Bob Lazar Got In Trouble for Filming a UFO Test Flight | Joe Rogan

So you're working there and while you're working there you're under this crazy schedule. Forgive me for explaining your story. But you would get these phone calls. You would have to go to the airport at 11pm and your wife started thinking that you were having an affair. Yeah, apparently so. Now I did give my permission to have, as part of the security clearance process, I gave written permission to have the phones monitored and things of that sort. So they weren't doing any covert stuff. With any queue clearance, which is civilian top secret clearance, or military top secret clearance, you go talk to friends and places you've been, make sure you're not connected to foreign countries. But monitoring your phone is nothing unusual. However, they insisted that you don't even talk to your loved one, to your partner, to your wife, whatever, about what's going on. So she was essentially in the dark and didn't know the phone was being monitored. Well, part of the security clearance is that not only do you not have any connections to foreign countries and aren't a maniac, but you have to have a stable home life too. Well, she started having an affair with a flight instructor. Now they were monitoring this on the phone and they knew it and I didn't. So they stopped me coming in and their attitude at the time was, I need to see how this is going to play out and if Lazar is going to get a little weird or anything. So let's just hold them off from coming in and see what happens. And they explained this to you, what was happening? Well, after the fact, yeah, because time kind of went on and there were guys that were following me around. And I started getting a little concerned going, well, what did they do? Are they booting me out of the project? And if so, they're not just going to let me hang out at home and go get a new job knowing what I know. So as time went on, I started getting a little concerned and I took my closest friends and just kind of got together and I said, hey, remember that job I told you about? This is what's going on. And you don't need to take my word for it. Wednesday night, we need to all go out here. I want to show you what's going on. So I took everybody and we went out to remember since I had the test flight schedule and went outside the base out into the desert and so everybody could see one of the high performance tests. And it left quite an imprint on everybody. So they knew I wasn't. And there's videos of these tests, right? Yeah, but remember, this is in the dark in the 80s with a big monster sized camcorder and you got a bright light jumping around. But yeah, I mean, we did video of it, but there's no, by today's standards, it's. But is your video specifically available, the video that you took? Yeah, well, George Knapp has it. Is it online? I have no idea. Jeremy? Yeah, I show clips of it in my film. It's online and someone did a deep analysis of it. It was interesting to take a look at how this microphone on two faces, about a fist from your face. You know, to see how his video looks now, but as far as video evidence, I mean, we are talking 80s camper is the most important thing is the human story here. Everybody that he took up there on three separate occasions, they don't all like each other. They don't all talk. They all agree on one thing. They saw something that night at the exact point in time and space that Bob is our said. And remember, this is 1715, 17 miles south of area 51. No one even knew really about area 51. We're talking Papoose Lake and they all agree. They saw something that night. They had never seen before and they've never seen since right when he said it. So that's one of the six things where I'm like, how did he know you can dismiss him? I tried to dismiss it, but some things we can't get around and there's about five or six of them. How did he know about that? If Jamie wants to find that video right now, what would he look under? Bob Lazar UFO S for area 51 just kind of like that. So it's like this S for UFO video, Bob Lazar and a guy does an analysis, but you're analyzing these 80s videos. He from the very beginning, Bob never said, I have proof of my story and I'm going to tell the world. He said at the very beginning, I cannot prove my story. That's not why I'm telling this. George Knapp convinced him to tell people and he lived through it and I didn't believe it either until I talked with George. Okay. So you, you filmed these, this test flight, one test flight, and then you get caught. Actually, it was, I think the third time because we went out there the first time. Everybody saw it. Everybody was amazed because it did some radical maneuvers and, you know, everybody had a lot to say about it. It doesn't mean maneuvers that I've seen. I've seen the video. It doesn't, I don't think there's something we have now that does that. No. In terms of like a human piloted craft. I mean, I don't know, obviously, with the government. No, it's impossible. Nothing can move like that. And remember, we didn't start filming from the very beginning. You know, we were waiting for something, you know, to happen. The craft took off and I came flying at a stop, you know, turned at a right angle, flew back and then, you know, after it did some, you know, amazing stuff. It was like, you know, we were waiting for it to get the camera and then we started filming. So it doesn't have all of it on there. It just has some. The way I describe it to my friends and they said, what does it look like? I said, take a laser pointer and then have a wall and then move it around the wall. Like, you know how it moves around the wall? It doesn't seem like it has anything to do with inertia or physics or it's not impeded in any way by the atmosphere. Yeah. And it's not going to affect the reality as crazy as that sounds with being in case it's own gravitational envelope, inertia is not going to affect it. And, you know, this is how some of those recent sightings with Commander David Fravor. I'm sure you've heard of the Tic Tac UFO. I mean, he describes exactly that the thing operates exactly the way I was describing. That's why he was interested to talk to me. He saw this and, you know, on the way home, it's like, hey, we got away with it. We should try it again the next test flight date. So this became a thing to do. And I think it was on the third time that we got caught. I mean, we started becoming a little careless. I think we took a motor home out there. You know, I mean, it was like the stupidest thing you could possibly imagine. To grill, start tailgating. Yeah, it was ridiculous. And again, you're in your 20s. Yeah. And, you know, what was funny was we went out there and my friend Gene Huff and I were leaning on the front of a vehicle. And just for some reason, we just started talking shit like, well, I hope they realize that I don't remember what we're saying, but, you know, that it's something about attacking the base or something along those lines and stealing the craft or something like that. Something like that. It's crazy. And then about 20 feet in front of us, we see a little green light fall on the ground and roll to us. And unbeknownst to us, now it's pitch black. You can't see your hand in front of your face. There were a bunch of guards standing right out there and they had a night vision scope where they were like from here to the wall looking at us, listening to us. And the guy dropped it and the scope rolled over to us and you could see the green screen. We turned the lights on and all these guys are there. So it was. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. So we did incredibly stupid stuff and got caught as we should have. So when they catch you and they bring you in, then what happens? Well, I went in for debriefing the following day. I went to Indian Springs Air Force Base, which is kind of a defunct base that they used to use at the nuclear test site. And this is when they brought out the transcript of the phone call with my wife. And, you know, they sat me down and we said, you know, when we meant to keep the secret, we meant you can't tell your friends, right? You know, and it just being sarcastic and trying to. And then they got real serious. But this is where they, you know, took the transcript out and were reading me what my wife and, you know, our friend were talking about. And it was a hard time. So what happens from there? What do they do with you? Why don't they arrest you? I don't know. I don't know why. I'm not sure they exactly they knew what to do, but they did let me go that night. And I went home. And this is kind of when the most stressful part started. Because you're realizing you're being monitored. Yeah. Now, yeah. Now I know not only am I being monitored, but now I know I'm in trouble. And it wasn't a short time after that that I contacted, you know, at that time, the only investigative reporter I had heard of in Las Vegas was George Knapp. And, you know, told him some of the story because I had no idea what the hell was going to happen at that point. So George Knapp tries to dissect your story, tries to find holes in it, tells it, puts it online and makes everybody aware of it. And that's how I found out about it. Yeah. To make a long story short. What happens? Yeah. To really make a long story short. What happens from there on? I mean, do they contact you and say, hey, Bob, it's probably a good idea if you shut up. How? They try to label you as crazy. Was there? Boy, there are a lot of things that happened at, you know, between that point. I'm leaving out a lot of stuff to fill in the story. We'd have to go back to Los Alamos and, and well, I really don't want to talk about that. The top secret weapons. Stuff that you were working on. No, I'm talking about the 115. Well, I don't know. I have to think about how I'd. What is the problem? I don't want to get myself into more trouble by admitting something. So I just have to dance around a couple. He was rated just during the filming of the movie. People thought it was great. The movie's great, by the way. Thanks. And it's on Netflix right now, if anybody wants to check it out.