Joe Rogan - John Joseph on His Journey

to do this. If you had a beef with somebody, you didn't go on fucking social media and talk a bunch of bullshit. You fucking walked up to the person and you said, hey, here I am and what the fuck? Let's deal with this. Let's talk about it, talk it out. But now you got people buying followers and doing other. It's just that it's you know, it's just the most toxic environment in a lot of ways and it's a shame because it could be used and that's why I never post negative shit. I try to use the platform, you know, make lighter shit, not have a stick up your ass. There's too many people that do even the plant-based vegan thing and everything's so fucking serious. I'm like, you might reach more people if you lightened up, you know, like, like stripes, lighten up Francis, you know. Yeah, if you say you eat meat, I'll kill you. Well, you did write a book called Meat is for Pussies. I'll tell you how that came about and actually I got attacked. I'm gonna tell you something else. You want to talk about destroying people. I got attacked more by the vegan feminists for that book fucking tried to destroy me. They wrote everybody because I wrote Pussies. Now first of all, and then she went on a blog and called me a misogynistic. I said, yeah, I like misogynistic. But you know, call me a misogynistic scumbag and a fucking piece of shit and all this. So I just had, I just wrote, hey, any of you ladies that bought this book for their fellas and it helped them, please fucking holler at this fucking woman and tell us something. They shut her fucking blog down. And then she called me a maniac and I said, listen. She called you maniac because you sent people on her the way she sent people on you. But dig this and then I said we have a saying on the streets of New York back in the day, don't start none and there won't be none. So I said, you know. But the thing was, I'm gonna tell you how that book title came about because it was a woman actually Karen Rinaldi from Harper Collins wave. And what happened was I was training at Crunch. Aaron Dragozunowski is my trainer and he's got me through all my fucking Ironman's everything. I was a fucking broken up person, injuries, all this shit. So I'm work, I was working at Crunch and training with him. And then another person, a friend of mine, all the five points guys used to be there. You would see them all. They had a ring on the second floor. So this guy was doing pad work and I'm telling him, hey, you know, listen, man, you got a fight coming up, man. Get on the chlorophyll, get on the wheatgrass, get on, you know, eat as much recovery foods as you can. That's going to fight inflammation. So some fucking mama Luke with fucking 1980s tiger striped pants, fucking. Yeah, fucking, you know, you like he just took everything out of context. And then he's like, yeah, fucking people that don't eat meat, fucking pussies. And I'm like, yo, you got like 50 pounds on me, but if you want to put some headgear and get in the ring, I'll oblige you. He's like, what? I said, I don't eat meat, bro. And then the funny shit with the whole book title was it was going to be called The Grow Green Road to Health, Fitness and Longevity. And my business partner, Todd Erwin goes, motherfucker, who are you? Dr. Oz, nobody wants to hear that book from you. You're John Blunt, Clyde Joseph, singer from the Crow mags they want. And then I was and then I said, yeah, I said, yeah, this motherfucker was like, you know, saying fucking people that don't eat meat or pussies. I'm like, motherfucker, that dude ain't probably ain't seen his dick in fucking 10 years. He was overweight and all this shit. I said that motherfuckers the pussy. And he's like, yo, you know what? Throw it back in her face. And I was like, I don't know, man, that's, you know, that's, you know, pretty fucker bold statement. He said do it, do it. So we released. So right away the fucking emails and the toxicity of the vegans. Yo, that's how it started. And then we our agent, Dan, we got hooked up with this guy, Dan, from ICM. He's like met my business partner in the Hamptons. He's like, yo, that book is fucking dope, man. I think we could get a deal within a week. He had four offers. So you wrote it first? Yeah, I wrote it first and we put it out. So what was the thought process behind whitening? You just had a lot of shit in your head. You just wanted to get out. Yeah. Well, I studied writing under Robert McKee. So I wrote my memoir first. Interesting. Yeah. Story. I fucking that guy's like my guru for writing. I took I took the story seminar twice. He's fucking amazing. I mean, Brian Cox is portray over him in fucking in adaptation. Fucking brilliant. Spot on. So and, you know, I actually became friends with Robert, Mr. McKee. I would he smoked like crazy. Really? Yeah. He smoked cigarettes like a fucking chimney. A lot of writers do, man. Yeah, but not during the class. So when he had the breaks, he would fucking do like two, three cigarettes. I said, you know, my friend has an organic green tea extract company. And the polyphenols in that is going to counteract all your fucking smoking shit that you're doing. So I gave him five bottles and then every time he would call him, he would have his people call. You know, that guy fucking McGowan get him to bring me some more of that green tea shit. Did he quit smoking? I don't know. I haven't seen him in the problem. Is it gives them a charge? It gives them, you know, a nootropic charge. Yeah. It fires up your brain. Yeah. It's a smoking cigarette. Man, I smoke like crazy. I used to smoke cools in lock up and shit like, you know, because that's what they give you in Spofford. And and when I went upstate, it was cools. I quit because I started boxing in lock up and they would have us run this fucking hill called Suicide Hill. And I would be fucking puking. And I was like, I got to quit fucking smoking. So I quit smoking. They used to do smoker fights in the lock up. So if you had a beef with somebody, you went into this rec room was explain smokers to people. They don't know what that means. Smoker fights means you just have a beef with somebody and you could just throw on the gloves and go at it. And as long as it's like reasonably within 20 pounds of a weight difference, like, you know, although in lock up, I saw people, much bigger people fighting, much smaller people and some of them guys. I mean, I was not good. I got I would fight the black dudes and they would just beat the shit out of me. But I would just keep coming back. You know, I'm Irish. I don't quit, man. And then, you know, I learned more of the sweet science and, you know, went into the Navy and you quit smoking just for boxing. Yeah, I quit. I quit smoking. Yeah, for that for that reason. But when I was locked up, I didn't quit almost to the end because toward the end of your sentence, they allow you to go home because they want to reintegrate you back with your family or whatever. I never grew up with my mom. So they would send us home. So we would take the cotton of cigarettes and open it up very carefully, open up the cellophane carefully, slide the cellophane down and put joints inside the cigarette pack, slide it back up, glue it, close the carton of cigarettes. And that's how we would get the weed back from the visits. I wasn't smoking weed coming back out of nobody's ass. That was not. I'm like, no, thank you. So that, you know, so that was the process. And, you know, so that's why that's why I quit. But that's the book came. I had a lot of shit, a lot of demons inside of me from what happened to me. Me and my two brothers was, you know, pretty severely abused in all kinds of ways in this foster home, physically, mentally sexually abused by the older kids in the home. It was fucked up and I never told anybody. But that was always something. No matter how much I lived as a monk for two years, a Hare Krishna monk, nothing cured that fucking anger that was inside of me that I had toward these people for what they did to me. And the secret of like, yo, it's fucked up to say, like, yo, you're this dude from the streets. You had knife fights with Puerto Ricans. I got shot with a twenty two in Forest Park, San Angel, thus I got stabbed. And then to try to say, yo, this motherfucker molested me is it took a lot out of me to. And nobody knew it because I never talked about it. And I took McKee's class and that was the turning point because I went up to him and I was writing a script at the time based on what happened to me in the foster home. The kids in the screenplay, we based what happened to me in my younger period of my life. And I never told anybody what happened. I would just avoid that. But then when I wrote, I started writing the book and I was taking his class and between, you know, parts of his thing, when you went on the break, you could walk up to Robert McKee and say, ask him questions. So I said, Mr. McKee, as far as a protagonist who was abused as a kid and he stopped me right there and he said, listen, stop right there. He said, McGowan, everybody uses it. It's a cliche, you know, abusive children to develop empathy for characters we could otherwise not give a fuck about. It's not what happens to somebody. It's what they do as a result of it. And that's the fucking light came on. And I mean, for years I would sit there and it took me seven years to write The Evolution of a Cro-Magnon. And I would get to that part of the story and I would lose my shit and break down crying like fucking uncontrollably because of what happened to me and my brothers. So I just skipped over that part and I would never address it. But then, you know, he gave me the strength and a lot of ways to be able to say, hey, man, you got it. He wrote in my book. So I have his book and he wrote to me. He goes, John, always write the truth. And that's when I knew that that needed to come out in the book to cleanse myself. I've been two years on crack, 88 to 90 crack pills, you know, doing whatever, getting shot at with fucking AR-15s, robbing deals. I had TOS or it was KOS at the time, Kill On Sight. I was I was a fucking maniac because I just didn't care. I actually kind of wish subconsciously that somebody would put a fucking bullet in me when you're doing crack. A lot of people get molested. Yeah. They almost act out to the point where they want someone else to do it for them because they don't want to. Yeah, I was definitely in a lot of ways. That's that's what I was doing. But when I took his when that seminar helped me so much, because it's really like he's really like a fucking guru and a teacher, man. The man is amazing. If you ever get a chance to take the Robert McKee story seminar to three day seminar, I took it twice. Then he does workshops. But the story seminar, I just walked out of there after the third day. It's 10 hours a day. And you're just like you're fucking you're like speeches like what the fuck did I just experience? It's incredible. And that gave me the power to go and tell my story the right way. And the amount of emails of people that I received that were like, yo, that shit was done to me. Thank you for having the courage to tell the story. And, you know, I just kept writing after that. So even the meat is for Pussy's book was, you know, if you read it, it's tongue in cheek. I'm not there's a lot of dudes that eat meat that could kick the shit out of me. I'm not saying what I'm saying is if you continue to lead a sanitary lifestyle and you eat this fucked up food that's out there, that they're putting out there, that they're knowingly putting out there to poison you because they're tied in with the pharmaceutical companies. It's a racket. It's not a conspiracy has been proven that this is what they're doing. You will become a pussy dependent on the pharmaceutical companies.