Joe Rogan & Joey Diaz on Gambling Addiction

You think about how many bets are placed. Oh Jesus Christ. I mean, there's so much money out there. There's so much money out there. People love to gamble. Fucking games when games are on, people love to gamble. What do you think is spent this weekend? Jamie, come on Jamie. But here's my question Joey. Like why is that a problem? Like what's helping us by letting them regulate that shit? Like why? Why does that happen? Why do you have to have a license to gamble? Why? You know, if you think someone's not paying their taxes and you can prove it, is it because it's money, it's cash that's being thrown around mostly? Like why is that an issue? Does the government not getting their piece? Oh. It seems ridiculous that grown adults could tell other grown adults they can't gamble. But you can here. But you can't there. No, gambling is one of those things like legalization of marijuana. Like legalization of fucking cocaine. Like legalization of anything bro. You know what? There's gonna be fucking winners and there's gonna be fucking losers my friends. Two years ago Connecticut did an expose on 60 Minutes about women who have just lost their fucking minds gambling at Mohegan Sun because they installed no disrespect to Mohegan Sun or Casino Industries. They installed these type of slot machines that could just fuck with your mind. Right. So these women were going down there and losing fucking mortgages, houses, you know. Sounds like a John Waters movie. The dog. The dog. It was just something that, listen. That's crazy. Listen, let's get someone out of the way here. The biggest percentage of degenerate gamblers are usually women. Really? Look at this fucking percentage up here. Women go fucking deep. It's a fucking hole. They don't give a fuck about nothing. They fucking play cards. Women fucking bang it out. And they bang it out while you're at work, Joe Rogan. While I'm at work. They start with a horse. Then they go to their, you know, those little toys they do in Jersey. When Atlantic City was Atlantic City, you went to Union City, right? They paid 15 bucks to get on a bus. They gave you a coupon book. And when you get to Atlantic City, they give you $15 and quarters back. So they're basically driving you to fucking gamble and drive back. I believe in gambling. I believe in making a living. I believe that it's an itch. It's an illness, whatever. But when you're losing your house, there's got, that's where. I want to know where. That's where it bothers me. It's just like cocaine. It's just like drug abuse. It's just like the opiate problem. It's just like anything fucking else. It could fucking, you and I both know people who have lost their fucking lives gambling. Okay. You've seen people in pool halls. You see how they get Joe Rogan. There's no difference in the drug addict than the gambling addict. No difference. No difference. It's just as scary too because they're conscious. It's like if you see the drug addict, you see him, he's shooting up or whatever it is, and you see him fainting. You go, ah, that poor bastard. But when you see a guy who's fully in the grips of gambling, trying to figure out how to get his money back, and he's all jazzed up with adrenaline, he doesn't understand why. See, there's gamblers like Michael Jordan. Then there's gamblers like Joey Diaz. There's gamblers who have the means to gamble, and that is a fucking killer also. Like a Michael Jordan. Like a Michael Jordan. And I'm not saying nothing about him but Michael Jordan. He loves a gamble. These are just accusations that you hear that he even bets on his own one-on-one basketball games. He was very competitive. But now, how Joey Diaz was doing it. Not how people... Charles Barkley lost nearly $30 million gambling, it says. Yeah. Jesus, Charles. How much money is Charles Barkley asking? How many people did you grow up with that were like Joey Diaz? Now that had the means that we're 19 years old. Yeah. Okay, and one night they put a 10-time betting on a fucking Nick game, and they won $50. When you're 19, $50 is a lot of fucking money. That's a lot of fucking money. So now you think you got the world by the bull, so you do it again on Friday, Saturday, and now you enter this world, Joe Rogan, that gets dark. It's... Instead of the drug addiction or the alcohol addiction, every morning you wake up like, is today my lucky day. It's like the people who go to the 7-Eleven every day, and you're trying to just get a pack of rolling papers. You're just in a rush. You just left your jit, so you just want rolling papers and water. There's a guy in front of you, and he's telling you, give me three 68s, four 64s, and this poor fucking whatever gives him 20 lottery tickets, and it's $118. This is what this guy's doing every day, seven fucking days a week, my friend. And he might be winning $200 a fucking week, but every week he's getting deeper and deeper into a fucking hole, because in your mind, you think today's your lucky day, and it's never your lucky... I was in that hole when I was 19, dog, and I saw a friend lose 80,000 when you're 18 years old, and he had to get three jobs, and I never really fucked with that again. I learned that addiction. That shit left my world early. You know who's a degenerate loser gambler? John Gotti. He wanted because they brag. That's their conversation. They made it how much they lost. You have no fucking... get away from me. You have no fucking idea. If I had fucking Michigan and the hook, I would have made 30,000. They lose 80, 90, 200,000 a weekend. The system is designed to bury the degenerate gambler. Like, from August 15th... Look at this. John Gotti's secret obsession that waged 600 bets in Scrabble and a $3,000 Monopoly buy-in. You have no idea, guys. The degeneracy... It's a great game, b'lonna. For like seven months, I played this fucking ugly game, Joe, that I would start... I knew the action. I knew that you had to bet on Monday nights and try to win. And you know what? I lost every week. And all these people who sell you information... listen. Arch Leitzer played the fucking game and lost. Pete Rose bettin' lost. Even Michael Jordan bettin' lost. There's rumors that that's why he was asked to play baseball for a few years, because it was a cover-up. Again, I did not write this. This is just things I hear on the road. Everybody has a fucking... Bro, gambling grabs you fucking weird, bro. Weird. And it grabbed me for a long time. I kept thinking that was the day. And I kept betting 40 times. What's up, Jamie? If they had a problem playing Scrabble, they would call up the Parker Brothers hotline like mobsters would to dispute the rules and have them explain what was going on. What's the fucking rule? La Minca is a word. He's playing me now. La Minca is a word, Joe. La Minca is not a word. La Minca is a word. Wiki, but Wiki, Wiki, dude. He told me. He saw La Minca. That's why they were getting the arguments. Garbage man. What's a real word? Garbage man. Cafe. You know... Oh, my God. Bro, no. Gambling is a fucking nightmare. And once you get caught in the web and you and Jorogan shuts me down, then I start putting bets with Jamie. And then pretty soon, I start fucking dipping into accounts. And pretty soon, now you're done. Now you get forced into a bad hand. I told you that I was a backer on the road for a while, my friend Johnny B. When I started making money doing stand-up, I'd put together a little bankroll, and me and him would go places and gamble. And he would win or lose. You know, sometimes he'd win, sometimes he'd lose. But it was just being in action. It was fun. You know, that kind of gambling. I was never good enough to play those guys, but I could play people that were my level, and you'd bet 20 bucks, or maybe if you want to get crazy, about 50 bucks. I never bet a lot of money gambling on pool. But it makes you think more. It makes you play way more serious. It's good for your game. And if you can have a friendly sparring partner, that you play friendly games, like maybe a race to seven for 20 bucks. So it's cost you probably in any city pool halls. I don't know what the rate is per hour, but they got to be like at least 20 bucks an hour. All right, once and for all. Once and for all. I want you to break it down for me. I walk into a pool hall with Jamie. I got 10 G's cash in my pocket. Jamie's my main man. How do I exactly make money? And why is it that the people in the room pass money around? And how does that money get dispersed? It's real simple. Everybody puts, like you put in. I'm in for 100. Jamie's my boy. It depends on who's putting it together. Because they might decide to just pool in all their money. Like everybody put in on one side pooling money, and you know, and back this guy. Or they might be betting on the side. They might not even be playing the game. There's always side bets. Side bets are probably more. Like if you had a bet, if you had like a big pool game, right, there used to be a place called, what is it, West End Billiards, I think, in New Jersey? West End. I think it was what it called, well, see if you find West End Billiards. It was a world famous pool hall. We would take the drive from New York to go down to New Jersey to this famous pool hall that would have these like serious high level professionals play there. And real high level hustlers from all over the country would go there for big money games. You go there and watch people play for $5,000. $10,000. I mean, the best in the world would be there all the time. I got to play against some of the best in the world. They killed me, but I got to play against them. Like real good guys. You just enter the tournament. So if you and I are in the tournament and you are Efren Reyes, like the greatest of all time, or Earl Strickland, or Johnny Archer, and I'm just Joe Rogan, I barely can play. It doesn't matter. I put my money up. I enter the tournament. I can play against you. Unless it's a huge, huge, like where you have to get invited. So now does Joey Diaz come on the side and go listen? I'm putting three to one odds on this. Sure. Some people definitely do. Okay. So that's the side bet. Yes. Side bets all over the place. I don't know how the pool. I got 100 bucks on Archer. You know, oh, you'd never seen this Diaz kid play. I got 100 on Diaz. And dudes will go, I'll take that. I'll take that. And then you just work it out. And everybody works it out. But when sometimes guys will get together and back somebody too. Like say if you've got like a friend that's a really good player and this guy's coming in from out of town and he wants to take a crack at them. Well, he wants to play $100 sets. Okay. And then you have to think how many barrels do we have? You pool all your money together. Okay. We got four barrels. That means if he wants to play sets, we can lose four times. So you have to be able to lose a couple, gain a couple. Like if you're going to really play a guy out, these guys would play 10, 12 hours. Then we keep going back and forth and back and forth. It's crazy. Like I've seen guys and you would see them the next day. They'd still be playing. You'd go there in the morning. They'd be playing all through the night. I don't know what the fuck they were on. Most likely some sort of amphetamines. That was a big thing in the pool world for a while. Guys would just break each other with gambling. It would just be about who quits. It wouldn't be about who won. It's very rarely about like, you know, like you would be, you would be frowned upon highly if you left on top. So if you're ahead by $500 and you want to quit me and I'm still ready, ready to keep playing. I still got more money, man. Let me win my money back. If you just walked away, nope, I've got what I wanted. I'm going to leave now. Like that would be, you'd be, it's called bad action. Guys, I got two kids. I got to get up to seven and go. Shouldn't be on the pool hall motherfucker with two kids. You're not playing that kind of pool. There ain't nobody with two kids playing that level pool in pool halls, like gambling and hustling. Maybe now there are. There's actually a few guys. I take that back. There's a few guys with kids that are top of the food chain. There's a pool hall mouth on my house. Whenever I get, whenever I go into Hollywood, now I can't do low recreating no more. So I got to go the long way and I get off on victory just to see it. Fucking always fell with degenerates. I'm petrified to pull in there. Some places were home to me. You know which one I'm talking about, right? Next to the strip club. Is that a good one? Is that on victory? Right when you exit that. There's a strip club right next to a pool hall. Well, I know the only good one in this area, well, I shouldn't say the only good one. The only good one I know of is House of Billiards and Sherman Oaks. I like this area. Have you been on the 101? Have you seen what that place is? You took me there a couple of times to eat. We did comedy there. Remember Hollywood Billiards? You took me there with Hollywood Boulevard. Yeah. It's fucking a building. What is it now? The goal there next time. What does it look like? I don't know. Next time I drove by and I was like, Oh my God, that used to be, we did comedy there. Dude, we did comedy there. We did comedy there. We eat there with our army a couple of times. We played pool there a bunch of times. A bunch of times. A bunch of times. That place was great. It's fucking done. That whole area is completely done. That's where I met crazy Max Eberly. Really? Yeah, that dude can play some fucking pool. Whoo. So when you play Max Eberly, how much will happen to the put up guy? I still put him on the line. Yeah, I would get tortured. You would have to bet like that I would go to, you're never going to bet on me. Like a guy like Max Eberly, he's top of the food chain as far as his technique and delivery. He could win a world championship tournament. Like legitimately, he's that good. I have no chance. Like if we play 12 games, I might win a couple. I might get lucky and win a few. Maybe I'll win four. He's going to win way more. He's going to get to 12 for sure quicker. It'd be a terrible bet. The bet would be how many games do I get to? That would be the bet. If you say you'll never get past three, because a guy like Max Eberly can run 10 racks in a row and I'm not exaggerating. I've seen him do it. Blam. Breaks runs 10 racks in a row. To the point where you're sitting there. He did it in Vegas. We were all hanging out. I think it was, man, was it Ari? I forget who came with me. Actually, you guys are going to the Italian place. Yes. That place is amazing. And that's exactly where Max is playing. He would break and run out on guys and they would just get frustrated. They'd be like, what the fuck, man? They just didn't get to shoot. We watched him. He was gambling some guy. And when the set was over, the guy was just pissed off. Because Max just wouldn't miss. It was crazy. Just watch him. He's playing a guy that really just wanted to take a chance and play like a top of the food chain guy and he gambled with him. But just watching the difference between a kid who can play a little pool is pretty good versus a world championship caliber pool player. They're so precise. Like his technique is so clean and his angles are perfect. And he's just effortlessly moving the cue ball on the table to where he wants it. He sees clusters and problems way in advance and breaks them up. It's so high level. That's my boy. That's Max Alberly. He taught me how to play pool. Not that I didn't already play it before I met him, but he taught me how to play it way better, way better. He made my game way more technical. He was explaining things that I was just guessing before and he was explaining what was wrong with my approach and like what's a better way to do it. He's a wizard when it comes to technique. Now he can make a living going from pool hall to pool hall or no way because he's that good. Well, he's an artist too, fortunately for Max. He makes pretty cool artwork. Like a lot. You see some of it's probably on his Instagram. I thought he just pool cue'd or something. No, no, no, Max. Who's our friend that does pool cue? Who does pool cue? Somebody along the way said he makes like fucking 8G pool cue, ivory. Eric Crisp. That's my boy Eric from Sugar Tree. There you go. Some way. That's what I play with. I play with his cue. His cue is he's a wizard, man. He's a guy who's like really into like the grains of woods. He's really into like patterns and he thinks of like to him wood is like mesmerizing. He finds like the most beautiful pieces of wood and combines them together and they have to have a certain harmonic frequency. Like he drops them on the cement floor just like dink, dink. Like he wants to hear a certain sound from the wood. Otherwise he won't use it. He's like finding logs on the side of the highway and shit and recognizing some weird hardwood that no one's ever used before and he cuts it up and makes a cue out of it. He's a wizard. Like his cues are for Danny. He doesn't give a fuck. He makes as many as he wants. You know, sometimes you don't make them for a while. Makes them for his friends. Won't let me pay for one. I have to pay for everything just to not feel terrible. He's like the nicest guy ever. Play some fucking pool too. So I don't even know when this podcast started and it began. It's happening. But it's funny before we started we were talking about yeah 4.8 billion. Oh my God. The Super Bowl. 3% will happen in Nevada. That's it. Only 3%. So is most of it online? Online. What's that Chris Christie thing you pulled up earlier Jamie? Listen Gee, online and banks. Banks. There's still people who are like you know, they got a ton of loot. Chris Christie goes to the Supreme Court on sports betting. Is he trying to get sports betting legalized? They passed something in New Jersey I think in 2011 to allow betting in sports but it's still only allowed in Vegas because of whatever law there is. I'm back on your team Chris. Yeah. Alright. So he has a Supreme Court case. Might have a few problems but we all do. There's 17 states also with him on this. I think they want to do it. The way they want it. So he opposed it or he's... They want it again. They want betting again because they have an NHL team in Vegas and that's always been like the logic is that there'll be some issue. Whatever. You can't be betting where there's sports being played because someone will throw the game. Everybody should be able to bet. Every city. You should be able to do whatever you want.