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Bryan Callen

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Bryan Callen is an actor, comedian, and podcaster. He's the co-host of the podcasts "The Fighter and the Kid" and "Conspiracy Social Club," and host of "The Bryan Callen Show." www.bryancallen.com

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I wonder how long it's going to take before the human race eradicates that. Because I think if you look at Pinker's work and some other people that studied violence and abuse and all the various things that we love least about civilization, those markers are going down sort of across the board, whether it's violent crime or rape. Those markers are slowly going down. How long does it take before there's none of that? Part of it's, they say what crippled them off here was just the fact there are cameras everywhere. You can't just drop bodies all the time because you don't know. Everybody's got a fucking ring. The cops just go, can we take a look at your ring footage? And you got to make a getaway somewhere. You're always on camera. You're always on camera. And they can do this. They can just follow the dots. Well Snowden just posted something that I retweeted it. See if you can find that, Jamie, about China and the citizens are sort of revolting against this constant surveillance state that's overtaken China. And you're saying over the next 10 years is what's going to be America. Absent sweeping reform, this is the whole world in 10 years. Remember, both parties in the US defend mass surveillance programs. China's advantage here is not technological, but that there's no strong civil opposition to slow the dissent into nightmare. So China is not, I'm sorry, I read it wrong, China is not able to slow it. They're just slowly descending into the surveillance state. This is the biggest one of the biggest. That's why not trusting your fucking leaders is very important. We were lied to in Afghanistan for 18 years by senior US officials. The authorities can scan your phone, track your face, and find out when you leave your home. One of the world's biggest spying networks is aimed at regular people and no one can stop it. And this is in China. Yeah, all in the name of security. There's never been a regime, a government that didn't use that as an excuse. So the Nazis, Hitler, when he became chancellor, took away all civil liberties because in the name of protecting the fatherland from essentially terrorism because a communist lit the Reichstag on fire. Well, what's interesting is how long is it going to take before some version of this makes it over here? Because it seems inevitable. It's coming, but you have to fight it tooth and fucking nail. Americans should always be distrustful of their authority figures. I don't give a fuck how much you like Trump or anybody else. You should hold your leaders accountable and you should not. You should always have a healthy distrust. We were lied to for 18 years about how the war was going in Afghanistan. We spent over a trillion dollars on that fucking war over the past. How long has it been since 2003? Good. And we were trying to turn it into a modern nation. Senior US officials, whether intelligence, military, and everybody else, they knew this was an unwinnable war. I know too many people who spent 10 years over there. They all knew it too. And somehow that just never made it out. Every general kept saying, we're at a turning point in the war where we're going to defeat the Taliban. No you weren't and you know the difference and you knew that at the time. And I understand that there's a lot of pressure and everything else, but we spent all that money for fucking what? And a lot of Americans got injured and fucking killed for it. And we were lied to. I know, but this is what's interesting about what you're saying. This is the argument for something like this in the first place. If you had this, if you had mass surveillance everywhere, people wouldn't be able to plan terrorist attacks. Oh fuck that. That's what they all know. We always use that as an excuse. I know, but that's what they're... That's how they would implement something like that. And they could get something like that implemented in Afghanistan and put a giant kibosh on the amount of terrorist activities. Yeah right. Good luck. I know. I would say good luck too. That's how that turns out. That's why I started in history. See the thing is this kind of tool has never existed. You could study history all day long, but it's only going to prepare you sort of peripherally. It's not really going to prepare you for what technology can do today. There's nothing in history that can really tell you where this goes. I agree with you, but politicians use the same exact language they've been using forever, which is we have to protect the public from these insertions. Here's this danger. Get the fuck out of here. Here's the solution to that. Here's the solution to that. Eventually, there's no more government. Here's the solution to that. What this is doing, it's making it almost impossible to have a traditional government. Because if this stuff starts making it into their...then we can find out what they're doing all the time. So what if it turns out, well, we'll let you mass surveillance on that, but we want 24 hour seven access to anyone who is any sort of representative. Anyone who's a congressman, anyone who's a senator, anyone who's a president, we want 24 seven access to everything you say and do. We want to know. We want to know who you are. No more backs... My problem with that is that then you wouldn't have the best people getting in the government. You don't have the best people now. That's true. It's gone. It's over. You're already dealing with that as a politician and stuff. I don't know if that's the answer. I'm not saying it's the answer, Brian Callan. I'm just saying, imagine. Oh, I see what you're saying. I'm not saying it's a good idea. It's a terrible idea, but imagine if this is what the world becomes. Everyone has access to everyone's life. The way I believe it is, if you want to learn about somebody as a government agency, you got major firewalls and you need warrants and make it fucking difficult. That's what I think. The reason why a country like the United States goes to war with a country like Afghanistan or against ISIS is because you have leaders and groups. Once there's no leaders and once there's no groups and everybody could see everything that everybody's doing, then you have no more need for government. All societies are predicated. You have a meditative resources. You also have to have somebody in a society has to have the monopoly on violence. Well, or all the resources get distributed evenly. All natural resources on earth are owned by the human beings that inhabit the earth, not the human beings that live on that one particular spot. So all the Saudi trillionaires and all those dudes are making fracking money. That's our money, bitch. It's our earth. You're stealing the fucking essence of the earth and selling it back to the people. How dare you? Karl Marx right here, man. No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Imagine. It's just that. But all the other things you could sell, you could sell cars, you could sell this, you could sell that, make buildings. I'm not stopping capitalism, but I'm saying is all natural resources, all of them belong to the conquerors of the earth, which is us, the human beings. You just solve a lot of problems right now. All of it. So no, no, no trillionaire oil barons, no dependence on fossil fuels because yeah, fossil fuels are great. But if no one in particular is profiting entirely off fossil fuels because the money has to be distributed evenly to everyone. The same with solar, same with anything, anything that's a resource, any natural resources. Yeah. But you need minerals. And technology to harness that stuff. You can sell that. You can sell that, but what you can't sell is oil. Well, we've sold on the open market. Not anymore. Not when I'm president. What the fuck, dude? Oil's everybody's. Are you going to run? We're stealing it. We're stealing it. We're going to, we'll nuke the world. If they don't give us the oil, just listen. Let's start fresh with amoebas. This is not going well. Let me be your vice president. You run. I like it. You run. Okay. And then what's our platform? Tuna and the Sea. What's our slogan? How do we grow more tuna? Lead free tuna, you fucks. No more, no more dinner theater. Everybody that works in dinner theater now makes tuna. You work in a tuna plant where you make tunas fuck each other. So we have more, more tuna because we're running out of tuna. You force a breeding program? Yes. Yes. Yes. And you're going to have to filter the ocean. You're a terrible president. No, great president. We fucked up the ocean. There's all this heavy metals and poison in there. We need a filter for the ocean, sort of like the filter that you have at your house. The filters of tap water. Yeah. Right? Yeah. We need one of those for the ocean. Problem solved. It's going to be expensive as shit, dude. Not really. Not when you get rid of music, dinner theater, all musicals. Oh, you use the money. Yeah. I got you. And make those people go to work in a real job. Damn. Yeah. All those people that think that musicals are what people want to see. Fuck you. Really? Fuck you. Go make tunas. Oh, you son of a bitch. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.

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