The Free the Nipple Movement's Weird Connection to Tarzan | Joe Rogan and Bill Ottman

I see these edge cases. Like we say, look, if it's legal, it can be there, but we still see edge cases where we have to make decisions. Okay. What's like an edge case? I mean, let's see. I mean, there is, I don't even want to go here, but I will. There is a type of animation. Porn anime? Yeah. Yeah. That is very sketchy. Super. Like child porn, animated child porn. And we've taken the stance that, look, it could fall under obscenity laws, so we don't, we're not cool. But, you know, that is a huge debate. That has not been decided by the Supreme Court if animated, you know, kids, like they will do the weirdest stuff. And I just don't want to be telling people what is and what is not art. Right. Right. So like some of that Japanese stuff with tentacles, like some of that stuff is just like, what is happening here? Like, I got like octopuses, banging chicks in every hole and they're, they're choking on it and they've got one in their ass and one of their vagina. And it's all like very, very liquidy. You know, there's a lot of splattering going on. You're like, what the fuck is this? And is that okay? Because it's just art, right? I mean, if it was a person getting fucked left, right and center by an octopus, he'd be like, yeah, I think we've crossed some lines here. That's bestiality. But if it's an image and then the image is a girl with a schoolgirl costume on, she's dressed like a Catholic schoolgirl with a little skirt and she's getting banged by an octopus. Like, what do you do with that? Right? Yeah. Yeah. What would you do? It's a good question. I'm glad I don't have a social media site where I have to make that decision. Well, the real concern would be, is this something that is actually illegal? That's the thing. And we, we've tried to look at the case law and we've seen that this type of stuff has been, you know, called obscenity before. And so we're just not going to risk it, but I, I still, you know, in a, all right, nipples, nipples. Look, right. Did you know that free the nipple started out with, unfortunately, well, everywhere. It's a whole, it's a whole movement. To be honest, all right. Time magazine just did a really interesting piece about a statue that got banned from Facebook. It was a naked ancient statue. That's a nipple. Like, I'm sorry. That's not, that's not realistic. That's not helping society taking down a naked statue. Well, we were talking about the other day, uh, during the Superbowl that, uh, Adam Levine had his shirt off and Brian Redman was like, Hey, wasn't that what Janet Jackson got in trouble for? Yeah. Like, yeah. Why does, why is it okay if Adam Levine shows his nipples and Janet Jackson's nipples are offensive because they're sexualized because she's a woman. This is the weird fact. Men had to gain the right to have their nipples shown in public back in the day. When's the day? I, I, if you, if you go on the, the free the nipples site, there's this go on their Instagram or something. I think that's maybe where I saw it back when I used Instagram, but you know, society is evolving. We're going to get there. We're going to be able to handle it, I think, or give people the controls so that they can only see the types of things that they want to see. That's ultimately what it's about. So like, you should have like a filter. Like do I want 18 plus do I want, um, PG 13, like what, what kind of distinction do I want? Yeah. Yeah. And then when, when things come up, like one of the things that Instagram has been doing is like, they say, I follow a lot of hunters and Instagram has things where they say, warning, this is sensitive content. Uh, nature is metal gets popped on that a lot too. Cause nature is metals and Instagram site. That's all like these crazy images and videos of animals eating other animals and attacking other animals. And sometimes some of them, they just decide this one's too fucked up, you know, like just decide, you know, like this one of them where a lion is, uh, looking out of a wildebeest asshole, like from the inside, like this is giant hole they've eaten through its stomach and it's looking out its asshole. And they're like, yeah, this one, you're going to have to click on your own. You have to double click. What do you got, Jamie? Basically, for when I just looked up Tarzan is, uh, the catalyst for why guys wanted to wear their shirts off. They had like in 1920s, 1930s, they had to wear in pools. They had to wear a top, but look, this only covers one. Well, that's, they're probably tired or sweaty or rebellion right there. That's how they started pulling down the strap. Look at it says here, saucy lifeguards, flash, rebellious nipples. Haha. That is hilarious. 1937. That's hilarious. So is Tarzan, 1937 in New York state's male shirtless ban. That's when they overturned it. The incident attracted press attention as Atlantic said any other waterfronts similarly mandated against man nips with that legal domino tipped along with the help of Hollywood hunks. And you were talking about how their Twitter has porn. Yes. Yo, we got banned from Google play for that Twitter has it. They're up on Google play. It's like Twitter has a substantial amount of porn. You know, you follow like some of them gals and they just want to see, look, here's one in my pussy right there. Take a look like full blown offensive. Well, it's not offensive. You, you follow them. You follow certain porn stars. I think it's against their own terms. Oh, really? But they're just allowing it because they know they want that traffic. Oh, is that what it is? You know, they want that traffic. You know, they want that traffic, bro. Yeah. Um, it's a problem. If you hand your phone to your kid, you know, they accidentally click on that link and they're like, mommy, what's happening with her?