Is Joe Biden Experiencing Cognitive Decline w/David Pakman | Joe Rogan

We're gonna get we'll get into this stuff. I'm sure you're not just voting for the person you're voting for who are they likely to have working for them? What is likely to happen in courts? What is likely to happen? Regulation wise and so of course you want to think about who it is that the person is But you also want to think about who do they bring with them? And for me, that's a lot of how I see voting in November at this point Yeah, most people have made that concession and it's an interesting concession, right? Because it's not a concession we had to make if it was Tulsi Gabbard or Bernie Sanders or Amy Klobuchar or Pete Buttigieg or you know go down the line There's a lot of very credible candidates that would have made like interest like maybe this person could be The next great president. Maybe this person could be a great leader, but now we're in this position like oh god, okay So listen, we're voting for the cabinet Like Biden is so Whether or not he's having Moments that are related to cognitive decline which you could speculate or whether or not this is just his reaction to the most Extreme amount of pressure he's ever faced in his life and that does happen with people. We know people lock up I would imagine that a guy who's been in the spotlight as long as he has for so long Probably would would be able to handle stuff, but I think running for president is a whole different ballgame I think everything gets turned up by 10 and I think it gets turned up in this society that we're experiencing today It gets turned up even more so because of social media like no president Other than Trump has had really had to deal with this kind of wave of social viral You know feedback online with Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and all the stuff that we're experiencing right now They didn't Obama didn't have to deal with that really in his first term maybe a little bit in his second term, but then Trump's the first guy to tackle it head on and He's you know in a lot of ways. He's showing you what can come at you And I think that when Biden is running through these steps to try to become president He's experiencing a wave of attention and scrutiny that he's never experienced before and that could also exacerbate What am I a doctor here? I'm exam. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with his head, but that could also exactly Are you are you have you taken a position on the the Biden cognitive stuff? That's something wrong something's wrong If he was my friend and he was fighting I'd ask him to retire I Mean if I'm looking at that way I have friends That I've seen their cognitive decline from fighting I'm not saying that Biden's the same because I don't really know him from you know I don't know him over a long period of time I don't know him at all personally, but something's wrong The way are any of your friends that are they close to 80 any of them no no Okay, the guys who kind of decline or younger guys have been hitting the head Yeah, the when you get to 80 I have known people that have had problems, and it's it's very unfortunate I don't think he's there where what I you know cuz he could still talk to him like if that was just a guy That you knew and he was like and he said something like we've all been endowed by you know the thing You know that one famous big you see you wouldn't say oh Jesus. What's going on with Ray? You would say oh he had him he locked up he had a brain fart He had a mental lapse which I've had doing podcasts all the time it can happen But in that moment in front of those people to do it that way While he's running for president and why he's had a few of those before you could be dealing with anxiety, too There's probably a lot of shit going on, but I would be concerned Yeah, I mean listen so I I don't have any I don't My view is just based on actual professionals that I've talked to and people that have been in a room with him because I've I'm not a professional and I've not been in the room with Biden so Andrew Yang was on with Sam Harris recently I don't know if you saw and this topic came up and Andrew Yang basically said listen He's 78 years old if you compare a video of Biden debating Paul Ryan in 2012 to Biden A month ago. Obviously, it's different and To some degree you that's normal when someone's 78 years old Yeah But Andrew Yang's perspective was that he didn't see anything that he would call dementia or cognitive decline Beyond that so that's like one it's just one data point. It doesn't tell us anything definitively You know, the other thing is I've interviewed a few people and I think you and I maybe have even messaged about some of them Neuroscientists Neurologists and mental health professionals who are very concerned about Trump like the oranges of an investigation The where he has he seems to sort of like lock up when his shoulders Sort of you know this thing that he does where his shoulders kind of Way I got video of that, you know, he's just be an injury. You think it's a neurological thing? I don't know. That's the thing. So it could be neurological mental health side-effective medication There's a whole bunch of stuff it could be could also be an injury Maybe yeah, maybe I mean if he's doing some of his back or shoulder Well, it's weird because he when it happens He has a verbal Mistake that he makes and it coincides with this shoulder thing and then it's almost like there's a half-second gap And then someone hits the reset button and he'll get back on the teleprompter or whatever. It's weird There's like 10 or so examples. He this I need I need to see this while I'm talking to you So James gonna search for one. So what would he search for? I think if you if you went to like search dot Twitter calm and just searched in videos the way you can do and you Put like Trump brain glitch. I'm guessing that some of these would Come up, but the the gist of what I was getting to was some of these same Neurologists and mental health folks when I asked them privately about Biden and say do you are you seeing like the same type of thing? They all say no. So again, it's like it's not Their hardcore Democrats, I don't know He's had these moments were for sure something doesn't look good, right? I agree totally agree So why would they say any differently? They've got to be Democrats. They got to be hardcore party loyalists I I think that to assume that absent any evidence is maybe unfair. Yeah, it is But I'm an unfair guy in some some respects, but here's my thought on this right now So like what let's imagine that Biden's having a problem, right? It's absolutely for real I'm still voting for him over Trump, right? I mean like so I think last time we talked you mentioned you were pro-choice Do I remember that right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I Feel like it's a it's a controversial subject for a reason there. Yeah If Donald Trump gets to pick the next Supreme Court justice It will be someone who would love to overturn Roe v. Wade. I mean, there's not even a chance that he said it, right? This is what Trump has said that he is that he's pro-life and that he would Pick someone that would or it was just by virtue of picking conservative There's it's it's actually it's there's two parts to it. One is Donald Trump was pro-choice almost his entire life He came pro-life when he was I think 68 because he met a kid He liked and he imagined if that kid wasn't born. No, I'm serious. I believe you. It's just hilarious It's crazy. It's like an ABC after-school special Let's imagine that that's true that he had an awakening at age 68 after being pro-life his whole life Yeah, he said he would pick Justices that were recommended to him by I forget which conservative group you're only gonna get you know pro so-called pro-life justices from these groups on the other hand Joe Biden will Absolutely pick a pro-choice justice. So if I was pro-choice like you are how do I? Justify voting for the guy who's gonna replace potentially Ruth Bader Ginsburg with someone who would want Roe v. Wade overturned Like I couldn't do it in good conscience. That's that's a good point Well, I'm gonna get into it in a second But Jamie just pulled up this video of Trump and I'm gonna get a watch him have this weird twitch for the first time Okay, it hit me with it Jamie Okay, so he's talking I'm watching it. Is that it that little move that he made? Oh This is hilarious. He silly Trump near logically malfunctions with a full spasm now. He's talking and he just went like this people do that That's silly. Maybe it's so maybe that There's a dozen of ya. I don't know I couldn't hear that Better thing is something that you showed me on your show a better example when there was real problems with him annunciating words and You know there was speculation like was he falling so was he sick? Was there was he on a sedative was something something going wrong? It almost seemed like his tongue wasn't working correctly, right? Yeah, like he was wrestling with with a paralyzed tongue Your perspective matches mine, but I think I really for me It's like this stuff. We're not probably ever gonna really get an answer to this and I don't know that it's Imperative to know the answers for me to know who it is. I'm gonna vote for I guess is the point I'm trying to make