Joe Rogan - Michael Malice: I Don't Believe in Voting


5 years ago



Michael Malice

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Michael Malice is a cultural commentator, host of the PodcastOne podcast "YOUR WELCOME," and author of several books, including "Dear Reader: The Unauthorized Autobiography of Kim Jong Il," and "The Anarchist Handbook." His newest, "The White Pill: A Tale of Good & Evil," is available now.


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I mean, look at Gabby Giffords in Arizona. I mean, I don't believe in voting, but she had this tweet about like how she went on and voted and I couldn't think of a better pro voting argument that she kind of like, look, you know, you don't believe in voting. No, I don't believe voting. Yeah. What does that mean? I don't believe in voting. What do you mean? I don't think it's I don't do it. I don't. I never wrote an article about it for The Guardian. I just don't think it's legitimate voting democracy. In what way? In any way, like the idea that I flick a switch and someone gets to talk to me for four years, talk for me for four years, doesn't make any sense. What do you think the alternative should be? Freedom. If I want someone to speak for me, I'll hire them. And the idea that me and my neighbors have to be locked into some polity because we're geographically close to each other is landline technology in a post-self-owned world. So how do you think things should be run? You organize based on who you want to align with on any given context. Like I'm aligned with Macy's when it comes to my clothes and I'm aligned with you when it comes to talking. You don't have to have one guy speak for you for abortion and for the borders and for taxes. I mean, I don't believe in any of that stuff. This is a very old, old model. I agree that it's a very old model, but the problem is we don't have any other one. Sure we do because 99% of our interactions are voluntary. And you come together with people as you need to, and then you go your separate ways, and it's very, very dynamic. So this idea that you're stuck with this person because a lot of people like him for four years and they speak for you, it makes no sense to me. It does not make sense, but it's also we feel like we need some sort of a representation of us if you're going to have some sort of a summit with a guy like Putin or someone, Kim Jong-un or whatever it is, whoever it is. Someone needs to speak for us. Sure, right. And I mean in a sense it is a reaction. But the point is I don't – a vast majority of people in this country are not a vast. A lot of people say Trump's not my president. He doesn't speak for me. And they have a right to say that. And the idea that just because someone wins a contest, therefore he's the boss of me. What do you think about voting when it comes to legitimate concerns like raising the speed limit, reducing taxes, doing this, doing that, like fixing roads, like certain things that we need to get done? I don't do it. I mean that makes more sense to me because it's a direct representation, but even that shouldn't be up to majority rule. I mean people who understand the dynamics of speed limits in cars should have an informed say rather than – Right, but then there's influence by insurance companies and this is why rates – this is why things change and seek out laws. Sure, but insurance companies are the ones who have the campaigns to force people to vote one way or another. It's going to be one side is going to have much more – like marijuana laws and all these tobacco and alcohol companies trying to make sure that marijuana is not legal and all this propaganda that you have because they don't want competitors. Wouldn't you rather have people be high than drunk? Like if dad's coming home from work, I'd rather he had a joint than a six-pack. I mean – and yet historically it's just because alcohol has been popular. That's what's legal. It makes no sense. No, that doesn't mean – And drunk driving versus driving stoned. I mean one guy is going too slow. The other one is – Well, one's got probably paranoid too and checking every mirror, checking the back, check the front. That cool, that cool. Drive slower, slow down, keep it together, stay in the lines. Yeah, I don't think that the system that we have now is great, but to just not participate at all – Well, I do participate. Obviously if I'm a public figure and I'm talking, nobody is participating. So just discourse. Yeah, to some extent, yeah. I mean I don't think the idea that you're flicking a switch means you're actually making a difference. I think if you're doing something in secret once every four years, you're not actually participating. That's something people like to tell themselves. It's like getting a communion wafer.