Boston Hockey Fans Are Animals! | Joe Rogan and Greg Fitzsimmons

Yeah. Now, what is it with MMA? What are the big nationalities? That's a good question. Russians? Russians are murdering it right now. There's a lot of badass Russians. Wherever life is hard, you're going to find fighters and you're going to find people that survive where life is hard and thrive. And then that's how you get like a Khabib Nurmagomedov. You get a hard motherfucker who knows how to fight and then it scares shit. Same thing with Conor McGregor. You get a hard neighborhood, a hard life. Growing up in Dublin, dangerous. Fighting since he was young. That's how you get these beasts. But a lot of American MMA guys come from? Wrestling. Or the military, right? Yeah, some of them. Some of them from the military. It's rare. We had special forces guy like Tim Kennedy, of course, who's probably one of the most famous. Brian Stan, also a military veteran. When you look at these guys that are, the guys that are capable of being SEALs or Rangers or Green Berets, they're just elite humans. They're people that know how to do things and push themselves in a way that other people don't. Sometimes that translates over the fighting and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes they just don't have the physical capability of it. They might have the mindset to survive war and the ability to get through buds and to get through grueling physical training, but you ain't beating John Jones. There's levels to this thing. There's genetic levels. John Jones has some of the best genetics ever and then uses them as good as anybody that's ever existed. Best at controlling distance of all time. He's got two brothers that are NFL players. So this is like super genetics in the house. Both his brothers are NFL stars. That's amazing. And he's the baddest light heavyweight of all time. And he's smart. So it's not just physical. It's also intellectual. He's also sets traps for people. He measures them. He sees what they're doing and he feels them weakening. He pressures them and puts heavy pressure on people. He knows when to ebb and flow. He's just a genius at fighting. Do lightweights have longer careers? No. No, I would say the opposite. I would say the bigger guys actually have, they can compete at a higher level deep into their thirties and even forties. Like Randy Couture, I think he re-won the heavyweight title when he was 42. Check that out. Because I would think there'd be more knockouts with heavyweights. There's a lot of knockouts with heavyweights. But their bodies maintain what got them to the dance later in life. Like George Foreman. George Foreman won the heavyweight title, I think he was 46, when he knocked out Michael Moore. So he's the oldest ever heavyweight champion. And that's just unheard of at welterweight. You're not going to see 46-year-old welterweights winning the world title against Earl Spence Jr. or someone like that. You're just not going to see that. He was 43. He was 43? Mm-hmm. So you'll find out how old George Foreman was when he knocked out Michael Moore. So that's crazy. That's crazy old 43. You don't see that at 125 pounds. You just don't. You just don't. At 125 pounds, no one wins the title at 43 years old. So just the maths almost helps you survive. Something like that. I also think they lose less as they get older. He was 45. So yeah, George Foreman was the oldest ever heavyweight champion at 45. Crazy. Wow. That is so unusual as like a middleweight. The only one who maintained a world championship caliber skill set deep into his 40s was Bernard Hopkins and Archie Moore when Archie Moore was younger. We're talking about the Rocky Marciano days. He fought deep into his 40s as well, but he was just a real crafty veteran. He actually also trained George Foreman, which is very interesting. So like that crafty veteran trained George Foreman to be a crafty veteran and maintain his power. Not a real unusual, I don't know if you remember, but George Foreman used to almost like put his hands up like he didn't know how to fight. Like don't hit me, don't hit me, don't hit me. Almost like that, but that was his defense. He would move forward like this because he was so big. He was such an enormous man with these enormous arms. So when you would stack them on top of each other and walk towards you like that, it was this weird offense. And he learned that from Archie Moore. It was part of his defense and holding his hands up in a weird way. He learned from Archie Moore. Right. Well, you know, the oldest hockey player in the NHL is also the biggest, six foot eight. The guy is Zidane Achara on the Bruins. 43. What's that name? What is his name? Zidane Achara, he's Slovakian. Yeah. That dude was from the Lord of the Rings. Listen to that name. They gave birth to him in a meadow. They rode a horse out there. It was destiny. They predicted how long he'd planned when he was young. Yeah. Just that name. There he is. He came out of the Arizona. He looks like a fucking Viking. He's an animal. And he fights? Oh yeah. I saw this one fight where he hit a guy and the guy kind of took a dive and he leaned down and picked him up with one hand and started punching him with the other. Lifted him off the ice with one hand. Oh my God. Yeah. I saw one thing that a guy did that's really fucked up. A guy hip tossed a dude. He judo threw him. Like he swept him. Like he grabbed a hold of him, swept his leg out, kicked his leg out like an uchi mata and slammed his fucking head onto the ground. Jesus. It was rough. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, man, that ain't the same as fighting. You know you're on ice. Yeah. I mean, no one told him he couldn't do it. Right. But he used some really fucking sneaky shit. Yeah. You know? Yeah. The fighting in the name of the match, it's funny, there's really great clips of guys talking to each other before fights. And it's amazingly calm. They literally go like, hey, you want to go? And the guy will be like, yeah, I'll go. And then they fight. And then as soon as the other guy goes, yeah, they just throw their gloves down and they start fighting. It's all part of the game. It's all fucking orchestrated. And there's players that fight and there's players that don't. And if you're on the ice with another goon, then it's expected that you guys are going to fight at some point. Jesus. What a crazy way to make a living. Bare knuckle fighting on slippery floor. Yeah, but you know, they don't get hit that much because they get the jersey up. They do. They get hit enough though. I've been watching dudes who have skills now. You're seeing way more guys who have boxing skill doing this. Guys who lay in short uppercuts and left hooks where you're like, oh my God, I got to turn that punch over. That guy knows how to punch. Yeah, there's not as many overhands. All you're doing is the overhand, hitting the guy in the helmet with your fist. Yeah. And you're telling, sometimes you don't see that. Sometimes you're seeing guys who throw fucking straight punches. Yeah. Right. You don't know how to fight. And then this guy knows how to do that while he's out. Yeah, this one. Look at this. Boom, boom. See how best you can knock out folks at home. Whoa. That's a good KO. While he's holding, then he gives him one while he's going down and then he goes down. He's out cold. Yeah. Boom, boom, bang. He's not gonna figure guys out. Oh, I believe it. Yeah, he punches right from the shoulder. Oh yeah, that guy can punch. You're punching in the face while he's punching you in the face too. It's chaos. It's a terrible way to punch people. Not only a great fighter, one of the best players in the league and also a great fighter. Is he really? And also a great fighter? Yeah. Wow. That's a crazy sport, man. It doesn't get enough love. Yeah. Get the average person to name a famous hockey player who's currently playing. Yeah, I know. This is the same guy. This crazy thing happened this year. This is an insane video to watch. I can't show it. People at home might have seen this, but the puck literally flies and hits him right in the face and he barely moves. It might have to show it again in slow motion right here. He checked to see if his teeth got knocked out. Oh man. Wow. He got pucked right in the mug. Yeah. Bro, that is hard. Wow, that guy can take it. Fuck hitting that dude. This is insane. Dude, do you know the fucking Bruins, and they actually dropped game one last night against the Blues, but the Bruins are set to win the Stanley Cup, which means Boston will win the fucking Super Bowl, the World Series, and the Stanley Cup in one year. I remember when we lived there, they couldn't win shit. No. It was like they had such an inferiority complex. Yeah. And we'd get close. The Celtics were good. They had Larry Bird and Danny Angel. But now they have it forever. Because when was the last time the Yankees won the World Series? How long ago was that? Geez, 2008? So it's been 11 years. I know. I could be way off on that. But they still have it. They're still the Yankees. Yeah. The Red Sox, they never pulled it off. And then that Bill Buckner thing, Bill Buckner just died by the way. I know. So sad. And that's the thing about being in Boston, because I grew up a Mets fan. We had season tickets to the Mets since I was a little kid. And so when they got into the World Series, and I was going to school in Boston, surrounded by mass holes watching these fucking games. And they're just, I'm sorry, if you're from Boston, take it the fuck easy about your sports. They're so loud. Like last night with the Bruins game, they introduced the Blues. They boo every fucking player. It's barbaric. They're animals. So then fucking Buckner, who's this storied, amazing player, who's a journeyman, he's been out there forever. They put him at first base. He used to be an outfielder, but he slowed down. I think he had bad legs or something. They put him at first base. He gets a fucking ball hit to him. It took a bad hop. Watch the video. It took a bad hop. And he missed it. And they fucking, there were death threats. They dropped him that year. He went down to Pawtucket in Rhode Island to play in the minors. They showed up there and fucking terrorized him. He had to move out to like Arizona to hide. Jesus Christ. Because these fucking Boston fans. I remember people walking the streets. What year was that? 84? 86. 86? I remember people walking the streets. They'd just be walking around the neighborhood with their hands in their hair. Like fuck. After they lost? Fuck. Yeah. Just walking the streets. People were so mad. It was all anybody wanted to talk about. Because they hadn't won a World Series since 2017 or something? It was crazy. I mean, 2017. I was already over. Yeah, 1917. I was already over baseball at that point. I wasn't interested in baseball anymore. So for me, it was really fascinating to watch these people. Because I'd gone from caring about baseball to being obsessed with martial arts. And that was in the trend. Like I got obsessed with martial arts in like 81. So by the time 86 rolled around, I was like, what the fuck are you people paying attention to? Yeah. Some guy dropped a ball. You gonna be okay? Yeah. What is this? Not only that, but that same year. I believe it was that same year. The Mets. That same year. They went crazy. The Patriots lost to the Bears in the Super Bowl. And it was one of the biggest blowouts in Super Bowl history. Oh yeah, that's right. So they were riding off of that too. It was rough times. Rough times for Boston. I don't want to live there. Because I can't deal with the cold. I'm too much of a pussy these days. But I love those fucking animals.