Calvin Ridley, Pete Rose, and Sports Betting

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Tom Papa

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Comedian and writer Tom Papa is the host of the popular podcast "Breaking Bread with Tom Papa", and the co-host, along with Fortune Feimster, of the Netflix radio program "What a Joke with Papa and Fortune." It can be heard daily on Sirius XM.

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I remember reading this story about... You wanna belong. ...MBA referees that would shave points. They were corrupt. Oh really? Yeah, the one guy, right? Oh, the guys went to jail. Yeah. Didn't they, Jamie? You knew about all that stuff, right? Oh yeah. Guys went to jail, didn't they? Yeah, she sure did. Yeah. I remember that, actually, just as you're saying, this is an NFL player today, suspended for a year for betting on NFL games. Oh really? Yeah. Dirty. Why can't you bet on a game... That you're in? ...if you're not in it? There's a lot you could do to manipulate the points when it's one play that can change the game. Well, if you're not in it. But if you're not playing... No, no, no, that's not... He's in the game. Okay. But your old roommate from college is playing. Right, and he could tell you if someone's hurt. Yeah. I think you can bet on the game that you're not in. But why can't you bet on a game that you're in if you're betting to win? Like, we're gonna fuck them up. I'm so confident I'm gonna bet money. I don't know that that's what was happening, but... That's Pete Rose, right? I mean, no, Pete Rose bet the other way, though. He did? Yeah, Pete Rose apparently bet the other way. He did. I love this label. Isn't that dope? It was banned, rather. I'll get you something else. I think he said he never did. I thought he said he did. I thought he didn't bet against his... I thought that was his thing. Yeah, I thought so, too. Like, hey, I didn't bet against us. I thought so, too. And then I read an article. Oh, really? It's contrary to popular belief, Pete Rose bet against his team. Uh... Which means... So Barry Bonds is never gonna be in the whole thing. That might not be true. Yeah, no, I'm actually looking up what happened with this player, too. It says, a league investigation uncovered no evidence indicating any inside information was used or that any game was compromised in any way. So there was no evidence suggesting any awareness by coaches, staff, teammates, or any other players of his betting activity. It took place during a five-day period in late November while he was away from the team and away from the club's facility on the non-football illness list. And he was betting for his team? I honestly don't know that part now. It doesn't say. Okay. Find out if Pete Rose bet against his team, because if not, we're gonna have to edit that out. I don't want Pete Rose to be mad at me. Yeah. I mean, I could be wrong. I do remember reading that, but the thing is, I've read shit about me. It's not true. So maybe writing things about him is not true. Yeah, even the thing we're about to look up might not be true. Yeah, so he said in the book, he never bet against... Against the Reds. Right. I thought so. He was making bets, I believe in a way that maybe he had... He was managing the team, so he could have done things to manipulate stuff. Like by playing a player to win the game real hard tonight, fucking up tomorrow's game. Playing a pitcher to get the strikes. But did he... Oh, I see. I see. So he fucked the team by betting... So he didn't make strategically wise decisions, because he was trying to cover a point, so he didn't spread. And that's probably why he got in trouble. Whether or not that actually happened or was speculation, I think that's where I'm like, I wasn't even alive then. Well, that's why betting on it, all these questions come up. That's why you can't do it. Would you just look up Pete Rose actually did bet against his team? Look, I'm 100% looking. Quotes from Pete Rose. Quote from Dan Patrick's show. I bet on my team every night. I didn't bet on my team four nights a week. I bet on my team to win every night because I loved my team. I believed in my team. I did everything in my power every night to win that game. So the story that I read that said that he didn't bet on his team, that he bet against his team, that's horseshit. Probably. But that's... According to him. I don't think they believe him, because they would say, of course you're saying that. Right. According to him. The problem is, I don't know how many gambling junkies you've ever met. Do you know any? Not really. I've known quite a few that have real problems. Those motherfuckers will come up with any reason at all to gamble. They're sick. It's like, do you remember when Kitty Dukakis was drinking aftershave or some shit? She was so sick. She was alcoholic and she was so sick that she was drinking whatever she could find. That's a thing with the gamblers. It's a sickness. Do you think that... How do you feel about gambling being now available to everybody all over the country? I think people need lessons in how to manage their thought process. And I think gambling is exciting. When I was in Vegas a few months ago with Whitney Cummings... Here's probably... ...Rose did not bet on the Reds to win in the four games. Here it is. The four that Rose didn't bet on, the Reds were all started by Bill Gullickson. The problem comes when you realize this. If he bet the Reds to win every night, when the four nights he didn't bet on the Reds, would send up a gigantic red flag, the gamblers would know that Rose wasn't betting on the Reds. So this may be the right time to bet against them. You might say Rose was still trying to win those games and yes, maybe he was. But if you take a closer look at the games in question, it becomes even more disturbing. And they break down each of these games in question. So he might have bet against his team. There's too many questions. Just too much. Or just even by not betting, maybe he's paying back a debt to somebody he owed money to. I'll not bet here, but you can make money. You can make money here.