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Mark Normand is the co-host of the podcasts "Tuesdays with Stories" with Joe List and "We Might Be Drunk" with Sam Morril. Watch his latest stand-up special, "Soup to Nuts," on Netflix.www.marknormandcomedy.com
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He's the, I've told this story before but I'll tell it to you, he's the reason why this table is this wide. Oh, you're just nervous? This table was gonna be, I was gonna make it more narrow. I even had a smaller table that we were working with as a guide. Yeah. And then we were still doing the shows back in LA when we were setting up this studio. I did an interview with Tyson and he was so amped up for this Roy Jones fight that I got nervous. Ah! He'd be in the room and I'm like, I like that extra six inches. That's hilarious. Of space between us, because he was so ramped up. Oh man. When he left Jamie goes, that's a totally different person. Yeah. Because he went from being Mike Tyson, pot grower. Right. Not working out at all to get ready to go to combat again. Get ready to fucking throw hands. Yeah, yeah. He was so amped up. And we've all watched the video where he calls that photographer out and he's like, I'll fucking you kib- I'll beat your ass, you bitch, I'll make you love me. Yeah, I watch that, I'm like, ahhh! He said, I'll fuck you until you love me. Wow, where does that come from? That's an inner demon. That's letting the dude know, he's gonna be fucking him for a long time. Yeah. But it's a weird jump because he's not actually gonna fuck the guy, he's gonna beat the shit out of him. He might. He might. If he decides to, that's his call. That's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is. When he's yelling that at you, he's letting you know, if I decide to, I'll fuck you until you love me. That is like one of the deepest, darkest things a person's ever said to somebody. That haunts me at night. Terrifying. Plus, back then, I mean, he was in his prime. Oh, yeah. That was, you know, post-prison. I think that was the Lennox Lewis fight. I believe that was the press conference for the Lennox Lewis fight. So that wasn't exactly prime, but we didn't know that yet. He was kind of still in the area of, like he had already lost to Buster Douglas. Right. He might have already lost to Evander Holyfield. I think he did. I don't know. Just amazing to this people on this planet who are like, oh, I'll fight that guy. They're looking at video footage of this fucking killer and they're like, yeah, I'll take him. There's a lot of killers out there. I know. They always want to be the man who beats the man. That's what it is. That gives me hope. I know we call it toxic masculinity or whatever the hell, evil men, but it's amazing that somebody would want to go toe to toe with this fucking monster. What is this about? This is a different, this is all eat your children. Oh, this is a different one. Yeah, play this. Play this. Oh, I don't know. Uh, Jmo. Jamie. The COVID has really hurt you. I think you've been slacking since. Yeah. I don't know. Something's wrong. By the way, quite a hog on Jmo. I saw the sweatpants. Yeah. Quite a piece you got there. There you go. Man, he's not denying it either. He's smiling. He's all red now. Look. Oh my god. You look like the walls. He's talking about it. Let's get it. No, get it out there. Get it out. Tell the fans. They come up with a hog in play. Oh. That's like legitimate, legitimate, good to go. Everyone universally accepted the way fake boobs are accepted. Yeah. Because fake boobs are basically. Normal. No one says, listen, you've got a great personality, but this is bullshit. Girls in high school are doing that shit. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Is that legal? How is that legal? Well, you know, you hit 18 or whatever. Oh god. But yeah. I feel like it should be 21 before you do something like that. Yeah. But man, would I kill for a huge dong. How big would you want? Well, you're, there's rumors about your cock and balls there, but. I used to have a bit about big dick pills. Yeah. If there was big dick pills, it would take about 30 seconds for the first guy diving to overdose. No one's gonna take just one. If a pill makes your dick bigger, we'd be thinking like, how many do I take before I get a stroke? Give me one less of that and let's fucking do this. I'm like, it would change the shape of vaginas because there would be no regular dicks anymore. There we go. Here we go. Digging a big dick. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Steve. Mike, was that your shortest fight ever? I've been with you. There's only one God and Muhammad blessed and picked me up on him as his prophet. I dedicate this fight to my brother, Darabam, who died. I'll be there to see you. I love you with all my heart. All praise be to my children. I love you. Oh god. I'm man. What? Is this your shortest fight ever? Anytime amateur professional. Jim Gray hanging in there. Yeah. I don't know, man. Yeah. Yeah. Lennox Lewis. Lennox, I'm coming for you. Mike, is it frustrating to train like you did and then have this in seven or eight seconds? I only trained probably two weeks or three weeks for this fight. I had to bury my best friend and I dedicate this fight. I wasn't going to fight. I dedicate this fight to him. I was going to rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal with him. I'm the most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one can stop me. Linux is a conqueror. No, I'm Alexander. He's no Alexander. I'm the best ever. There's never been anybody's reason. I'm so listen. I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like my from their claws. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah. Whoa. The craziest post-fight speech of all time. Yeah. Is no second place. No, he's got great writers. Holy shit. And even the ways my styles impetuous. My defense is impregnable. It was just bam. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey. I'm from their cloth. He got to there from the easiest question. It was a yes or no. Is this the shortest fight? All I had to say was yep or nah. And he just went all the way to left field. That was amazing. Yeah, that was heavy. That was heavy. Could you be in his honorage? Because he seems like a guy who could just flip on a dime and you're just like, hey, you want the Funyuns? I fucking kill you. You're like, oh shit. I'm sorry. We've been best friends for 30 years. Yeah, I don't know if he would be like that. When I've met him, he's been very nice and very friendly to everybody. But I think when you're a dude that's that fucking driven and that maniacal when you're at your best. I mean, he was, you got to realize like throughout his life, all of his great success came from his ability to be ferocious. All of it. I mean, the whole success of his fighting career came from his skill, his technique, and his ability in the heat of the moment to be ferocious. So he was just geared up for that. I know. There it is, right? This is the other one though. The fucking Tia Love Me. Yeah. Oh God. That guy must have been trembling. I mean, how do you go back to the green room with that guy? You go. You're right, Mike. Yeah. Good point. Well said. Well said. I think you did everything perfect. Let's get out of here. If I was that punk ass white boy, I would have been running out the fire exit. That guy still to this day probably, if he's still alive, probably wakes up in the middle and like, Jesus. He's taking a Mike Tyson over his bed. I love you. I love you. Punching him in the face. Holy shit. But again, like the, in the context of a regular life, that is outrageous behavior that you would never expect from anybody. But in the context of a life where you're rewarded for being the most ferocious and you're ruthlessly successful at doing that, like that is normal. Yeah. Like you look at his fights, the stoppage of Trevor Burbank to win the title, you look at his destruction of Tyrell Biggs and Marvis Frazier and you go through his career and of course, he's got that in him. I know. That's how he can turn it on. But that feels like more. There's more there. That's why he's one of the greatest. I agree. To ever lace up the gloves. But it seems like there was some real trauma, like something we don't know about. 100%. 100%. He talked about that trauma, but that trauma is also what motivated him to be so great. The thing about a guy like him is you can't get there any other way. It wasn't that it was just skillful and just competitive and just unbelievably, technically proficient in the art of smashing people with your fists. Yeah. He also had an extra gear. Yeah. Yeah. Other people didn't have. And he was even hypnotized when he was a young boy. Really? Yeah, Customato, he was telling me the whole story of it on the podcast that Customato took him when he was a young boy. You got to realize he's like 13 years old. He gets adopted by one of the greatest minds in the history of boxing. Right. Customato was a hypnotist. He really understood psychology deeply. And he was one of the great boxing trainers. He trained Floyd Patterson, Jose Torres, world champions. He's in the game forever. And he was always looking for that one great fighter. And he found it in this 13-year-old kid. And he knew right away, because this 13-year-old kid was 190 pounds. 13. Yeah. 190. Jacked at 13. That's great. That's more than me. And just had incredible natural ability and drive and was getting praised for doing something, finally. Whereas all of his life, he's getting shit on and dismissed and locked in jail and all this different stuff. Now all of a sudden, he's getting praised for it. And then he's getting hypnotized. He's getting hypnotized by this guy who's telling him, you don't exist. Only the task exists. Don't fill your mind with thoughts of yourself and good or bad or I'm a bad person. I'm a good person. You don't exist. You just, you are the task. And you move forward and you attack. Yeah. Jesus. When he was saying that you don't exist, like think about just the task exists. So he's got him so focused on going out there and attacking that person. The other person has all these doubts and fears and this and that and all this shit in their mind, but he's trained to think like a local motion, just to train. Yeah. Just coming at you. You're not going to stop him. He's just going to figure out. He's not filled with self-doubt. He's filled with confidence. He's filled with knowing at the end of him, smash you in the face. You're going to be lying on your back and he's going to get that amazing, good feeling that he gets every time he does this. Right. Every time he smashes people, he gets this incredible feeling. So he's dedicated, just like we were talking about lazy comics, that lazy comics can become like actually disciplined when they want to get their act together to do stand up. A fighter is so motivated by that great feeling. Of winning. Of winning. That you just become the more you feel it, the more you want it, and the more discipline you get and the more you drive towards it. And that was him. I know. Plus then you had that guy with all that hypnotic shit. And then fame and then money. I mean, that's a bad gumbo. It's a bad gumbo. And look what happened. Well, he's okay now. He came out on the other side, an interesting person. He really did. That's true. A lot of people won't come out of it. Particularly before the fight, before he signed on to the fight, the first time I met him and talked to him. I met him before the UFC, but the first time I talked to him on the podcast. He was an interesting guy. He's like a very thoughtful person. He thinks a lot about things. But then he's got that switch and he turned that switch on before the Roy Jones fight. As you can tell. Which I think he won. Yeah. If it was a decision, for sure. But there was no decisions. I was trying to see if anybody knew who Mike was yelling at in the crowd there. So I googled and look who was in the crowd. Oh, shit. Live. He was doing it for the Tonight Show with Jay Leno. He's like a whole week of shit there. Good eye, Jaymer. They were talking to tons of people. Look how skinny Dave is. What a gig. It's a young, young Dave. You got to bring this up when you see him tonight. This is amazing. Talking to Lennox. I don't think there's a part where he's talking to Mike here at least. Probably for safety. He may or may not have been the guy who's fucking yelling that. No, no. He's a white boy. Oh, okay. That's right. Okay, okay, okay. Dave would never yell at us. No, no, no, no. I know. There's joking online. He was yelling at Jim Brewer. That's amazing. That's amazing. It's a lot of people are listening. They're like, who are you talking about? Oh, right, right. A skinny, young, goofball Dave Chappelle. And they're playing rock, paper, scissors. Oh, look at that. 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