Greg Fitzsimmons: Top or Bottom? | Joe Rogan

That's the problem with history, right? Like, who knows what the fuck Lincoln said? All we know is what Lincoln wrote, okay? When you have Lincoln holding hands with his boyfriend, going for a walk through the garden, bitch, you're just making shit up. You're making shit up. Wait, is that a thing now? Well, there is speculation that Abraham Lincoln was a gay man. And they slept with a man for long periods of time in the same bed. But apparently, people did that very often back then for warmth. Because you lived in a place that was made out of wood that you chopped down your fucking self. I should have been for four years though. Listen, it's cold for four years in a row. It'd be tough to share a bed with Lincoln. He was fucking huge. Yeah, he's all strong too. He was a wrestler. Was he? Yeah. Huh. Yeah, he was an excellent wrestler, supposedly. And he shared a bed with his captain of his bodyguards whenever his wife was away. Hip hop hooray. So maybe it was cold. I don't know. Hey. It might be both. I mean, we have to think about it in context, right? I think if you go back to the Greeks and the Romans, gay sex was way more common. I mean, it was almost like everybody was half gay, right? And pedophilia was just a normal thing. Young boys. Like if you read Socrates, you read the history of him or of a lot of scholars and like really respected thinkers, they had young boys that they would bang. So what today is a horrific crime against humanity was completely normal back then. So when did that stop? Kind of dudes just stop banging dudes. And did they just kind of do it and not talk about it? Or was it? It seems like Christianity first brought about the shame, the sexual shame that we have today. So I would probably trace it back to like 2000 years ago. If you, here's the question. How much of being gay is stopped by society's expectations? Like what is the percentage of people who are actually gay who just can't act on it because it just, whether they're mom or their religion or their church they go to or they're, you know, they got married and they had kids, but they really want to be gay. How much of that exists today? Like what percentage? Out of all the gay activity, if you could put it on a pie chart. You mean how many more gay people would there be if they didn't conform to... It was just, no one cares. Conform to social pressures. Yeah, there's no expectations from religion, no expectations from your community. I'd be in. Would you be in? Fuck yeah. Do you think you'd be a top or a bottom? Top. That's what everybody thinks. I'd be a screaming bottom. A lot of crying. Waterboarding. I'd be a running bottom. It would be just like when you were waterboarded. You'd be fucking spasming uncontrollably. And it turns out that's what a lot of the guys are into, unfortunately. That's the biggest kink in the community. Waterboarding and getting butt fucked. Getting butt fucked by waterboarding. It's the new black. It's the new thing. Yeah, it's the rage. It's all the rage. Nipple clamps.