Are There Any World Champion Vegan Athletes?

A lot of the people who were amazing athletes, they didn't start out vegan. They weren't born to vegan parents and then were vegan growing up and then had all these amazing records and performance. They built their strength or their agility or their speed or whatever on a diet with animal products. And then at some point they became vegan and maybe their performance continued and they continued to do well like Scott Jurek or Dottie Bausch or maybe they had the vegan honeymoon where they did well for a while and then they declined or maybe they just declined like some of the NBA and NFL athletes we talked about. But this is a critical point because there are key developmental periods when we're kids and also in Jero that if you're not getting the nutrition you need then it's going to carry through to your whole life. And so it's like what did your parents eat? What did your mom eat when she was breastfeeding you? What did you eat as a young kid? So we follow that whole argument through. If everyone becomes plant based it's going to have a huge intergenerational impact on performance. It's not like people who built their strength and performance eating meat and then they go vegan and they do okay for a little while. It's like what are the consequences of that happening to everybody? What are the consequences of growing up nutritionally deficient? Yeah of the mom starting that way and then getting pregnant and becoming deficient during pregnancy and then the baby being breastfed by a mom who's nutrient deficient and then the kid being fed a vegan diet and developing B12 deficiency which then becomes irreversible has irreversible effects. Are there any top of the food chain world champion vegan athletes? Like the best of the best. There's no vegan UFC champions. There's no world champion vegan boxers that I'm aware of. There's Ilya Illian. Do you know him? He's the weight weight lifter that's I think in the same weight class as Kendrick Faris who was in the film. And two time Olympic champion where I don't think Kendrick has won, he's not won a gold medal. But he was stripped of his titles because he tested positive for steroids. So once again what's happening it's hard to say. He was pulled from the film because of that right? Yeah he was pulled from the film or was he in the film? I believe he was originally supposed to be in the film now that you brought this up. That's not a good narrative for them right? And then they had like Tim Sheef if I'm pronouncing his name correctly he's like the free runner parkour guy who was going to be in the film. And then he had this very public I'm not vegan anymore because it was destroying my health video on YouTube. He ate a piece of salmon and had a wet dream for the first time in a decade. I mean it was like poor bastard. Yeah he was doing everything. He did a 30 day water fast. He tried everything to stay on the vegan diet. He wasn't like oh it's hard I'm going to eat salmon. I should also tell you he thinks the earth's flat. Oh does he? Yes. Uh oh. Yeah. I bet that could be the vegan diet all those years rotting his fucking brain. Yeah. Well one of the main guys you know the anthropological argument that humans are herbivores because we don't have claws and sharp teeth. That all comes from Milton Mills a 1987 paper from him. He's an emergency room physician. He has no training in medical anthropology or comparative anatomy or anything like this. He is a creationist. So he thinks that we were just built this way and with these teeth and the way by God. So yeah that whole why don't we this if we are carnivorous species why don't we this? How come we don't have the teeth to do that? You know how come you can't just grab a squirrel and eat it. I've actually heard a guy say that. Well hey fuckface how come you can't eat lentils? You got to boil them. You're like what are you talking about man? Try eating cassava without cooking it. You'll die. You'll die. Sino poisoning. Yeah it's like that argument is so stupid. There's a lot of plant based foods that are only consumed after lengthy cooking. Yeah. I mean going back to your question I'm sure there are high level vegan athletes but the thing is a lot of the people who are commonly referred to like the William sisters Serena and Venus they're not vegan. Yeah why did they have there in the film? They showed them in the film and I was like wait a minute they're not vegan. Because they're often people often call them vegan. They occasionally will have periods of veganism I guess. Did they? But they're not vegan. They eat meat they they eat animal products. They look like meat eaters. Tom Brady is another example. Another one who looks like a meat eater. Who you know really does eat a lot of you know predominantly plant based I guess but eats meat especially in the winter. The William sisters are so powerful. I mean it would be a great like catch for that team. Right. If they were vegan. Right. Because like look at the athleticism that these girls have. Yeah. But nope. But it was weird they didn't say they were vegan they just showed them. And so you're like oh they're the best. They don't need to say it. Yeah. Show them. Show them. Well same thing with Arnold. He's talking great about veganism. He's like Cameron fucky tea right now. Carving into a nice juicery bite. Come on show me a picture. Where's he doing. Oh that fuck. Epic meal time he did a video with them like five years ago eating a 80,000 calorie steak and egg sandwich. Jesus Christ Arnie. When is this. Astrich eggs. A couple years ago. Oh that's five years ago bro. That's a long time ago. It could be all vegan now I guess but. I doubt it. He was doing this while they were doing the new Terminator movie. Yeah. James Cameron movie. He's not stupid. Hollage boy. And even if he is now he didn't you know he didn't he wasn't then when he accomplished all of his athletic. Yes of course. So yeah. But that's where it's weird right. It's like he did everything spectacular with meat. And now he's saying you don't need it. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty. Years later he's part time vegan he's saying in this article now. Now. Well this is 26. Two years after that epic meal time thing. I got a picture of him not in and out. That's not a funny concept. Like how do you how are you part vegan. You know I'm sure vegans would take issue with that. I heard a guy arguing with someone about this once I talked about this he said I'm 90 percent vegetarian and this was his argument like that like vegetarian is a way to go. I'm 90 percent vegetarian. Like bitch that's zero percent vegetarian. That's right. You don't understand math. You don't understand math. It's even more ridiculous with vegan because there's a whole ethos obviously around. Yeah. 90 percent on fire. Bitch you're on fire. Yeah. Oh man that doesn't make any sense. Yeah. And it's like I said before all it takes sometimes is a little because like organ meats and shellfish and fish and eggs are so nutrient dense you don't have to eat a lot of them to get to get meat your nutrition. Yeah. I've had this conversation with vegans too about mollusks and I was like you know I've heard it argued and Sam Harris has talked to me about this that you can actually make an ethical argument that mollusks are more primitive than plants and that plants actually exchange more information through mycelium through their root structure. They actually communicate with each other. They're evidence of intelligence. Yeah. They're mollusks are an older creature and they're just dumb hunks of meat you can scoop out of a container. I mean they have no idea you're there. They have just basic movement where they clamp shut. That's it. I mean they're not going stop. No. They're not trying to get away like a fish. Mollusks just fucking lay there. And they happen to be like I said among the most nutrient dense foods on the planet. Like one serving of oysters I think will meet your need for zinc for the entire week. Yes. That's pretty impressive. I mean that's we're talking about like. Yes. And that's always been associated with male virility. Yeah. I mean zinc is super important for so many different functions. For our owners they should have done that test right. Eat a bunch of raw oysters. Imagine that like eight times more than the guys who were eating plants with a ring around their penis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.