Rogan & Burr on News Media, Minneapolis, George Floyd Protests, Defunding the Police

Those folks, those fine protesters. Joe, there's a major American city where seven blocks, the people have took over it, and I had no idea what you were talking about. So anything that I say, I don't watch it. I envy you. At all. I envy that. That you just do that. You just shut everything down. Me, every day, I check what part of the world's on fire right now. I don't like hysteria. I don't like making decisions with hysteria. When I first became a dad, the hysteria of other parents, I would be looking at them, but I wasn't listening. That's the tone of everything I was saying. You know, better get some sleep now. And you'd be like, and then anytime you say anything positive about your kid, how old is your kid? Seven weeks. Oh yeah, how is it? Ah, she's great. She's great. Oh, wait till seven and a half weeks. It's like, dude, maybe you suck at it. Yeah, how about that? Yeah, you're sitting there with your fucking legs trembling, right? All nervous and shit. Yeah, I don't like, you know, I'm already fucked in the head. I'm already fucked in the head. I don't need 24 hour news. Like who's that guy on Fox News? I always joke with Neil. He's got great hair, but horrible points. Like if his points were as good as his hair. Which guy? He looks like a Kennedy. I mean, he's just, he is the white guy's white guy. He was talking about black people going, and when they come for you, and they will, they're going to, you know, it's just like, what are you fucking talking? Is it Hannity? I don't know who he is. No, it's not Hannity. Hannity was the guy who they put with that fucking, that like rooster at the end, a chicken the end of his life looking guy. Like here's your liberal. Dude, and all my relatives who are conservatives are like, I mean, look at him. I mean, he's so meek. It's like this thing is cast like a show. Yeah, who was that guy that he was with? Hennini and Combs. Hennini and Combs. And the one guy looked like he was on Death's Door, and he was the liberal. He was great. He was great. And the other guy looked like a football hero, astronaut with the square jaw. Nice fucking head of hair. The other guy with the little glasses. He looked like Mr. Burns, right? Yes. And he had no spine. He wasn't a strong arguer. He was the Washington General. The other guy was the Globetrotters. Conservative point. And then you put on CNN, and you got all those fucking nitwits with the Situation Room and all of that. How about Cuomo and his brother? This is why I wish that there was a comedy club, because there's a bit that's already come and gone, was what I loved. Colin Kaepernick, when he was taking a knee, right? All the liberals were just like, well, hey man, it's just like his opinion, man. This is a time to listen, man. And then everybody on the right's like, shut the fuck up and play football, you fucking piece of shit. Don't disrespect the flag, right? And then Drew Brees tweets something conservative, and then all of a sudden everybody on the right's like, hey man, this is just like his opinion, man. And then everybody on the left's like, you fucking racist piece of shit. I'm going to fucking cancel you. They literally do this. Everybody believes in freedom of speech as long as you're saying what they want to fucking hear. It's basically, and that's why I fucking hate both of those news channels. Very divisive. It makes my blood boil when I walk into a house with people I know, and if they're watching CNN or Fox, I can't get past the ... When people watch the Kardashians, it's like, why would you do that to your brain? It is what it's like. It's very toxic. It's very toxic, both sides. And they never see any good points that the other side is making. And every video on the internet starts after the thing happened. And it's like you're always like, it's like you're getting eight episodes in and you're like, what the fuck? It's like, you don't know what's ... Like if you watched the last scene of Josh, you're like, why the fuck did he kill that shark? There's enough sharks dying out there. You didn't see that this thing was specifically targeting human beings and he needed to do this, right? How does that relate to the news? I'm saying when you watch the news, people don't like ... They're not filming what leads up to whatever fucking confrontation happens. Right. Okay? So you're getting a very skewed ... You don't know what happens. You know what a good version of that is? What they're saying happens could be what happened, or a bunch of other shit. I don't understand how I'm supposed to watch something. Like there's obviously obvious shit. That shit in Minneapolis was the most obvious shit ever. That guy's a murderer and those other three guys sat around and just watched him fucking do it. The guy's calling out, I can't breathe and all of this shit. I'm calling out for his mother. It was fucking sickening. That guy's a monster and had the audacity to have a shark look on his fucking face. That guy's terrible, right? But what I'm saying is that thing had all of this ... It kind of got the whole fucking thing. When they came up, you had the whole thing. There's so many ... And I'm not talking about cop stuff. I'm just talking about anything. Something a little piece of somebody's standup routine or a politician says this or voted, he voted no on this. What it is is the shit that ... It's usually the shit that was attached to it, which is something I don't understand with politics. Why can't you just vote on what you're voting on? Should we have clean water? He actually should. Then the shit that's attached to it. But we can still fucking dump toxic shit in here. Then when the guy goes to ... Or the woman goes to run, it's like, oh, this person voted against the Clean Water Act. This is your tree hugger? I'm Joe Blow and I approve of this message. Well, here's a good version of that. Remember the Covington School case? The kid had a MAGA hat on and the Native American was beating the drums and the kid was smiling, looking at them, and they took it, pretending that this kid walked up to this Native American, beating the drums, and was smiling on his face and mocking him. What really happened is these kids were on a field trip for high school. They're selling MAGA hats. The kids are 16. They're being jerked off. They're going to buy these hats and put them on. They're just having fun. There's very little supervision. While they're there, these Native Americans are beating their drums and this guy walks up to the kid and gets in the kid's face and is beating the drum. Now CNN, all these people went with this narrative that these kids were mocking him. The kid just stood there smiling while this Native American got in his face. But the photo of the kid doing that- It's disturbing that those ... There used to be rules on ownership of media. I think way back in the day, there was a rule of sevens. No one person could own any combination of radio, TV, because you can literally influence public opinion. Oh, yeah. That's why ... Dude, 12 years ago, I went down to Federal Reserve fucking rabbit hole. I became a fucking ... The guy you didn't want to talk to. About the Federal Reserve? All of that shit. The private thing. Is this Federal Express? I went down- Check out Island. Yeah. All of that shit. I just feel like in the last, I don't know, how many years where it's just all of a sudden they stopped being just sort of ... Everything they were ... I think reporting was always perverted to some level. And now it's just you're sort of watching op-ed pieces. This is somebody who doesn't watch anything and reads like autobiographies of football players in the 1950s. Well, in this Covington school kid case, the kid sued and won. The CNN paid in amount to be a monster. They were getting death threats. The kid just stood there smiling. And did CNN issue a retraction? I don't know what they did, but they paid them. I don't know what they ... That's why I don't like either one of those channels because of that. And it causes, I think, rational people. Like that guy, the fat dude in the bicycle suit ripping those pieces of paper out of those girls' hands? Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah. That guy, that is the result, I think, of watching one of those channels 24-7 and then going on Facebook and writing in capital letters. Could you imagine if you were there watching that guy rip pieces of paper out of a lot of little girl's hand like that that he didn't even know yelling and running up to her where the mother is yelling, you stop touching her. Get your hands off her. Oh, that was the mom? I thought that was her friend. Whoever that was, it sounded like a woman. It sounded like a woman yelling because it was a little girl. He was doing everything but growling. Yeah. And then it gets to the point of what is in your head that you're trying to defend? That's a guy ... But then everybody vilifies the guy, which I would rather sit down and talk to that guy and be like, let me ask you this. When you watch that Floyd video, what is it that you see? Because just yelling and saying, cancel him and making him lose his fucking job, you're just going to make the guy even more angry. And he probably has grandkids that he's going to fill there before he dies. So what's the solution? Sit down and talk to him? I think that should be part of it. Like buddy, let's just sit down for a second. You were on a bicycle. You wanted to burn some calories. You're obviously into it, by the way you're dressed. Okay? You're enjoying America's great parks. You come across these kids, do you like kids? Have you ever attacked a kid before? They're just putting a piece of paper up with the point of view, like what do you think led up to that level of a response? Because I have to be honest, we've all fucking snapped and done shit. I would like to think I have. And afterwards I'd be like, what the fuck? Why did I argue that? Why did I say that? Why did I do that? And the only way to prevent from you being a fucking asshole again is you have to walk back and look at it. So going at the guy, which I totally understand because it was so bad it was almost comical because he was borderline growling at them. You know it was really bad? He didn't even get the paper from the girl. He grabs the girl, the girl clenched her fist down and held onto the paper. My favorite part was the sound of the bottom of his shoes that clip into the pedal. He sounded like a little show pony. He was trying to growl like a tiger and he sounded like my pretty pony, like somebody should have been combing his hair. And I was sitting there going, look at this crazy old guy. And I didn't think how old I thought he was, but then he was like 60. I was like, this guy's only eight years older than me. So he graduated high school eight years before me. So this guy is almost part of my generation. What experiences did he have that he looks at this whole thing like ... I mean I'm not of that thing saying all cops are like those guys. It's like no, it's like you have to get those guys off of the force. That's what I think. I just don't understand. My understanding, what they were putting up there was specific to the Minneapolis case. So my thing is as a human being, how could you have issue with somebody trying to put something honoring that guy or something positive about that? That's what I was confused. I don't know what she put up. I'm not sure what she put up. It was definitely about the George Floyd protest. Maybe organizing in. See, that's a great point. I couldn't see what was written on the paper and I just filled that in when I watched it. But I really couldn't get over the side of the shoes though. That was really fucking funny. And when he started walking faster with the bike, it was almost like a great movie trailer for a horror film. Yeah. No? But could you imagine- The 60 year old fat bike ride? Imagine if that was your daughter. Imagine if your daughter, you're sitting there and that guy runs up to your daughter and he's grabbing the paper out of her hand. He's running at her, grabbing the paper out of your, while a woman's screaming at him to not touch her. Don't you touch her. Yeah, I mean- Imagine. Yeah. I mean, there's only one response as a father. Yeah. Murder. Yeah. I don't like murder. No? What do you like? Mame. I want him to remember that he did it. That's interesting. That's another level. Start with the blown out ACL and you go from there. Yeah. Beat him with his stupid shoe. Why do people wear- I actually had to look up why people wore those shoes. They clip in. I know they do, but I'm like, what is the advantage of that? Is there an advantage? It's hard. I think it's when you're coming up this way, you can still pull with your legs, so you're getting more of an efficient motion. Oh, that makes sense. They wear those for spin classes. This guy's really into- Biking. Biking and not putting paper on trees. Don't put their dead relatives in their faces. Just a man that would run up to a little girl like that and grab her, grab paper out of her hand. There he is. Click, click, click, click. That's before, but that's before he grabs her, Jamie. Yeah, back it up from the beginning. Now, as far as you with your martial art background, you got to be impressed with the way he's using his bike there. No. He's sort of like trying to be a little heard. Bicyclist of Maryland, Tkadam- what is the saying? Rewind it? See right there. That's where a bison was caught on video earlier, attacking teenagers who were posting flyers. Is that a teenager? It's a little girl. Is that really a teenager? She might be 13. He just runs up to her, he's yelling at her. I mean look, he's towering. Oh my God. Look at her though. Good for her. She- Yeah. See, I don't know if that's a woman or her friend, but that girl's got balls or ovaries. I like the little skip step too, like a cornerback. Well, he's running at the guy with the camera and knocks him over. The man achieves his goal. Okay. As much as you don't approve of what he's doing. Achieves his goal. No, she's still got the paper in her hand. I know, I'm just joking. He grabbed her arm. Whatever happened to that guy? She got three charges. I don't know, but they're promoting my movie right there. Look at that. King of Staten Island. What are the odds? On demand everywhere Friday. You know, I would be in the news with a big old fucking orange jumpsuit on if that was happening to my daughter. Oh my God. That'd be a real problem. If I caught someone doing that to anybody- Dude, you would be like a fucking badger on that fucking- Your biggest problem would be what do I use? I almost think for half a second, like you would be- Say elbow, what do I do? Choke him, what do I fucking- Dude, that spinning heel kick I saw you do. If you ever hit me with that, I have to learn how to talk again. Joe, it didn't happen to your daughter, right? I know, I know, it's a problem. You just went to a dark fucking place there. I go there all the time, Bill. That's a real problem with me. I know, I do too. I go there all the time. I do think, talking about at least protests, I think something really positive is going to come out of this because of the fact that so many white people are also pro- and getting involved in it and so many cops were vocal saying that they shouldn't do that. So I think something good is going to come out of this. I couldn't agree more. I really do. I do, and I hope so too because it's been wrong for way too long and I also hope that a bunch of other groups don't use this as a piggyback thing to then do some other shit which will then- Escalate. Will make people who want things to stay the same, they'll be able to shift focus of how they try to make the protesters and the rioters, the looters the same people. Yeah, you did that and then at night you did this. No. Yeah, the way that ... So I don't know. They're going to do it anyways. I think once the looting died down, you're seeing peaceful protests that are very encouraging. I think it's great. I really do. I mean that downtown LA one was amazing. 50,000 fucking people filled the streets and no crime or very little, nothing I heard of. It was just mostly people chanting and holding signs. They looked promising. The thing that disturbs me is this idea that they should defund the police. You can't get rid of the police. What you need to do is spend more money and train them better and have higher standards and do it the way you do the military where it's very difficult to get in and you weed people out that are weak. That guy was a pussy. That guy leaning on that guy's neck like that, that guy's a monster. There's no way that guy should have ever been a cop. Yeah, because he knew he was being filmed too and he just had no ... He's a fuck. Yeah, I mean that's like hands in his pockets like he was just fucking waiting for an Uber or something like that makes you think- He's a monster. He's a monster. Yeah. You know, there's new evidence that they worked together and they fought. They argued about the way that cop was treating the customers. They worked together at security at the same club and that cop was a fucking asshole to people at the club and they argued about it. They had a personal issue and there's some people that wanted to be elevated to first degree murder because of that, that he did it on purpose. Oh, he knew? He knew that guy. Oh, man. I mean it's just- Yeah. They argued when they worked together apparently. One of the guys that worked with them said that George Floyd was always telling that guy he's a fucking asshole the way he treats customers because he would mace people and shit, that kind of stuff, pepper spray folks. He just was the first guy to use violence right away. Escalate the situation. He had a history of complaints back to 2006. My friend Joe Schilling, the kickbox, I'm talking about him again, but his fucking page is the most disturbing page right now because all he's done over the last five, six days is post videos of police brutality. It's police brutality on black women, white women, white old men, black old men, young guys. It's just police brutality over and over and over and over again. There's a problem of racism in this country for sure. There's also a real problem with people that have the kind of power the cops have that are weak people, that are sociopaths. That's as much of a problem as any of this. You attack the racism onto it and you got a horrible situation, but those people are psychopaths. They're monsters. That guy who did that is a fucking monster. You know, this reminds me a long time ago, I remember talking to a security guy and he said the best guys are the guys that they deescalate it. Yeah. For sure. Because this guy used to put together crews of guys to, I think it was for rock concerts and stuff, and he said you didn't want to get guys that wanted to fight. You didn't want to have those guys because those guys would be a fucking headache and every night there was going to be something and there was going to be lawsuits. What he was saying you ultimately wanted was nothing to happen. Yeah.