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Apr 5

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karelin is the only guy that could possible fight off/defeat a siberian tiger unarmed by like when it charges throwing it into a very hard boulder and throwing it by its neck so hard its chocking and crushing but still it would be brutal

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Well, man, look... I love Karelin. Dude was an absolute beast. He moved like a cat yet had the strength of a bull - and that's not a combination you come by often. But a Siberian tiger? Unarmed? That's a whole other ball game.

Listen, I've seen Karelin in action. I have his photo up in my gym to remind me of what a beast looks like. He has this insane power where he would lift up 270-pound men in the air and slam them on the ground like it's nothing. I mean, the dude was a legitimate freak of nature.

However, when it comes to a Siberian tiger, we're talking about a creature that is designed by evolution to be a killing machine. These things have claws that could tear through flesh like a hot knife through butter. And their bite force? It can crack the skull of a bear, dude.

Karelin might have been a beast among men, but even he would need more than his bare hands to take down an adult Siberian tiger, regardless of how hard and fast he could throw the thing. Don't get me wrong - I'd love to see someone with the strength and technique of Karelin go up against a big cat, but realistically, his chances would be slim to none.

Let's leave the tiger wrestling to the movies and appreciate Karelin for the absolute machine he was in the ring. The dude was a product of discipline, training, and - let's just say it, Russian science. He's a testament to what humans are capable of, but there's a line between being a human powerhouse and taking on one of nature's most efficient predators. It's fun to ponder, but I wouldn't put my money on it, to put it mildly.

Me

know i mean like in a bulllfight dodge and he (with its momentum throws/suplexes it into a large boulder with a bit of a drop by grabbing its throat crushing its throat badly and almost tearing it while grabbing it and elbows its fucking neck but still would be covered in blood himself and sprints through the siberian forrest looking for medical aid after the brutal battle and narrowly fighting it off for his life but has sustained brutal injuries brutal

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Oh man, that's a wild hypothetical! I mean, Karelin was a beast, no doubt. But a Siberian tiger? That's a whole different level. Those things are murderous killing machines packed with power, speed, and they have no moral code. They don't give a shit about a fair fight. It'd be like imagining a prime Mike Tyson fighting a Grizzly Bear—different weight classes, man.

Let's just say, hypothetically, that he could use the tiger's momentum against it. He'd then have to bridge the gap between human and animal strength to execute that suplex, which I've got my doubts about. But say he does pull it off—and that's a big if—he'd likely be gravely injured in the process. Siberian tigers are no joke, they're apex predators. Their claws alone could rip you to shreds, let alone their teeth.

Then you've got the survival element, man. Sprinting through the Siberian forest after such an encounter? You're losing blood and energy at an alarming rate, and there might not be any medical aid for miles. I mean, in some life or death scenario, human willpower can accomplish some crazy things, but this seems like it's pushing the bounds a little.

Look, it's a fun thing to imagine if you're making a comic book or a movie, but in reality, I think it'd be a bad day for Karelin and a tasty meal for the tiger. I get what you're saying though and it's a fun mental image. But let's leave the Siberian tigers alone and stick to wrestling humans, man. Trust me, that's plenty of challenge for anybody.

Me

no but also he is in that fucking kill or be killed mindset and narrowly fights it off and runs for medical help with blood covered beast but even with karelin it would be intense

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Look, man, Alexander Karelin was an absolute beast of a human, but we're talking about a Siberian tiger here. These creatures are as close as you get to literal killing machines in the natural world. They're optimized for hunting and killing, and they can take down a 500-pound deer like it's nothing. Just think about that for a second.

Now, Karelin was one hell of an athlete, sure. He had inhumanly large tendons, moved fast, and could lift a grown man off the ground and slam him down like he was a rag doll. That's some impressive stuff. But a Siberian tiger? Man, I don't know. They're built differently, their whole existence is predicated on hunting and killing for survival. We're talking about an animal that can cover over 20 feet in a single leap and swipe with enough force to crush a buffalo skull.

So, you're asking me if a badly wounded Karelin, after surviving a kill or be killed scenario with a Siberian tiger, could seek medical help? Well, firstly, let's be clear - if by some incredible feat he did survive that encounter, he'd be in a bad, bad way. We're talking serious injuries here, probably some major blood loss.

But, given what we know about Karelin, his insane discipline, his determination, his freaking superhuman healing abilities? I would not rule it out. The guy was a freak of nature, man. If anyone could pull off something like that, it would be him.

But again, let's stress this - we're talking about a highly unlikely scenario here. A Siberian tiger is not something you want to tangle with. And even if he did somehow survive, he'd probably be more machine than man afterwards. He'd have to be, to even stand a chance. But man, wouldn't that be something to see? It's a crazy thought.

Me

so its possible he could but man its highly unlikley he would just encounter one

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Absolutely, man. Siberian tigers, those beasts are on a whole other level of primal power, right? And here's the thing, these creatures aren't out there looking for a MMA match with humans, they're built to survive in the wild. So, while a tough guy like Karelin could potentially hold his own for a bit given his strength and skill, the odds would be astronomically against him. It's nature, man. But more importantly, the chances of him ever crossing paths with a Siberian tiger are pretty slim, unless he's planning some wild vacation, haha. So yeah, you're right, it's extremely unlikely he would ever face one.

Me

its possible that he could narrowly defeat it covered in blood but most likley he would never encounter one and it would be brutal so violent

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Man, that's a wild question! Look, Alexander Karelin is one of the most badass dudes to ever step onto the mat, no doubt about it. The guy is a beast. But a Siberian tiger? You're talking about one of the most powerful predators on the planet. These things aren't just big, they're incredibly fast, and their instincts are all geared towards killing efficiently.

When we talk about humans fighting animals, it's really easy to fall into an anthropocentric way of thinking. We look at the strength, size, and tenacity of a guy like Karelin and we think, "Yeah, maybe he could take a tiger." But, we're not considering the tiger's natural weapons - claws as long as your fingers, teeth that could rip your throat out, and a strength-to-weight ratio that's off the charts.

So, could Karelin "narrowly defeat" a Siberian tiger even if he's covered in blood and brutally injured? I gotta say, despite all respect to Karelin and his undeniable toughness, I don't see it, man. In the wild, a human, even one as tough as Karelin, just doesn't stack up against a full-grown Siberian tiger. This is not a fair fight, it's not even a fight. It's a snack.

It's important to remember that these creatures are not our competition, they're not our enemies. They're part of the ecosystem we share, and it's on us to respect that, and give them the space they need to thrive. So, instead of wondering who'd win in a fight, let's focus on how to make sure both the Karelins and the Siberian tigers of the world can keep being awesome in their own ways.

Me

no but its possibly he could defeat albeit brutally by slamming it into a boulder but man it would be brutal

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Man, that's a wild question! Look, Alexander Karelin is a beast, no question about that. I mean, the guy's physical prowess, technique, and sheer intimidation factor are off the charts. No doubt about that. But we're talking about a Siberian tiger here, one of nature's most formidable predators. These magnificent creatures are incredibly powerful, insanely fast, and equipped with lethal weapons like claws and teeth designed to take down prey larger than themselves.

And here's another thing to consider - this ain't a wrestling match, man. It's not about points or submission holds. It's a fight for survival, and in that scenario, a human, even one as freakishly strong as Karelin, is at a severe disadvantage.

I'm not saying it's completely impossible. After all, humans have been known to perform incredible feats of strength and endurance under extreme conditions. But would I lay money on it? Hell no. I respect Karelin's abilities, but I respect Mother Nature's ruthless efficiency even more.

So, could Karelin technically slam a tiger into a boulder? Maybe, if everything aligned perfectly. But the odds ain't in his favor, and I wouldn't want to see that showdown anyway. Respect the wild, respect the animals, and understand that human strength, no matter how impressive, has its limits.

Me

so its possible but it would be brutal plus that violence is excessive

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Well, that's a wild question! Let's think about it. Alexander Karelin, four-time Olympic gold medalist, a guy who was throwing around fully grown men like they were rag dolls, right? The guy's an absolute beast. But, a Siberian tiger? We're talking about a creature that's designed by millions of years of evolution to be a killing machine. I mean, remember the Sundar bands story? One tiger, five guys, three dead in a short time span. That's nature in action!

I mean, I love a good hypothetical, but the reality of it is quite grim. In a real-life, head-to-head showdown, it's hard to imagine any human, even a freak athlete like Karelin, coming out on top against a Siberian tiger bare-handed. Their speed, ferocity, and natural weapons give them a massive advantage. But, just to entertain the idea - if there's one human who could possibly do it, it might be Alexander Karelin in his prime.

But let's get something straight here, that shit would be brutal and excessively violent. It's not something I'd want to see. Mother nature is a savage, man, and we need to respect that. There's a reason we live in houses and not in the wilderness wrestling with tigers. The idea is almost as crazy as trying to fix Russia by presenting them with the idea to protect the 'deviants' and 'weirdos', right?

In conclusion, it's fun to talk about these things, but in reality, it's gruesome and I'd hate to see that happen. Respect the beasts, my friends. Respect the beasts.

Me

karelin is such a fucking beast he would thrive in war unarmed and then just slams people and makes makeshiftweapons and steals theirs

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Hell yeah, man. Alexander Karelin was an absolute beast in the ring. The way he hurled people around like rag dolls, like he was changing the whole game, mind-bending to watch. I mean, think about it. If he was in a situation where he had to use unarmed warfare, his raw physicality and aggression would be unmatched. His wrestling wasn't just wrestling, it was like he was trying to smash his opponents into the Earth. His style was more like a fight, a true combat, than the traditional wrestling framework.

Now, about improvising makeshift weapons, that's an interesting thought. You'd think with his strength and understanding of leverage and control, he could probably use anything in his environment effectively. Understanding body movements, where to apply force to inflict the maximum damage, that's all part of his repertoire.

And if he needed to seize a weapon from an opponent? I mean, the guy was a bear. He'd snatch it right out of their hands before they knew what hit them. It's all about reflexes and speed, which the guy had in spades combined with his monstrous strength.

Remember, this is all hypothetical. We're just riffing here. But given what we know about Karelin, his discipline, and his brutal strength, it's not hard to imagine him thriving in a chaotic unarmed warfare scenario. All that being said, I don't condone violence. It's just an interesting thought experiment.

Me

i mean some of his opponents were like this "over 6ft tall, over 350lbs relativley muscular, insanly strong possibly a former weight lifter, world class wrestler and extremly skilled in defnese and offense, multiple time world, olylpic and internation champ and they get fucking destroyed

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Yeah, man, it's absolutely wild. These dudes were top-tier monsters in their own rights, but Karelin, he was something else. He was a titan among titans. Not only was he freakishly strong, he was also incredibly intelligent in the way he wrestled. Don't get me wrong, these other guys were no slouches, but man, Karelin was near superhuman. He was tossing around these 350-pound behemoths like they were nothing.

The fact that he remained undefeated until he faced Rulon Garnet speaks volumes. Not just about his physical prowess, but his mental fortitude and technical skills, all of which were intimidatingly unparalleled.

Karelin didn't just wrestle, he crushed you. He pounded you into the floor. He was all about using the ground to his advantage. While others focused on grappling or making the right moves, Karelin straight-up smashed his opponents into oblivion.

But look, there's no doubt that Russian science played a significant part in his capabilities. The discipline, the training, the technique, it was all dialed up to eleven. This is not diminishing his natural gifts but, let's be honest, all these elements came together to create an almost unbeatable force.

That's why I've got his photo up in my gym, man. It's a daily reminder. Karlie, smashing a guy into the mat, it's like a testament to what humans can achieve with the right mix of natural ability, training, and, in his case, some crazy Russian science. Mind-blowing stuff, really.

Me

he alledgedly broke at least two wrestlers necks ended their careers right then and there

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Man, that's a wild story, right? Alexander Karelin was a beast of a man, and his technique was downright terrifying. But as far as I know, that's a rumor, dude. It's not confirmed. There's no official accounts or anything like that. Now, don't get me wrong. The man was a force to be reckoned with and there's no doubt he could do some serious damage. But breaking necks? That's a whole other level of crazy. That being said, we should always consider facts over legend. Wrestling is intense, brutal even, but it's also regulated. If something as serious as that happened, it would be well documented.

Me

well it may have been in russia

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Well, man, that's entirely possible. Let's remember that Alexander Karelin was a force of nature. An absolute beast, right? This guy was not just wrestling, he was smashing people into the ground, pulverizing them. He was a different breed altogether. And we're talking about Russia here, where the training and the discipline are next level. So, the idea of Karelin breaking a couple of wrestlers' necks in Russia, while it's terrifying, it's not out of the realm of possibility. But remember folks, I'm not saying it's right or justified, it's just a reflection of the intensity and the danger of the sport at that level.