Joe Rogan - Wolves Don't Mess Around!

Now when you were in Alberta, you went back to that place that you were talking about on the first podcast we ever did Where you had that encounter where you shot that elk that was just outside of that wolf den Yeah, the wolves tried to claim the elk. Yeah, I just had a shoot your way out of there. Yeah, that is a Fucking crazy story. What was it like to be back there again? It was what was strange about it is while we were there I actually found that they were back in that area There was some fresh tracks and then we heard one howl like during that thing So it was almost like it was a little bit weird because Did you guys bring extra bullets this time? We only had my bow this time. I'm sending you this Jamie. Oh, but yeah, the the thing that The thing that was that's always kind of creeping me out a little bit was just It was I felt like I had like a kind of a personal Connection with that alpha male because the way you know, he came in at the very end Because he wanted to know what the heck had taken out three of his pack He wanted like it's almost like he's like I know we're getting out of here But I want to see this for myself because you know, they were close enough But I don't think they could totally see us. Yeah, there so as that was going away The other grizzly yeah, it doesn't look like a brown or a black bear though in the nose Yeah, see how the face is more narrow. So yeah, and then the claws too. Yep. Yep Yeah, which like on the right foot the claw looks more like a black bear on the left foot There was some grass there that made it a little bit Strange but when that alpha male came in to kind of You know, I think he just wanted to know okay what's caused all this this stuff. So You know, I looked at I looked him in the face and just pretty much said I'm gonna shoot you in the face I always every time I go back in that area. I'm like, you know if this old suckers walking around he knows my smell He's probably gonna be like there's a remembers. Yeah, I personally they are smart I could picture him remembering it and saying oh Okay, this I owe this dude. I owe this dude. I'm gonna make him into a hairy turd on the side Yeah, I sent you that that wolf that big wolf shit that had porcupine quills all I put that on Instagram It's funny how many people are like that that is not porcupine quills. It's like listen people I'm in the outdoors 200 days probably a year and if there's porcupine quills coming out of a pile of shit I'm pretty sure I know what it is. It's hard to tell from a photo. Yeah It's on my Instagram. Here we go. It's a Pile of shit with porcupine quills in it Imagine how goddamn hungry you have to be to be eating porcupine quills. I don't swallow wolfs that tough. He doesn't care It's like a bear look at how many bears just will just go head first into a pile of ant like a fire ant bed Or a wasps nest yeah like yellow jackets make that a little bigger please down in the bottom. You can see some nice quills Yeah, yeah, some people go those hair the other it there is porcupine hair in there, correct? But those are also quills. There's there's a couple of blood drops up there. Oh, I need some prep H How we Yeah, they're they're beasts. They're beasts. That is you know I think I think they're intelligent their intelligence level is is super high I think a lot of you know the more you're in the outdoors and you experience things demeanors and their Their ability to survive you know you look at a one of the you look at an old grizzly that's been in those woods for 20 years Think of the experience level that thing has surviving every single day. I mean every day just Maybe making a slight mistake Slipping up a little bit almost getting jacked by another grizzly and then you're like oh yep I know not to do this. I know not to do that I mean they're they're intelligent their intelligence level and their ability to function is extremely high and and wolves are I mean Arguably wolves probably get shot less than probably any of the other animals. I mean they're in they are Incredibly smart so yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt it. You know it was um and there they they were very after that they were very Intent in that area for people to they put up some pretty big bounties on the wolves and they really went after them and and knock those herds down quite a bit because There was very few mule deer like very few mule deer you'd hardly see a doe and fawn They had to cut the number of tags way down Elk as soon as wolves like howl at night if a pack moves into an area and they howl Like calling elk is just non-existent. They just everything's just like don't say nothing because you know they're here So yeah, I think I think them thinning them down was was very relevant and Since then which was quite a while ago The numbers of like elk and moose I like this past year. I saw way more moose than I've seen I think they're really hard on moose fawns and Yeah, I mean moose mule ease whitetails. I saw way more animals this year Than in the past up there, and I think it's just because that moose number or the wolf number was just much lower But there was like I said there was still sign that there was some in the area just nothing like Several years ago when I was there it was you know it was Even I would say as much as I appreciate balance in nature It was excessive, and it's getting that way now like even in Wisconsin I remember I was talking to a friend of mine up in an area I used to live up by Kind of in the lacrosse area actually lived a little northeast of lacrosse by a small town called cataract and There was a few times where there was some wolf spotting There's a big military base here called Fort McCoy And I lived up on the northern side of the base what was called the impact area they kind of shot Test rounds over and they kind of went off there or whatever but there was an incredible number of like deer and things that were In there so you know kind of the rumor was that they had introduced Wolves into their timber wolves to let to kind of thin down some of those numbers well now It's to the point where the amount of people I know in Wisconsin that see wolves is just rapidly increasing and obviously when that happens You know they eat stuff. I mean wolves don't mess around they take stuff down and sometimes it's just strange you don't understand the balance of Of why there's an introduction to something that you know has the possibility to just take over You know it's it's strange. Well it is but it's also there needs to be some sort of balance you don't want the animals Overpopulating and you do want some sort of a balance between predator and prey But the real problem becomes when people don't want to manage the predators right they only want they want nature to sort itself out Yeah, it doesn't really work that way though. Yeah, I mean it just People need to understand like if you do like deer and you like moose and you like all these other animals You can't have too many wolves you can't have too many yeah You can't have too many grizzlies because if you do you're gonna have very few of those other animals You're not gonna see them. They're gonna get wiped out