Joe Rogan Looks Back on Ronda Rousey Losing to Holly Holm

Yeah, yeah, yeah Crazy sport Holly Holmes amazing. She is because as a person I've never met her but she's the sweetest person ever She seems really sweet and she just seems like I was listening to her Interviews, you know, it's just man. She seems just like a really uplifted genuine Person, you know a super humble, you know, she really is which is one of the weirdest moments Why it was such a weird moment rather when Rhonda Rousey at the Wayans was like you fucking bitch yourself You're a fucking fake and yeah, and it was weird It was like almost like she wanted her to be the enemy Yeah, she'd get amped up to kick her ass. So she was saying a bunch of things that didn't even make sense Maybe and Rhonda was kind of at a breaking point to just as far as like workloads stress level Expectations, you know obligations and When I saw that way in actually I I've watched that probably at least five times like I just replayed it one because I like to watch people Interact and how they react. I love it. Yeah, and I noticed like When I saw that I'm like, oh Holly's got this And I wish I'd fucking bet money But I was watching I was like, oh just thought because Rhonda seemed so emotional. Um, it was the way Holly reacted That's why hmm. She just she's just like Rhonda came in her space Holly just like Stepped back like kept proper distance, you know, like defensive distance and super super low-key watch her reaction Yeah, she stayed calm for sure yeah, that's that's skinny Rhonda to that's way in Rhonda Like she's depleted. Yeah. Yeah, she was kind of she was to look how much different ways that when she's weighing in but they They tied up and Holly didn't give any ground either She's just like she stayed calm. She she backed up but like she backed up like I'm ready to hit you Mm-hmm backed up. She didn't back up like uh, and then so Rhonda was super like Emotional to she was funny. She was like I was just trying to get a drink. Yeah, I Just thought I was having a drink. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. And then Rhonda was like, I just She was super Right. I think you never saw her like that. You're like what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah I think you nailed it as far as the breaking point Yeah, she got sucked into all the Hollywood bullshit They were putting her in movies and TV shows and she was on different talk shows What is the hype to like? Oh, could she be Cain Velasquez? Could she you know, it's like Oh my god, look what she's doing to these women could she remember that right? Yeah, there's like, right Wow, they created a huge star, you know, look I was a part of it is she is now She's a superstar now. She's a WWE superstar. It's just a different kind of superstar. You think she should yeah Don't go out like that. This is Miriam talking though. It's a different person She's She deserves better than to go out the way, you know her last fight well She deserves she's actually what she got. She's no no. This is what I think she's better than that I think you're right. I think you're right that she's better than I'm not saying oh, it's bad that she got punched like that No, no, no, no. No, I'm saying she she does she deserves better than that to like represent herself Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I don't think that matters to her as much as it matters to other folks I think she really cemented her legacy is one of the greatest women's MMA champions ever and a pioneer but I also think that Women's MMA has evolved so fast That within the brief time that she was running shit the sport passed her by and when you see The one that I was always worried about with her was Amanda because I was like Amanda Nunez has a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and nasty hands like to me. Yeah, too, right I think she has some judo. I don't know what her ranking. She's not I don't know she could be But I know she's a black belt in jiu-jitsu and I know she had heavy hands and my thought was that Rhonda Although she was developing good striking skills. She's known for a judo in her arm bars That's her big thing and the striking skills were sort of like something that was happening along the way And she was starting to catch girls, but she was catching girls like Betts Kohaya and you know and Davis Yeah, but and and beating them down when she gets them down. They're not Nearly on the level of an Amanda Nunez like you're not gonna catch her like that Oh, she right exactly and my thought was that if if it was gonna go down It was gonna be Amanda because Amanda just hit so fucking hard And then so when she came back and immediately fought for the world title against Amanda She needed a gimme fuck. Yeah, she needed well She needed a different camp and I think that's fair. She needed a lot. She needed a revamping of her approach She need a lot of things. Yeah, she did a lot of things because people knew first of all, she never shoots for doubles She's not taking you down with the lower body attack It's always upper body and it's always a clinch and she clinches with her left arm I mean Greg Jackson and Jackson Winkle John they all figured that out and Holly had the solution for that Yeah, yeah, you know and also this other thing is when you get fucking head kicked into oblivion that way Like you need a lot of time off a lot of time with no sparring no nothing Especially just being so high like being so untouchable and high and then getting coming crashing down to earth like that So it's rough. That's a definitely like a big who am I moment? I think I'm sure yeah Well like it is a whole world to write what you were talking about you Trying to figure out who you are when you couldn't train anymore Yeah, and I had that on such a like small scale a private Private skill and her personally but private. Yeah. Yeah, and hers is the world Yes, and like in the whole world and mine was like more tragic and hers was more humility humiliating You know, how was yours more tragic? It happened in third round of a fight world how to fight MMA It wasn't a clear like it happened on a takedown it wasn't a takedown that Twerked or tweaked my knee or grabbed on my knee or it was I pushed against them while my body was like this Parallel to the ground and I tore my own easy. Oh Yeah, so it was like why is that more tragic? Because it was more like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I think it's more humiliating to get Knocked out in my opinion to get knocked out sure than it is to get like injured out like like tear tear out Like still fighting and then you step back and you everything slips and you fall right because your knee can't it's gone Yeah, you know, that's what I mean when I say tragic or if you're like winning the winning the fight And then unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's more unfortunate and then your identity stripped away But again yours is private hers is public but at least you understand what it's like to not be that Person who you you counted on you being that person as part of your shield that you put on to go through the day Yeah, for sure for sure. Yeah, you know, yeah Yeah, her persona Um, she's damn good at it too and then it's like stripped away