Joe Rogan on Mel Gibson & Stem Cells

People get real mad by the way they're gonna get mad at you for chewing on the mic. Can't be more annoying than Mel Gibson's freaking pen. I almost shot myself in the face for that freaking thing. I couldn't say anything to him. He's sitting over here. Dude, Mel Gibson is a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He was. But he's fried. There's a circuit that just hit an overload and there's a black area where it used to be connected to the motherboard. I don't know. Well, you know more than me. Nice guy. What's funny is, you know my, one of my followers is the brat of all brats. He does all this funny. I heard that guy on your podcast. That was a great podcast by the way. He made that yesterday, which is kind of hilarious. John Dudley, Death Dart. Your face over Mel Gibson. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, it was funny. But yeah, whatever that pen was, my God. People can't see that coming. That was terrible. Yeah, well, you know what it was? I just don't think you could just sit and chill. And when Dr. Neil Reardon was discussing all this really heavy duty scientific stuff in regards to stem cell research and all the different, I mean, he's had, I mean, one of the reasons why he came on. He wanted to come on the podcast and people are like, why didn't you ask him about his wife? Why didn't you ask him about the, that's not what he was here for. I'm going to be respectful to the guy. I'm a fan of Mel Gibson. He's a nice guy. So what he asked is he said, can I come on the podcast and talk about the stem cell research they're doing in Panama and the treatments that they gave to my dad at 92 years of age. Now he's thriving at almost 100 years. It was a great podcast. And you know, I'm a believer in stem cell because you actually introduced me to Dr. Adi McGee in Las Vegas. Save, I mean, potentially you saved my archery career. Well, it's certainly potentially saved you from surgery. If I will, yeah, and surgeries are fricking hit or miss, right? So that's what I'm saying. I was lucky with my shoulder surgery that I got out of there. Good. I know a lot of guys that are into their third one for the same type of thing, but literally I got three injections the first time and went back for a second round because I think one of my tears didn't take and literally I took completely avoided surgery because of Dr. McGee. And we should talk about this because I don't know the exact specifics of what it was called, what the original treatment was called, but the original treatment that you and I both got is no longer. Baby dust. We were calling it baby dust this past weekend, but it's not available anymore. It's because they believe this is what they're trying to make it legal, but it has to go through a series of, there's a whole process that has to get it passed because they've declared it a drug because you take the, is something about umbilical cord stem cells, you take them and convert them and then that somehow or another the, in during the process, they believe it's become a drug. Whatever that drug is, I had a full length tear of my rotator cuff. Now this is from an MRI full length tear of my rotator cuff. It was painful. It was a real problem. Dr. Roddy McGee in Las Vegas, Nevada shot, whatever that baby dust is in there, it gave you some, and the most recent MRI that I got, which is over a year from his original treatment, but I knew that it felt a lot better, but I have, I just haven't got it checked. It's gone. Funny enough. I was with you both times, right? The first time, which I mean, I didn't say anything about, but you had, you had been struggling to shoot a lot because you know, you had just, it's wearing tear. I mean, the bottom line is it's wearing tear over life, especially with you and I, we do a lot of active stuff, but for you to go back and you and I went in together last week. And when he said, he looked at you with his confused face and said, yeah, hey, a new MRI, that tear is healed. That's fricking massive. That's massive. That's the tear that would have normally absolutely required surgery, or I could have just been in pain with an unstable shoulder. You know, one, one of the things that I'm realizing is that over the years of essentially being engulfed in martial arts, most of my adult life and even into my teenage years, like at 15, I became the fanatic. Like from then on martial arts has always been a part of my life. I've done some ruthless shit with my joints. Both of my knees have been reconstructed. I've had some real problems with my neck in the past, both of my shoulders have caused some problems. It's just explosive, crazy shit. Your arms are getting yanked in weird directions. Your foot windmills, that stuff. That's the easiest stuff. That's probably what saved me. All that big, I really think that saved me because that's shoulder stability because that's controlled. You know, all that stuff that I'm doing, that's all strengthening all these muscles around it. And that doesn't bother me. That doesn't give me any pain. What would give me pain is like off angle punches. Like you land on someone's elbow in a weird way and you feel something go. I hurt right now even thinking about that. Or getting caught in something like kamora and not tapping. I've done that a bunch of times. Like a shit head. You're a meat head. You don't want to tap, but you got to tap. But you don't want, you like, there's got to be a way to get out of this without tapping and then you get out, but then you can't do chin ups for like three months. That's happened 30 times in my life. No joke. Like where I didn't tap and then I was fucked up for a few months and I would tape everything up and keep rolling. Well, you hooked me up with Damian in Des Moines for 10th Planet and I really wanted to do jujitsu classes with him, but I'm so afraid to do it in a class because for me, my arms are my career. Right, right. And I mean, it would literally be like turning a light switch off in your room. My friend Max Eberle, he's a professional pool player and he said the same thing. He was really interested in trying jujitsu, but he's so scared of getting locked in an arm bar and fucking his elbow up or shoulder up and then he wouldn't be able to play. Well, it's a real legitimate concern.