Joe Rogan on Thug Rose's Future After BRUTAL Slam KO Loss to Andrade

Yeah, exactly. Well, what about Androgyen and Rose? I was scared. I was scared for Rose. It was a really bad landing. Landing on her neck like that was terrifying. That's what scared me just because we were in Brazil too and that crowd was crazy. And everybody shot up and started screaming and Rose was just like laid out on the canvas. And I kind of was just like wanting her corner to be in there with her because she was just all alone about herself. And I was worried that she wasn't going to get up. I was like, hey, you guys wait to cheer until we see she's okay because that can... Parallel somewhere. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, and if you look at the impact, have you seen the photograph of the landing itself? I mean, it's one of the worst ways you could ever land. She's essentially head first with the neck sideways and... Flattened. Yeah, and her neck is... There was no space. Yeah, it's like someone was cranking on her neck. It was horrible. That was a bad landing. I mean, the whole thing was bad. She's going for the Camora. Jessica picks her up. She doesn't lace a leg and she holds on to the Camora, which you just can't do. You just can't do it. You got to let it go. But she's held on to things before and caught arm bars and triangles. And it's one of those things. You make a mistake. So, because I know people were talking about it being illegal to slam somebody like that. She didn't do it on purpose. She just tried to slam her. I mean, she's just trying to lift her up and dump her down. What did you think of her loss to Andraj? That was crazy. I feel like styles make fights. And it was the perfect fight for Andraj to showcase her knockout power because KK is a pressure fighter. And she instinctively will go forward and throw when she is in danger. And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, you know? And she throws hard, obviously. She put Ioana, you know, she buckled Ioana a couple times. She's dangerous. She's very, very tough. She won against Rose. But yeah, I think styles make fights. And that's what happened with her in that situation. What do you think? Andraj is unusually strong. Like freakish, you know, like you see when she grabs ahold of people and then dumps them on their ass. She's freakishly powerful. To be able to hit that single and elevate Rose that way and drop her on her head. When you think about how strong you have to be to do that. It's beautiful. It's beautiful to watch. She's a beast. Great technique as well. No doubt about it. But man, a lot of power. That's her bread and butter for sure. A lot of horsepower. That's her bread and butter. I honestly, I gave it to Rose to win the fight. It only takes a split second though to lose your focus and to get picked up and slammed down like that. And then the fight's over. For the division, it's actually probably good because it's exciting because it mixes things up a bit. You have Ioana who is the dominant champion for so long. Rose comes along and beats her. And then Jessica dumps Rose in her head and beats her in a fight that she was losing. I mean, it's like it's a hotbed of talent. That's really, that 115-pound women's division is amazing right now. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's what I'm wanting. That's exactly what I want. And in the meantime, we just get better. Beautiful. We train and we get better. We feel like what's going to beat Andraj is, I mean, Rose was doing exactly what she was doing. I think that Rose actually kind of got a bit, just a little bit complacent. She's even said it herself. It was a moment of laziness. A lapse. Yeah. Well, it's easy to say. I mean, it's so hard after the fact to try to figure out what went wrong and why it went wrong and what was going on in her head. But clearly, it was not lacing up the legs when she was attacking the kamora. She was elevated and dumped. And I'm sure for a lot of her camp, she was able to do that with her teammates and probably pop off good submissions. But in the moment of a fight for a championship belt in your hometown against a person that's bread and butter is a pile drive. Yeah. It just stacks up against you, for sure. Well, good luck trying to find someone as strong as her outside of maybe Valentina, who she does train with. I mean, but Jessica Andraj is probably one of the strongest women in the 150-pound division. She's so damn strong. So good luck trying to find someone to replicate that in training. Yeah, and you don't train that. You don't train the pile driver. Right. Like, that's dangerous. That's one of those things that you just, I don't know. She does train Valentina, though, who's one of the strongest women at 125. Valentina is a tank. That's a very strong woman. But her style is different, too. She's a counter fighter and she picks and chooses when she wants to go. Super technical striker. Yeah, like, her takedowns are not Andraj's takedowns. Right. You know? Right. So, I don't know. We'll see. It is one of the things that's so exciting about the sport is that there are so many different ways to approach it. There's so many different ways. There's your way, karate style. There's Ioana's way, Muay Thai. There's Jessica's way, Bulldog, get ahold of you, take her down. And in a lot of ways Ioana also showed how to beat Jessica Andraj. Exactly. She showed how to beat her. And I just, I feel the difference with Ioana and Rose is that Rose, because, this is just my opinion, because Rose has shown to have more variety in her toolbox. She's just really good grappling in this and that. That I don't think she's as, she's not as hesitant to go to the ground. I feel like if the situation allowed it, she would go to the ground and even get a submission on Andraj. Whereas with Ioana, she knows what she has to do to win and she'll be stubborn in that sense and do that for five minutes, for five rounds, consistently. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. And I feel like with Rose, she'll take risks. And a lot of times it does work for her, you know, and sometimes it just doesn't. Yeah, and that was just one of those times. Yeah. It's interesting to see her talk about fighting in period, that she doesn't know if she has that in her anymore. Just to be mean to a person, to hurt a person. I thought that was really interesting. Yeah. I love how honest she is. But I also feel like a big part of her getting the belt was to know that she could, you know, to know that she could take down Ioana, the invincible, you know. Yeah. And then she did that and then it was like, all right, well, now I know that I can. And it's kind of like, well, I've already, I've already accomplished what I wanted to accomplish. I don't know. Maybe that's just me thinking out loud of what maybe she might be going through, what might be going on in her mind, you know. Let's say if you fought Andraj and you beat her and you become the champion, would that take a significant amount of motivation away from you or would you have more motivation to defend it? So we talk about this too, because that's been such a huge goal of mine is to be the champ. And I want to say two fights ago, we started implementing visualizations of me being the champ and defending the belt and how that would look like, you know. And this is with your psychologist? With my sports psychologist. And yeah, so that that makes the mountain higher. You know, it's like it's not the end game once you get the belt. And coach Jackson would say that all the time, it's easy to become the champ. It's harder to stay the champ.