Joe Rogan | The Stigma of UFO Stories w/Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell

And if you're one of those people like me who, you know, I've always loved the idea of UFOs. I became extremely weary talking to people who are UFO believers and UFO fanatics because there's so many of them that are full of shit. And not just full of shit, they're, they're childishly delirious. Like the way they talk about things that mean there's so many people that are, that I'm in contact, they reach me in the night and they explain to me what we're doing to the ocean is wrong. And like, you're like, okay. This is one of the reasons I didn't want to do the show. I'm sure. Well, no, it's no, yeah, well, it's, I mean, it's no joke. We've had people literally camp out on our front lawn and, you know, in some ways I can relate to some of these people, you know, maybe some of them did really have some kind of experience or saw something and all their friends think they're crazy. But hey, now there's this guy I heard on the radio and at least he knows I'm not full of shit. So I got to talk to him. And so most of the correspondence I get are people trying to get ahold of me going, Bob, you got to listen to me. I'm coming to talk to you. I'm, you know, I'm driving from Oklahoma or whatever. And but some of them are just fucking batshit crazy. And they're, they're frightening. There's a lot of schizophrenics that are involved in the conspiracy world. So there's a lot of people that have real issues. Joe, it would be a disservice to your audience to not say that we have to look at what's going on now and understand I've heard on your show a bunch of stuff about what's going on now and to not really understand what's going on now. You can't see Bob's story in the correct light after 30 years. And at some point we should just touch upon that. The biggest being that things like the tic-tac UFO case that came out, I've heard people even on the show say, oh, there's a glitch in the radar. That's a data poor perspective. You just don't know yet what's really going on. Commander Fraver, I was able to get the interview with him to talk with him way before it became public. I got that from him. He saw it. Other pilots saw it. This is a big thing that's going on right now. They had more sightings on the East Coast recently. Cubes with spherical ores. These are not aerodynamic. And these are the people we trust to defend us on 9-11. Commander Fraver protected Los Angeles on 9-11. So we trust them, but they're not trained observers. Radar, individuals see these things. And the big one, just to throw down so we can consider a story a little differently, more depth to it. The big one is the United States government has admitted that they have been continuously studying the UFO phenomenon. That program was called ATIP, Advanced Aeros... Sorry, was called OSAP. That's the mother program. George Knapp got that out. They announced through the New York Times about ATIP, but OSAP, these acronyms, advanced aerospace weapon systems applications program, who cares? That was the mother program. So they've admitted we didn't stop studying UFOs in 1969 with Project Bluebook. We don't think it's crazy. We actually want to reverse engineer the technology. That's why on your other show, you said, what's this AAV thing? It's like they're making up another UFO name. Well, hold on. There's a reason. Because in the documents, the DIA documents that George Knapp released that everybody said was fake till now they know it's real. They call them AAVs, which is Advanced Aerospace Vehicles. People are getting acronyms wrong. So the reason for the terminology change is so that we can mimic what we're reading in the DIA documents. People can look for that now. So they changed the names to get people away from UFO or UAP, even like Hillary Clinton said on air. Right? What are you talking about? Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton informed the public on Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, Jimmy, we don't call them UFOs anymore. We call them UAPs, Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Right? So she kind of was giving to their, the Clintons are very into the UFO topic. Senator Reid, you know, he, he's done a lot for the, for the subject, the study of it. Right? So she informed the public so they could look for the right term. So these terms are important because the DIA in those documents, they've been calling them AAVs for quite some time now. And they changed the name to anomalous. No, that's kind of misnome. No. So they always mess around with things, but it's actually advanced. Right. But when they're describing it in the news, they were calling it anomalous aerospace vehicles. Totally. Totally. And that's cool. They were also saying anomalous aerospace threats, AAT, right? Because they want the sense of a threat. So my point is all of it, if people don't know this now and they think this stuff is fantasy, this, this part of it, that we're studying it, that we take it seriously, we're spending money on it and that we're getting great data from, from visual pilots to radar. That's why we know it's aerospace. They dropped from 80,000 feet, but guess what? That's the top scope of the spy one radar is 80,000 feet. So the radar system they were using, it was coming from above that. So my point is this, if you don't understand that this is happening, you're just behind the curve because you don't have the information because of the stigma that you're talking about. You're totally upset with the UFO topic. I met you first when you were totally upset with the UFO topic. It's the people. When? When, when you're doing your, I'm sorry, man. When you're, when you're doing your show, you know, the Jorgen questions, everything, I could see how, how frustrating is, trust me, I have been frustrated to how luckily my mentor is George Knapp and he's taught me the pitfall pitfalls as I went through it. My whole point in this rant right here is just that we have to now look at Bob's story, but knowing the facts, not someone saying it's a bird, it's a plane, it's a glitch. They're not. And so if you don't know that, you just don't have the information. Not just that knowing the facts, as we know them in 2019, not 1988. Absolutely.