves jerseys but I think it'll eventually come out here yeah he loved it when he was here man we I had him out here for three days and I'm got him out here for four 20 weekend out here nice and you know when he's out here he it's like he misses the hang. He misses being around comics, misses the green room, misses the energy in the green room when he was phenomenal. It was just such a party. It was such a party. And everybody was like, dude, it feel like Joey just belonged there. Like he just sat down on the green room, he was like, he's always been here. Because it kind of always has been here. That sign, get it together, bitch. It's on the wall. That's Joey. That's what he always used to say. You get ready to go on stage like get it together, bitch. And it was just, it was like that meant the party was about to jump off. So to have that neon sign in the green room, the spirit of Joey has always been there. That's your last avenger, bro. [2:55:01] You get that together he's the Hulk yes you call him in you call him in when you got a prop yeah yeah he's been murdering on stage too he lost a beat lost a beat yeah does he go up in Jersey he goes up goes over a couple times a week just keep the dust off of it yeah but when he came here he was he was tuned in man really he was ready to go oh my god he was hilarious I'll tell you some of the shit he's so crazy wait wait. He's so wild. I don't want to give up his bits, but oh my God, he's so wild. He's so fun, man. And it's always fun. It's fun with him. Everything's fun. Yeah. Everything is good times. Everybody gets hugs. He loves you. Tells everybody loves him. Yeah. He's just he's the party. Now he's fantastic man. Yeah, his stories. I remember when he came on on a part of me, his his story is just being in Colorado, those stories. Oh, yeah. It's a movie like you're watching a movie in your head. Just this MOOC, just fucking walking around Colorado, taking advantage of all these dumb idiots there. Like, oh, the trees are green. Like, he's like, oh, I'm gonna take all of them, I'm gonna take all of them. It's just amazing. [2:56:07] Yeah, yeah. And the fact that he gets in the standup comedy and he's just such a character, man. There's no joy deas other than him. So I don't know anybody like him. Yeah. You get real lucky in this world that we live in. that you get to be close to these exceptional human beings. But it is different. It is different than anybody else you know. You collect a lot of these guys, I've noticed. Yeah, like a lot of your friends, they're, they're like, they're these unique personalities, especially the non-comics. But they're, they're these like kind of misfits that I've noticed., even your buddy, was it Tommy who plays pool? Like every one of your guys that I meet, like within 15 minutes, they're telling me a story that just blows my fucking mind. And it's really interesting. They're unique in their own right, but they are these characters that should be in movies. [2:57:01] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a cultivation of extraordinary humans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a cultivation of extraordinary humans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, life's more fun that way. Yeah. It makes your life richer. You enjoy it. Yeah. And when they win, you win. Everybody wins. Yeah. It's all everybody's having a good time. Yeah. And that's possible. That could be done. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, but you have to cultivate it. And when you cultivate a garden, and you gotta root it out too. You have some bad apples in there. You gotta get them out. Yeah, gotta get them out. Yeah, that can be tricky times. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Miss Joey. I gotta call Joey. He'll be out here soon. Yeah, I gotta drag him into the city. I wish he could, I mean, he's kind of far like, you know, where he's in like Cherry Hill or something like that, right? He's in like down, down there. Yeah, so he's not like a coming from the night. No, he's an hour from the city. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. It's an hour. If he's 20 minutes, then, you know. Yeah, he Do a lot of, you know, local gigs. You know, there's gigs now. There's a lot of [2:58:06] places you could work. Yeah. Just to fuck around, just keep the dust off. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, him coming on was just fucking great. Yeah. What lucky we know all these people, man. We're very lucky. There's, there's people out there that don't have any exceptional people in their life. And they live through these conversations that we have with those people vicariously. Yeah. Because those people become a part of their life too. Like, oh shit, shoulders on and they get excited. I will say that's the cool thing about people knowing you from podcasting is that they probably know more about your life than like even some of your friends do. Oh yeah. Because they're hanging out with you for hours a week. So when they meet you, they're meeting this person they know a lot about, not this character from a TV show that is not reflective of you at all. Right. You're not Ross from Friends. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Because Ross might be completely different than Ross from Friends. Right. And I can understand like why you might resent people loving you for a character you play when you know you're not that character. But if people appreciate you for what you do either in standup or [2:59:08] even podcasting or whatever, it's like they're appreciating this thing you really care about and a true version of yourself. Yes. So the love feels worth it, you know? That's also why it's very difficult to like cast someone in an unfavorable light that people already know. Like the human thing. We try to take a distorted version of that person and say this is who they really are. He talks to them four hours a week. Yeah, they don't know. You're not gonna change the way that they feel about him. He also talks to other people like you or me where we're fucking around joking around and you get to see the real him. Yeah. You know, it's not just the distribution of information. It's also like, this is the guy. Yeah. This is who he is. Yeah. He's gonna be okay. Oh, he's better than ever. Yeah. Yeah, he's fine. Yeah. And it's good that people see, it's good that people That means he's doing something good. Well, he's a target. [3:00:05] And if you're popular and famous, you're a target. And if you're gonna be the type of person that goes after those people, that's like, that's a dark path. That's not a good path. And you become a target too. They find you. Well, that's, yeah, like, yeah, what we were saying is I think it's important that when these people are writing these clearly biased hit pieces that they're also recognized for what they've done. Yeah, and The world will see that if you put out something like this There is a cost. Yeah, you're not doing it with impunity. It's also there's a cost in your own mind You know what you did these motherfuckers. I don't think they care I think think they do and they don't. I think they think they can do it because they're supposed to do it because that's their job. But I think once the impact comes back their way, they're like, I don't want to pay this price. Yeah. The blowback is awful. And that blowback stays on you. It doesn't people will Google that for years to come. They'll know when you write something out. I've never seen anything but I've done that. I've never seen anything but I've done that. And then they'll dig into your past, man. [3:01:07] They'll find some things that you did. They'll find some people that are upset at you. It's also just like negative energy. You're putting out negative energy. People that build people up, people that build people up through their own version of reality that they're writing about and they're inspiring people and they're giving people hope and they're giving people something positive. That's a great bloat. The response to that is like this beautiful thing that everybody's helping everybody advance through this bizarre existence. But if you're the person that's just always knocking people down, always attacking, you live in that negative space just always knocking people down, always attacking, you live in that negative space. Even like, dude, when I had that whole thing with Mencea, even that, which I knew, A had to be done, and B, I was one of the only people that was in a position where I could do it. And even though I did experience a lot of blowback, even career blowback. I lost my agency, I got banned from the store, and even me at the time who was doing well [3:02:11] knew that like, oh, this is why people don't do this. Because this is the real reaction to someone that steps up and says something about something that has to be said. But even the negative shit that I would get is back in the the I read the comments days. The negative response from his fans. It was awful. It was awful. You don't want that in your life. Even though I knew it was the right thing to do, I remember saying to myself like, I'm not gonna get involved in one of these again. I'm done with this. This is this is gross. Yeah. It's like you're you're at the center point of this nasty negative thing. And even though for the art form, it was positive. Like the negative negativity that I experienced, even though it was overwhelmingly positive, just the small amount of negativity is not worth it. [3:03:03] It felt bad for a long time. I didn't like it. And I didn't even like all the people that were constantly and consistently attacking him. I don't like it. I don't like any of it. I don't like that every time he makes a comment, like every time he posts something, you steal that and start, like, you're, you've opened the door to the lowest version of the vibration that humans give, which is attacking, breaking you down, sorry, I can kick you because you're down. Yeah. And they just kick in them and, you know, in a lot of ways he deserves it. Because that's what he did. That was his legacy. That's what he did. He stole material from comedians and created a career off of the back of other people's work. And in every other business that's theft, and every other business, you know, you get penalized, you go to court, if it's music, you lose all your money, and in this one, for whatever reason, our business, people don't take intellectual copyright as nearly as seriously. It's not jokes or thought of as like not an important thing. It's not like literature, it's not like plagiarism, [3:04:01] or what it wants to be. It only paid the bills with this. Yeah. This is what we do. And it's how we feed our families. And it is creative work. It's difficult to do. It takes hours. It takes months. It takes years. Some bits takes forever to construct. To make them, we just rattle them off. Yeah. There's some bits that, you know, they just, they require years of like hammering that steel and sharpening that blade. That takes forever. I think that's the best metaphor for it. It is sharpening a blade, banging away at it constantly. And you're doing it wrong and you gotta correct it. You're doing it right and you gotta remember it. Yeah, you gotta go over the recordings. You gotta stay from it. You gotta stay from it. Back a couple of months away. Oh, okay. This is exciting.ings, yes, yes, yes, yes. But yeah, to take somebody's work like that is infuriating. But it's a really interesting perspective to have for you to even look back at that and find empathy for him. Oh, I definitely have empathy for him. I have empathy for everybody. And people that make horrible mistakes, like he did for so long, I have empathy for him. And it's the trap that he's in [3:05:01] because he wanted to admit it either. It's the trap that he's in because he won't admit it either. It's the worst. That's the worst. Wait a minute till this day. Yeah, he won't admit it. So he's trapped. He's trapped in this justification that nobody believes. And he tries to spin a tail that nobody believes. Because the truth is the only thing that'll set you free. Yeah. And the problem with those people, and there's a bunch of them, we know quite a few of them, is there people that start their career stealing? Yeah. And they do really well, and they kill it, and then they get exposed, and then they have to write their own shit. And it doesn't add up. Oh boy, that drop off. Oh boy, is that drop off substantial. Yeah. There are people that had initial specials that were bangers. And then after that initial special, everything after that is hot dog shit. Now they gotta do the work. Now they have to do the work. They don't have to do it. They don't understand the language they're speaking. It's basically like speaking French, but you don't know what the words mean. But you say Polly Vouffre en say and everybody's like, amazing. But you don't know what the fuck you're saying. You spoke French in a movie. Yeah. And they gave you all the lines and you did the lines [3:06:06] and everybody's like, this person's fluent in French. And now you gotta go to Paris and walk around. And people are speaking you in French. I don't understand a fucking word anybody's saying. The language of comedy too is something that you, the type of mindset that would make a person steal someone's bit and do it verbatim on stage is the exact opposite mindset of a creative person. Because you want to do the different thing. You want to do the unique thing. You want to have to take nobody else has. Right. Yes. Which is the banger. Yeah. Where you go, well, hold on. Yeah. What about that? You're like, wow. We'll tell them that. How come that just fucking stopped getting an issue? The beautiful thing about a joke is that like, it always is existing right, the great ones are always existing right in front of us. Yeah. And we just haven't grabbed on it. So, somebody says it, you're like, you mother fucker. Exactly. How did I not? Exactly. It's that that's the best feeling when someone has a bit, like why didn't I think of that? That's the best feeling. when it comes up to you and goes, oh my God, that bit is so good. And it can be simple. It can be such a simple. [3:07:06] But that requires it, you're not thinking about yourself. You're thinking about the work, the thing, the piece that you're working on. When your person thinks about themselves, I was like, I'm gonna kill by saying these things, and I'm gonna get this. It's literally like blocking creativity. Yeah, yeah. And so then when they have to be creative, it's terrible. They just never learned. They don't have to do it. They don't have to spend the time in the gym. They don't have to lift the weights. They just don't know what it is. And they're pretending they're black belts. Yeah. They're out there pretending to be a black belt with all the confidence of a black belt. But Yeah, you fucked up. No, that does happen. Yeah. And it's like, it's hilarious when you see a really bad special from a known thief. Yeah. And some of them, they'll still step on premises that they know other people have done. And they still sucks, because they can't steal anymore. The language is the best way of putting it. Yeah. [3:08:01] It's like, you don't understand the language of comedy. Yeah, it is a fuck and that's something I wonder like the people who start really young Like you know how like when you learn a language young yeah, you have a way greater aptitude for it And there's a fluency and a comfort within Whereas if you try to learn a language at like 40 Maybe it's just not gonna be a start like you can memorize vocabulary You can do all these things just a little bit harder for you to be like a resource is because you know Like can do all these things just a little bit harder for you to be able to resources because you know, like when you're 40, you have bills and family and obligations and things that are bothering you all day long. Yeah. When you're 15 or 12, you don't have any of those problems. You have a few problems with friends. You don't have any bills, foods on there's available every night. Yeah. You're not worrying about how that electric stays on. Yeah. You about that. You know, kid, the internet's on. I've type in. Explore. Yeah, you're free. You have so little resources that are being allocated to all these different things. Yeah. That when you're a person that you have a family and a mortgage and fucking business. Responsibility. That and neighborhood. Yeah. [3:09:00] Homeowner's association. Yeah. And having One of those associations, and having human resources at work, and taxes, and you have the time to learn French. Yeah, you better learn it before all that. Yeah, yeah, it's much easier if you learn it before all that. Because otherwise, you're just not gonna have the time to obsess about a thing. And the obsession and like, the purity, when you really care about the thing you're talking about, like I don't know if you've went through times in your snap career where there wasn't something you wanted to share. Did you ever go through stretches like that? Yeah, you had nothing to talk about. Yeah, especially when you're young. Yeah, and it's like, or there was times where I felt like I talked about all the things. And I had a strike before this last hour. I was like, man, what do I want to say? All right, I did the thing about abortion. I've done the thing about trend. I did all the things. And I'm like, I don't want to just be grabbing at a topic. I want to really like feel strongly about something. Actually be interested. Exactly. And I took like a little bit of time off before actually felt something. And the funny thing is when you feel strongly about something, [3:10:02] it pours out. It's not hard. The jokes might not be good at first, but you can't wait to tell them and figure them out. Try to figure out a joke you don't care about. It's a job. It's not an art. That's a job. But when you care and it's fun and exciting and the stakes are fucking high and it could fuck up, that I wanna get on state. I can't wait. Give me another spot. How do I want you to try to figure it out in real time? In front of a group of people? And you have to listen to specific response from them and that's be humor. You know, it's so funny. You ever listen to a recording of like a new bit and when you're on stage doing it, you're like, that crushed. And then when you listen back, you're like, oh, it did okay. But you were just so excited. Yes. Did it work? Yes. Did the excitement change almost the way that you interpreted the crowd? Yes. And I don't know. For me, I'm like, oh, that means I really like this. But also, that's the problem with old bits. You don't get enthusiastic about it anymore. And the audience doesn't feel the enthusiasm from you. And you're like, why is this not working? Right. It's because You're not working. Because it's not math. Yeah. Some people are doing like word problem jokes. At its core, it's not word problem. [3:11:05] It's like those people got to connect to the way you feel about this thing. Exactly. And they'll pick up quick. Exactly. Exactly. And there's ways to trick the system with like, Mr. X and all this kind of stuff. But if they can feel, they can sense the deep down, you and you got guys like Joey's a perfect example. It's like when he's fucking rolling, he feels it. It feels like he is equally passionate about it, the first time he said it, and then, and you get caught up. It's not becoming a joke. Yeah, it's a no-sus. Yeah. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He hypnotized the entire crowd to think the way Joey thinks. Yes. Yes. That's what he's doing. You're on like an emotional wavelength. Yes. And to me, that's like the, that's the highest form of it. Obviously you want to have destruction, you want to have the jokes, you want to have the missterex and all these things 100%. But to me, I think those are almost like, that's like the icing and sprinkles on the cake. The cake is built with how much do I really care about this position. Yes. And sometimes the position is just me being naughty or silly or absurd. [3:12:06] Doesn't matter. Yeah. But I got to fucking care about it. Right. Yeah. It has to be important to you. Yeah. And they feel that. Yeah. Yeah. And those are the bits I always remember. They can be the silliest little fucking things. Like little things Patrice would hit by the subway. There's gonna be a delay and he just, he just stands there and all of a sudden, he like moves his sleeve to look at his watch to see how late he's gonna be to work. And it's just this little tiny thing which is like, that's how we would feel in a moment. Like, he didn't even need a punchline. It's just like, a guy's dead, turned into jelly on the tracks. He's like, 915 fuck. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. How many of those can I make in my life? Yeah. That's to me. And you always think that when you have a new bit, like, this is the last new bit, like, I don't have anything else to say. But you'll always have something to say. You just need the time. [3:13:01] Yeah. You need the time, you need the time and need to think. And again, it needs to be something you're actually interested in. So you have to find something you're actually interested in. Yeah. That's the difference between thieves. Like that's why I don't have interest in killing themselves. Exactly. They're interested in themselves. How can I succeed? How can I win? Yeah. Yeah. And they usually always tearing down other comedians too. Yeah, which is always ironic well because they're projecting how they feel about themselves Yeah, it's fascinating. It's fascinating But it's also fascinating that there's still a few thieves out there that have managed to like slip through and their existing Arons were all aware of them like they're this one Look at them over there. Why do you think there are more people that don't call them out then? Because there's does definitely career implications. Consequences. Yeah. You know, like some of these people wind up being successful and they hire people. That's one of the things they love to do. Thieves will hire a bunch of other thieves when they got a television show. And they have thieves, like a thief will hire [3:14:01] a bunch of comedians, I should say, when they get a television show and they give them work and they support them. And then this is like, then you have a bunch of people that will defend you. Like that's very common. And because you're paying them. Exactly, exactly. Like the thieves will go out and get a bunch of people that maybe they swipe some bits from and they'll put them on their television show. Yeah, I know people have done that. So that's their way of it. Paying a back. Paying a back. Paying a back. Yeah. Hooking them up. Paying them back. I'll give you examples after the show. We don't need to be negative. Talk about people. But there's a bunch of that that I know. But you know, there's also a bunch of people that are killing it that we know are pure. Yeah. And having this like amazing successful run right now, because of the internet, because of streaming platforms that are leaning into really good comedy and not comedy that like fits a certain narrative. Yeah. And I think those people, if I look at the people who have in the most success right now, I think it's the people that are pure. And there's a lot of that. Yeah. I mean, we can talk after [3:15:04] but the people that I see crushing it, the people I'm looking at, and I'm just like, holy shit, this guy deserves it. Yeah. And he's just hilarious. Yeah. And I'm looking at these people, and I'm just like, that could have went a different way. On a percent. Like it could have went a really different way. Yeah. But the structure was set up in a way where he had another opportunity and with his second chance demolished anything that could have stood in his way. Yeah. And it's like, okay, I look at that and I go, okay, there is some justice in this. There's also people in his corner who want him to succeed. Yeah. Well, when you know that he's doing the work for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is a great time for comedy, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is a great time for comedy, man. Yeah, I think it might be the best time ever. I really do. I think this is the legitimately the golden age of comedy. We're in it. And this is also when Ari said it best. He's like, comedy's dangerous now. Is it's fun? Because comedy's dangerous again. Yeah. Because, you know, like there's so many people that want to restrict what people can and can't talk about. [3:16:05] That's unique. I feel like the restriction is less now. Really? Yeah. Now, right now, currently. Like, in today, I feel like we can kind of say anything. It's supposed to like two years ago. Two, five, five to two years. Like, now you're like, oh shit, this joke is wild to say. What's also people are wanting you to go out there. They get excited. Like we did that diddy bit. Like we wanted you to go out there. They're like, oh he went right in there. Oh Jesus Christ. I remember I got to LA day early and I was trying to like work out some like local stuff because sometimes it's fun. Just you know, you're in a city, you're like and I was at the store and I was bombing my ass off with local shit. Every local joke I tried to do was just fucking bomb and I was like, what the fuck am I gonna talk about the forum, like everything I try? And I thought that they were like aware that like the city was, you know, in a different state than it used to be. And I'm trying to write all these jokes about like, what's happened to the city? And people in LA don't really feel the city's change that much. That's like an outside perspective. So I'm saying it and they're kind of laughing, but they're like, or they're aware [3:17:05] and they don't want to admit it. Right. And I remember we just, and I was just in the green room, I'm just like, fuck, maybe the joke is about Diddy. That's the only thing everybody's talking about. That's on our minds. That's what's happening. And then bro, this is how funny Fitty is. shares. Can you? Yeah. I'll tell you the full thing after. But I got FaceTime from 50 and he's like, he's like, yo, next time I come see you, bro, I'm gonna come out on stage with a multi cat. I'm like, bro, you're the craziest motherfucker. Imagine him walking out on a show, pet a fucking cat. So what do you think was going on? With who? Meek and Ditty? I don't think any. [3:18:00] I don't think Meeks Gay, I don't think anything's happened with them. I think that was just like a funny rumor that happened. But I didn't say that when I first did the Meek joke. I was like, I don't think anything's happening with them. I think that was just like a funny rumor that happened. I didn't say that when I first did the meek joke. I was like, I don't think he's gay. He just handled the accusations poorly. Yes. He just handled it. Yeah, he said, I love pussy. Who does that? That's the gayest thing. Yeah, it's okay. But I don't Maybe he's probably not consulting with anybody. Yeah. But how do guests? Nobody consult with you when something happens? Just post whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have like a team telling me. Don't say that before the podcast. That would be a problem. Yeah, it would be. Yeah. I would never gotten anywhere. Yes. Yeah, we need you to not have a team, actually. Yeah, it's actually kind of important. You don't have a bunch of people you consult with about what could be dangerous. Because then who controls them? What are their intentions? Yeah, exactly. And what are they doing this based on? You know, self preservation? Yeah. It's just wild that he apparently had cameras in every room of his house. [3:19:05] That's what they're saying. Has that been verified? I don't think it's been verified. I think like the Epstein shit it never will be. Now I'm not saying that he's like Epstein. You know, I think that he could have some fucking wild parties and so on and so on. But if he's filming everybody. If he's filming everybody, I understand why Hummer showed up to the house because people who went to the parties were like get those fucking things Hundreds of hidden cameras discovered in Diddy's homes lawsuit says. Oh, well then it's yeah, it's a rap done Hundreds. Yeah, you will never see any of that footage. Let's do that hundreds of cameras. That is so crazy Because if he's doing wild shit a court filing Jones said he work with combs between September 22nd and To September of 2022 and September of 2023 to produce the rapper's most recent release. So he said hundreds of cameras in his homes in LA, New York, and Miami. And did he like to throw the parties? Like he would throw the white party to, you know, but who's he have taken care of that footage? I mean, you know, you can get [3:20:02] people. Wow. You know, powerful dude. These are powerful dude. And I think he really enjoyed power. The underage people, implicating people in crimes by bringing underage people to them. And what does that mean? That was the whole thing about the Epstein Place. Is that like if you've got underage girls and you don't tell these guys, these are underage girls, and then they get them drugged up, get them drunk, give them coke, whatever it is, and then film them. Yep. While they don't even know. So they don't know that they're committing acts of pedophilia. Could be, or could be they do know, and they think it's safe to do it, because this guy's protecting them. But meanwhile, they're just coked up and they're getting filmed. Yeah. You know, which is also the theory. Yeah. But it is, you gotta think, when someone becomes, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. When someone becomes like a wild billionaire character, you're like, well, where's the pussy? [3:21:01] Yeah. Where's the shit that I got rich for? You imagine you went to the island? That's all the fun. I need to, like, how do I get the fun? And then someone comes along, like, you need to get connected with my friend, Jeffrey Amstin, he takes care of everything. And he brings the fun. And so you just keep flying to hang out with them. And so that's your party. And you can't go to Vegas and go and get crazy and bring them back to your suite with Coke and people talk too much. So here's the thing, it's like these tech guys have made all this money, right? They made all this money. They're hanging out in Miami or wherever they're hanging. And they're like, I'm a billionaire now. Why am I not getting pussy? I gotta connect with some people that can make me the man. I thought I'd be the man now that I'm a billionaire. I bet in like the CEO world. And in that world of country clubs and in fucking skull and bones, there's dudes who know how to get the hookers. Oh, here's the thing, it's not even the skull and bones guys. Because that's like old wasps, shit. I'm talking about the nerd from Silicon Valley. [3:22:00] The nerds, no prostitutes. So the nerds, no prostitutes. So the nerds have Coke. It's not even the nerds. They have a guy who's, it's their job to throw the parties. It's the fish. Now, you know like these like jet-setter crews, my boy was explaining how this thing works to me. So you have these like events around the globe that like wealthy people go- Like Davos. Not even Davos. More just like a New York Fashion Week in the US Open. All happens around Labor Day in New York, right? So everybody who comes from money and all these rich socialite people from around the world, they all come to New York for that week, right? And they go to the nice parties and they do all the things. Tech bros or the crypto bros wanna be included in that cool thing. Right. How do they be included? They gotta throw the best party. Right. How do they be included? They got to throw the best party. How do you make the best party? You have to have all the models. You have to have the cool people. Right. They don't know any of those. Right. So you get the fixer. The fixers get paid crazy money from the tech-brows or cryptobows because they want in on this thing. And you develop a reputation and being the guy puts on the crazy bashes. Now, once you have that reputation, they think they're in all these other people [3:23:07] who are like the socialite people who come from tons of money and their parents are lords and shit, they look at them like, oh, you're paying a play. It's a bringer show for comedy. You're not really selling out carolines, you did the bringers show. Right. But they don't the thing. So there's this whole economy that kind of like feasts off these people who just have money. But here's the thing, those people are doing the fixers. They got the models to show up. These models are curating their Instagram by going to these parties around the world. Sometimes they're getting paid to go to the parties. I imagine the models that are more fun, in other words, they get a little loose, They like to party and they like to fuck a little bit. They get invited more. Yeah. The ones that are less fun, maybe a little bit more tight. They don't fuck. They don't get invited as much. So you don't even have to say, oh, you got to fuck these guys. You just want to know if you want to get invited to this nice party in Switzerland. Right. [3:24:06] You know what kind of thing you start doing a little blows, start doing a little molly. That's what you like to do in the first place. And then you get to party on yachts and you're hanging out with all these guys and maybe even pay you. Well, they are a pan. Yeah. And everybody's fucking saying, it's a lot of money. You know the Salt and O'Brennyes deal? What is it? Oh my God. Salt and O'Brennyes, Maybe he still does. Okay. So he has like 500 Ferrari's. Like these guys have insane amounts of money because it's not public, right? So they don't have to be like a world rich with many things. Exactly. But they're richer than everybody. Yeah. Right, they have trillions. And so he had his own nightclub. And so what he would do is he would pay actresses, he would find these girls, get me her, and he would get these gals and give them exorbitant amounts of money to come. And then he would have a nightclub where it was only him. And he would go down there and it's filled with gorgeous women. And he would go down there and just go, you come with me. And then they'd go fucking party. And they were making a lot of money. [3:25:01] And one of them was writing a book. And so she had a laptop, and she was like documenting, they confiscated her laptop, and then she went back to America that she spilled the beans, and she ratted out all the other girls that were doing it, and kind of fucked up the whole thing. Cause like, A-list people, we're getting shit tons of money. This thing, to go over there, far. Yeah, I would say A-list, but people that you know. Yeah, there's like, people you know of. And if you go there, you get millions of dollars. Like this lady had gotten millions of dollars in jewelry from him. There's a service that apparently, we're like, yeah, apparently. We're like, billionaires can fuck like sports illustrated models and shit. Like Victoria's Secret Chicks, chicks that we've seen, and it's costs a lot of money, and they do it because it's like, hey, it's easier than, you know, going to do these shoes is the easiest money. And they don't want to tell anybody that they did it. And also, they get enough fuck billionaires and not fucking some random crackhead. They're gonna already fuck the billionaires. and make some fucking money doing it, and it exists now. And you know about this allegedly? Legitly, I may know people who have partaken. [3:26:08] So it's like, this exists. Bank like cover of Maxim. I don't know the cover, I don't know what's going on. But I'm not, you know. Just some hot ladies that you are aware of. But they're not just hot chicks that come from Russia, right? We're talking about famous people. That you would never think would even need to do that. Right. Just, these are like the ecosystems that exist out there. Well, it makes sense if you're worth $200 billion, and you give someone a million dollars to fuck you. That is nothing. You make that in five minutes. So I'll never deny spending. Okay. In 2001, Jeffrey was forced to auction off his personal possessions after using the country as a piggy bank, spending an average of $747,000 a day for 10 years. On top of the 17 billion in gifts to friends and family, the Sultanese true vulgarity was exposed. His brother also treats the company as the country as an ATM, and it remains a crime [3:27:03] in Brunei for anyone to ever discuss how the royals spend their money when you don't work for your money how can you value it like if it just comes right out the ground like how do you really think that's how much is he spent it today that's how is it going to be so great lives in a palace with one thousand seven hundred and eighty eight rooms two hundred fifty seven bathrooms five swimming pools, a mosque, a banquet hall that holds 5,000 people, and a 110-garh car garage. When he turned 50, the Sultan built a stadium, invited Michael Jackson to perform in it, and paid him $17 million for three concerts. Jeffrey 59 maintains a separate pleasure palace and once owned a 150 foot yacht called the Titz. Called the yacht titz. He named his fenders Nippel 1 and Nippel 2. Love it. And he could never understand why others found that juvenile and crass. Here in a broad, the brothers are infinite [3:28:01] for their sex parties and their heroms composed mainly of underage girls. Yeah, it's crazy. Wow. Wild. Bro, that amount of money that you spend in, that is so crazy. Three billion dollars plus, but that doesn't, that's what I said it didn't include the seventeen billion dollars that he was giving out to people. Wow. I said, wow. Did you mention the Michael Jackson thing for his birthday? Yeah. Okay, okay. That didn't ball and son. But yeah, these fucking things exist all over the place. Crazy. And it's the easiest money that these girls will ever make. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and it's so, if you've got that much money. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. They like it on fire. And the money's coming every day. It's just stacking up, giving someone a million dollars to fuck. And the girls probably wait a million dollars. Just regular sex. You're not gonna show me? You're not gonna show me? You're not gonna show me? You're not gonna give this Cincinnati top hat. Whatever the fuck. You know, I was asking, because when I was out there in Abu Dhabi, [3:29:07] it was like, I was trying to understand some of the cultural nuances, but I added joke about it, but I was asking about the Dubai shit. Did you send me that? Or you sent me the good, I did a joke out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they told me that the Burj Khalifa has a separate sewage system because it wasn't connected to the sewage system of Dubai. So they have these poop trucks that take the poop out, right? And the joke I said is like, well that's why they have to share on the Hoagers' Chess because it's not connected to the plumbing, right? And, but they were telling me like these interesting cultural things that happen out there, like with the license plates have you heard about this? Yes. Where they, the lower the number, the more expensive it is. And I go crazy expensive. Yeah, millions of dollars for a number three license plate. And I'm like, why is that? And one of the kids who's from the world family goes, you have to understand, when everybody has a G-Wagon or Range Rover, it is not a big deal to have a G-Wagon or Range Rover. And people have this need to show off. [3:30:01] Yeah. But if everybody got the expensive shit, how else can you flex? Right. License plate. Yeah. Wild. Also crime over there, almost nonexistent. Yeah. Go to Dubai and commit a crime. See how that goes. Yeah. Abu Dhabi and commit a crime. They've compartmentalized society. But yeah, they're strict, but it's also like that anybody there who's working, there's a working class of people who do not really operate outside of working within the society. And then everybody else there who's not part of the working class has money. So why would you come across? There's also the, did you ever see the vice documentary on some of the people that built Dubai? So some of the contractors, what they would do is they would go to third world countries and they'd promise people absorbing an amounts of money to go over and work construction, then they bring them over to Dubai and then take their passports, and then force them to live in squalor, give them a fraction of what they paid, and they're basically indentured service. Yeah, so the working system is, I don't know how different it is from that even today, but basically like you work there for 11 months, you get one month off, you get paid very little money. It's not enough money for upward mobility. [3:31:06] While you're there, you are working just to work and then send money back home to your family wherever it is. You never will become part of society. So they have really curated a system where those people have no upward mobility. Now, I imagine the advantage of that is there's no crime. Because everybody who's poor there is working. And they know their place, they're they're in danger. It's not simple. It's not like we're taking you from destitute poverty where your family would die. So they're like, yeah, we're giving you an opportunity. These people like, well, if I fuck up here, my whole family dies back home or my whole family starves or my whole family is going to go through some horrible situation. So I'm the lifeline for my family. So they are taking advantage of that desperation. Yeah, 100%. But yeah, I guess what they would dictate, they would say the benefit of that is no crime. But there is a social cost of that. There is a subclass of people that are there. There's always gonna be a social cost when a social cost when you have monarchies. [3:32:03] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have people with the exorbitant wealth and all the power. And then some of them turn bad like Saddam Hussein and his sons, which were famously some of the most evil motherfuckers that ever existed. I mean, they would feed women to dogs. They would find women that were getting married, steal the woman from the marriage, rape her, and then feed her to dogs. Jesus Christ. Yeah, man. Uday and Kusey. There's been many tales written about how evil they were. They were like legitimate serial killers. That's the risk of the monarchy, right? It's like, you don't know if that egg that comes out as good. Well, it's also like having a child that grows up with total complete power. You're gonna have a jaffery, you know? I mean, that's sometimes a archetype. But maybe you get a, what is the guy? Did everybody thinks said everything great? Marcus Reales. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. He just did a lot of psychedelics. Really? Yeah, he was a part of that whole Greek Illusionian mysteries thing. [3:33:06] Yeah. Yeah, he was involved in those ceremonies. Yeah, there's, there's a lot of speculation that ancient Greek society is specifically from Brian Merer's Resku's work. Did you ever talk to him? No, but I read some stuff about there was some, there's certain plants that grow that elicited the same chemical compounds as DMT or some kind of LSD. Or LSD. Well, there's a bunch of different ones that do like all kinds of different psychoactive ones, but they've absolutely found definitive proof of the use of Ergot. And Ergot is a fungus that gives people the same sort of psychedelic experience as LSD. Ergot? Yeah, it's a fungus. It's also fungus that they connect with the sale in which trials. Like a mushroom? Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, it's a fungus that grows on wheat. And that fungus is, it can be toxic for some people, it can kill them at certain doses, but it also imparts an LSD effect. And they found Urgot in some of the wine vessels. So they were taken without even knowing. [3:34:06] No, they were taken on purpose. Oh. What is this? A heroic Greek potion. Urgot was in this drink. The Kaikion. Yeah, that's what they called it. This drink. And so they believed this drink contained a mixture of a bunch of different psychedelic compounds. One of which for sure they know is Urgot, but there's a few other ones that I can't remember that they know we're in there as well. And they found this from studying these ancient pottery vessels. Yeah, your saucer looks like a mushroom. Is that on purpose? I don't think so, but it could. But if your whole idea is, you know, that the saucers and mushrooms do have a lot of similarities. But the stone-daped theories, if the mushrooms that took us to the next level, now we have the aliens taking us to the next level. It might be the aliens brought us the mushrooms. There we go. Who knows? Anyway, but yeah, this is crazy. So then he was taking all that and that's what I was wisdom. Well, that's why he was very compassionate. [3:35:05] He has all these great quotes. I guess what I assume is like in the same way that somebody is writing Obama speeches, people were writing his stuff. So I imagine that his stoicisms or whatever are the collection of the greatest ideas of the time and the way to disseminate that information is to be like, oh, it's from the emperor, It's from the top boss part of it, but meditations I don't believe was ever written with the intent of it being distributed. Oh, so they just found this Find that out. I think that's not right. I just credit him. I'm just saying. No, I know it's and well for sure Definitely he did I mean everybody at any point in time has the information of the greatest minds they've encountered Einstein was talking to other great people and then he might have the greatest mind, but he's still able to. Yeah, it's a collaborative effort, including with philosophy and certainly back then. But this guy, this one guy, his experiences, to this day they resonate. You read your meditations today, like, oh, this is a guidebook to how to live your life in a better way. it's rare that you would have someone in his circumstance where he was raised to be king. [3:36:05] Exactly. Then he would be successful. Yeah, and then his son turns out to be a con. But then they say that was cause of the lead pipes or something like that? I'm sure that had something to do with it. There was something about it. Like, I was, it was at N the forum or whatever the fuck it was. And then when he moved there and he started consuming the water from the lead pipes, that they started to warp his brain and then he went more and more crazy throughout. I mean, this is what some tour guide told me. Totally makes sense. But yeah, of course. They didn't know what lead did, did they? No, they were stoked Shane Gillis. That's a great bit. It's a fucking banger of a bit. I love that bit. But that's true. The literal mold that is teeth were fitted into his lead. He carried lead in his mouth all day. Yeah. Snuts. Wild boy. Wild boy. Yeah. But the country is founded by wild, crazy, crazy people. You kind of I need a crazy mother fucker to found a country. It's not like the most sane thing to be like, [3:37:05] yeah, let's just thwart the whole system, do something completely different, we'll do it on our own. Not only that, but have this failsafe method that exists today to keep someone from becoming a tyrant. Oh, to relinquish the power. That was the greatest thing. I think that might've been the greatest thing a leader has ever done. Yeah. To set in motion this idea, that you're not gonna maintain this power after you have it. Yeah, no one can. What a fucking pretty amazing. Did they have the foresight? Did he write about it at all? Like, is there a moment where he regretted it two months later? He's like, man, I should have kept that shit. Like, he's gonna deal with a parking ticket or something, he's like, fuck. After he gets out of office, it's bullshit. I could put my horse here. Yeah. I mean, I imagine if someone tried to form a country today, how quick they put the caboch on that. I mean, it happens all the time. Yeah, but if somebody like went to some new green land or something, just said, we're gonna set up shop here. [3:38:01] Yeah, the power's a big one enough. No, the chance. You're gonna have weapons. Yeah. What? Fuck that. You're gonna make an army? Yeah. Fuck out of here. Yeah. We're gonna find a reason why you guys are whatever you are. I think you're racist. Yeah, whatever the fuck you are. Yeah, we're going over there. Yeah, we got to stop this. We got to figure out a way to invade. When are we gonna take Greenland already or buy it? Wasn't Trump talking about buying it? You see, he made a tweet, I promise I won't do this. And he had like a giant Trump tower there. It said Trump on this hill. But it sounded like a cool acquisition. Yeah. Like don't they have all these minerals and stuff and there's all this great. Also, if the world does warm up, that's a good spot to go to. Ah. Throughout history history when the world's gotten colder and warmer, people have moved away from the place where we can't live in. Yeah, yeah. Move to the places where we can live. So we got a nice little fail safe. Yeah, little something. Imagine. Little something. We're just all in Greenland. Well, there was discussions about Trump buying Greenland. Yeah. Because it's got a lot of, I don't know. Why didn't know that happened. I think Greenland shut it down. Isn't Greenland owned by Denmark or something like that? [3:39:08] Everything for sale. Yeah. Come on. Are you sure? I just didn't get the right offer. That might be the offer. Yeah. But we've made some good deals. Like that fucking Louisiana purchase was a good deal. What a crazy deal. I mean, how about Alaska? That's a crazy deal. Yeah, Alaska was nuts. Since 1860s, 70s, United States considered or made several proposals to purchase the island of Greenland from Denmark, from Denmark, who did it with the Danish West Indies in 1917, while Greenland remains an autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark. A 1951 treaty gives the United States much control over an island once partially claimed from exploration This gotta be all kinds of shit up to as they could use. Yeah. What do you think about Antarctica? Well, did you ever see that one guy that was on the Sean Ryan show that claims that there's like a direct energy weapon Yeah, out of Antarctica boy that guy seems overconfident [3:40:02] Yeah, he knows what he's talking about. He's a fireman. He's not a scientist. He's like, it's just everything. Yeah, there's something about that that doesn't sit right with me, but I don't know. And also, you know, it's just, it's so hard unless you have evidence, like unless you could show that they could turn this thing on. Right. And what is it, is a neutrino detector that also can be used as a directed energy weapon? That's it, directed energy weapons. This is what they were saying. Yeah, I mean, listen, that's a concept that existed for a long time. I'm sure they probably have something like that. Yeah. They definitely have things that were just theoretical. They have a rail gun now. And this rail gun can go through multiple layers of steel. Have you ever seen the rail gun in operation? No. It's crazy. Railguns, just like from Quake, this thing sends this bolt through, like, I think they did like 10 giant steel plates in a row and it just went through all of them, [3:41:02] like it was hot butter. But is it a laser? What is the material that's actually going through? I don't know exactly how it works. So this is the thing. So this is the rail that is bolt going through all this steel. Jesus. Look at this. It just goes through everything. Duh, shh, goes through all that shit. So what's the last thing? Look at it going through it. Just going through everything, man. Look at that. I mean, it's like total science fiction star wars type shit. So they've got some wild shit. And I guarantee they're working on direct energy weapons as well. Now what they've been able to accomplish versus what is theoretical? That's the real question. And if it did exist, if there was a direct energy weapon, would they tell us? I don't think there was. Why would they tell us? No. I mean, it gets the conspiracies out there, get wild. Like there's pyramids there. You've seen that, and I'm sure. Yeah. But if you also start digging, they say nobody can dig under the ice. Like, don't mess There's like a treaty across all like countries that have somehow like taken a part or claimed a part of Antarctica. [3:42:06] But I think the tricky thing is like, if you start digging and you find animal remains, like humans tend to follow animals wherever they go. Yeah. So are we gonna find some humans over there? And then how does that distort historical timeline? I find a spaceship down there. Oh, Joe, now we can't meet you. Well that that was the thing one of the things that Lazar said is that one of the vehicles was a part of an archaeological dig. But not found it in an archaeological dig, but not in Antarctica. No, it was in North America. He didn't say where. He didn't say where. But he said one of the ships they recovered from an archaeological dig. And they think these things have been around for a long, long, long time. So the people that work with them, like Diana Pusolka, who wrote, what is it encounters? She said that they refer to them as donations. These crashed UFOs, they don't even necessarily think of them as crashed. They think they kind of like let it crash. They're donations for us to back engineer. [3:43:01] They're supposed to take them and go figure this out. And that this is something that helps our technological evolution. And there's a lot of people to point to like the creation of fiber optics that it all kind of happened right after Roswell. And there's these descriptions of fiber optics that existed in the crafts they found at Roswell. So they're looking at us like we're looking at the orangutang. Yeah, here's a stick. Yeah, we figure it out. Go fish with that stick. Yeah. Well. I mean, that would be a good way to accelerate technologies, to just introduce something to them and go back engineer that. Yeah. Figure that out. Amazing how we do it now. Yeah. Well, that's what was Zara had said they were doing with him in area 51 and S4. He was saying, but they didn't know exactly how these things worked. They didn't know how to recreate it and they wouldn't let the scientists talk to other scientists. He's like science doesn't exist in a vacuum like that. You need a collaborative effort of a bunch of different people. And the also different scientists that were working on the thing weren't allowed to talk to each other. [3:44:00] That's a military thing, right? Privacy. Exactly. A compartmentalization thing. Yeah, for top secret clearance. Yeah. But he was the guy that was saying that they were also telling him that we are of farm of souls. Yeah. And that's the thing that the people that know about it say you can't tell people because they would freak out. They'd be riots in the streets. I mean, that was just someone just recently said something like that. There was one of the recent conversations between some top official. They were saying, if people, if real disclosure happened and people knew exactly what was going on, there'd be riots. He would be freaking out. I think we'd be okay now. Well, who knows? I think we'd be all right. We found out that we really are just vessels for souls and that we're being farmed by some super intelligent species that we will eventually become. The farmed thing is tricky. But we're being groomed to become the super intelligent species and it takes time and we have to get there slowly. Yeah. [3:45:00] That makes sense. I like it there. Yeah. That tracks that you would just kind of let us figure it out and let us go and just. You know, Justin, the right direction. Yeah. And that the aliens would show up once we started detonating nukes because it's like, whoa, whoa, that's a different direction. Yeah. Okay, guys, stop that. Don't do that anymore. Yeah. Yeah. And're gonna let you know you're not the boss. Quite benevolent. These aliens huh? Well also maybe recognizing this process has to take place and you can't hold their hand, you know. Teach a man to fish, you'll fish for the rest of his life. Yeah. Give him a man of fish, he eats for a day. Yeah. Yeah. Teach him. You might meet him one day, Joe. Yeah. You might meet him one day. I might already out of meeting will we believe you Don't believe me a lot So one thing I'll lie about I don't lie about anything. I will lie to everybody about that Joe's already been all know That means he's already nothing. I don't know shit. I think it's all fake. It's all Russian propaganda [3:46:03] We need to support Ukraine It's all fake, it's all Russian propaganda. We need to support Ukraine. Hahaha. Meanwhile, it's fucking things in this room with us right now observing from other dimensions. Fuck. Yeah, just making sure we're on the general path towards technological progression, which is what eventually gives birth to it. So there, there us. Yeah, but there are. There are. Whatever intelligent species eventually becomes because, but they're basically on a further timeline. There are. Yeah. So they're influencing their own timeline. They're influencing a similar species to evolve to hit their level of technological. And they feel like that is their, their duty. I think that's just what happens. That's probably what happens in the universe. I mean, look, would we go to visit primitive societies? We bring the wells, we start creating electricity for them. We teach them how to farm. Yeah, so we do. [3:47:02] It just makes sense that they would do that. Especially if they're beyond advanced, incomprehensibly more advanced than we do. It just makes sense that they would do that. Especially if they're beyond advanced. Like incomprehensibly more advanced than we are. They would slowly help us do it right and stop us from making catastrophic errors. And we're fun. We're like dogs in a way. Like dogs are fun. You want to teach them how to send and shit outside. Also, look at them go. Look at these people. We create some good stuff. Also, look, look at him go. Look at these people. We create some good stuff. Yeah, look at him making drones and shit. He's wild. Look what they're doing. Rail guns and shit. Look at these psychos. Hypersonic jets. Look at them go. And still cage fighting. Yeah, we've got it all. We've got the whole space. Yeah, yeah. Slap fighting. Slap fighting is like, that's the bottom. When that comes on to the aliens desk. What they're doing, what? Slap. They can't defend each other. They have to stand there. Yeah. Do they know about brain damage? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the people that hosted, also host MMA. Yeah, they know everything about it. They know everything about brain damage. And they just lay and look, sign up at the dotted line. You can ride a bull, you can fucking dirt bike ride, [3:48:06] you can get slapped. You can do whatever you want in this country. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably what the aliens like Jesus Christ. They probably look at slap fighting and go, oh my God. Yeah. Someone try to tell them not to do that. Yeah, yeah. America's like the way that we look at Trump, they look at America. You know what I mean? We're like, the guy's fucking crazy, but he's funny as hell. That's them. They're just looking at us like, they invented what? Yeah. What about just psychos? Yeah. And maybe all advancing civilizations or psychos. Maybe they all eventually have to become integrated with technology to escape the boundaries and the walls that are set up by their biology. Because your biology has allowed you through in a natural environment to achieve a place where you could be detached from the natural environment with cities and buildings and structures and electricity and power and technology and weapons and weapons that allow soft, fleshy water balloons filled with blood [3:49:07] to go out there and kill grizzly bears from 100 yards. Boom! And you stand next to them, look at me, look at what I did. You know, it's wild, but it seems like that is the only way you get to be sophisticated enough to create technology. You have to have controlled your environment enough where you've stopped all the enemies, stopped all create technology. Yeah, you have to have controlled your environment enough We have stopped all the enemies stopped all the predators. Yeah, yeah Like in order to build those pyramids you need a long time of Safety yeah, you can't build them is at the same time that you're at war right you're being attacked There's a famine. There's no water right you need long Thousands of years yeah, and safe and food and abundance. And then you need a thing for people to do so they don't kill each other. Keep them busy. Yep, keep them busy. Beans. Keep them from fighting over power. Yeah. What if it was that simple? Who knows what it was with those folks? Cause I think they were probably more sophisticated [3:50:00] than we are today. It's just the only thing that makes sense to me, that they were able to get these multiple tons stones down from the mountains with no road systems. That's the tricky, was it the Oswan Valley that they got the stones from for the pyramids and geese? That is a really tricky thing. It's all tricky. Some of them were from 500 miles away. Yeah. They were 80 tons. They got them out of the mountains, they moved them down, they cut them perfectly. What did they do? How did they do it? What are the machines? What was the technology? Was it no technology? Really? Are you sure? Is it just based on what? Are our understanding currently of what happened 12,000 years ago, which is not that good. Yeah. No, we have a like a piecemeal understanding, like a very like just minute understanding of what was possible back then, based on the evidence of the result of what was possible, which is the pyramids, which is bananas. And we're also trying to explain it with theories [3:51:01] that we've kind of accepted to be fact that are really not that much. Like this idea that it was all done with like the chisels and stones. I don't necessarily subscribe to that. Yes. Says who? Yeah. All they would have to do is find one piece of machinery that didn't exist before they could understand. And they found things before that they didn't know existed. And they couldn't understand like, what is that mechanism? The anti-theric, what is it called? There was a computer that they found, this computer in Gears, it was in a Roman ship that it sank the bottom of the ocean. Yeah, yeah. Was the anti-Kythra, anti-Kythra mechanism. That's true. Yeah. So this thing, it's an ancient Greek, go back to that please, so I could read that. It's an ancient Greek hand-powered orary, a model of the solar system, described as the oldest known example of an analog computer. It's used to predict astronomical positions and eclipses decades in advance. It also could be used to track the four-year cycle [3:52:08] of antithetic games. Athletic games. So, athletic, give me a little larger. Athletic games, simpler to the Olympiad. The cycle of the ancient Olympic games. The artifact was among the wreckage retrieved from a shipwreck off the coast of the Greek island of Antichythra. How do you say that? Antichythra. How do you say that? Antichythra? Antichythra. How do you say it? Antichythra. Antichythra. Antichythra. In 1901, in 1902, was identified by archaeologists, Valerios Steyas as containing a gear. The device housed in the remains of a wooden frame case of uncertain overall size, 34 centimeters by 18 centimeters by 9 centimeters, was found as one lump later separated into three main fragments, which are now divided into 82 separate fragments after conservation efforts. Four of these fragments contained gears while inscriptions are found on many [3:53:00] others, the largest gears about 13 centimeters in diameter and originally had 223 teeth. All these fragments of the mechanisms are kept in National Archaeological Museum in Athens along with the reconstructions and replicas to demonstrate how it may have looked and worked. See if you can find what the replica of what it looked like. But, you know, so they had to sort of like figure out how the fuck did they do this? Like how did they know this? What's involved in this? Like it was this ancient technology that existed like a long time ago that they had preserved and held onto. Like what was the creation of that thing? So there's things that we know that we didn't think that they could do. That sort of really throw a monkey wrench to our understanding. Yeah. Yeah. That's just one. That's just one that they found. I mean, there could have been stuff from thousands of years before that. That just doesn't exist anymore. [3:54:02] You know, you deal with erosion, you deal with time, especially over thousands of years, 12,000 years. Boy, you have nothing left. There's no evidence of whatever these machines were. It would be interesting to study like what happened to technology during the medieval ages. What is it called during the Black Plague or what was it called, medieval ages? Was that the term? Yeah, but during the plague plague or was it called medieval ages? Was that the term? Yeah, but during the plague during the plague right where Was there an erosion of intellectual property? Right because they were dying off right people are dying off and do the physicists die like who's we always talking about What happened when all the physicists died right happened when all the scientists died? So was there an erosion was there a step back in our ability to create things during that period? That's a good question. And if there was something that was even worse than that that happened throughout history, like a asteroid or something in the earth, well, that erosion would just be 10 times worse. 100 times worse. But I'd like to look into that. Because you still see great works of art that happened during the mid-A, when am I, is it mid-A? Medieval? Medieval ages? Yeah. [3:55:05] You see these great cathedrals go up, so there still were, I would imagine, they were maintaining their ability to create these great structures. Right, but there had to be a dip in productivity. So let's see what that dip is, and then multiply it by the catastrophe. Right. Well, I think people were just like knocked back into the Stone Age. I think that's probably what happened. That makes sense. That's why you see the emergence of written language and all these different things from Mesopotamia. Like that's 6,000 years later after the impact, probably. So it took that amount of time to recover and build back the knowledge set. And keep in mind, like the knowledge set isn't maintained with the efficiency that we have it now, right? Like you get a couple books that get destroyed and there is physics gone. That's the library of Alexandria. They burn the library of Alexandria. And they're like, everybody's like, what happened? Yeah. I know. [3:56:01] The knowledge. Take a guess. Yeah. Yeah, how they build the shit? Oh, we've we've burned it. Sorry. Yeah, it is vulnerable We take for granted it is incredibly vulnerable. Oh, man We're even more vulnerable now because everything's on hard drives You know, so all it takes is the power going off and we're fucked. Yeah, and how long would it take for the power gets back on Boy asteroid impacts kills the whole grid everyone's knocked to the stone age for a couple hundred years. Yeah, bro You ain't getting into them hard drives. Yeah, you're never gonna figure it out And although the hard drives are rot though the moisture in the air the erosion they'll slowly evaporate Yeah, and if somebody handed you a hard drive 2000 years later you would just think it was a piece of plastic Yeah, no clue that all the time. How about that thing? That thing was just so we don't know what the fuck that was. It was all corroded and fucked up. They don't know what it is. It's the only one they've ever found. I think I'm reading. Yeah, I mean, how many of them were there? It wasn't the only one. Yeah. They probably had a the question they're saying, like what if it was the only one? It's a mystery, baby. [3:57:06] We love it. But it's a fun time. It's a fun time to be alive. It's chaotic as it is. This is a really fun time to be alive. Amen. All right, my brother, I love you to death. Love you to death. Thank you. Thanks for being here. I'm so happy to see top of it. I love it. Thank you, man. All right. Anything to tell anybody? I'll go check out. You know, if you want to come check out the tour, that'd be great. Life tour. We're coming to Austin, actually. When are you coming? April 16th, I think, or something like that? Doing the moody. Nice. Thanks, bye everyone!