Being Fat Shamed Was the Reality Check Brian Grazer Needed

I once was fat actually. Really? Yeah, like the guys that have rolls of fat and the thing. And I was with a girl who, you know, very, very serious young and everything. And we went to her beach. Her beach was called Little Doom, you know, Doom Beach. Little Doom. And she talks to these, she goes, I have to go talk to these guys. And they were the cool surfer dudes. And it was like 25 years ago. 30 years ago. And she talks to these guys and they start laughing. And I go, what are you guys laughing at? To her. Because she's now left these and they're back there and I see a chorus of them kind of laughing. They go, well, I guess they're laughing because they said, we never thought you'd be with like a fat guy. And I thought, wow, they look at me and that's what they're seeing and they think it's funny? I got to fix this. And that was like the straight up October forever for me. That is what's called fat shaming. Fat shaming. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even know that. There's a freeze. Yeah. You never heard of fat shaming? Never heard it. Well, it's a very controversial thought because some people think that fat shaming is terrible and that you shouldn't do it to people. And other people say that fat, it's true, it does work on certain people, but it makes people feel bad and some people think you should protect people from feeling bad. Whereas other people think you should tell them that they're fat so they feel bad, so they act on it. How do you see it? I say it. Or does Joe Rogan call it? I'm the latter. I think you should tell people that they're fat if they want to know. God, you said it. I don't think you should go after people and they can feel like shit. If they want to know, you mean like if they want to know, I don't think you should protect them from it. Like what's a, okay, give me the signal of if you want to know. You're with some friend here. Let's say you're with someone you only know a little bit. I wouldn't say anything. Then, okay, so now you're with, so we're talking about like relatives or, no, you're talking about a husband wife or boyfriend girlfriend. That's tough because they can resent you forever. Yeah. You got to be real careful, especially with the ladies. Yeah, yeah. And if you're a man and you resent your wife forever because she tells you you're fat, you're probably not really a man. That's really funny. I can't believe you said that. Really? I mean, I like it because I don't know what you, I like it. You might be a little bitch. You might be a little bitch. Yeah. If your wife says you're fat and like, if my wife tells me I'm fat, I'm like, um, I'm not fat. Yeah. What are you talking about? It doesn't work. It only works if you're fat. It's one thing if they're saying something about, it's one thing if they're saying something about something you can't control. Like I wish you were black. I don't like white cars. Okay. So it sounds like you have no boundaries on your show. Right. Okay. The guys that have really little dicks. Ooh, that's a rough one. I got it. I'm hearing you. So do you think the girl, the white, let's, do you think, and the girl and the guy are together, does the girl ever say, do they ever, does it? I'm sure some girls do. Do they say it? But here's the thing, some girls. We feel pretty like rough guys we can talk about. I think some girls who are, some girls who are beautiful, beautiful girls are also lesbians. Oh yes, that's true. Yeah. So some girls. Popular to be honest. Some girls who are beautiful girls are bisexual. So they, they like girls and guys. Here's the question. Would those girls be more likely to settle for a guy with a little dick? Yes. Or. A rich guy with a little dick. Like girls to be girls and like guys, no matter what, to have a big dick. All right, the way that's, I think they're like probably the latter. Probably, unfortunately. Evolution's a motherfucker. It really is. Yeah. I think that that's, you know, there's not a damn thing a person can do about that one. You know, you could suck fat out of your waist and stuff in your ass. You could get fake boobs. There's a lot of shit you can do if you got a little dick. That's a wrap, son. That's a wrap. So not much you can do. I mean, there's probably, there's some operations that can help you out a little. But I think that can imagine. For the most part. Yes. Yeah. Cutting and dick. Do you think it makes guys crazy when they have it? Oh, for sure. I think it might. Guaranteed. It must. Yeah. It must make them suicidal. Because it's, whenever we started throwing shit right now, that would mean like we had little dicks. Maybe. And if you go crazy. I think there's certain things that, you know, there's nothing you can do about it. You just have to handle that roll of the dice, whatever you got. Yeah, I would guess. Yeah, that's one of them. But I mean, if things like CRISPR and genetic manipulation and things they're working on now, that's probably one of the first things they're going to work on. That's fine. Wow, I never thought of it. Oh yeah. You just hatched that right on the show today. I think I've thought about it before. Okay. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think there's anything more profitable. Except beauty. Beauty would be incredibly profitable for people who are not born. But they're both fall in that same depart, well, somewhat same area. Yeah. Yeah, being. Like whatever it is, cosmetics. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Not just cosmetics, but even, you know, people that are not happy with their frame. What guy with the little dick? You're not operational. No, I mean, not operational. I mean, maybe one day they'll be able to do something. Yeah. They shoot a little virus into your body and then all of a sudden, dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be something. It can happen. Yeah. I mean, it's not insurmountable scientifically. Yeah. There's so many things that they're already doing with genetic manipulation. Yeah. That's not outside the realm. Yeah, it's not outside the realm. It seems possible. Let's start calling our scientists right now. Call them up. Yeah, and see what they say. Yeah. So anyway, learn about fat shaming. I got that. That's very interesting. I can't believe you didn't know about that. I'm the zeitgeist right now. Is it? Yeah, people get mad at people for fat shaming. Yeah. Yeah. James Corden got mad at Bill Maher. Did he? Bill Maher was mocking fat shaming. He was like, maybe we should be shaming people more. To him directly? No, no. Oh, just. Bill Maher was talking about on his television show that maybe we should be shaming people more. Oh, I see. I see. And then James Corden said, I have a problem with that. And, you know, he's talked, he's been made a bunch of fat jokes, which I found kind of weird. You're making fat jokes while you're being upset that someone's calling you fat. That's interesting. Yeah. He thought he could get that one by you, but that one didn't get by you. No, but he also does have a comedy talk show. So it makes sense that he was making jokes. And he's being comedic in his... But he does have a comedy fiction. It's not something that you can't fix. And that's one of the things that people have a problem with being sympathetic about it. I think that was Bill Maher's statement, because Bill's obviously a very slim man. Yeah. But it's not something you can't fix. It's a problem to fix. It's hard to fix. It's hard to probably fix. It requires discipline. And also your gut biome is probably all screwed up from eating bad foods. And you probably are accustomed to certain behavior patterns that are unhealthy for you. The times you're eating, the kind of foods you're eating. Yeah. I fixed mine with... But I mean, I wasn't fat in the... That really... You fixed it with shame. I fixed it with shame. She shamed me and I started jumping rope. And I started with... I do all everything with an achievable goal. I just did a couple of minutes and I just kept going. And then pretty soon, I did the rope that had a counter on it with those plastic beads that gives a little weight on a nylon rope, a nylon cord. And you could really get it going. So I could do 200 beats a minute for 30 minutes and you're holding your body very tight. So it actually... I didn't think of it that way, but it really strengthened my core. Yeah. Jumping rope is amazing. Yeah. So you obviously do... Yeah, it's great. It's great for footwork. It's great to only to warm up or... Mostly. Yeah. I just do it to kind of get going. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a staple of boxing workouts. Yes, it is. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're always on your toes. Yeah. So it keeps your calves conditioned and helps your body ability to shift movement. I mean, strong calves and strong feet are very, very important for boxing and anything that requires movement. Football players, a lot of football players use jump rope to help their ability to move side to side and help their mobility. Yeah. Great workout too, just great cardiovascular. Yeah. It's very trendy right now too. Is it? Yes. Another trendy thing. Another trendy thing. The antidote to fat shaming, right? Well, there's a lot of videos online where people are doing like these YouTube workouts of jumping rope. And then they also have weighted ropes, which makes it more intense. I used to weighted rope too. Yeah. I used to go everywhere with these ropes. So if I were in an airport, I'd be doing it. I remember being on a tarmac in Greece in Athens, waiting... And I was doing it. I would do it in the rain. I always did it every day. I did it. That's awesome. That I did without fail for almost 12 years.