Joe Rogan on Stipe Beating Ngannou

You know what's crazy? Like I always say to you, like, oh, I don't mean to pronounce his name wrong and let him got you out, right? Like when he fought Steopec. Ngano. Ngano when he fought my man immigrant mentality like a motherfucker. Yeah, he hits hard and all that stuff like that. But now that dude's still gonna be more dangerous now. He's gonna fucking take that loss and come back. Oh yeah man. A fucking machine. Dude, you gotta think how crazy it is that he went from being a guy who was homeless to five years later fighting for the heavyweight title. This is like a total amount of training. Five years of MMA training fighting for the heavyweight title. And he's the favorite. He's the favorite. Oh, for a guy who's already defended it twice. I mean, it's crazy. That's how talented he is. That's how terrifying he is. That's how special he is. But a loss like that to a guy like that, like to a real champ like Steepay. That lets you realize where the top of the game is. There's a few more things to learn. There's a lot more days to get in in training. But that guy's just begun. He's just begun. He's just begun. Five years ago he didn't know shit. He's way better now than he was two fights ago. Yeah, I see the difference. I see the difference in the way he moves. When he fought over him, it was significantly different. Than when I saw him in his first and second fights. His first and second fights, he was very good. But just insanely strong. He would hit guys with these combinations and clean technique too, man. He's like, he's not just a physically strong guy. He's also very smart. Because he's learning to do everything mechanically very good. It's not like a guy who's only been striking for like three or four years. So they look a little tight and weird, but if they land they got a lot of power. Nah, man, everything is clean. Like you said, some digging those trenches, Jack. Oh, dude. All that type of work gets you tough. He's just a special athlete. And if he keeps going, man, I mean, boy, that guy learning more. Think about how little you learn in five years. Most of these guys have way more time in. Way more time in wrestling. Way more time in kickboxing. The average guy, by the time he gets to the UFC, I would like to know what the number is. Like how many years of training and competing they have. But it's got to be more than two. Like he was like right in the UFC and smashing people. He has an amazing story, man. It's an amazing story. And for a lot of people, the way it ended is a good lesson for martial artists. It's a good lesson. See, even if you were an Inganu fan, you're bummed out that he lost. I appreciate that. I'm an Inganu fan too. But I'm more of a fan of mixed martial arts. I'm a fan of an honest, like, I want to know what it is. Like what is this? Like what's this contest right here? What's actually going on here? What's going on here is phenomenal athletic talent, massive potential. Like a super alpha athlete versus one of the toughest guys ever who's been in the game longer, who knows more. He's wrestled. He's been fighting way more. He's been in the trenches way more times. He's had dig deep. He knows what it's like to be really hurt and tired in a fight. See, I appreciate the strategy of like how do you go into fighting a guy like... Perfect strategy. It was like Rocky against Mr. T. Yeah. That's what it exactly was like. So it was like heart and fucking a little smart stay away from that punch. It had to be, and I haven't watched the full fight. You know, I was working then. I'm on the fucking stage. My brother getting hit by Francis and Ghana with MMA gloves. Yeah, it's a nightmare. It's the worst thing that can happen to a person. He's terrifying. And Stipe got cracked multiple times in that fight. It sounded like he didn't get hit. He got cracked, but he had made up his mind. He was going nowhere. He knew what to do. He'd been there before. That's an incredible lesson, just for the overall... The sport for mixed martial arts in general. And the lesson is, like he figured out... Like he had like the craziest end of video game character ever, right? And Ghana was like the big boss in a video game. They're like, fuck, I got to play against this guy. That's in Ghana. And Stipe figured out how to beat him. Being 20 plus pounds lighter than him. You know, way less intimidating in terms of his physical presence. Although Stipe is pretty fucking intimidating. But in Ghana, so intimidating. He's so next level. 265 natural giant crazy frame. You look at him... What is Stipe? When you're next to Stipe, that's when you realize how big he is. It's a big fella. On TV, you don't look that big. When you're next to him, you're like, this guy's a big fuck. He's a big fuck. What's he walk around at? His asset is his mind, though, Joe. Yes, yes. I told you, don't come on, don't. I've been talking about him for fucking years. We talked about the Wikipedia page. Dog, I told you, immigrant mentality with American ingenuity. Tell him about the Wikipedia page. Listen, American ingenuity is fucking brilliant. And with the immigrant mentality mix, like let's say, you're still an American, but your dad could have called you Steve. No, he could still call them Stipe and Mayochik to remember where the fuck you came from. You understand me? His father came. That's really weird. Yeah.