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Kevin Hart is a comedian, actor and producer. His new audiobook "The Decision: Overcoming Today's BS for Tomorrow's Success" is available now on Audible.
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You come in here moving and shaking, man. You come in here making deals. You're on the phone already. Gotta do it, Joe. You're always moving. I mean, is there anything else to do? Is there anything else to do besides move? No, I just wanna get ahead. No, no, especially not now, man. Hunters hunt. Yes. Those that don't get eight. The last time you were here, man, that was one of the most inspirational podcasts I've ever done. I left that, I literally had a shift in the way I was looking at things. You put an extra gear in my step that day. I was like, oh, I love being around people like you. My guy. People around you. People like you, you're going for shit all the time. And it's infectious. It's like you give off energy. And when people are around you, they wanna get shit done too. They wanna hustle. It's contagious. Yes. It's contagious. It's not just me putting it out. I think that the last time I was here, our conversation was such a great conversation because there was, we both had point of views, right? And when we shared the point of views, you elevated the other person's POV. Like when we were talking and I was telling you why I live the way I live, why I am the way I am, you springboarded, then you said, yeah, because Kevin, me, I've been doing this and we had this ying and yang thing going. And it drove the conversation. I told you before we jumped on, one of the best interviews that I've ever done and from a feedback perspective with people that just loved what the discussion was, loved the tone of the interview, the things that were said, felt inspired, motivated after. It was just great all around for me, checked all the boxes. It was for me too. And I got a bunch of great responses from my friends. That's when I know it's good when I get friends and my friends are all pretty unanimous. They're like, that is a motivational motherfucker. That dude gets shit done. When people hear stuff like you, like someone who's, oh, excited about life, excited about doing things, there's something about that, it's fuel. It's fuel for Pope. We need that. Everyone needs that. You know, I don't even, this is not a cheesy segue. This just makes sense from what you just said. What you just said is the reason why I did the decision. You said people need that, it's fuel. I feel that in today's time, what people are most selfish with is information. Nobody wants to give information. You gotta ask for it. If you ask for it, then all right, maybe. Maybe I'll tell you some stuff, but it's a search and find. You mean real good information. Real information, information about how to get to success. That's the one from everybody across the board. On some level, everybody's success is different. This doesn't mean fame and stars. I'm not talking about that level of success for everything. I'm saying whatever your version of success is to get to it, information from someone that's done it or that's partaken in it in some degree will only add to the value of your journey. It's only gonna make it easier. It's not to say that you gotta do what they said, but with that information, you're able to process it, maybe use it, maybe not. But you got it. That's what I wanted to do. I said, yo, I got a fucking, I got a life. I got a hell of a life that I've lived full of ups, downs, potholes, cobblestone speed bumps, flat road U-turns, some smack brick walls that I ran into, some revolving doors of back and forth. And through it all, my mental has only gotten better because I feel like I've been in a mental gym, the mental fitness that coincides with life, it should get better. You should get wiser. You should get smarter. You should be able to make better decisions. And all of my decisions came from the massive amount of fuck ups and I can now share those fuck ups. I can now share the rights and the wrongs and the way that I handle all of the things that I've done and people can just take that information and go, wow, I never looked at it like that. Well, it gives them a better view of the landscape. Especially when someone like you, you almost seem like an unattainable person. Like how does he do that? How is he doing that? How does this guy go from Philadelphia to be one of the biggest movie stars in the world? How does he become one of the biggest standup comedy stars ever? How the fuck do you do that? You almost seem like an alien to people on the outside, but then when they hear you talk about your real life and talk about these fuck ups, you talk about these successes and talk about the lessons that you've learned, man, that's fuel for folks in a way that nothing else is because there's a lot of people that are bullshit online. There's a lot of these motivational speakers that haven't done shit and it's a weird thing. It's like they're trying to give you motivation by sort of reciting things that they think are gonna work. That they think you wanna hear. They haven't done anything. Someone who's done something, when you say it, people are gonna listen. They're gonna go, oh, and you're so honest about everything. Which is, that's everything to people because when you're pure, when your words are pure, people take them right in. They come right in. There's no like, oh, this guy's kinda fucking selling me something, oh, this guy's kinda full of shit. I'm not selling shit. Yeah, exactly. I got nothing to sell. I had a talk with Chase, like J.B. Morgan Chase, a partner of mine, and we were doing this, more than we were, we are. We're doing this thing called advancing black pathways, right, where we're trying to cure financial literacy in the black community. We're on like year number two right now, right? And there was a conversation where they wanted to have said bankers go and talk to the kids in the inner city. And I was like, you can't send a white man that works for J.P. Morgan Chase to the inner city of said community, hood, whatever, to talk to these young black kids that has no idea about the life that the black kids live in. I said, what you need is people that have actually come from these environments, they have made it out of the environments, and now understand how money works. Because now when I talk to you, I'm not talking to you with hypotheticals, and I'm not preaching to you about what you should do and what you gotta do. I said, I'm telling you what I did that didn't work. I'm telling you how I fucked off money, and I'm telling you what I didn't know. Hey guys, here's a fact. There is no education that comes with money in the black communities, it doesn't. You can go search for it, there isn't one, it does not exist. There is no one that is outright teaching the kids in the black community how to operate financially, how to set up for your future. There is nobody talking to you about ownership, homes, mortgages, investments, stocks, that doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. It's not until you get out of that environment that you meet some people that are planning their life accordingly that you start to ask questions. It's not until maybe college and on the later side of it that you're with people that are getting jobs in the future that you start to do it. There is no prep or education at a young age. I said, so you need a fucking man that can go there and go, hey man, let me tell you why y'all gotta stop taking these free credit cards. Let me tell you why you gotta stop putting a cable in somebody else's name and continuing to fuck it up. Let me tell you why you gotta stop being okay with not having a bank account. Let me tell you why you gotta stop using the check cash in places. There's nobody giving that information. I said, that's what I am. So if we're gonna have a relationship, let's build it off of something authentic. Let's build it off of something that people can go, I get that. Since then, to go back to your point, my relationship has been based on me telling the truth. I told J.P. Morgan Chase, I wanna go to the inner city and I wanna have these discussions, but let me have them my way. I don't wanna have it in a J.P. Morgan Chase way. And I gotta credit them for backing me because they align me with other people that share the same stories that have achieved certain levels of success that speak to the same thing. So everything that I've done, everything that I'm trying to do, when I do talk about it, I come proving. I'm only talking about this because I really got knowledge about it. I don't got knowledge about it because I'm the smartest motherfucking word. That's not what the knowledge is coming from, Joe. My knowledge is coming from, hey man, yo, don't walk through door number one. I walk through that door. There's a monster in there. There's a bunch of shit in that door. It wasn't until I came out that door that I saw those monsters that I knew the other monsters weren't as bad in door number two. But door number three is finally where you should go. I messed up, man. I went to the first two doors wrong. Why can't I give that to somebody that hasn't experienced those doors yet? Why can't I just get that information and possibly prevent them from walking into those doors? And that's what's really valuable for people listening. Yeah, man. That's what's really valuable. Someone has actually done it and done it wrong and done it right. And like, hey, listen, I fucked up. This is how I fucked up. That means so much to people. You're advancing people's possibilities. I think that's what life should be about. As adults, as adults, we have a job to do. Whether you wanna admit it or not, your job is to set up the next generation. That's our job. Whether you wanna fucking admit it or not, it's your kids, it's your friends, it's whomever. You're supposed to live a certain way, do certain things to set up for the next generation to come and to be able to do better. If you don't, then you're not doing your part. And if the world never fucking grows, you gotta raise your hand and be responsible. Cause you're a part of the lag. You're a part of the delay. If we look up in 15, 20 years and we're in the same spot, what that means that our fucking ground breakers that was doing all the shit during that 15, 20 years, never shared the information so that these new people come through and break new ground. Somebody gotta do more than what the fuck I did. I don't care who it is. But you gotta do more. Somebody gotta fucking do more, somebody gotta break these records. You already released the trail. Yeah, all I did was show you, hey man, hey, they stopped here but I kept going to the left.