Jordan Peterson is a fascinating guy. I mean, he’s one of those people who really resonates with a lot of young men today. His message of personal responsibility—like “clean your room” and “get your shit together”—is simple yet profound. I’ve heard countless stories from guys who say his words saved them, you know? It’s incredible how someone can have such a profound impact on people's lives.

But the way he’s been portrayed in the media? It’s insane. People conflate him with all these other polarizing figures, which is just not fair. He’s really about pushing back against postmodernism and encouraging people to think critically. I can respect that. He’s got his struggles, especially with fame hitting him hard later in life. But he’s navigated it in a way that’s really impressive. Overall, the guy is a complex character, and I could talk to him for hours. He’s definitely one of my favorite people to have on the podcast.